That's cause of the hierarchy in the VAG. Audi can't step in Porsche or Lamborghini territory. Still i would pick S5 Sportback over it's competitors any day because it's both fast and practical.
Unlike a BMW or Mercedes, though, we as VAG owners have the advantage of companies like APR tuning on our side, giving out 80hp gains in a single ECU tune for about 1200USD. BMW and Mercedes don't really have those...
@@sametyazgac5394 if porsche makes their lower models faster they’ll have to mark up the prices even more than they already are. Porsche is an easy $25K in addons every time
Before 2018 I'm also an Audi Rs fan. Because back then they still have their spirit and advantages. But in recent two years it's like the company itself loses interest in competing with M and AMG, they're not even trying. Worse powertrain, worse handling, worse exhaust, worse special design characters, worse marketing and worse product lineup.
@@jayroman3384 Pure MSRP alone, you can add 25k of options (carbon fiber pack inside and out, full leather, ACC, the more expensive seats, etc...) to any variant of the M3/4. The press cars that have been used in most reviews are VASTLY more expensive than they need to be. I see the Exec Pack (possibly) or just the Laser Lights on the one in this video but no evidence of the price-inflating and mostly cosmetic options that we've seen on most test cars (based on US options...I know the Canadian packs are a bit different).
you are not paying for performance. its a collectable machine. you are paying for exclusivity. only 50 in the world. and it looks like no other car i have ever seen its a beauty😊
I just love how the GTR looks like it's doing a straight up wheelie during wide open throttle acceleration. I've only driven one once in my life but the torque made it an unforgettable experience.
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Back in the 90s, if you wanted driving fun you’d get M3, if you wanted traction you’d get RS4, if you wanted quality and extravagant power you would get AMG. Now, M3 is the best for everything.
I would say new gen Audi interiors are much nicer than bmws. I would also say merc interiors are also nicer, I know they creek but they still feel more luxurious. BMW is definitely doing some wicked stuff in the performance department. Sad to see how slow the rs5 is without mods.
That GTR has 565 hp with a aftermarket exhaust that gain you up to 10% more power even stock has 62 more hp than the m4 and 121 hp more than the RS5. 600hp m4 xdrive can keep up with 911 922 turbo s. that gtr is not the yellow from the egg
I love how James starts trash talking to Thomas in the audi all confident then as soon as he rolls up the window he really isn't that confident🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣( no hate at all just thought it was funny)
Would've loved to see a drag between the ABT and normal RS5, not gonna lie it seemed identical to me aside from the harder launch. Kinda disappointing.
Don't be sad about it...when it launched, it got people mentally upside down and the fact that it could hold its crown for so long, for the price Nissan asked, just goes to show why the GTR has always been an amazing car.
I'm a bimmer man but gotta dip my cap to the GT-R been around forever and still cutting it, genuinely one of the most impressive feats of engineering ever 🙌🏻
Gtr would smoke the m4 csl off the line if they had someone normal driving it check the dyno sheets the csl has 590 crank hp and gtr has 560 yet the gtr quarter mile time is quicker 🤦♂️
I know the styling is kinda controversial, but honestly seeing them all side by side I'd go for the M4. 👀 It's the most special and aggressive looking one in my opinion.
No no bro. It lost off the line. That's about traction more so than power. That's the dog n pony show stuff. You find out who is the bigger dog (most power in a roll race). That's where all the cards are on the table. Not off the line. Gtr smoked Audi and BMW
That M4 is nuts on the launch, wow! 😳 Can we just acknowledge how impressive the GTR is even after over a decade. That power train and chassis was ahead of its time. That was a fun one to watch!
@@iandubria6906 I like Straight Pipes more for the car reviews, but Throttle House is great with car comparisons. When I want a truly elegant viewing experience, Savagegeese is my place
@@jackolbean4765 I've seen a couple - they have some GREAT features but just for me personally, I can't get that front grill to grow on me. It's too far of a cry from their classic look. But hey, our opinions are what make us all unique right? :)
Can I just say that BMW is doing an incredible job performance wise. If not for that grille it would be a wonderfully lineup of cars in the bmw stable right now
Also, not a great deal but, the whole size of the chassis is way bigger than what it used to be. M3 were also known to be a compact sports coupe. Now it's just so bulky and heavy
@@Anxyte that is exactly why they offer an M2... Literally the entire purpose of that car. People get so hung up with the badge number, the car you want is still there
@@Thejbinz lol what do u mean the quality ? Performance ! yes BMW M is the best of three for perfect weekend and rally drive, but quality is very negligible to compare lol =)) Audi and mercedes are top-notch quality and I didn’t see any failure. BMW otherwise needs a lot of maintenance and depreciate so much here in Europe. I always find a way cheaper deal of BMW in the same class of Mer and Audi
@@blanchbacker you measure also crank power on the dyno by adding drivetrain loss to the measured value at the wheels Crank power is standard in Europe
I am a loyal viewer from carwow but I gotta say you guys did a smart move right here by introducing us the new xDrive while carwow is still recycling their old races (how many times did we see m3 vs rs4/5?) Thank you for showing us this xDrive beast
@ Gavin Wyllie They have been drag racing the M5 and M8 since they where released on car wow and they are x-drive so not sure what you are talking about.
@@Hellofadrive You do know that BMW under rate their specs. Check out the dyno results of stock M4 vs. stock GTR. Both have similar 1/4mi. times despite the M4 having smaller engine displacement. Note: M4 engine has been put on a one time test that yield 1000hp on stock internals. If true, M4 is bringing a new different ball game.
We need a rolling race!!! Nice to see Godzilla still in the game after all this time. Makes you realize what MONSTER it was when it first got released! Im a BMW-fan but damn that Audi looks good.
"What MONSTER it was when it forst got released"? Since it was released, the GT-R gained around 85hp and 50Nm of torque. So power-wise a 2021 GT-R has nothing to do with a GT-R from "when it first got released"... Same goes for suspension, transmission, anti-roll-bars, mapping, etc..
True, the car is definitely good but at its new price you can get one at like 100,000+. There’s a lot of other performance cars at it’s price that are better then it. And even if not..it’s not getting any younger and the competition are just getting faster. (And before anyone says “wElL WhAT AbOuT tUnE”..keep in mind a 90’s honda civic with enough upgrades can be a rocket. Or in short, throw enough money at anything and it’ll go fast
Well not really. A GTR is a performance machine from the factory. The 3-Series is a sedan from the factory first and THEN a performance variant is made. What’s sad is that a GTR is now $120K and lost in a dig race to a $80K 3-Series (also 4-Series).
The new age of bmw is such a golden era, the performance is crazy and I personally love the styling uniqueness of each series. The f82 m4 is always gonna be my favorite tho
Me too. Love the exterior despite the hate on social media. But I‘m not sure about the new IDrive 8. the display looks so small and not like it is able to compare to the new Mercedes S and C Class infotainment system.
CAC honestly they’ve grown on me once I seen them in person , and I’ve seen some people on Instagram do some things like lower them and put some nice rims on and it just brings the out even more😭
Yea I see the G82's a lot in Greenwich CT and I almost felt the same way when I was looking at one the other day at a stop light and for a sec I was like "that actually doesn't look too terrible" ....then all of a sudden a San merino f82 cs drove by and I was like "but compared to that it's ugly asf" lol
This M4 X-drive have everything you want from a sport car...you want to take off, enable 4wd, you want to drift and play , press a button and you have a RWD car...what else would you want??
XDrive will murder the rear wheel drive... only on a track race, RWD might be able to win, or a 1-2 mile drag race... on a quarter mile RWD has no chance
@@ErectileSceptile LOL back when I had an open exhaust on a single cam KA24 it sounded like that but even more gargly...it must have been TITANLIKE (with 140hp).
@@Toyota4Life 0 to 60 the GTR the Dragon or whatever they called it got owned. The only car that makes ALL the Mercedes AMG and BMW M models look like they just started making cars 2 yrs ago is Tesla. Oh and no it doesn’t have to be a 2022 Tesla Plaid model either to be humbled. All the BMW’s M models and the M division bow down to Elon Musk as they know they don’t stand a chance. But hey if you know a BMW any MODEL that can do a quarter mile in 9.2 please hit me up and I’ll be so excited to see that video.
@@oscareno9052 Well the GTR is based off its own bespoke chassis, a sports car by design. M cars are built up performance cars based on regular cars. So you can't really compare them like that. GTR should traditionally be compared to other sports cars like 911's. But none the less, the GTR is still amazing even though it came out in 07
Nissan: "wanna race?" Audi: "sure thing my Japanese friend" Mercedes: "I'm totally ready to wreck you guys" BMW: *shows up* Mercedes:..."oh sorry guys my mum just called me home"
@@TheYBGOON lol AMG GTR isn't a drag race car..its made for the track. M5 CS would blitz it. Upcoming AMG One is still a concept lol. Besides next M5 hybrid will also be 1000bhp+ so AMG 1 might have to run away too Love the fact that Mercedes can't beat BMW with cars in the same class..yet needs supercars and now hypercars. Meanwhile BMW saloons still whoop them BMW is like: we don't need supercars or hypercars 😂😂
AMG one not a concept , all cars sold out and u can see vids of test-drives and soon to be on the road early next yr whereas this BMW "1000bhp hybrid" is unheard off. I do love the M5 CS tho. U cant really compare BMW n Merc since one focuses on luxury with added performance and the other is vice versa. However I always say tuned mercs always kill tuned BMW's because the upper end speed of Merc is no joke. The m8 and m6 are jokes because the M5 kills both of them so no point even having the m6 or m8. Where as for mercs all cars have their presence.
Damn Nissan sure is confident with their price. I think this price basically doubled during it's lifespan. Back then it was a no brainer to take it over a 911, but in 2021 buying one seems like having no brain at all.
...yeah I mean in england you can find one for 80 k pounds and if you put even a lutte accessories on a rwd m4 its the same price with that in mind if you really need to buy it 1 st hand than there it makes sense
You guys are amazing. The guy in GTR looks so funny, you should let him talk more. Love the sound of GTR. M4 with xdrive is crazy. Plastic dashboard in the RS5? Not good.
I think u better off with a gtr as daily driver , audi is beautiful but it looks is similar to many modern cars , that gtr is unique and known as the Godzilla , so u ll turn heads gtr : cool factor , reliability , huge aftermarket parts Audi : modern tech , better suspension , better interior
The grille might be controversy, but this M4 has proven to be no joke! 🔥🔥
But I think it just started looking okay or maybe beautiful...
@@sherykhan2516 I actually don’t mind the look either. I would definitely remove the front plate.
@@ajlee6933 it took me seeeing one in person to realize, “ohh okay this actually isn’t terrible, I kinda like it.”
@@sherykhan2516 its alright in person…bad on video lol
I’ve actually grown to like the aggressive look.
As an Audi fan, seeing all performance audis losing against their competitors is so hurtful
That's cause of the hierarchy in the VAG. Audi can't step in Porsche or Lamborghini territory. Still i would pick S5 Sportback over it's competitors any day because it's both fast and practical.
@@jimmypage2499 you are right but making audis slower shouldn't be the solution. Just make Porsche and Lambo faster...
Unlike a BMW or Mercedes, though, we as VAG owners have the advantage of companies like APR tuning on our side, giving out 80hp gains in a single ECU tune for about 1200USD. BMW and Mercedes don't really have those...
@@sametyazgac5394 if porsche makes their lower models faster they’ll have to mark up the prices even more than they already are. Porsche is an easy $25K in addons every time
Before 2018 I'm also an Audi Rs fan. Because back then they still have their spirit and advantages.
But in recent two years it's like the company itself loses interest in competing with M and AMG, they're not even trying.
Worse powertrain, worse handling, worse exhaust, worse special design characters, worse marketing and worse product lineup.
ABT cars are not performing as advertised; we've had that issue several times
Explain yourself
@@Russ1103 didnt you see the video itself? it got demolished as much as the rs5 did.
@@Volvap exactly. Seem like 10hp extra rather than 80hp lol
@@Russ1103 ABT is garbage. They claim 740hp. On dyno the car puts out 680hp. They have a 800hp Rs6 which is quite a bit slower than a 750hp Rs6.
They never have....
Carwow had a video with the M3 and i was thinking when are we going to see the X drive M3/4 and a few hours later here Throttle house is!
exactly what i was gonna say
Yeah... Bring it on Mat 😂
Yeah right
Yes was watching the M3 destroying competition. Good BMW day.
It was the Competition version though.
I'm not sure if there would be a difference but it still looks polarizingly terrifying.
The sound the GTR makes is just insane.
but thankfully not the king anymore who it once was. (10years ago)
@Renntech sorry, is the one in the video not a competition? Cause the listed MSRP wasn’t nearly that much.
@@jayroman3384 he's trying to use rare dealer markup as the actual price
@@jayroman3384 ya it’s a competition
@@jayroman3384 Pure MSRP alone, you can add 25k of options (carbon fiber pack inside and out, full leather, ACC, the more expensive seats, etc...) to any variant of the M3/4. The press cars that have been used in most reviews are VASTLY more expensive than they need to be. I see the Exec Pack (possibly) or just the Laser Lights on the one in this video but no evidence of the price-inflating and mostly cosmetic options that we've seen on most test cars (based on US options...I know the Canadian packs are a bit different).
Man imagine paying $150K for an ABT RS5 only for it to not do a single thing better than a standard RS5 when up against similar competition.
And now a year later you could get an M5 Comp and make everything look like it's standing still lol
you are not paying for performance. its a collectable machine. you are paying for exclusivity. only 50 in the world. and it looks like no other car i have ever seen its a beauty😊
Well it did launch a little better🤷🏽♂️ plus, they never did a manual race, with the cars in the sportiest settings…. Soooooo you really can’t say
@@prlreviews1729who cares about a manual race LOL that would be even slower, even in manual Audi is gonna get its ass kicked
@@godzillagamingpubgwho cares
The ABT “bless you” in the background at the end was awsome😂😂😂
Daniel Abt also has a RUclips channel where he runs 1/4 mile races every Sunday.
Not if you are German. They just keep messing around with our language. They might know how it's spelled. But do they know what respect is
I was going to type exactly the same comment 😂
Carston’s mini-dance and side eye were funny. But cutting him off, with that set up, hilarious!
That hard cut sent my sides to orbit hahah
Lmao i laughed the whole rest of the video from that😂
I agree. Well done!
*"It's a two man show," is probably what they tell him on filming days.*
I just love how the GTR looks like it's doing a straight up wheelie during wide open throttle acceleration. I've only driven one once in my life but the torque made it an unforgettable experience.
"Karston looks like he's about to say something."
Karston: *a-*
bt
Lmfaoooooooooo that shit was hilarious 😂
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Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
- will seem to rise from the dead
- will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
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"Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out"
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@@johnfran3218 yeah that m4 is awesome
He needs more screen time.
Back in the 90s, if you wanted driving fun you’d get M3, if you wanted traction you’d get RS4, if you wanted quality and extravagant power you would get AMG. Now, M3 is the best for everything.
Ikr!! That's amazing 😳🏆
The sad thing is, both the Audi/GTRs engine are older than the BMW. Instead of making a engine faster, they are going to make some EV :/
That's true but it's also unbearably ugly which is sad really, it would have been perfect car.
I would say new gen Audi interiors are much nicer than bmws. I would also say merc interiors are also nicer, I know they creek but they still feel more luxurious. BMW is definitely doing some wicked stuff in the performance department. Sad to see how slow the rs5 is without mods.
Audi stagnated with Quattro while the others caught up.
Can we all appreciate the fact that the GTR is like a million years old and still slaying its competitors.
what u mean old? its a 2021 model for 113,000 dollars?
@@majditounsi1699
R35 has been essentially the same thing since 2009 with little updates each year
...competitors?
That GTR has 565 hp with a aftermarket exhaust that gain you up to 10% more power even stock has 62 more hp than the m4 and 121 hp more than the RS5. 600hp m4 xdrive can keep up with 911 922 turbo s. that gtr is not the yellow from the egg
@@majditounsi1699 nissans been milking the same r35 for years, the year means nothing
Missed window of opportunity to say "How ABT that?" after the M4 beats it. 😂
I love how James starts trash talking to Thomas in the audi all confident then as soon as he rolls up the window he really isn't that confident🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣( no hate at all just thought it was funny)
He’s awesome. Perfect timing.
That was the point lmao
Yea he's a comedic genius
Those new M4s are insanely quick
Would've loved to see a drag between the ABT and normal RS5, not gonna lie it seemed identical to me aside from the harder launch. Kinda disappointing.
I must be missing something because it makes no sense how it matched what the original RS5 did. Where did that extra power go?
Story of a lot of tuned cars. The dyno numbers don't necessarily translate into real world perf.
Abt - a bullshit tune, nothing special
@@CentinalxGaming Maybe its better top speed and better cornering. Its not always about a drag race, that's a muscle car thing mostly.
Thomas apologizing for James’s joke is the most Canadian thing ever
9:58 - for posterity :D
I own two Bmw's at the same time and even if I sees a GTR passes I'm not jealous , it is the Godzilla and I respect it a lot !
Same
The sound of that GTR is still something special 😭 so, so good.
Like Golf 5 R32...or Passat R36 😍
Im just sad now..cz I remember how The GTR use to win every drag race..now the GTR is almost losing to every car that it use to beat 😪
Don't be sad about it...when it launched, it got people mentally upside down and the fact that it could hold its crown for so long, for the price Nissan asked, just goes to show why the GTR has always been an amazing car.
Couldn’t agree more! The GTR motor is no joke and sounds amazing!
@@thecafesimracing2628 thanks bro 😪..but can u pls explain why is it losing now?
That M4 is insane😱
That ABT didn't make much of a difference.
Edit: woah😱 over 1k likes, thanks guys😃
Tbh i don't even think the ABT does a difference even if it races against the normal rs5😂😂
@@Moh-cs5ck so so true🤣🤣🤣
@@thabisovictorkganyego507 😂😂
Abt is low-end in performance, high-end in upcharge tho
@@sylvaind.6786 just expensive for the looks maybe...not perfomance 🤷🏾♂️
Years go by and the GT-R still makes an engine sound that makes an engraving on our neural system. Unmatched, except maybe for an LFA.
Nothing tops the LFA although GTR does sound amazing I think the gt350 sounds better than the GTR.
lfa, e60 m5, v12 merc and many others sound as good if not better
There are soooo many cars that sound better than a GTR lol
@@drivescene6747did they as fast as gtr nahh
GT-R is only good sounding compared to some other turbo cars that sound bad.
That BMW is not just pretty quick and insane, its bonkers and insanely quick and insanely insane
Just here for the name comments 👀🥲 Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
Nice Daniel hier ! Grüße aus Frankfurt am Main 🖐🏻
I'm gonna lie, i felt bad for that😏
All in good fun! Really enjoy your stuff. Feel free to make fun of us in German so we can't defend ourselves.
Lost against a stock m4 lmao
Daniel, was verkauft dein Vater denn für eine Lüge?😱 Von den 80 ps sieht man ziemlich wenig…
Ist wohl eher ein Schaaf im Wolfspelz
I'm a bimmer man but gotta dip my cap to the GT-R been around forever and still cutting it, genuinely one of the most impressive feats of engineering ever 🙌🏻
The M4 is really damn fast! 👍 But the sound of the GTR is simply legendary! 🔥
Im just sad now..cz I remember how The GTR use to win every drag race..now the GTR is almost losing to every car that it use to beat 😪
And plus the gtr has an after market exhaust and the others dont oh plz 😐😐😑😑
@@alexmaccain2362 Even with aftermarket exhaust, the M4 falls short in the sound department, IMO. GTR just sounds like a beast out of hell.
@@joejay2876 what you expect form inline 6
@@n.s5771 Pls dont forget, that the GTR is almost 14 years old
They wouldnt stand a Chance against the next one
The 8 speed in the M3’s are incredible, it turns these sport cars into super sport level along with a (base) GT-R.
I'd still take the GTR, even though it's the oldest by far
I call it Japan's 911. No dramatic changes need to be made.
Is that a 2017 GT-R?
That GTR sound… Fantastic. Reminds me of the Switzer GTRs. The P800 to be exact.
I remember watching those on Dragtimesinfo
I've been wanting to see this race for ever since the M4 xdrive came out. Thanks for the great content boys
That Xdrive is insane it beats the GTR from the start 🙌
it would beat the gtr in the straight line as well if the m4 had 565hp as well
Gtr would smoke the m4 csl off the line if they had someone normal driving it check the dyno sheets the csl has 590 crank hp and gtr has 560 yet the gtr quarter mile time is quicker 🤦♂️
@@tombrzostowski7706 But that ain't the CSL in this video
@@worldisawesome6789well put .
@@dalisobanda5575😂
I know the styling is kinda controversial, but honestly seeing them all side by side I'd go for the M4. 👀
It's the most special and aggressive looking one in my opinion.
I'm with you on that
Same here bro. I saw one yesterday.. it look soooooooo goooooooood
Yep. In love with it too
Agree
most aggressive looking M car to date.. I like
GTR literally lit the tires up. They should have re-did the first race
Agreed
Yes because the 0-100 times of a GTR are lower than of M4 Xd
So true! There should be a rematch. With a driver who knows how to operate the GTR properly. Thank you!
they did the race twice if you haven't noticed
I mean, it was a launch control race and it’s launch control lit up the tires on that surface so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Though the GTR lost at initial start, it gave the other 2 one hell of a run for their money. It still is a 'formidable 'foe'.
No no bro. It lost off the line. That's about traction more so than power. That's the dog n pony show stuff. You find out who is the bigger dog (most power in a roll race). That's where all the cards are on the table. Not off the line. Gtr smoked Audi and BMW
That M4 is nuts on the launch, wow! 😳
Can we just acknowledge how impressive the GTR is even after over a decade. That power train and chassis was ahead of its time.
That was a fun one to watch!
Even after all this time GT-Rs still have such a unique sound.
If only did it stock, the only reason it sounds is the exhaust.
Not only gtr every single V6 sound like that lol
@@chongxina237 Really? I don’t think so at all.
@@enycejh They sound like a turbo vr6
@@enycejh well tbh a stock gtr without a soft limiter sounds almost exactly the same
Best car reviewers online hands down. “I’m going to get him off…the line” lol.
Agree better than “Thestraightpipe”
@@iandubria6906 I like Straight Pipes more for the car reviews, but Throttle House is great with car comparisons. When I want a truly elegant viewing experience, Savagegeese is my place
@@Justin_GFM agree but Straightpipe guys need shower, need hair trim, woke up early, exercise, they look tired every time i watch there video 🤣
"Karston looks like he's about to say something?" "A-" *cut away* 😂
Karton’s face when he win’s the rolling race, priceless.
He did a smooth lil 😏
I just love the sound of the GT-R ( after upgrade exhaust that is ) !
It’s a good thing that M4 is so fast, the tail lights are far easier on the eyes than that front end lol.
Great race!
It’s badass in person, and a nod to the 1936 328
@@jackolbean4765 I've seen a couple - they have some GREAT features but just for me personally, I can't get that front grill to grow on me. It's too far of a cry from their classic look. But hey, our opinions are what make us all unique right? :)
@@KingdomAuto Eh, Classic is something that occurs for a long time. Classic for BMW is the two grilles in general. Not how it’s shaped.
@@nottimhortons Two Grille's, yes - Beaver teeth, not so much. lol
@@KingdomAuto I guess. Then again, New Era. LOL.
Can I just say that BMW is doing an incredible job performance wise. If not for that grille it would be a wonderfully lineup of cars in the bmw stable right now
Bmw is a head even when it comes to quality. Audi and benz creek too much. Bmws are so sturdy.
It’s is a wonderful lineup. Car is overall beautiful. Stop complaining.
Also, not a great deal but, the whole size of the chassis is way bigger than what it used to be. M3 were also known to be a compact sports coupe. Now it's just so bulky and heavy
@@Anxyte that is exactly why they offer an M2... Literally the entire purpose of that car. People get so hung up with the badge number, the car you want is still there
@@Thejbinz lol what do u mean the quality ? Performance ! yes BMW M is the best of three for perfect weekend and rally drive, but quality is very negligible to compare lol =)) Audi and mercedes are top-notch quality and I didn’t see any failure. BMW otherwise needs a lot of maintenance and depreciate so much here in Europe. I always find a way cheaper deal of BMW in the same class of Mer and Audi
Great video guys. Love the races. BMW smashing the race. Keep up the banter😃
I think I’m actually starting to watch these more for the humor than the actual car races now!🤣
They combined such a fun wonderful show
This was ABTsolutely entertaining 😏
boooooooo!!!!....lol
Thank you
Nissan GT-R 17 years and counting of pure dominance.
I’ve never seen a GT-R launch so poorly before.
Me too I’ve seen a lot of videos where people launch the GT-R so poorly
I own one, I’ve never roasted the tires like he did, that was just odd
@@Superdimensional It almost looked like it was just RWD, it was very odd to see it smoking the tires like that. At least in stock form.
@@Superdimensional I own an rs5 I’ve taken gtr off the dig up till like 60-70 and then it freight trains me lmao
Gtr does 0-100 in 3 seconds or less this guy 1 of all cannot drive or hasnt got the right 100 octane fuel or launch control wasnt active. Thags a fact
Those engineers at BMW need to tell us the truth with these specs lol
545 hp 700nm on dyno
@@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr engine or wheel?
@@afrikengunner engine for sure
@@blanchbacker you measure also crank power on the dyno by adding drivetrain loss to the measured value at the wheels
Crank power is standard in Europe
@@afrikengunner engine
I love when 1/4 mile runs are done without telling us any info regarding times/speed. Solid stuff.
My thoughts exactly
I am a loyal viewer from carwow but I gotta say you guys did a smart move right here by introducing us the new xDrive while carwow is still recycling their old races (how many times did we see m3 vs rs4/5?)
Thank you for showing us this xDrive beast
Yes but no stats no time ! Just a chill drag i dont like that
BMW won't allow any UK company to drag race the X Drive yet that's why Mat hasn't done any.
Thomas and I'm James also know how to correctly pronounce Porsche.
@@gavinwyllie7855 right , so they are too busy to make uneven races lol
@ Gavin Wyllie
They have been drag racing the M5 and M8 since they where released on car wow and they are x-drive so not sure what you are talking about.
Abt is a company, which take much money for a minimum result (engine). MTM half the price and a better work. Greatings from Germany.
ABT is not only ab tuning engine, it’s also an ex and interior
@@johnnyutah9502 Thats why i wrote "engine"
Abt is low-end in performance, high-end in upcharge tho
@@sylvaind.6786 correct
I love the banter between Thomas and James. Thanks for all your TH video reviews.
If you are spinning tyres in a GTR at launch, not sure if you had all settings right.
Mine spins all the time. Might just be the stock tires 🤷♂️. Definitely looking to get something stickier when I wear these out.
@@jshnya yeah cause from what ive seen in the vid the gtr was lauching was slowly than i remeber it to be
yeah his lauch was kinda weird cause either stats or pratice the gtr has better 0-60 and top speed
@@Hellofadrive You do know that BMW under rate their specs. Check out the dyno results of stock M4 vs. stock GTR. Both have similar 1/4mi. times despite the M4 having smaller engine displacement. Note: M4 engine has been put on a one time test that yield 1000hp on stock internals. If true, M4 is bringing a new different ball game.
@@joejay2876 We’re talking about wheel spin. Nothing of which has to do with your comment lol
We need a rolling race!!! Nice to see Godzilla still in the game after all this time. Makes you realize what MONSTER it was when it first got released! Im a BMW-fan but damn that Audi looks good.
There is a roll race at about 4:25...
"What MONSTER it was when it forst got released"? Since it was released, the GT-R gained around 85hp and 50Nm of torque. So power-wise a 2021 GT-R has nothing to do with a GT-R from "when it first got released"... Same goes for suspension, transmission, anti-roll-bars, mapping, etc..
True, the car is definitely good but at its new price you can get one at like 100,000+. There’s a lot of other performance cars at it’s price that are better then it. And even if not..it’s not getting any younger and the competition are just getting faster. (And before anyone says “wElL WhAT AbOuT tUnE”..keep in mind a 90’s honda civic with enough upgrades can be a rocket. Or in short, throw enough money at anything and it’ll go fast
(I’m talking about the GTR btw)
@@BassFace1776 Not with the RS5-R.
Tuned rs5 still got beat by a stock m4, that’s crazy. That new m4 is crazy!
The fact that audi always needs ABT versions to compete, but they still lose and cost way more is ridicilous
The fact that m4 is so ugly is even more ridiculous
They should have raced the standard audi against the ABT
@@johnnyutah9502 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Abt is low-end in performance, high-end in upcharge tho
@@Johnny24rs thats what a piglet mom would say...🥳
We figured the AWD M4 was going to be fast but good grief it’s waaay quicker than I thought it would be. Wow
This really shows just how long it took the 3 series to hit GTR level performance.
Well not really. A GTR is a performance machine from the factory. The 3-Series is a sedan from the factory first and THEN a performance variant is made. What’s sad is that a GTR is now $120K and lost in a dig race to a $80K 3-Series (also 4-Series).
Well, to my eyes the M4 looks really good. But that's just me!
M xDrive is such a game changer! 💥💥💥💥💥
It's has more HP though
Without an V6/V8 & aftermarket exhaust still M4 sounds like it's roaring
“I got something, but not like an std” 🤦🏽♂️🙊🤣😂 James is the greatest!!! Sorry for the Abt’s failure to deliver 😁😁
The new age of bmw is such a golden era, the performance is crazy and I personally love the styling uniqueness of each series. The f82 m4 is always gonna be my favorite tho
Me too. Love the exterior despite the hate on social media. But I‘m not sure about the new IDrive 8. the display looks so small and not like it is able to compare to the new Mercedes S and C Class infotainment system.
Hideous
Agreed the f82 looks amazing, the g82 🤮 but the performance is unreal
CAC honestly they’ve grown on me once I seen them in person , and I’ve seen some people on Instagram do some things like lower them and put some nice rims on and it just brings the out even more😭
Yea I see the G82's a lot in Greenwich CT and I almost felt the same way when I was looking at one the other day at a stop light and for a sec I was like "that actually doesn't look too terrible" ....then all of a sudden a San merino f82 cs drove by and I was like "but compared to that it's ugly asf" lol
"He looks like he's about to say something." *cuts away* lol
GTR wasn't being launched properly but not taking away from the M4, it is fast.
Its funny how the M4 XDrive technically is what the GTR used to be. An AWD turbo straight 6 coupe, that keeps up with supercars for a cheaper price...
No straight 6 in a GTR its a V6
@@CryptoMikee he meant the previous generations like r34, r33 etc...
@@CryptoMikee keyword "USED TO BE"
Karstons grin of ultra satisfaction was priceless 👌 😀
I’m Xcited to see the BMW M4 XDrive do the most 🙌🔥
Get some race boxes, or dragys and report times! 0-60 or 0-100 and quarter mile!
Yes please!
You must be new here. The whole point is that they don’t. #streetracing
@@brianrainey2739 If so, then why are they doing track tests and compare the lap times?
The gtr had a terrible start sorry but it still faster than the bmw m4 xdrive
This , upvotd
This M4 X-drive have everything you want from a sport car...you want to take off, enable 4wd, you want to drift and play , press a button and you have a RWD car...what else would you want??
I would love to see a roll race between the RWD and XDrive versions of the M4/M3. Just to see if the XDrive is disadvantaged at higher speeds.
XDrive will murder the rear wheel drive... only on a track race, RWD might be able to win, or a 1-2 mile drag race... on a quarter mile RWD has no chance
RWD has less drivetrain loss of power and weight I think. Would be interesting. I don't know if the XDrive comes in an automatic though does it?
@@1wasinAlpha the rwd is gonna beat ez the awd m4
@@1wasinAlpha xdrive is actually faster on track. X drive did a really fast mal at the Nurburgring
@@unrealeck xdrive only comes in auto
The GTR exhaust note never gets old. It is an orchestrated note literally... at least to my ears.
Really? I thought it sounded terrible. Needs a resonator.
@@Dolby109 different strokes for different folks. That GTR sounded godlike to me and I'm not even a jdm guy
@@ErectileSceptile LOL back when I had an open exhaust on a single cam KA24 it sounded like that but even more gargly...it must have been TITANLIKE (with 140hp).
Well done guys, the new M4 is no joke!
It’s like the GTR went into 2WD mode; GODZILLA WAS SCREAMING to catch up‼️🔥👌🏾
Been waiting for this for a long long time fellas and finally🔥🔥
The GTR is the rival of M5. The amazing job on the x drive indeed
I knew with 100% certainty that the M4 would win. That was easy to predict.
M + XDrive = Win
M3/M4 the flag bearer in its class🔥🔥🔥
Indeed ///MPOWER BABYY
That GTR sounds freaking AWESOME 👌🏾
Tom said, the BMW will be humbled. LMFAO, an M being humbled.
The M got walked by the GTR
@@Toyota4Life 0 to 60 the GTR the Dragon or whatever they called it got owned. The only car that makes ALL the Mercedes AMG and BMW M models look like they just started making cars 2 yrs ago is Tesla. Oh and no it doesn’t have to be a 2022 Tesla Plaid model either to be humbled. All the BMW’s M models and the M division bow down to Elon Musk as they know they don’t stand a chance. But hey if you know a BMW any MODEL that can do a quarter mile in 9.2 please hit me up and I’ll be so excited to see that video.
@@tomgunc the gtr is from 2007😂 wait til they redisgn the whole car and it will humble ANY M car
@@oscareno9052 Well the GTR is based off its own bespoke chassis, a sports car by design. M cars are built up performance cars based on regular cars. So you can't really compare them like that. GTR should traditionally be compared to other sports cars like 911's. But none the less, the GTR is still amazing even though it came out in 07
@@tomgunc Rimac Nevera
I can't stop watching this part of the video which starts from 7:26. Thomas saying "Abbutuh" cranks me everytime. You guys are the best!
I am ordering an M4 with Xdrive. It is much more sensible in Canada. Thanks for making this video.
FINALLY, AWD M4, absolute killer. Great race
Nissan: "wanna race?"
Audi: "sure thing my Japanese friend"
Mercedes: "I'm totally ready to wreck you guys"
BMW: *shows up*
Mercedes:..."oh sorry guys my mum just called me home"
Lmfaoooooooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Then turns back up in the amg gtr and shuts you all up. Then the year after brings the amg gt one.
@@TheYBGOON lol AMG GTR isn't a drag race car..its made for the track. M5 CS would blitz it.
Upcoming AMG One is still a concept lol. Besides next M5 hybrid will also be 1000bhp+ so AMG 1 might have to run away too
Love the fact that Mercedes can't beat BMW with cars in the same class..yet needs supercars and now hypercars. Meanwhile BMW saloons still whoop them
BMW is like: we don't need supercars or hypercars 😂😂
@@ertugrulbae46 and don’t tell him about the M8 that could show up and make the AMG GTR cry lol 😂
AMG one not a concept , all cars sold out and u can see vids of test-drives and soon to be on the road early next yr whereas this BMW "1000bhp hybrid" is unheard off. I do love the M5 CS tho. U cant really compare BMW n Merc since one focuses on luxury with added performance and the other is vice versa. However I always say tuned mercs always kill tuned BMW's because the upper end speed of Merc is no joke. The m8 and m6 are jokes because the M5 kills both of them so no point even having the m6 or m8. Where as for mercs all cars have their presence.
Keep up the good work. Very entertaining you guys are getting better every time.. 👏🏽
Throttle House always drop hot reviews. Best RUclips channel 🔥
Damn Nissan sure is confident with their price. I think this price basically doubled during it's lifespan. Back then it was a no brainer to take it over a 911, but in 2021 buying one seems like having no brain at all.
...yeah I mean in england you can find one for 80 k pounds and if you put even a lutte accessories on a rwd m4 its the same price with that in mind if you really need to buy it 1 st hand than there it makes sense
@@allen624 even a little 4 banger boxster?
You guys are amazing.
The guy in GTR looks so funny, you should let him talk more. Love the sound of GTR.
M4 with xdrive is crazy.
Plastic dashboard in the RS5? Not good.
They're all so close in speed. I just love the Audi styling so I would go Audi for a daily driver. GTR as a toy for sure.
I think u better off with a gtr as daily driver , audi is beautiful but it looks is similar to many modern cars , that gtr is unique and known as the Godzilla , so u ll turn heads gtr : cool factor , reliability , huge aftermarket parts
Audi : modern tech , better suspension , better interior
@@Abujound but the real Godzilla is R34 not R35
@@Gamethings-os7jv i dont have info about that but r35 definitely live up to be called a godzilla .
@@Gamethings-os7jv No. The real Godzilla is r32. It was named that because It won all of 29 races of Japanese Touring Car Championship.
i don't have a dream car but that Nissan GTR looks so good i feel like i'm lying to myself
Oh how godzilla screams, freakin love the sound of that V6
The M4 is absolutely brutal on the launch!
The M4 looks terrific in that particular green...leaner and more sinewy than the other 2.
The unbeatable M4 still reigns the road 🔥
I literally watched it get beat in the roll race..
The 1 car difference between all 3 result means that - on the street - they’re about the same unless it’s a 60 roll highway race
They aren’t on a prepped road that race is equivalent to a race on the street
As much as I dont care much for the GTR, its exhaust note will never cease to disappoint me. Love it.
Embrace your inner Nissan GTR fan 🤨
@@SilverScarletSpider correct. but you didnt have to go that hard by liking your own comment.
@@BIGGELATO I didn’t.
i have raced the GTR againt an M4 competition X drive and we both got good launches and the GTR won.😮
That rs5 has some surprisingly good looking wheels
It's amazing how quickly a car goes whilst attempting to outrun its own grill.
I reckon Karston launched slowly on purpose so it didn't break his mirrors.
@@ApothecaryTerry 🤣
That M4 front end is growing on me … love the whole look overall
The editing bits of Karston were pure gold 😂