Betta Fry Development: From Day 1 to Show size!

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @yeonannako1663
    @yeonannako1663 4 года назад +370

    I watch this every week to make sure my fry are growing at a good rate 🤣

  • @lizxu322
    @lizxu322 Год назад +5

    After keeping fish for 18 years, bettas are still my favourite

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  Год назад

      Great to hear that! Bettas are just amazing fish and can not imagine a life without them anymore.

  • @sammora470
    @sammora470 4 года назад +19

    I can't begin to tell you how happy and satisfying this video is.

  • @Demonic_Kitty
    @Demonic_Kitty 3 года назад +13

    So informative! Thanks! A few questions. How large should grow out tank be? Is 10gal enough? How do you maintain the jars after separating the males? Daily water change?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. With respect to your question on tanksize there is not one universal answer which applies to all. My own tanks are relatively small (~30L). But my spawns are divided over multiple tanks (often based on the size of the fry) in order to prevent the tanks from being too crowded.
      In order to get an impression of how I chance water in my Betta Territory, please have a look at the following video: ruclips.net/video/zEGMtBiRZ84/видео.html
      I hope this information is useful to you.

    • @erollfreeks3326
      @erollfreeks3326 2 года назад

      Solid

  • @rat_dragon
    @rat_dragon 4 года назад +13

    I appreciate you for making this video! I had just rescued two very young Betta fry earlier today (December 28, 2020) and was desperately trying to find the age of these two youngsters. They're both the same length (roughly 1.125"), although Dip seems slightly older than Dot. Since doing more research, I have since concluded that Dot is likely 5-6 weeks old, Dip being around 7-8 weeks old. So, again, I must thank you for sharing your experience and informative video! 😁

  • @JoeNocella
    @JoeNocella 3 года назад +6

    I have about 200 fry that hatched six days ago. I've been feeding them baby brine shrimp and Hikari first bites. So far, so good. I'm wondering what to do with them all later on..

    • @mysteriousen2048
      @mysteriousen2048 3 года назад +1

      Same feeling

    • @Denzilrulez
      @Denzilrulez 2 года назад +2

      Can we get an update please.. how did you manage 200 fry... Did they all survive??

  • @swaptale8513
    @swaptale8513 4 года назад +10

    Hey so I got a male and a female betta fish two days ago and they already laid eggs yesterday. It's first time owning fishes and I'm trying to get it right. I separated the female fish because that's what all my research said. But I don't really know where to go from here. When do I seperate the Male fish? How long do the eggs take to get to the first stage you showed? Also I got a tiny bowl for the fish because I didn't anticipate them laying eggs so when can I transfer them to a bigger tank so they can grow adequately? It would really great if you can answer me. I'm super new at this and I really want to do this right.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +3

      Congratulations on your first spawn. You can find the answers to your questions in the following article on my website: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-Breedingmain.htm
      I hope this is of any help. Good luck raising your fish.

    • @tago8039
      @tago8039 4 года назад +1

      It's a little late for trying to do things right. It sounds like you weren't prepared to breed them.
      Big mistake

    • @unknownuser-ox4py
      @unknownuser-ox4py 3 года назад +1

      How did the hatching go?

  • @edisonckh1987
    @edisonckh1987 4 года назад +26

    Thank you for the complete guide from fry to show size.... We need more video like this... Keep it up!!!

  • @TheNumbers400
    @TheNumbers400 4 года назад +13

    Is there such a thing as an aquarium so large or built in such a way that it can house more then one male Betta and multiple females? Not thinking about doing it just wondering because Bettas are usually in such small tanks.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +6

      Bettas are solitary animals which in their natural habitat live in shallow pools which are often poor in oxygen. It therefore is no problem to keep Bettas in smaller (nano)aquaria ranging from 2-30 liter as long as they are kept at constant temperature and provided with quality food and regular water changes. Square aquaria/jars are preferred above round bowls/jars. It is not advisable to keep a male together with one or multiple females for a longer time. Off course exceptions always exist but in general this will lead to unnecessary stress and damage due to chasing and fights. In case you want to breed Bettas it is highly recommended to prepare a seperate spawning tank and to gather all information possible in order to know what to expect and to prevent dissapointments.

    • @ABCDogsYT
      @ABCDogsYT 4 года назад +6

      I saw a large indoor pond that a person had built in his home on Reddit. He said it was 100+ gallons. It was built like a koi pond in the floor. It was planted with a lot of aquatic and semi-aquatic plants. He said he keeps two male and five female bettas. I do not know if this works out, and I'm not recommending it... but he seemed pretty experienced.

    • @thebuzz2010
      @thebuzz2010 4 года назад +3

      Betta Imbellis (Peaceful Betta) can be kept in groups.

    • @小林-t8v9k
      @小林-t8v9k 4 года назад

      I don’t think u can

    • @ellie7646
      @ellie7646 3 года назад +1

      People have done it. There's a RUclipsr who has like a 75 gallon densely planted with 2 males and multiple females, but I can't quite remember her name.

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 3 года назад +2

    Cute you can tell that they love your attention.

  • @foxtrotplaysroblox4638
    @foxtrotplaysroblox4638 3 года назад +4

    I watch this every day just for my fish growth!

  • @vredeling
    @vredeling Год назад +1

    Great channel and video Joep!
    Do you have any experience with breeding wild type bettas?
    When I compare my smaragdina fry with the ones in your video, my fry didnt seem to have the fase of not being able to support whole body during swimming with the swim bladder stretching.. can you share your experience?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  Год назад +1

      @vredeling Thank you for your support 🙏.
      How old are your fry at the moment?

    • @vredeling
      @vredeling Год назад

      About 35 days freeswimming now. They're different sizes, but you can already see a stretched blatter on the big ones (1- 1.5cm). They also have black horizontal stripe alrdy.
      The smaller ones I can see the blatter still about 25% or so. But with daily observation I never saw one fry developing but struggling to swim upright? Kept me wondering...

  • @vaipuariibirds7579
    @vaipuariibirds7579 2 года назад +1

    Waow!!! Beautiful!!! Who was the parents of the frys? Do you have a vidéo of them!😊 Thank you so much!!!

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  2 года назад

      Thank you for leaving a comment 🙏.
      The fish in this video are from two spawns and that could be mixed as they have distinct colors which makes them easy to trace back from which spawn they come from. In order to promote a better grow-out fish of both spawns where housed together and divided over several grow-out tank.
      The fish shown in these videos are from:
      - BT270819A: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819A.htm
      - BT270819C: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819C.htm

  • @calebringabell609
    @calebringabell609 4 года назад +18

    Don’t mind me being confused... if they’re all raised together do they not fight? When do they start fighting?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +15

      Thank you for asking your question. The fry are raised together up to the point where the first males start to become territorial. It is therefore important to closely observe the behaviour of your fish. Personally I usually jar my fish at an age of 2,5-4 months (depending on growth rate/development and behaviour), see 4:50 min in the video. I hope this answers your question?

    • @prashantpatil6013
      @prashantpatil6013 3 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory I have a question too do males and females fight with each other too?

    • @sadface8412
      @sadface8412 3 года назад

      @@prashantpatil6013 females don't but some males will but if you want to keep a female and a male together you must have 2 females also make sure you have alot of hiding spots for the female if you have only one female the male might chase the female and it will be stressed
      Also you need 10 to 20 gallon tank

  • @acvaristicacudichis
    @acvaristicacudichis 2 месяца назад

    The mother of my fry was 7 weeks and 4 days old (53 days old) when she laid eggs for the first time. I change the water every day over 50%, and twice a day after after day 42, when I begin to distinguish between males and females.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  2 месяца назад +1

      @@acvaristicacudichisBettas already can be sexually active at a young age, but does this mean we should breed our fish at a young age? Although our fish are growing throughout their whole life most of them usually are reasonably developed around at 5-6 months of age. Certain important characteristics, both positive and negative, are not visible in young fish but only appear when a fish reaches maturity. Some examples are for instance vitality, overall balance, fin curling, ability to hold their finnage, susceptibility and resistance for disease, rosetail influence, fin curling, etc. So it is important to keep in mind that when breeding fish at a young stage,there is a risk to overlook certain important characteristics you might not want to fix in your line. Personally, I therefore prefer to breed my fish to be older than 6 months of age before I breed them.

    • @acvaristicacudichis
      @acvaristicacudichis 2 месяца назад

      @@BettaTerritory My objective was obtaning Betta Dumbo Long Fins having only an old Betta Dumbo male and a regular female. First step, F1, all the fry were ordinary Betta (Dumbo gene is recesive). So I needed F2 fast, because the male is old and I could not wait risking losing the male. F2 was obtained mating the original male with the most promising dauther, very young but still looking quite mature (bigger then her mother). It worked, now i have 145 juvenile Betta fry, 70 of them being full Dumbo. I may go further with F3, because now I have Betta Dumbo males and females and the old father, stil in good shape. Sometimes you have to rush things to secure the goal. 🙂

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  2 месяца назад +1

      @@acvaristicacudichis Thank you for the reaction. Good luck with your project.

    • @acvaristicacudichis
      @acvaristicacudichis 2 месяца назад

      @@BettaTerritory Thank you!

  • @muraliaj5129
    @muraliaj5129 4 года назад +2

    HI Sir , it is really an excellent video , when fries starts swimming freely after 3 days, what you will feed from 3 to 10 days , will the fries start eating brine shrimp from beginning itself ?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +3

      Thank you 🙏. At 1:05 min of the video the fry has entered the free swimming stage, I then feed vinegar eels and newly hatched BBS. Usually the fry will start eating BBS without problems but it also is depending on the size of the BBS and the size of the fry (don't breed your fish too young/immature).

  • @cathyclar
    @cathyclar 3 года назад +1

    Good day! May I ask when is the good time to remove the male betta from the eggs? The eggs is starting to show its tail on the bubble. Thank you so much!Much love from the Philippines!

    • @cathyclar
      @cathyclar 3 года назад +1

      New subscriber here Sir. My son is actually the one who is trying his luck on breeding bettas. First time trying to pair and luckily the eggs now are starting to show its tail.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Welcome on board Catherine & Son! Nice to hear your son is attempting to spawn his pair. Regarding your question, I personally remove the male as soon as the fry starts to swim horizontally, the so-called free-swimming stage. This usually is 2-3 days after hatching. This is also the time I start feeding the fry.
      More on how to spawn Bettas in this video: ruclips.net/video/yjTQB8qHrBE/видео.html
      I hope this information is useful to you. Have fun & good luck.

  • @ezzi979
    @ezzi979 4 года назад +2

    2:05 how old this one? What food you give to them? (in this clip )

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      These fry are 19 days old and are being fed with newly hatched BBS (all the information is at the titlesheet of this stage at 1:50 min 😉).

    • @ezzi979
      @ezzi979 4 года назад +1

      Can i give 24 hours BBS for 3 days old frys?

  • @Pix_cl
    @Pix_cl 2 года назад

    What if I put 2 baby male bettas in one , would they fight when they grew up?

  • @ger8791
    @ger8791 4 года назад +15

    This is what ive been waiting for... A video like this!!!

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Gorge tops nice to read your enthousiastic reaction, thank you 🙏.

  • @janpatrickmadronero4719
    @janpatrickmadronero4719 3 года назад +1

    I have a question, you bred 2 mustard gas but the baby fry that comes out of it are mostly pure blue and mostly yellow, but didnt inherit the blue and yellow mixed colors from their parents, why did that happen?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      I did not cross two mustard gas fish 😉. The fry featured in this video are from two spawns:
      - BT270819A - Yellow HMPK male x darkbody yellow HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819A.htm
      - BT270819C - Platinum white HMPK male x steel blue HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819C.htm
      Because the color of the parents of both spawns is so different it is not problem to let the fry grow up together as I can trace their heritage easily back based on their color phenotype.

    • @janpatrickmadronero4719
      @janpatrickmadronero4719 3 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory oh wait sorry i actually watched video from someone breeding two mustard gas fish before this vid and i kinda thought it was the same video xD im so stupid thanks for reminding

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      @@janpatrickmadronero4719 no worries. Hope you enjoyed the video nevertheless. Thank you for watching 🙏.

  • @DELPUTRA
    @DELPUTRA 3 года назад

    het is verbazingwekkend hoeveel betta-vissen
    groetjes uit Indonesië

  • @raffiekhosrofian5191
    @raffiekhosrofian5191 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hi there, love your work. Some of my fry are struggling to support their bottom half at the 3 week stage like you mentioned in the video. Is this pretty normal as the swim bladder develops towards the peduncle then? Does it generally resolve? Or is this something I should be addressing by feeding less. Thanks!

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  9 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry for the late reply. I think all hobbyists encounter these problems from time to time. In my opinion this problem is caused by the fact that the swimbladder is not fully stretched towards the peduncle. In young fish it is easy to watch the development of the swimbladder. In the first 3-6 weeks, the swimbladder need to stretch itself along the spine from the stomach towards the peduncle. When this does not happen, it will be impossible for the fish to swim properly and you will get a so-called belly slider. I personally do not think it is genetic but more an environmental thing related to feeding.
      In some cases SBD solves itself in young bettas in the first month, but when the fish gets older to my experience the chance of solving this is nearly zero.
      By altering the feeding regimen I think I have quite good results so far in solving this in the first few weeks. By seperating the youngsters affected with SBD at a young age and by feeding them very minimally with chopped tubifex I have gained good experiences. Yes, their growth will be a bit slower initially but in my own experience they usually will catch completely when their swimbladder has recovered (read: stretched towards the peduncle). This can take 2-3 weeks. So oberserve them closely for the coming time.
      In the following video you can see how I 'cut/chop' the tubifex at 1:15 min. This method also works with live or frozen blood worms:
      ruclips.net/video/1OEXIk7sOJE/видео.html
      Hope this is of any help to you. Good luck 🤞!

    • @raffiekhosrofian5191
      @raffiekhosrofian5191 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory Thanks so much for replying! Very useful info

  • @nswije8853
    @nswije8853 4 года назад +2

    Hi ... I m nilantha i like your vidio and it s gave me to lot of things thanks for that. I have a quaction . can i know whithing how many days can we use (the fish we use to breeding) to next breeding? I think you could understand my quaction .thank You .

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Depending on the growthrate, Bettas already can be spawned at 3-4 months of age. But personally I want my fish to be fully developed before I spawn. At 3-4 months most young fish look very balanced, but I also want them to be balanced throughout their entire lives. I therefore personally spawn my fish usually between 7-12 months of age.
      More on this here: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-AABselectivebreeding.htm

  • @leo96119611
    @leo96119611 3 года назад +2

    Best video ever watched on betta cycle.

  • @lumizoart
    @lumizoart 4 года назад +2

    Could you please help me?!
    Please
    In my house my brother planned to look after bettas and had some small fish so how du u look after them?(about water)
    What is the food that you are giving them?
    Please reply.
    I really enjoyed the growth of these fishes that's why I asked......

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Thank you for your comment 🙏. I feed vinegar eels, BBS, tubifex, blood worms and granulate.
      In the video I mentioned.what I feed per stage.

    • @lumizoart
      @lumizoart 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory thanku🥰 so much

    • @lumizoart
      @lumizoart 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory I didn't recognized about that cos I was so satisfied by the method you did
      But what about the water?!
      A kinda leaf think so

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Here is a video on how I change water and with what frequency: ruclips.net/video/zEGMtBiRZ84/видео.html

  • @anna-qc8tp
    @anna-qc8tp 3 года назад +1

    i accidentally placed food in my breeding tub too early, will it harm the fry if they eat it

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      What food are you using and how old are the fry?

  • @Izrael1126
    @Izrael1126 3 года назад +1

    Hi there, love your video, I’m new to this. Today I saw my 2 beta mating and male placing the eggs on the bubbles. Should I remove the parents from the tank right away or what do I do? Help please.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Thank you! After the pair has spawned the male will chase the female away. Most breeders then remove the female and leave the male take care of the eggs and fry until they have entered the free-swimming stage (usually 2-3 days after hatching.
      Personally I always leave the female up to the point when the eggs start to hatch, but I would only advise to do so when there are enough spaces to hide.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Here an impression of the method I use to spawn my fish: ruclips.net/video/yjTQB8qHrBE/видео.html

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      And some more information on the breeding process on my website: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-Breedingmain.htm

  • @mridhulml9238
    @mridhulml9238 4 года назад +1

    Would all of them have the same colour? If they do would they be the same as the parents?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      The fry featured in this video are from two spawns:
      - BT270819A - Yellow HMPK male x darkbody yellow HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819A.htm
      - BT270819C - Platinum white HMPK male x steel blue HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819C.htm
      The color of the offspring is depending on the genetic traits the parents are carrying and how they are inherited. More information on this can be found in the following videos:
      - Part I: ruclips.net/video/PfZXwwKHI68/видео.html
      - Part II: ruclips.net/video/b6aPCk_e7lE/видео.html

  • @deanotyl4802
    @deanotyl4802 4 года назад +1

    Can I breed a crowntail male with a female plakat? My female is full with eggs and I read that if she does not lay them, the eggs will rot and she will die too..

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +2

      It is not necesarry to breed a female when she is full of eggs. She will either release them (unfertile off course) or they will be absorbed in the body. It is important to prevent females from fattening up as this can cause them to become egg bound.
      With respect to mixing tailtypes this is no problem, although the offspring will likely be an in-between form which do not match any of the showstandards. This might be something to keep in mind when breeding.
      Hope this answer is of any help.

    • @deanotyl4802
      @deanotyl4802 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory thanks for replying again. I wasn't planning to breed my bettas, but I got worried after reading from some articles that the female would die if she's not allowed to breed.. So no breeding for her then, as you wrote that she will either lay them unfertilized or absorbed the eggs back.

  • @Arjun-xy5tg
    @Arjun-xy5tg 4 года назад +2

    How many times do you feed your fry one day ..

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      I feed two times, once in the morning (7-8h am) before I go to work and in the evening (22-23h).

    • @Arjun-xy5tg
      @Arjun-xy5tg 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory thanks 😊

  • @stefantheron7841
    @stefantheron7841 4 года назад +1

    What is the average number of fry, die off to expect and males to female ratio? Great video

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      With good care and feeding quality foods most of the fry will survive. It is impossible to say anything regarding male/female ratio per spawn. On average it will approach 50/50 when you would average results of a large number of spawns. But in individual spawns this will vary with sometimes extremes of 100% males and 100% females.

  • @iamironman1816
    @iamironman1816 4 года назад +1

    Is Eggyolk Good for fry bettas?

  • @Thomas-dp1ho
    @Thomas-dp1ho 3 года назад +1

    At what age or size should you start to jar bettas

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Thank you for asking your question. The fry are raised together up to the point where the first males start to become territorial. It is therefore important to closely observe the behaviour of your fish. Personally I usually jar my fish at an age of 2,5-4 months (depending on growth rate/development and behaviour), see 4:50 min in the video. I hope this answers your question?

  • @sanyat7937
    @sanyat7937 4 года назад +3

    When to start feeding frys??

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      You should start feeding the fry when they have entered the free-swimming stage when the yolk-sac has been fully absorbed. Usually 2-3 days after hatching. Personally I use vinegar eels and newly hatched BBS for this.

  • @chesterjeffbagunas4977
    @chesterjeffbagunas4977 3 года назад +1

    Sir, can a juvenile betta grow as big as normal betta size or adult size? Newbie

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Normally yes but this also depends on genetics and care (read: temperature, food quality & frequency, waterquality and frequency of waterchanges).

    • @chesterjeffbagunas4977
      @chesterjeffbagunas4977 3 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory every other day water change and twice a day feeding. Live food treats once a day.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад +1

      @@chesterjeffbagunas4977 sounds like a good approach 💪. Good luck!

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 3 года назад +5

    Adorable kinda like baby chickens but don't have to worry about predators..they respond to a kind voice especially when it's time to eat.

  • @phsalgado9596
    @phsalgado9596 3 года назад +1

    How often should I feed baby bettas from 1-3 days old?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      I personally start feeding when the fish have entered the free-swimming stage and the father has been removed. This usually happens 1-2 days after hatching when the yolk-sac has been absorbed.
      After this I feed vinegar eels for 1-3 days with and then switch to newly hatched BBS. I feed two times a day (morning and evening). I hope this is of any help to you. Good luck!

  • @aneshkaprocter9916
    @aneshkaprocter9916 4 года назад +1

    Just wondering how often you do water changes and how you do them as to not shock the fry? Is there anychance you could make a video on this?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      I usually change 40-60% water every 2-3 days. I hope these videos are useful to you:
      - ruclips.net/video/zEGMtBiRZ84/видео.html
      - ruclips.net/video/qgFW-XiIS6w/видео.html

    • @aneshkaprocter9916
      @aneshkaprocter9916 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory Thank you!

  • @sachinkadam8666
    @sachinkadam8666 4 года назад +1

    Is there any Substitute for baby brine shrimps? Can i feed them chopped flakes Or bloodworms?
    Please someone reply coze by fry is 2 days old

    • @zanewick1953
      @zanewick1953 3 года назад

      Try feeding them crushed egg yolk but make sure to clean your tank afterwards cause it makes the water dirty and cloudy.

    • @chikarsuthar7216
      @chikarsuthar7216 3 года назад

      But how to change water, as the baby fry are so small, i have the same problem in my city live food or brine shrimp is not available, I used to give baby's crushed hikari & blood worms. Still thay look like 4-5 day old as how today they are the age of 34 days. Plz do reply

  • @vanessacebrian2675
    @vanessacebrian2675 4 года назад +1

    This is really a good video. I just started having bettas as my pet fish. Currently I have two. Both are males (jack and red). I would like to know how often should i change their water? As of now, i am doing it once a week. Is that okay?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      Thank you Vanessa 🙏. Nice to hear you have two Bettas youself. How often you should change their water is also depending on the way you keep them (housing and feeding frequency). Personally keep my individually housed fish in bare 2.5-3L jars on a constant temperature (some are in a drip system). Here I siphon the bottom and change 40-60% of the water every 2-4 days. Can you tell me a bit more about how they are housed and how often and what you are feeding them?

    • @vanessacebrian2675
      @vanessacebrian2675 4 года назад

      Betta Territory my first betta is in a 2.5 gallon tank and the 2nd one is in a 5 gallons. Both tanks have aquaplants in the hope to make them happy. I feed them atleast once or twice a day. I use the maxflo pellet in the morning like 6 to 8 pcs then late after noon i would give them tubifex worm (freeze dried)..
      For the water, i use tap water 💦 and then i would drop some methylene blue (drops would be according to their tank size) and then i always make sure they have talisay dried leave.

  • @letsfish808
    @letsfish808 4 года назад +1

    Can you jar them up at 2 months age???

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      This will depend on the growth and the behaviour of the fish. Personally I prefer to jar my fish as big as possible but off course you will have to keep an eye on their behaviour. When a male becomes too dominant it is time to jar. I jarred the first fish from the fry in this video around 3 months of age (see the section at 4:50 of the video).

    • @letsfish808
      @letsfish808 4 года назад

      Betta Territory okay I really rally appreciate it I just Jared mine and hopefully come out

  • @caramellaaesthaticaa6648
    @caramellaaesthaticaa6648 4 года назад +1

    I just saw another video about a person feeding the fry with eggyolk+water. In ur opinion is it good sir?I dont hv any brtta fry food noe with me☹

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      Personally I have no experience with feeding this, but some breeders indeed use egg yolk in the first days. Overfeeding can polute the tank very fast so be careful with this.

    • @caramellaaesthaticaa6648
      @caramellaaesthaticaa6648 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory okay,thank u for ur advice sir👍🤩

  • @mishalchinnu5429
    @mishalchinnu5429 3 года назад +1

    Will these fish that have grown together fight with each other??

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад +1

      Yes, the males will start to show territorial behaviour when they mature and need to be kept individually in order to prevent unnecessary stress and damage and to promote a good health & development.

  • @nyclassic4ever130
    @nyclassic4ever130 3 года назад +1

    How many times to feed per day say at 12.29 weeks old?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад +1

      I personally feed my fish two times per day.

  • @rogelioaggalotjr.9886
    @rogelioaggalotjr.9886 4 года назад +1

    What type of my betta,his color is there head is black but there half color body is blue and the tail is blue, my fish is male

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      The fish in this video are steel blue. When the head is not colored they are referred to as 'black head' when the head is also (partially) colored steel blue they are referred to as 'mask'. I hope this answers your question?

  • @alvarezjohnmatthewa.9444
    @alvarezjohnmatthewa.9444 3 года назад +1

    Why does my betta fries stay at the bottom of the container even though they are already 3 day old? Pls notice me

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      This can vary a bit from spawn to spawn. They are probably looking for food. What are you feeding them?

  • @arshadparvez3541
    @arshadparvez3541 2 года назад +1

    can i feed infusoria for first few two weeks?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  2 года назад

      It is no problem to feed infusoria for the first days (like I use vinegar eels in the video) after the fry has absorbed the yolksac and entered the free-swimming days. But I would advise to feed newly hatched BBS after that to provide more nutrition.

  • @fishinfotamil9451
    @fishinfotamil9451 4 года назад +1

    Please put the video for betta fry maintenance.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      What would you like to know more about? There videos might be of your interest:
      - How to change water: ruclips.net/video/zEGMtBiRZ84/видео.html
      - How to move fry to the grow-out: ruclips.net/video/w2SjJrkHjac/видео.html
      - Fry food: ruclips.net/p/PLUJF09hw7hlJFdT4FrNmQthmn0MiqtK-T

  • @justacat7579
    @justacat7579 4 года назад +1

    Can u mix breed different type of Betta??

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      There are many different Betta species. These can not all be interbred. The species within the Betta splendens complex (Betta splendens, imbellis, mahachaiensis, smaragdina and stiktos) can be interbred although not all crosses will result in viable offspring.
      Domesticated Betta splendens or showbettas exist in many different color- and finnagevariations. These can be mixed although responsible breeders only do these crosses with a certain goal (improvement of color/form and/or the development of a new variation). I hope this answers your question a bit?

  • @jwaquatics5792
    @jwaquatics5792 4 года назад +1

    Yours look a lot bigger than mine but mine are on track on the size chart. They are around 1.9cm from head to dorsal fin. Is that alright. When should I start jarring?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Observation of their behaviour is the key in my opinion. The males can be recognized by their slightly longer finnage, fuller ventrals, their bodyshape, and bigger beard (gills). When their behaviour becomes more dominant/aggressive and they start flaring at other males in the tank it usually is time to jar the first males in order to prevent damage and to stimulate a good development of the fish. I hope this is of any help?

    • @jwaquatics5792
      @jwaquatics5792 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory is 1.9cm a good size for 50 days old.

  • @sharensdaily6310
    @sharensdaily6310 4 года назад +1

    Is it normal that my betta fry are in the bottom of the tank? They are still in there 4th day

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      After the yolk sac is absorbed and they enter the free swimming stage (2-3 days after hatching), they can stay on the bottom sometimes. Usually they will start exploring the tank more and more. Feeding live food like for example newly hatched BBS will also promote this.

  • @Rama-ob3tn
    @Rama-ob3tn 4 года назад +2

    Hi,what a great content
    Also, what is the breed of their parent?
    Because some of your spawns are yellow solid and coopper.
    Are their parent different?
    Thank you

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      The fish in the video are from two different spawns which grew up together. Here a link to their full spawn-logs:
      - www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819A.htm
      - www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819C.htm

  • @tago8039
    @tago8039 4 года назад +1

    Most excellent video.
    Have you considered telling people that breeding any fish shouldn't be done unless they know what they're doing and are prepared?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      Thank you 🙏. I always explain this when people want to start, this however was not the direct goal of this video. Here on my website you can find a full overview of the information I share regarding breeding Bettas (including some important considerations they should make before starting): www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-Breedingmain.htm

    • @tago8039
      @tago8039 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory it's very good that you have expressed the importance of being a responsible pet owner.
      Pet owners should do their research before they buy any pet.
      Thank you for your response.

  • @runemhard7287
    @runemhard7287 4 года назад +9

    Just curious how many time a day do you feed bbs to 1st week to 1 month .
    I love watching your channel sometimes over and over I watch cause the information is so useful . Thank you for sharing . Keep up the Awesome videos . God bless 😁🙏

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +3

      Thank you so much for your comment, excited to read this 🙏. I feed my fish twice a day (morning and evening).

    • @runemhard7287
      @runemhard7287 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory Thank you brother for responding so quickly . Thanks to people like you that take this hobby to a whole new level . Hats off to you . Aloha . 😁🙏

  • @vannarasong
    @vannarasong 2 месяца назад

    which repashy gel do you refer to? community version?

  • @jazzilynfulton6302
    @jazzilynfulton6302 4 года назад +1

    How do you tell the difference between the male and females

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      Longfinned males and females usually are easy to distuingish based on the longer finnage. But in general, males usually have a different bodyshape, larger and more voluminous finnage.
      Maybe this link to my website is of help here: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-AABAnatomy.htm

  • @erikamarsolais8663
    @erikamarsolais8663 3 года назад

    Hey what should I do if my water is tuning green at 5 weeks

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Green water not necesarily is a problem for the fish. What does the tank look like? How many hours of light is there? What are you feeding?

  • @frufbot2593
    @frufbot2593 4 года назад +2

    this is very interesting! if the betta we have follows this similarly, shes only about 8 to 9 weeks old, shes tiny compared to our older male betta

  • @justsomerandomgoldfishwith6714
    @justsomerandomgoldfishwith6714 3 года назад +2

    Hey dude! Im just wondering, how much gallons is ur growth out tank for ur betta?

  • @Krfification101
    @Krfification101 3 года назад +1

    Are these plakats? The males' tail fins seem rather short

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Yes, they are Halfmoon Plakat (HMPK).

    • @Krfification101
      @Krfification101 3 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory Thanks for letting me know. I'm trying to place the sex and age of a juvenile betta I got, and wasn't sure whether these were a good benchmark to use.

  • @andraesvlog1588
    @andraesvlog1588 4 года назад

    What should i do? Some of my fry now are showing aggression

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      How old/big are your fish now? When they are starting to become more dominant/aggressive it is important to closely observe the behaviour of your fish. Personally I usually jar my fish at an age of 2,5-4 months (depending on growth rate/development and behaviour), see 4:50 min in the video. I hope this answers your question?

  • @avronildey385
    @avronildey385 4 года назад +1

    Does we need to separate the male betta

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Yes in order to promote a good development and to prevent damage, males should be individually housed. Personally I seperate them when they start showing dominant behaviour and become agressive to siblings in the grow-out tank.

  • @akelahjarmaidatrunas6677
    @akelahjarmaidatrunas6677 8 месяцев назад

    Hi good evening can i ask you something,is it possible that i can pack my 2weeks olf fry? Is it gonna die? I'm traveling for maybe 15hours because I'm going back to my home town is if okey to repack it?

  • @EquipeSucatinhaBettas
    @EquipeSucatinhaBettas 4 года назад +1

    108/5000
    Do you use several green, plastic wires in the aquarium to protect the less aggressive fish?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +2

      This material is Eheim Fix. It is normally used in mechanical filters. In my spawning and grow-out tanks it does not have a filter function, but it provides a hide-out for my fish.

  • @souvannasengphanvilay5484
    @souvannasengphanvilay5484 4 года назад +4

    Well done on your informative video! Bettas is my passion and your video nailed it. Keep up the good work!

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      Thank you for your kind message 🙏. Happy to hear you liked the video.

  • @mysteriousen2048
    @mysteriousen2048 3 года назад +1

    In how many months betta female can give eggs.. For breeding

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Depending on the growth rate Bettas already can be sexually active at 2-3 months of age. Personally I however would not recommend to breed our fish at such a young age. Although our fish are growing throughout their whole life most of them usually are reasonably developed around at 5-6 months of age. Certain important characteristics, both positive and negative, are not visible in young fish but only appear when a fish reaches maturity. Some examples are for instance vitality, overall balance, fin curling, ability to hold their finnage, susceptibility and resistance for disease, rosetail influence, fin curling, etc. So it is important to keep in mind that when breeding fish at a young stage,there is a risk to overlook certain important characteristics you might not want to fix in your line. I hope this information is useful to you.

  • @thebassmusic5010
    @thebassmusic5010 4 года назад +1

    When will i be able to take the male betta out?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      I personally jar the first males around 3-4 months of age, but this differs from spawn to spawn and breeder to breeder. This mainly depends on how quick your fish are developing as I mention in the video also.

    • @thebassmusic5010
      @thebassmusic5010 4 года назад

      Betta Territory oh okay thank you so much also one more question, what are the leaves🍁 for that people use and put on the breeding containers for?

  • @oleksiysyrota9374
    @oleksiysyrota9374 4 года назад +6

    Awesome video, honestly one of the best I have seen so far. Have few Q - how often do you feed your fry? Some do it 3 times a day - some every 3 hrs. Second - in video on water change I saw that your younger fry does not have air filter - at what stage do you put in the tank? And last - have you used grindal worm to feed your fry? I just been using it and it works great for me because I take worms and and add cup of water to them and then rise it with through same sieve as for vinegar eels and get tiny grindal worm ,so even the smallest fry can eat it and worms live up to 4 days in the water. really hope to hear what you think and hope to see more videos on raising fry

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +3

      Thank you for your taking the time to leave a comment. In general I feed by fish usually two times a day (morning and evening). I do not use any filtration in my spawning tanks, I add a small sponge filter when the fry are about 4 weeks of age. I have no experience with feeding grindal worms myself. Good luck raising your fry.

    • @oleksiysyrota9374
      @oleksiysyrota9374 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory thank you! Follow up on it - what about air ? Do you use air stone at any point? And what about light? How long is fry has lights? Read studies that light 24-7 helps fish to grow faster and stronger

    • @KILLERGAMING-zg5dy
      @KILLERGAMING-zg5dy 3 года назад +1

      No

    • @oleksiysyrota9374
      @oleksiysyrota9374 3 года назад

      @@KILLERGAMING-zg5dy yes

  • @balakrishnaacharya4253
    @balakrishnaacharya4253 3 года назад +1

    In which month is good to breed betta fish

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      This will depend on your location and equipment. Personally I located in the Netherlands (Europe) with warm summers but cold winters. I am breeding in an insulated shed in my garden where all tanks have heaters & covers to maintain a stable temperature (to prevent fluctuations). This means I can breed througout the year.

  • @syrrheisvlogs0917
    @syrrheisvlogs0917 4 года назад +1

    Sir where to find infusoria cause my fry don't grow they are no 3 weeks old and there sizes is like 3 day old fry plss help me cause I'm just a biggener

    • @araara6388
      @araara6388 4 года назад

      Put them in a bigger tank they produce three ones which stops the growth of others around them in small spaces

  • @fathimathhilaala8262
    @fathimathhilaala8262 4 года назад +1

    Do you just buy them and breed them right away or do you wait until the male wants to breed☹☹☹☹replyyyyyy!!!

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      I mainly aim to breed selfbred fish but sometimes purchase new fish. When you consider to breed your fish make sure you are well prepared and that your fish are in optimal condition: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT-Breedingmain.htm

  • @IonutNeacsu-d2f
    @IonutNeacsu-d2f 6 месяцев назад +1

    what temperature is the water at?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  6 месяцев назад

      The temperature in my grow-outs is usually 25-26 degrees Celsius. In the summer this can be 27-30 degrees.

    • @IonutNeacsu-d2f
      @IonutNeacsu-d2f 6 месяцев назад

      Ok. Yhx!

    • @IonutNeacsu-d2f
      @IonutNeacsu-d2f 6 месяцев назад

      and one more question, how many times a day do you feed them and when do you do the first water change for the fish?

  • @Jayy0117
    @Jayy0117 3 года назад +1

    What to you feed the fry?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      In the video I mention what I feed the fry per stage on the slides introducing the new stage. Hope this answers your question.

  • @thunderanil8582
    @thunderanil8582 4 года назад +2

    How many times do u feed the fries a day sir ?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      I feed them two times per day, once in the morning (~7:00-8:00h) and once in the evening (22:00-23:00h)

    • @thunderanil8582
      @thunderanil8582 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory thanks sir for your replay

  • @Ak-kt7yx
    @Ak-kt7yx 4 года назад +1

    Do u get different colours of vetta fry?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      The fry featured in this video are from two spawns:
      - BT270819A - Yellow HMPK male x darkbody yellow HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819A.htm
      - BT270819C - Platinum white HMPK male x steel blue HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819C.htm

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine 2 года назад

    Vertically hanging in the bubble nest. 😜 Very good video. Thanks.

  • @AmandeepSingh-iu3ib
    @AmandeepSingh-iu3ib 4 года назад +1

    But the question is how much fishes survive
    I mean the Mortality rate?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      With good care (e.g. quality water, frequent water changes, quality food and a constant temperature) the majority of a spawn will survive.

  • @sumaiyaaquarius4720
    @sumaiyaaquarius4720 4 года назад +1

    Is it okay if I feed them brine at 2 days after hatching

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      Two days after hatching, Betta fry usually has just entered the free-swimming stage. Whether they can eat BBS at this stage usually is depending on the size of the fry (genetics) and the size of the newly hatched BBS (brand/origin). I have done this in the past without any problems. Good luck.

  • @mahabetta8382
    @mahabetta8382 2 года назад +1

    how to feed the betta fries?

  • @tomaszbien89
    @tomaszbien89 4 года назад +1

    Hi, do You use filter? And what do You think about filtration in betta tanks?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      I add a small airdriven sponge filter when the fry are 4-5 weeks of age. My bigger grow-out tanks have airdriven filtermats as filter as you an see here: ruclips.net/video/w2SjJrkHjac/видео.html

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      When I house fish individually this is either in my dripsystem, which has a central filtration system, or on jars on shelves which do not have a filter. In both cases 40-60% of the water is changed by manually siphoning each individual jar every 2-4 days as shown here: ruclips.net/video/zEGMtBiRZ84/видео.html

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      I hope this anwers your question?

  • @viktoriakernova7846
    @viktoriakernova7846 4 года назад +1

    Nice video! My friend is breeding bettas but in their first days a lot of them (like 10 from 15) dies. But he don’t know why. Do you have any idea why this happens?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      What is your friend feeding the fry? Further is the tank heated (what temperature) and is the tank covered?

    • @viktoriakernova7846
      @viktoriakernova7846 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory yes, tank is covered and temperature is about 25 Celsius but I am not sure what is he feeding them with. I will ask him tomorrow!

  • @touxiong7050
    @touxiong7050 Год назад

    How come mine don't have swim bladder problems

  • @balakrishnaacharya4253
    @balakrishnaacharya4253 3 года назад +1

    Should we add heater

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      This depends on the room tempetaturr and how constant the temperature is in the tank. Personally I am located in the Netherlands and always add a heater in order to prevent large fluctuations in temperature (day/night, but also seasonal).

  • @kriiizztalGaming
    @kriiizztalGaming 2 года назад

    Do you get then together or u separate them? If so when the time to separate them?🤔

  • @tago8039
    @tago8039 4 года назад

    Joep, I think someone asked how much light fry need every day but I can't find your answer now.
    Please answer the question again.
    Thank you for posting another excellent video. Sincerely 👏

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад +1

      The lights in my fishroom are on from 7-10h and 18-23:30h.

    • @tago8039
      @tago8039 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory Thanks Joep

  • @bettasvillage4136
    @bettasvillage4136 4 года назад +3

    Very valuable video. I love this. Thank. And your camera focus very good.

  • @Libertyenvy
    @Libertyenvy 2 года назад

    My first batch of fries has delayed growth but now I monitored them and I see them grow everyday also I have a second batch Wich is 2 weeks old and this is the exiting part because I know all the steps for them to take care of them

  • @maheshappikatla8848
    @maheshappikatla8848 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for this video it helped me a lot and please provide the link for the betta fry food also😁

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад +1

      Happy to hear you enjoyed the video 🙏.
      For more information about the fry food I use, click here: ruclips.net/p/PLUJF09hw7hlJFdT4FrNmQthmn0MiqtK-T

  • @j-km2621
    @j-km2621 4 года назад +7

    Thank you for this video! It helped me a lot with my Betta fry :)

  • @MrAjithsankar
    @MrAjithsankar 4 года назад +1

    I breeded alien wild male with hmpk copper female... Could you pls guess the result for me.. Very eager to see the result

  • @Ladyrose_vlog
    @Ladyrose_vlog 3 года назад

    It is normal that male betta eating there own fry? At 1 to 2 days old?

  • @midhun4213
    @midhun4213 4 года назад +2

    What's they're eating? Is that artemia

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      In the beginning of the video the fry indeed are eating newly hatched baby brine shrimp (BBS; artemia). In the title pages per stage I have indicated what food I am feeding my fish. I hope this anwers your question :D. Thank you for watching.

    • @midhun4213
      @midhun4213 4 года назад +1

      @@BettaTerritory Thanks a lot.. Dude one more question. During that fry development days do you changed water? My main problem is that.

    • @Dimentio
      @Dimentio 4 года назад

      @@midhun4213 If you're still wondering, I believe as long as the fish eat you have to change the water. Rotting food at the bottom of the tank, or waste will cause ammonia spikes if it's not cleaned and the water changed.

  • @hasinashrestha6307
    @hasinashrestha6307 4 года назад +1

    is egg yolk good for betta fry

  • @pats1358
    @pats1358 4 года назад +1

    Will they fight each other??

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      At 3-4 months of age I usually seperate the males in order to prevent fighting and unnecessary stress & damage.

    • @pats1358
      @pats1358 4 года назад

      Ohh ok thx

    • @firnasaleem9868
      @firnasaleem9868 4 года назад

      @@BettaTerritory how do we need to seperate ? males and females also fighting when we put them in a tank (one couple)?

  • @stupid_boiy6755
    @stupid_boiy6755 4 года назад

    how many betta fish can I keep on a 4 gallon tank?

    • @emilymcclour8501
      @emilymcclour8501 4 года назад

      none, a betta needs at least 10g to thrive happily.

    • @stupid_boiy6755
      @stupid_boiy6755 4 года назад

      @@emilymcclour8501 ty for telling

  • @alexb6609
    @alexb6609 3 года назад

    What am I supposed to do with all the new fish?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      This is one of the many aspects to think about before you start breeding. Most hobbyists give/sell fish to other hobbyists and aquariumstores and/or cull.

  • @luisreynoso2608
    @luisreynoso2608 3 года назад

    If you overfeed them will they developed swimbladder disease? I saw a few of your bettas in this video with swinbladder problem. How you managed to fix that problem?

    • @touxiong7050
      @touxiong7050 Год назад

      Water change and clean water will help. Feeding too much bbs develope swim bladder disease

  • @taurean9828
    @taurean9828 4 года назад +1

    WHAT KIND OF BETTAS ARE THOSE?

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  4 года назад

      The fry featured in this video are from two spawns:
      - BT270819A - Yellow HMPK male x darkbody yellow HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819A.htm
      - BT270819C - Platinum white HMPK male x steel blue HMPK female: www.bettaterritory.nl/BT270819C.htm

  • @kkutube1972
    @kkutube1972 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video. Our fry is on the 3rd day.

    • @BettaTerritory
      @BettaTerritory  3 года назад

      Thank you 🙏. Congratulations with your spawn. Do you already have some food ready when they enter the free-swimming stage?