Amazigh History of North Africa | Brahim El Guabli

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • The history of North Africa is infinitely complex and barbed with post-colonial tensions. In this conversation, Professor Brahim El Guabli helps to shed light on this region's history through an Amazigh lens. He tells us about the violence of the word "Berber", Morocco's Years of Lead, and qualifying French as a colonial language or not. The episode touches on the Jewish population of Morocco, searching for "other archives" in which absent histories can be found and engaged with, and how to decolonize one's own mind and self through research.
    0:00 Introduction
    1:42 "Moroccan Other-Archives: History and Citizenship after State Violence"
    7:23 The Amazigh Question and Meaning of "Amazigh" & "Tamazgha"
    12:31 Origins of Arabization in North Africa
    20:51 Darija to Tamazigh
    23:05 Jewish Population of Morocco
    37:35 Reclaiming "Amazigh" Roots
    40:20 The Colonizer's Language: French and Arabic
    47:46 Resource Recommendations
    57:16 Morocco's Years of Lead
    1:00:01 North African Literature To Read
    Brahim El Guabli is the Chair and Associate Professor of Arabic Studies. He is interested in topics of Maghrebi and Middle Eastern literature, including trauma and memory, Saharan imaginations, Jews in Arabic literature and film, transitional justice processes, translation, current events, Marxist Leninist Movements, Afro-Arab solidarities, and decolonization movements. He is the co-founder and co-editor of Tamazgha Studies Journal.
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Комментарии • 51

  • @sonia8535
    @sonia8535 Месяц назад +11

    Unity in diversity.. such powerful words , thanks for interviewing Prof. Guabli

    • @afikra
      @afikra  Месяц назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @saneb-wj5kz
    @saneb-wj5kz Месяц назад +8

    Thank you very much for that interesting topic. I would suggest including Arabic subtitles, because I would like to share your wonderful work with Arabic speaking friends.

  • @sheddybhulji8196
    @sheddybhulji8196 Месяц назад +3

    Great historical exposition . Thanks for this video❤❤

    • @afikra
      @afikra  Месяц назад +1

      Glad you found it useful!

  • @saadkabbara9644
    @saadkabbara9644 Месяц назад +1

    Epic interview, thank you both 🙏🏽

    • @afikra
      @afikra  Месяц назад

      Glad you found it informative!

  • @lindalakhdari1049
    @lindalakhdari1049 Месяц назад +4

    Azul iy Imazighen meṛṛa seg Tizi Wezzu ♓

  • @malakmkelghuel
    @malakmkelghuel Месяц назад

    Absolutely love this episode! Thank you !

    • @afikra
      @afikra  Месяц назад

      We're happy to hear!

  • @user-wo2uu2ee5w
    @user-wo2uu2ee5w Месяц назад +1

    that is an informative and illuminative conversation, thanks

    • @afikra
      @afikra  Месяц назад

      We're glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Jsala77
    @Jsala77 Месяц назад +1

    Very good explanation

  • @vanbucsko3245
    @vanbucsko3245 20 дней назад +1

    Would it be possible to get a list of the authors he mentions at the end as well as in the rest of the episode? I really want to check them out but as a non-native Arab speaker I’m having a hard time understanding their names.

    • @afikra
      @afikra  13 дней назад +1

      He's a follow-up Daftar piece with all of El Guabli's recommended reading. Hope this helps! www.afikra.com/daftarjournal/north-african-history-through-an-amazigh-lens-resources-recommended-by-brahim-el-guabli

    • @vanbucsko3245
      @vanbucsko3245 13 дней назад

      @@afikra thanks so much!

  • @4misa2078
    @4misa2078 Месяц назад +1

    watch from Morocco, amazigh ❤

  • @dpireader32
    @dpireader32 25 дней назад +1

    Correction: Imazighen do not identify themselves only through language, this is not true. Imazighen identify themselves also by ethnicity, a riffi is a riffi, a soussi is a soussi, also identify from what lands your ancestors come from, culture and of course language

  • @user-nm3fl6ps4v
    @user-nm3fl6ps4v Месяц назад

    Mr professor you are right the way that ouropians transilated is wrong but the word barbar roots back to horn of africa which means different colours historically the barbar were divided into two groups the barbar of north africa and those on east africa but amazigh as well as tuareg retained their culture and language.

  • @homtanks7259
    @homtanks7259 Месяц назад +1

    Allah's sharia is the only way, never forget that fact

  • @dpireader32
    @dpireader32 25 дней назад +1

    Totally disagree with the guest. French is a language a lot of imazighen despice. Also morocco is more and more leaving french behind, and is turning towards English. The guest with all due respect needs to decolonize from the french language and influences. French is not North-African, this guest maybe has a inferiority complex towards the French. He quotes Amazigh Nationalists like Katib Yasin and those guys definitely were influenced by the French. So it explains his attachement to French. Down with French, up with Tamazight and Arabic. True Amazigh only speak Tamazight and Arabic as their native languages. This guy is an Amazigh nationalist. I am pro Amazigh culture but this guy quotes Amazigh Nationalists who had close connections with the French. They are a very small minority, the normal Amazigh is just an Amazigh with love for their religion as muslims. But i agree with his vision of a plural Morocco, it always has been a plural region.

  • @lindalakhdari1049
    @lindalakhdari1049 Месяц назад

    Amazigh is one nation under one mother language Tamazight in Tamazgha land.

  • @ismailouraich5951
    @ismailouraich5951 21 день назад

    First of all, I am Amazigh too. Second, the claim that the ethnic dimension does not matter is but a fool's claim. Third, with respect to the arabisation policies in the 60s, 70s, etc. ought to be understood in their context as a countermeasure for the Francofonisation policies that the main colonial power, France, imposed on the country and from which we continue to suffer to this day. Finally, the author ought to read more history about the great migratory waves that settled North Africa and which suggests that the main waves of migration did indeed come from the Middle-East, with a mixing that occured with waves from Subsaharan Africa. There is an "extremist" interpretation of the Amazigh as en ethnic group which suggests that they appeared out of nowhere to populate North Africa!

  • @SURAH267
    @SURAH267 Месяц назад +1

    What makes me hopping mad with countries like Egypt Morocco Algerian and its people
    Most think their ARAB, their NORTH africian
    Each country different
    In some ways this feeling of speading of islam, fave people a falce identity??????

    • @Shook1917
      @Shook1917 Месяц назад +2

      It isnt one size fits all. There was a lot of mixing in Andulsia and Phoenicians (Semitic blood) were in the area. In the end, all these things are minor. The history is complex and for those who never mix of course they are only Amazigh but there are 55% mixing rate. For example the Palestinian,syrian and Lebanon area is a different type of Arab then in the gulf. Another fact is arab is not defined as gulf arab. The origins of arabs in present day Jordan Palestine Syria Lebanon is found in ancient times. In the end, All these countries have shared history, share food and culture. It is silly to focus on differences. I will say this French and Italy are stated as Amazigh identities; why doesn’t bring anger . The truth is every region has its unique background.

    • @Shook1917
      @Shook1917 Месяц назад

      A Muslim has an Islamic culture. The Arab culture doesn’t own the Islamic culture. You are silly and obviously has a hatred towards arabs. But if you are Muslim remember Islam is a culture. By the way even the gulf arabs have different ancestry. In the end, Islamic culture is Islamic culture it isn’t being Arab.

    • @TheBigSavvyBoss
      @TheBigSavvyBoss 23 дня назад

      ​​​@@Shook1917🤣🤣🤣 55% mixing rate?????
      Could you give me the reference where you got such number?
      I need a serious well recognized peer-reviewed study backing such claim.
      This is nonsense. Even the linguistics studies, the genetic analysis and anthropology and archeology extensive works deny all this.
      And on top of that you make this funny illogical leap where you claim that the Arabs are not to be restricted with the Gulf region!!! And you keep adding to it that the Levant and Cresent population is ALL of Arab origin, so and so to say that in old times they all came from the gulf!
      Can you cite a serious academic study that makes such conclusion???
      Seriously, if you lack the knowledge, at least have the decency of not spreading inaccuracies. That's the least you can do!

  • @Ppoim
    @Ppoim 28 дней назад

    Zenata imazighen
    Akbar imjahden
    Tarik ibn Zaid
    Maghrawaden
    Emiraat Nekor
    Ziriden(ziri ibn menad)
    Meriniden
    Wattasiden
    Jaish d'Ahl Al-Rif
    Abdelkarim khattabi
    Omar mohtar
    Mohamed amezian
    Abd al-Kader
    Barbary pirates
    Ibn khaldun
    Ibn battuta

  • @SURAH267
    @SURAH267 Месяц назад

    Greetings from the irelsnd, what makes me completely confused is
    Morocco people spoke a different language before Islam arrived, eg egyotain spoke coptic in Egypt, all Morocco Egyptian etc are North Africans, not Arab, so all Morocco, which islam came, arabic became dominant language, we too lost alot of the irish language in ireland
    But now it makeing a comeback
    Morocco are North Africains like Algerians Egyptian, NOT ARABS, they only spoek arabic
    Rember Morocco first
    All Morocco are indigenous to ye country, same in algerian, Egypt
    All individual countries who sppek Arabic and most practise islam

    • @aliidris6380
      @aliidris6380 Месяц назад

      Moroccans did not speak different languages .
      Language evolve which cause it to seem different ,,all tamazights stemed from the same mother language.

    • @TheSmoothkriminal
      @TheSmoothkriminal Месяц назад

      Hhhhh sir allah ye3tik del..do u call what u wrote english...hhhhh

    • @user-jt8vj1vm6y
      @user-jt8vj1vm6y Месяц назад

      because you think someone black mixed like this man is indigenous ?

  • @lindalakhdari1049
    @lindalakhdari1049 Месяц назад

    If you keep saying you are Muslim, you're not going to help Tamazight to be free under arabs colonization to promote Arabic. Because islam it self is against languages, if you forgot that.

    • @TheSmoothkriminal
      @TheSmoothkriminal Месяц назад

      Islam its against languages.hhhh whata donkey comment.

  • @ChefbyMistake
    @ChefbyMistake Месяц назад

    Anyone who is not white is not Amazigh, Berbers were white people who lived between NAfrica and EU mostly on Islands.

    • @annhilator55
      @annhilator55 Месяц назад +2

      This is not true at all. Berber is an exonym for one and two there's numerous different groups of Amazigh all across north and west africa, who speak various amazigh languages

    • @ChefbyMistake
      @ChefbyMistake Месяц назад

      @@annhilator55 Exonym YES but todays almost all Berbers are white people.

    • @youneselachkar
      @youneselachkar Месяц назад +2

      simply wrong. look at the tuareg people.

    • @ChefbyMistake
      @ChefbyMistake Месяц назад

      @@youneselachkar They aren’t Amazighs they are mix.

  • @Shook1917
    @Shook1917 Месяц назад

    Betrayal of the Palestinians by Moroccan government is disgusting. What a shock and embarrassing! 100,000Moroccan jews massacred and stole land from Palestinian.

    • @TheBigSavvyBoss
      @TheBigSavvyBoss 23 дня назад

      @@Shook1917 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Again little mind, give us a proof to back up your dumb claims???
      Morocco, although being the farthest country from Palestine, has done more to the cause than ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY.
      Morocco to this very day finances the Palestinian presence in Jerusalem. We have countries, like Algeria for instance, who have done NOTHING but barking and selling lies.
      It's your ignorance, in 2024 where we have all this knowledge vlat our fingertips, that is beyond disgusting!

  • @brahimsiali2602
    @brahimsiali2602 Месяц назад

    Amazigh is dielect spoken in North Africa our ancestor embrace Islam and learn Arabic and become Arabised our ancestors extended Islam to Europe. All amazigh people of north africa are muslims.

    • @lindalakhdari1049
      @lindalakhdari1049 Месяц назад

      Not all Amazigh are Muslims.
      Islam is invasion to Tamazgha to promote Arabic language on the name of religion, to take over the land of Imazighen.

    • @lindalakhdari1049
      @lindalakhdari1049 Месяц назад

      Tamazight is not a dialect, Tamazight is the language of knowledge and civilization. Because of the Arab's invasion, they deprived Amazigh people to use Tamazight by threatening them with religion to be Muslim by force. Their goal is to promote Arabic and to steal the land.