Saints need to hold on to Lattimore for now. I think Kool-Aid will be a great player but he still would be a rookie going up against veteran NFL receivers.
We all know latti is a great player when healthy but his contract is an albatross at this point. Considering that and his injury history, if a team is willing to take his contract for a draft pick even just a fifth/fourth, I think taking it is the prudent choice. It won’t have anything to do with his skills as a player but will allow the team to be more competitive relative to the salary cap from a position that the team is pretty deep at.
No less than a third round imo Every team has injuries they play on turf not grass . It's not your friend . That said it is a business who was coach when his contract was signed last?
Trading Lattimore for a conditional 5th should be a fireable offense. The Ramsey trade is the most similar situation and he went for a 3rd. Therefore, a 3rd should be the absolute bottom dollar. (comparing Lattimore to the Fields situation is dumb as fuck, btw)
Its not always about the player look at his contract its a cap hit of 31 million next year!!!! Thats about 30% of the cap for next season...then fans wonder why we cant sings top free agents in there prime when they become available....
I really wish people who don’t understand contracts, wouldn’t talk about contracts. The dead money is there, on the Saints books and stays on the Saints books, regardless of if Lattimore is traded. The 30 million dollar number is ridiculous to mention, because the saints will have to account for 20 million that’s already paid to him regardless, that is factored into his 30 million dollar cap number! The acquiring team wouldn’t pay that dead money, they’d pay Lattimore 15 million in 2024, & about 18 million per in 2025 & 2026. That’s a very reasonable salary for a number 1 CB and nothing beyond 2024 is guaranteed.
A trade involving ML would have nothing to do with talent, the talent we're giving away, or the talent we'd get in exchange through the draft. Obviously, a 4th or 5th round pick would in no way replace the talent we lose with ML. The trade, if made, would be all about cap space. The 4th or 5th round pick would just be getting what we can in addition to the savings.
We have ZERO chance of being SB contenders with the WORST Head Coach in the league. So as much as I love Lattimore, the smart business decision would be to trade him, acquire draft capital and try to have a better cap next season. But only if the offer is good. I can't stand watching Loomis getting fleeced again.
@Sheriffryewhiskey to trade 1 Outside Corner, when we have other 3 very good ones, to save some VERY needed cap space, and add draft capital, is far from "burning it down". It's a business decision. Sometimes you have to make tough ones.
@@coryjackson6034 just say get rid of all your vets for young guys and fire the head coach you'd be happy I think your a dang fool That thinks he knows football. Like I said Sean Payton left this team in this mess Period .
@@tomaspenna2815 lol yes Why get rid of latt? Their is no good reason unless you can't refuse the deal Kool aid is in proven you lost talent in the room already Mathews ain't gonna be around much longer nor is DD Who left this mess the saints Are in a situation unprecedented in team history. Thanks to Sean Payton I loved him as a coach Pete shoulda been gone 4/5 years ago. The salty cap issues didn't happen in three years you can't expect it to be resolved in three years . You have to have leadership and vets to pass along the system unless you start all over . Pretty much The new OC doesn't even know what he working with yet Smh IMO getting rid of latt would demoralizing the whole defense ATM maybe next year like Mike Thomas kept him around three years he didn't even play or show interest in being around
Because we want to retain the younger ascending CB in Paulson Adebo. Bc want to move Alontae to his natural position outside. Bc we need to clear future cap space.
I'd trade Latt (post 6/1), trade Kamara & cut Ramczyk (pre 6/1). None of those guys have moved the needle. It seems smarter to clear that $ long term so we can retain young players moving forward. Virtually digs us out of the cap hole with 3 moves. I don't get the sense Latt or AK believe in this staff or team either so let them go compete in their twilight, get something back while we can.
@@Sheriffryewhiskey trading 2 near thirty year old, expiring players is hardly 'burning it all down.' If neither will be on the team 1 year from now anyway, I'm not sure I even understand the argument to paying them what they're currently due. Not to mention we just drafted a top 75 RB & have 3 young CBs (one of which is absolutely necessary to extend). The difference of where we currently stand vs. my idea is entering next offseason -$72m over the cap vs. only -$3m. That's a drastic difference for 2 guys who aren't bought in 100% nor going to be on roster long term anyway. I got news for you, the current model is burning it all down already. We lose young talent every offseason because we're so far over the cap. We're forced to restructure bad contacts, extend dead weight. I just gave a viable solution.
@@scoutwithoutclout burn it down fan You forgetting who left this mess paying old players the abandoned the team... It's wasn't DA it was Sean Payton. You hate head coach and the GM. Why don't you scout or coach If you have all the answers Jus burn it down.. that's your answer ?!.
@@scoutwithoutcloutyes cuz getting a 3rd and 4th for AK and Lattimore is SUCH a good deal😂😂if we talking 1sts then I’ll hear your argument. But I’d rather them walk for free then get 5th and 4th rd picks 😂😂
He needs to go, even if we only get a 5th round pick. Can't pay a CB that much if he can't stay on the field. If another team wants him to make a playoff push, let him go. Kool-Aid will be his replacement in the future and the new coach next year needs more picks. (ALSO TRADE KAMARA!!!)
The Saints are in a soft reset. Trading assets while staying competitive is tricky. We’re gonna look different in two seasons. This is the end of the road that they’ve been kicking the can down. It’s still a business.
Anything less than a second shouldn’t even be entertained. Idk if he hurt. I’d rather have a hurt Lattimore than a poo 4th rounder who ain’t gonna be half as good as lattimore
ATTENTION: When you got “mid” pass rush/sack total; you NEVER trade your ELITE CB. Latt can lock down almost every WR except DK “Daddy Metcalf. Make him play ball Mickey Mouse.
For all of the fans that says dont trade him for a 5th...we would be lucky to be able to give him away with a cap hit of 31 million next season...why would we want to keep a player that has missed half the season the past two years and taking up close to 30% of the cap for next year....if you dont understand nfl football just say that!!
Saints need to hold on to Lattimore for now. I think Kool-Aid will be a great player but he still would be a rookie going up against veteran NFL receivers.
We ain’t trading that man. That would be stupid
Thank you
I think we keep him this year and cut him next year.
I see you know zero about football....
@@coryjackson6034 I see you need to stay on the sidelines too waterboy
@@coryjackson6034 the football knowitall
The expert !.
This subject it’s starting to look thirsty for content why does the media keep running this story line are y’all trying to run him off smh
Saints shouldn't just give Lattemore away. When he is healthy and on the field, he is the only true shutdown corner they have!
Have ever had!
Yep but at this point his cap hit next year is 31 million...hasn't finished the last two seasons...we would be lucky to get someone to take him!!!
@@coryjackson6034you fkn trippin get him help opposite of him so he doesn’t have to be so dependent on following the no.1 receiver every play
We all know latti is a great player when healthy but his contract is an albatross at this point. Considering that and his injury history, if a team is willing to take his contract for a draft pick even just a fifth/fourth, I think taking it is the prudent choice. It won’t have anything to do with his skills as a player but will allow the team to be more competitive relative to the salary cap from a position that the team is pretty deep at.
Atleast you understand how it works
No less than a third round imo
Every team has injuries they play on turf not grass . It's not your friend .
That said it is a business who was coach when his contract was signed last?
Trading Lattimore for a conditional 5th should be a fireable offense.
The Ramsey trade is the most similar situation and he went for a 3rd. Therefore, a 3rd should be the absolute bottom dollar.
(comparing Lattimore to the Fields situation is dumb as fuck, btw)
Its not always about the player look at his contract its a cap hit of 31 million next year!!!! Thats about 30% of the cap for next season...then fans wonder why we cant sings top free agents in there prime when they become available....
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I really wish people who don’t understand contracts, wouldn’t talk about contracts.
The dead money is there, on the Saints books and stays on the Saints books, regardless of if Lattimore is traded.
The 30 million dollar number is ridiculous to mention, because the saints will have to account for 20 million that’s already paid to him regardless, that is factored into his 30 million dollar cap number!
The acquiring team wouldn’t pay that dead money, they’d pay Lattimore 15 million in 2024, & about 18 million per in 2025 & 2026.
That’s a very reasonable salary for a number 1 CB and nothing beyond 2024 is guaranteed.
Trade Carr before he gets our WR’ s injured
I guess we gonna just keep talking about until it really happens. The guys is a stud, leave him right where he’s at!!
A 31 million dollar cap hit stud huh....he's not worth 31 million in cap space!!! Please go learn nfl contacts and how they work..
First , thank you for another video to enjoy on lunch
No thanks. I’ll keep him on the team if all we could get is a 5th
Just keep him if you still value him as player and you cannot get a good trade deal done.
Still young and I knw coaches like we can win a championship for show wit this guy
He…is…not…going…to…be…traded
There's no way we trading him for no 5th round
agree...keep him in contract year then let him walk or sign and trade. Hey Kool Aid!!
@@hansumjoe yep!
Agreed. Lattimore will be on the team. Alontae was not good at the nickel last year. This is possibly where Kool-Aid fits in next year.
Better idea: trade Lattimore to the Raiders for Michael Mayer.
A trade involving ML would have nothing to do with talent, the talent we're giving away, or the talent we'd get in exchange through the draft. Obviously, a 4th or 5th round pick would in no way replace the talent we lose with ML. The trade, if made, would be all about cap space. The 4th or 5th round pick would just be getting what we can in addition to the savings.
We have ZERO chance of being SB contenders with the WORST Head Coach in the league.
So as much as I love Lattimore, the smart business decision would be to trade him, acquire draft capital and try to have a better cap next season.
But only if the offer is good. I can't stand watching Loomis getting fleeced again.
Another burn it down saints fan
You guys a dime a dozen
Smh.
@Sheriffryewhiskey just say you dont understand nfl contracts and salary cap instead of making false statements against fans please!!!
@Sheriffryewhiskey to trade 1 Outside Corner, when we have other 3 very good ones, to save some VERY needed cap space, and add draft capital, is far from "burning it down".
It's a business decision. Sometimes you have to make tough ones.
@@coryjackson6034 just say get rid of all your vets for young guys and fire the head coach you'd be happy
I think your a dang fool
That thinks he knows football.
Like I said Sean Payton left this team in this mess
Period .
@@tomaspenna2815 lol yes
Why get rid of latt?
Their is no good reason unless you can't refuse the deal
Kool aid is in proven you lost talent in the room already
Mathews ain't gonna be around much longer nor is DD
Who left this mess the saints
Are in a situation unprecedented in team history. Thanks to Sean Payton
I loved him as a coach Pete shoulda been gone 4/5 years ago.
The salty cap issues didn't happen in three years you can't expect it to be resolved in three years .
You have to have leadership and vets to pass along the system unless you start all over . Pretty much
The new OC doesn't even know what he working with yet
Smh
IMO getting rid of latt would demoralizing the whole defense
ATM maybe next year like Mike Thomas kept him around three years he didn't even play or show interest in being around
Top 5 Corner in the league with out a doubt. I would definitely want my team to give up 2nd or 3rd Ed draft pick
Why trade again? Isn’t he like a beast still? And who’s gonna cover Mike Evens twice a year?
Because we want to retain the younger ascending CB in Paulson Adebo. Bc want to move Alontae to his natural position outside. Bc we need to clear future cap space.
I'd trade Latt (post 6/1), trade Kamara & cut Ramczyk (pre 6/1). None of those guys have moved the needle. It seems smarter to clear that $ long term so we can retain young players moving forward. Virtually digs us out of the cap hole with 3 moves. I don't get the sense Latt or AK believe in this staff or team either so let them go compete in their twilight, get something back while we can.
Yeah hard pass buddy😂
Another burn it all down fan
Smh
@@Sheriffryewhiskey trading 2 near thirty year old, expiring players is hardly 'burning it all down.' If neither will be on the team 1 year from now anyway, I'm not sure I even understand the argument to paying them what they're currently due. Not to mention we just drafted a top 75 RB & have 3 young CBs (one of which is absolutely necessary to extend). The difference of where we currently stand vs. my idea is entering next offseason -$72m over the cap vs. only -$3m. That's a drastic difference for 2 guys who aren't bought in 100% nor going to be on roster long term anyway. I got news for you, the current model is burning it all down already. We lose young talent every offseason because we're so far over the cap. We're forced to restructure bad contacts, extend dead weight. I just gave a viable solution.
@@scoutwithoutclout burn it down fan
You forgetting who left this mess paying old players the abandoned the team...
It's wasn't DA it was Sean Payton.
You hate head coach and the GM.
Why don't you scout or coach
If you have all the answers
Jus burn it down.. that's your answer ?!.
@@scoutwithoutcloutyes cuz getting a 3rd and 4th for AK and Lattimore is SUCH a good deal😂😂if we talking 1sts then I’ll hear your argument. But I’d rather them walk for free then get 5th and 4th rd picks 😂😂
When healthy dude is a top 5 CB in the league. You dont trade him for a 5th
The second we trade him adebo will get hurt. Please keep latty
I lost a little respect for you when you compared Marshawn to fields
He needs to go, even if we only get a 5th round pick. Can't pay a CB that much if he can't stay on the field. If another team wants him to make a playoff push, let him go. Kool-Aid will be his replacement in the future and the new coach next year needs more picks. (ALSO TRADE KAMARA!!!)
I know we wouldnt get a 1st but a 5th? Maybe a 3rd and a 5th or 6th
The Saints are in a soft reset. Trading assets while staying competitive is tricky. We’re gonna look different in two seasons. This is the end of the road that they’ve been kicking the can down. It’s still a business.
Might as well ask for a bag of chips along with it…Hell to the no!!! Why GIVE AWAY a TOP TEN corner? 🤦♂️
KEEP LATTI DADDY
Bruh let it gooooo. I know you need content but Latty not moving
A 5th round pick for Lattimore is a stupid trade
Anything less than a second shouldn’t even be entertained. Idk if he hurt. I’d rather have a hurt Lattimore than a poo 4th rounder who ain’t gonna be half as good as lattimore
This is why Loomis is a bad gm we should never be in the cap trouble every year
HELL NO
Lattimore is worth way more then a 4th-5th rd pick are y’all fkn smoking crack
NO
There is no CB n the NFL rite now better than him a First or Second is easy for him a 5th 😂 hell naw
It’s best they keep him cuz a good shut down CB don’t fall off a tree if I’m Mickey I’m keeping him and riding it out
I'm still waiting to hear why are we talking about trading him? Thirsty Media Content...SMDH
Just say you know absolutely nothing about NFL football instead of accusing people that's doing hard work of something that's not true!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ATTENTION: When you got “mid” pass rush/sack total; you NEVER trade your ELITE CB. Latt can lock down almost every WR except DK “Daddy Metcalf. Make him play ball Mickey Mouse.
For all of the fans that says dont trade him for a 5th...we would be lucky to be able to give him away with a cap hit of 31 million next season...why would we want to keep a player that has missed half the season the past two years and taking up close to 30% of the cap for next year....if you dont understand nfl football just say that!!
Because elite talent doesn't grow on trees. Marshon is elite
🙅🏾♂️Not listen to this!
Saints are not a contender 😂