Cats play hard ball! - Bailey Smith deal going down to the wire? | Trading Day | Fox Footy
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- The Trading Day panel break down the Bailey Smith trade from the Dogs to the Cats, which is looming as a last-minute deadline day deal.
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Lot of reference to his 2021 form and that finals series he had but we are about to enter 2025 three seasons on and his form and lack of play time or being an integral part of the team doesn't really warrant a whole lot more than a first rounder
I understand the point of Dixon, but not the one of Montagna. Yes Geelong have said they want him, but it won't be at overs, he's not that type of player. Danger & Cameron are players you mortgage your future for. Not Smith, a player who for multiple reasons hasn't had an elite season in 3yrs. St Kilda aren't in a position where it is worth the risk. A one and done deal makes them worse over a 4-5yr period. GWS is a different story, they could get the benefit of a one and done because they are in a win now mentality.
Also to say late picks don't mean anything, have you seen Geelong's list? It is full of late picks who are regular senior players, i.e. the last pick they had last year - Humphreys.
Bulldogs should call their bluff.
And end up with nothing while Cats end up with Smith for 17 in the draft.
I agree that Geelong has to pay a lot more for Smith. OK. Now if he went through to the National Draft then if I was St Kilda or Essendon then I would automatically draft Smith. Why? Because both St Kilda & Essendon badly need elite midfielders. OK.
Collingwood could swoop in if they dont get Houston with pick 13.
yes, so? They'll get a player who'll be disinterested.
@@jonsnow3521disinterested? How so?
Jay is obviously not very smart. Any of the other teams would gladly have Smith.
Also, can we stop calling it "mental health issues" when we know it's a drug issue.
Probably both
Some club should pick him up just for a year and then trade him
why? & what reputation would that club get?
@@jonsnow3521 who fucking cares. They’d get a good reputation with their fans for picking up a good player, and it might bite the other clubs in the arse for resting on their laurels and expecting these deals to go through magically. So many people think it’s bad business to not give clubs and players whatever they want and it’s just not true and incredibly stupid.
@@jonsnow3521clubs like Essendon exist. 😂 they are rock bottom
I'll laugh my head off if Smith has to go to the draft and another club pick him before Geelong.
If I'm the dogs, I pick him up if he goes to the draft and tell Geelong "see you again in 12 months when he's under contract".
Bulldogs-He’s 23yo marketability and great’21 season! Cats recovering from an ACL, Drug issues . Pick 17 1st rounder. He is no Tim Kelly though.
Tim Kelly nearly won the brownlow in his last year with the cats to be fair to Geelong.
pick 17 or nothing Bulldogs not leaving with nothing. Not like they are offering pick 35. Media talking crap again. "Great work Dicko" Sam power leaves with nothing not a option and Cats know it!
FFS if Dan Rioli is pick 6. Cats are scum let him go to the draft
I hope Smith goes to the draft and someone picks him before Geelong. 😂
@PeterAtkinson And when has that ever happened! Players always get to where they want to go
@@hadenoughofhecrap nick stevens
@@mrnatural48 A long time ago Buckley to Bribane but never works out
@@hadenoughofhecrapyes good comment. Buckley missed a few premierships as deserved.
i hope your team stays at the bottom where it belongs.
If he were to go to the draft and someone other than Geelong selects him, what happens if he refuses to play for them?
So many bluffs from all sides. St Kilda would take him. Essendon looking for outside run on the wing.
Geelong playing hard ball again, no pre-season draft high contract cost shenanigans because it will pressure their salary cap, might be why they are holding off on the contract details of Dangerfield how much on contract and how much paper bag money, I mean corporate opportunities.
jealousy is unbecoming.. lol
Yeh it's crazy to think that in today's game, that salary cap breaches are somehow fair game.
It will go down to the last hour to keep some interest and suspense in trade period. In reality, deal get done. His buying house in Geelong.
Hope Daniel goes to norf. Would be good to see them gain an experienced player.
norf get enough freebies already.
Not having a crack at StKilda but they have gotten low draft picks a while now and they will get another next year so if I was them I would take him with one of the picks and take a chance, they have a second top pick for a youngster so go for it
2021 was a while ago and he has had an acl and missed a full season. Pick 17 seems fair
The cats get what they want when they want and not a darn fool can do anything about it as proven year after year
Isnt it interesting how Geelong wanted the world from WCE for Tim Kelly a few years back when he was out of contract.
Geelong will have to yield, i cant see Smiths sponsor down that being happy if he gets walked to the PSD due to them not trading in good faith.
Send him to the draft and get nothing great idea, we will take a first rounder who hasn’t been on the sideline and their ACL in tact.
@@jeremybourke1301 Mate, its your club thats been in his ear for 2 years, your going to look foolish if it falls through & will put off others nominating the cats. A former Pick 7 at 23 with 100 games.....ok take a 1st rounder instead, by the time theyre up to it danger & cameron will be gone.
@@markcentrist9683 how do you know what was said between the two? I don’t think Doggies have the whip hand in this, but if you think they do, congrats.
@@jeremybourke1301who could be a dud. Most dogs draft have been shite Smith wil be a super star
So if this deal looks a bit dicey, imagine how it would have looked if they had Oliver to draft as well.
Cats will give “Pick 17” this year (which will end up at like 20 or 21 after bids and a future 2nd or future 3rd.)
You don’t start on your highest bid straight away you start lower and work your way to meeting in the middle.
Dogs wanted “two firsts”, Cats offering “one first” so what is meeting in the middle?….a first and a second or third!
Negotiation 101. People are losing their minds and it’s what? Day 3.
Just need to settle. Dogs and Cats will get it done.
As a Hawks fan,i hope someone else picks Smith..fk geelong 😂
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Has Ginni sobered up yet?
looooooser!!
Haha yeah. Kangas
@@robbie12207 got the picks, WTF not ?
If the AFL was truly about equalisation thered be a rule that the best players would go to the lowest teams and work back
Geelong are absolute grubs. Keep pushing like they did with Kelly
Jealous much, lol. Try learning the facts b4 spouting emotional rants. Grubs? Talking about your own team again?🤣😂🤣😂😅🤫
@@jonsnow3521what facts?
@@richardbehan8118 Facts about the cats history, rather than baseless emotional rants. Anyone who actually knows about the cats knows they are the opposite of grubs. Either she is a child (thus repeating crap she hears from family etc), or she's lazy (hasn't done any research but loves to crap on successful people), or she's disingenuous.
@@richardbehan8118 All sides 'push', ie do what they think is best for their club. This aint no socialist marxist system where everyone gets a snowflake gold sticker for 'participating' then gets given teh GF when their turn comes round.
@@jonsnow3521 I'm pretty sure by "grubs" they mean, when it comes down to trades. They underpay for incoming trades and ask overs for outgoing trades.
how do the cats keep doing this lol
Doing what ? Being a good football club ?
@@brentt8940 I agree, they are brilliant at it.
Well, having cotton on as a sponsor is helping. They can under pay Smith on their own books and cotton on can pay him more through endorsements.
@@richardbehan8118 dude pretty much all teams do that. It’s not part of his cap. It’s like saying Collingwood players driving lexas.
@@brentt8940 You seem to be defensive, we are just saying how great Geelong is. They have been doing this for 20 years now, Everytime I write them off they prove me wrong, I am a lions supporter, and wow we are scared of you again.
Athletic tiger 53
pretty embarrassing listening to these armchair experts talk about a 23 year old
Good luck Bulldogs dealing with Geelong. Mackie is a prick to deal with.
Absolutely, I know of no decent player that has ever wanted to go to Geelong! Absolutely crap of a club and run very poorly. Didn't even make the finals twice in the last 15 years, pathetic!
So much hate (ie jealousy) of the Cats & their success. WHy? Tall poppy/grubby socialist mindset it seems.
Their success wasn't given to them on a platter like the expansion clubs or cellar dwellers getting $$$ & numerous top picks thrown at them, but earned over 2 decades no less, thru hard work, planning, professional appointments across all levels, team 1st mindset, family club culture (proven with charitable actions not meaningless words), creative thinking (recruiting mature aged when it was unheard of (eg Podsiadly), internationals (eg Ireland), different sports (runners/steeple chasers/basket ballers, etc), & left fielders from obscure amateur clubs; players accept much lower contracts for the sake of the team, inventing new strategies, envied player development system, great off field culture & lifestyle, rescued self-imploded players, etc etc.
People forget that when cats won in 07 it ended yrs of slow boring defensive footy (eg Syd) everyone was complaining about, with the cats fats running, highly skilled techniques to blast thru the defensive mindsets of the day. Cats made footy exciting again. You're welcome!
And teh cats have managed to stay near the top ever since despite the marxist equalization measures by developing low ranked players no one wanted.
Too many Ausies are low class socialists enamored with the freebie lazy mindset & hate of anyone clearly better than they are.
Out of contract. 17 or nothing. Luke Power needs to be drug tested if he thinks marketing effects draft picks.
Edit..... Sam not Luke. I did think he was looking a bit rough.
Poor Luke Power copping shade
I think you mean Sam lol 😂👍
Smith is weak minded