I Broke the Tuono! So now I can fix it and Upgrade it. Suspension and alternator on the Aprilia

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • Dave's had the Tuono a year and a half now, and has finally managed to break it. So it's a golden opportunity to fix it and upgrade it.
    The forks are getting treated to some better pistons and the known issue with the electrical generator is getting sorted.
    Join Dave as he talks you through each step to making a better bike
    For enquiries about the rotor upgrade email Dominik at schmutzi1990@gmail.com
    For info about Obsession Engineering services
    www.obsessionengineering.co.uk

Комментарии • 71

  • @JDeezle21
    @JDeezle21 Год назад +2

    Jusr realized i subscribed months ago but didn't hit the bell notification so now i have to watch every video to get myself up to date. Fantastic problem to have 😎 this channel is awesome and the reason I'll be giving Bitubo a shot on my next build for next season.

  • @dougjurcich7479
    @dougjurcich7479 Год назад +2

    Lovely video! Its nice to see the fork all the way taken apart. I never knew where the pistons were and the needles. Thank you very much!!!!

  • @blackline66
    @blackline66 2 года назад +3

    These are so informative Dave. Can’t say thanks enough for your time in doing them. Looking forward to the ride review.

  • @Tubetinkerer
    @Tubetinkerer 2 года назад +2

    I remember pulling the flywheel to replace the sprag clutch. I actually relived that same joy when you eventually took it off. 😁
    Maybe replace the sprag clutch as well (with a KTM one, not the bloody expensive original one) now you're at it.
    Oh... man .... do I miss my V2 Tuono... 😖

  • @chriswilliams33
    @chriswilliams33 2 года назад +1

    Great suspension explanation Dave.

  • @stuarthall2523
    @stuarthall2523 2 года назад +1

    I had the same bike for over 4 years and loved it. Only niggle I had was the clutch losing pressure now and again, and a crap back brake.

  • @rickphillips2900
    @rickphillips2900 2 года назад +1

    Great video, I had my ZZR1400 forks upgraded using the same kit, totally transformed the bike.

  • @apriliaskreetrider5807
    @apriliaskreetrider5807 2 года назад +1

    I just swapped my stock forks for the sachs from a 2018 rsv4rr. Not a cart kit but a very good upgrade.

  • @troywee4774
    @troywee4774 2 года назад +1

    cheers for the share as always mate. cool.

  • @matejdivic9149
    @matejdivic9149 2 года назад +2

    Really like your videos Dave! For that gentleman down below ,who states that you will demagnetize flywheel by heating it, I don't see otherwise how you can pull it of , without damaging it.While engine operating flywheel anyway choking easily up to 80- 100C° I assume.

  • @MrGeorgeisonit
    @MrGeorgeisonit 2 года назад +1

    Keep em coming Dave!

  • @bobbyblueace
    @bobbyblueace 2 года назад +1

    Very educational. As usual. Good job.

  • @motorcyclegarage2307
    @motorcyclegarage2307 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the pick / seal idea, i deed to do mine on my gen 2

  • @Shinysideup
    @Shinysideup 2 года назад +1

    Interesting stuff Dave.

  • @simon_field
    @simon_field Год назад +1

    You are definitely very good!!

  • @presstodelete1165
    @presstodelete1165 2 года назад +1

    After taking about three dozen of these off, I would say that one would be in the poped off easy range.

  • @javierr1blue
    @javierr1blue 2 года назад +1

    excellent video !!

  • @stevesanelli90
    @stevesanelli90 2 года назад +2

    Always a fantastic explanation Dave! Will you experiment with 10w oil on these forks at a later stage? What would be the effect? I can’t remember if you used 5w last rebuild?

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +2

      I always use 5w (unless the oem spec is heavier). Thicker oils tend to be less consistent over temperature changes and cavitate easier. 5w is pretty much the standard for race stuff for that very reason

  • @xiaomiantonisantonis2926
    @xiaomiantonisantonis2926 2 года назад +2

    Dave if you can, please share more details about the derating of the flywheel. The procedure and the cost. I'm not in the mood to pay 1100 for a flywheel so your experience would very much appreciated.

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +2

      I'll put the contact details for the man doing the rotor work in the description

    • @Sid3Shift
      @Sid3Shift Год назад

      ​@obsession_engineering Good day, did this actually work and is the stator still happy with that mod? Is the mod working and do you perhaps have info on using the series R/R instead of shunt? I would like to beat this issue with my bike as the stator is burnt out again.

  • @tinman7781
    @tinman7781 10 месяцев назад +1

    My bike was banned permanently from a workshop for that 648 green loctite...took him 2 weeks, many tools and a whole lot of fire to get that bastard off.

  • @MrSportster12
    @MrSportster12 2 года назад +2

    Nice video. Would it have cost Aprilla that much to have the original suspension made to the K Tech spec? Surely even if they added £100 to each bike it would pay them in the long run to have a brand which had great suspension right out the box?

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +1

      I'm sure they could have improved them for very little. But to be fair to them they aren't bad forks, I'm just fussy 😁
      And of course they did the upgrades in the factory version

  • @singlecylinderassassin
    @singlecylinderassassin 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just got my first 2007 tuono and thinking about upgrading the suspension with the k tech kit. How do you fit the rebound needles in to the end of the rods, you mentioned cutting the ends of the rods off but it’s not in the video. Thanks Dave

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  10 месяцев назад

      They're held in place with springs, no solid attachment required

  • @rickphillips2900
    @rickphillips2900 2 года назад +1

    After watching these videos I'm sorely tempted to get one of these for a fun bike. What are the things to look for when buying one?

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +1

      Cracking bikes! The engines are strong. The charging system is the weak link. The later bikes had most of the niggles fixed and a lot of the earlier ones will have been upgraded by now.
      The fuel tanks can swell if cheap fuel is left in too long.
      Nothing too scary really, especially for an Italian

    • @rickphillips2900
      @rickphillips2900 2 года назад

      @@obsession_engineering thanks Dave

  • @kawi704racing
    @kawi704racing 2 года назад +1

    Do you think you could try to explain how adjustment effects feel on a closed circuit track, in different scenarios? Thank you.

  • @Mitchwilmarth
    @Mitchwilmarth Год назад +1

    @4:31 what are those “special pliers” called? Thanks for making these videos!

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  Год назад +1

      I'll be honest I'm not sure! I've had them years and can't even remember where I got them, sorry

    • @Mitchwilmarth
      @Mitchwilmarth Год назад

      @@obsession_engineering no problem! Thanks for responding!

  • @zed266
    @zed266 2 года назад +1

    Hi Dave just to echo what Xiaomiantonis Antonis asked can you please post details of the chap doing the work on the flywheel Thanks

  • @gunit1782
    @gunit1782 2 года назад +1

    Great explanation and videos always,did you lock your crank with a specific tool or bolt? if so which size thanks!

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +1

      There is a crank locking bolt on the Rhs of the motor, modified m8 bolt worked perfectly

  • @bryansuperduke1290r
    @bryansuperduke1290r 2 года назад +1

    I would have thought it would be the stator that needed mod not the flywheel.

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +1

      I'd have thought so too, but turns out that it's the rotor creating too much magnetism!

    • @xpanco
      @xpanco 2 года назад +1

      Dave's is correct, its the flywheel thats the issue...but the v4 also have issues with burning stator,just 3 times cheaper to have the stator replaced

  • @salvoromano3489
    @salvoromano3489 Год назад +1

    Which graduation do you have used ? 10w or 5w?
    I have bought the silkolene 5w ( 26,7cst at 40°c)

  • @carsishh
    @carsishh Год назад

    when you were doing the pushrod seal do you remember what the criteria for the seal was? I'm looking to replace mine but here in America they are very hard to come across, we have lots of generic stores though.

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  Год назад +1

      I can't remember the exact seal, but it will be marked on the existing seal and can be cross referenced from the part number

  • @mikefry6765
    @mikefry6765 2 года назад +1

    Hi Dave great video as always
    What is the cost of the Ktec kit ?

  • @markroe5845
    @markroe5845 2 года назад

    Hi ,great vids , I’ve got the same bike and have replaced the clutch oil seal from Aprilia as you say £28, it’s leaking again after 2 years, just wondering if you have got any info we’re I could get 1 like yours 👍

  • @ducaduke
    @ducaduke 2 года назад

    dave please i have a question . im doing valves for the first time! my question is my clearance is 0.13-0.15. i can fit a 0.10 -0.15 .and a 0.20 there is more resistance but it still fits. so my question are my valves still to loose sinces i can fit a 0.20. sorry for my noobest lol. love love your videos thank you for all you do !

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад

      If a 0.2 fits, but is tight, I'd say the clearance is pretty much 0.2, so a bit loose if its supposed to be 0.15.
      .13-.15 seems a very small tolerance, if it's ducati I'd check if there's an 'in service' tolerance as they're sometimes bigger than the 'build' tolerance

    • @ducaduke
      @ducaduke 2 года назад

      Ok first of all I can’t thank you enough for your reply! Ok so I want to make it where a 0.20 doesn’t fit at all and make it where a 0.15 is tight? Again thank you 🙏🏼

  • @bikerboi1983
    @bikerboi1983 2 года назад +1

    Hi. What was involved with changing the needles on the end of the rebound rods? thanks

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад +1

      Actually not much on these forks, as the needles were the same stand out as stock so I just pulled the originals out of the tubes

    • @bikerboi1983
      @bikerboi1983 2 года назад

      @@obsession_engineering Hi Dave. is there a trick to that, as they look like they are crimped on to the std needles. or is it litterly, just pull them out?

    • @iang2204
      @iang2204 4 месяца назад +1

      @@bikerboi1983 A bit late on 2 years after the fact but for anyone else interested I found it best to gently drill out the crimp depressions with a small bit and then twist and pull

    • @bikerboi1983
      @bikerboi1983 4 месяца назад

      @iang2204 figured it out by myself in the end. Cheers for the reply though may help someone else

  • @michaelwatt1279
    @michaelwatt1279 2 года назад

    How are you getting on with the derated rotor Dave?

  • @yzfr6806
    @yzfr6806 2 года назад +1

    Where can i derate my flywheel? I want my Tuono as reliable as possible?

  • @jhstony
    @jhstony 2 года назад +1

    I really want to understand about forks Dave, but even with you describing everything, I’m still confused.com

  • @MrMaaalek
    @MrMaaalek 2 года назад +1

    therefore cannot be heated en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature

    • @obsession_engineering
      @obsession_engineering  2 года назад

      Interesting stuff, but as I was looking to reduce magnetism anyway I won't worry this time!