If the Kinzhal is not Hypersonic because it can't maneuver at hypersonic, then the F-35 is not 5th gen because it can't supercruise. There are over 100 MiG-31in storage, Russia operated 100ish upgraded (BM model) interceptors, the K modification is executed on stored cells, not withdrawn from active duty interceptor fleet. The Hypersonic speeds achieve 2 goals: - Indetectable to current Radar tech. - Reduces reaction time: let's say it has a range of 1000km in quasi ballistic trajectory so most of the flight the missile is guided by Inertial guidance (which we know can already be very accurate, for most area targets). in terminal phase (50km) it slows down to high supersonic speeds on a high altitude flight (25-30km) to get optical terrain matching and Sat guidance (at mach 4 that's 20-30 seconds for trajectory correction), and then still dive down on the target at a Mach 5+ speed. it greatly reduces Air Defence reaction time, Radar lock will be lost once again and the maneuvers will be able to avoid any missile launched in the 20-30 seconds "slow" flight phase.
A normal ballistic missile also flies hypersonic and they have been around for a long time . Either the hypersonic term means something new or you can drop it all together
That's the correct answer. Most analysis tend to disregard the fact that the missile can slow down and then accelerate again. Why is this so hard to understand?
@@JayzsMr a normal ballistic missile does not maneuver. a normal ballistic missile accelerates, goes up. when it's speed reaches 0 (gravity and air resistance) it goes down in a predictable trajectory. neither Iskander nor Kinzhal are ballistic. he said it clearly, quasi-ballistic. which means it can fly a flatter trajectory with capability of mid course steering. that's why Russian S-300 been taking down Tochkas but no Ukie S-300 took down an Iskander.
@@tunisiandom9318 but then they don't fly hypersonic. Hypersonic maneuvering and targeting is the problem and the two solutions are scram jet or glider vehicle . The Kinzhal is neither and not a true hypersonic missile
QUICKSINK, a naval version of 2000 lb JDAM designed for.. well quickly sinking a ship Here's onboard footage, its really insane how quick that is: ruclips.net/video/37qDHY9b6Lk/видео.html
@@b0bl00i its not the torpedo test you thinking about, that used an Old Oliver Perry frigate. Both end up in the same way (breaking the ship kell) so they look similar
American defination of of hypersonic missile is a missile that can fly faster the mach 5. Russian defination of of hypersonic missile is a missile that can fly faster the mach 5 and also can manuver in the atmosphere. Non of this definition has any condition about initial or terminal speed of the missile. So, this is hypersonic according to definition of both side. If a missile can reach its terminal phase then it's too late to intercept.
@@topiasr628 I know. I've been saying that this is unusually low-key and pragmatic for Russians employment of already available platforms. I wonder will we see air launched GMLRS/PrSM or even ATACMSs dropped from C-27Js/C-130s
It's not a "true" hypersonic in the sense that it incorporrates evasive maneuvers and scramjet technology, but being a very fast missile traveling 3500 m/s makes it extremely difficult to intercept with most Air Defense systems. Not impossible, especially with a straightline trajectory, but diffuclt nonetheless.
I'm sure the definition of what properties a missile must have to be a hypersonic missile will change over time, but the most important features are: Does it work ? Can it defeat air deference systems ? Can it destroy the target ? I suspect that these missile attacks will have to be coordinated with other types of missiles and dummy missiles in order to overwhelm an air defense system. Given how high value these AD systems are, the cost of launching 30 missiles to destroy the system is still probably worth it. ( especially if the AD area remains unprotected for several days )
It’s funny to read your pathetic comments guys….(((. " extremely difficult to intercept " (. Nope….Impossible to intercept would be correct….Or you can tell us wich ADS is capable to intercept Kinzal…?
Hi Sky, could you please make a video about the HESA Shahed-136 too? There is little info available about this drone on the web and most of them are totally wrong. I can be of help of course about this particular topic if you need any. Cheers and thanks for your great content.
US carriers have a lot of air defenses arround the strike group. The AEGIS combat system (and its missiles, mainly SM-3 and 6) on board of the ticos and arleigh burke are even more capable of intercepting ballistic missiles than patriot I'd think it would take a lot of work to deplete or decoy the air defense for a Kinzhal to get past a strike group worth of AEGIS-guided missiles
That would be interesting hitting a aircraft carrier battle group with a Kinzhal hypersonic missile that is nuclear loaded would be amazing news to see in the current era(ㆁωㆁ)
I didn't understand. You say that the rocket flies at supersonic speed. When launched from an aircraft, the rocket achieves a greater range and, accordingly, greater speed. But why do you end up saying that this is not a full-fledged hypersound?
In the video, I said that the missile accelerates to hypersonic speed, but it does not have an engine running the entire flight, which is why it quickly loses speed. It can hardly call a hypersonic missile that flies at such a speed only a small part of the route
Can't manoeuvre and lock on target in hypersonic speed . Ballistic missiles also fly hypersonic and have been around for a long time . The really new thing is a highly manoeuvrable hypersonic missile Which the Kinzhal is not
@@JayzsMr But the "Dagger" maneuvers at hypersonic speed. The meaning of a hypersonic missile is to overcome the enemy's air defense system at hypersonic speed. The dagger does it. The dagger maneuvers at hypersonic speeds and overcomes the air defense system. Therefore, I do not understand why you call this missile not hypersonic. The missile overcomes the active air defense zone at hypersonic speed.
How so? Very short, full of action, and over hyped? If yes, I am too. The thing is, my 2 inches is like this missile. Precise, accurate, and in very short action.
Such a Killjoy when it was shot down by a Patriot; as they were expecting it would be difficult to shoot down, but it wasn't. Millions of dollars developed all for an easy kill. So yeah...a killjoy.
It is quite an interesting weapon, however, as you said it has some drawbacks that may make it not as successful as some people think. But I think that an idea of air launched ballistic missile is quite interesting and definitely has some uses. I only wish it had bever been used in real combat, as with any weapon, but world is not always so pleasant
@@Casper1907 if you are referring to the strike on kiev I respectfully disagree the Ukrainian state *claimed* to have taken down 6 kinzhals And the Russian the Russians claimed they only fired 1 or 2 (honestly can't remember) And they somehow took out 5 launchers I don't believe either statement it's clear the Patriot battery was damaged otherwise the Ukrainian state would have shown pictures of a perfectly intact patriot in addition the American MOD itself claimed the Patriot sustained some damage (and *if* I remember correctly the American MOD claimed the sustained damage was minimal) As far as the Russians claims are concerned it would be literally impossible for 2 missile's to take down 5 separately placed launchers My verdict is that the Patriot took an unknown amount of damage yet it is unbelievably impressive considering the Ukrainians fired *over 30* defense missile's (I say defense missile's because there's no way for us to know if that entire barrage was patriot or a combination of multiple systems working together)
My understanding is that the Mig31 has the ability to guide the missile to the target including maneuvering it. The evidence that it hit and destroyed the patriot system in Kiev suggests that so far there is no defense against it. The Mig31 is the aircraft being used in pairs to destroy Ukraine aircraft without even entering Ukraine airspace with the first firing the missiles from high altitude and the second guiding it to the target since Mig-31s can share targeting data and control of missiles though they can also be controlled by the Dome radar system.
@@alexlo7708 no, don't worry, not one "Dagger" flew to the Patriot . no, don’t worry, not one “Dagger” flew to the Patriot, the Patriot stood at the Zhuliany airport - the osinters did geolocation and bought pictures from commercial satellites in the morning of that day, the positions of the Patriots were dug out there - but there were no craters or other traces from strike, most likely the Patriots changed positions after interceptions
Greetings from Ukraine . you have no idea what's going on here. During the takeoff of the MIG-31. An air raid alarm is announced - on the streets of the siren, SMS comes to the phones. Regardless, the MIG-31 fired a rocket or not, or it has a training flight. From the moment of takeoff to the arrival of the rocket, it takes 1-2 hours, depending on which part of Ukraine he fired at (these planes are on distant airfields so that nothing accidentally arrives at them - and they are constantly monitored from Ukraine) When the MiG-31 takes off, a set of measures takes place from air forces and air defense forces, for example, the transfer of aircraft to alternate airfields, including "airfields on the roads," I will not tell everything to the detriment of my country. So you can be calm. Daggers do not hit Ukrainian planes on the ground, those that are serviceable - there are those that rot for 20-30 years at airfields without engines, sometimes their RF and shows how successfully "destroyed"
I'm not really a tree hugger, but it sure would be better if we all spent money on making the world a better place rather than new ways to blow thing up. I'd like to think we left the world a better place for our kids, then some times it seems like things never change. 8(
This is not the first time I have encountered these errors. The practical ceiling of the MiG-31 is 21,000 m and the dynamic ceiling is 30,000 meters. And the payload of the MiG-31 is 5,000 kg. Therefore, it is incorrect to say that a 4,5-ton Kinzhal missile is launched from 15,000 meters.
From the outside we cannot say too much about Kinzhal; we can just wait, observe and evaluate it's effectiveness after the war. This is because in wars, development of countermeasures are somehow accelerated by the need. So, I will revise the video next year to see what's new and express my opinion.
It was tested in war conditions in Syria and the bunker that the narrator never mentioned in Ukraine was that not only did it destroy the ammo depot it pierced about 150 metres underground of a nuclear bunker that had high value targets of Ukrainian and NATO commanders that the west kept very quiet about. Russia would not waste the dagger on an ammunition warehouse when it can use other missiles. This missile has struck fear into all of them, especially because of its penetration depth of destroying a nuclear bunker. The narrator either didn't know or conveniently left that bit of info out.
@@johntaylor3298 Just look at the Chinese hegemony, Russia 🇷🇺 sold out its sovereignty signing the BRICS agreement. The clowns in the state Duma have sold their industries and land to Chinese entities. They even made the Russian duma illegally confiscate EU companies and factories inside Russia 🇷🇺 that then got transferred to China.
@@johntaylor3298 The narrator left it out because you just made all of that shit up. Like pray tell which “high value” Ukrainian and NATO commanders were killed considering not a single one has been reported missing or dead? Is this some sort of desperate cope for all the Russian commanders that were killed by HIMARS? Commanders that have actual names and faces and were acknowledged as dead by Russia as well.
So its not a true hypersonic missile cause you changed THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A HYPERSONIC MISSILE IS SINCE YOU CANT MAKE ANY HYPERSONIC missiles ..RIGHT?
As an "outside observer" I wouldn't be surprised about a dual profile missile system. One that is high supersonic/hypersonic in its first stage and has a reduced observability and maneuverable second, final stage.
If it's low and slow, it becomes easy to counter using existing systems -- like e.g. drones and regular cruise missiles are. Only hyper fast *while* manoeuvrable at the same can truly hope to beat modern AAA. By "existing", I naturally mean 30 years old systems like the Gepard or Patriot. Current day stuff is based on lasers. Not pointing lasers, missile destroying lasers.
I like the analysis that characterizes the Kinzhal as a weapon for special purposes. Actually, the name "Kinzhal " means "Dagger", i.e. this weapon was created namely for special military operations. The Kinzhal will probably never be used as a part of multiple rocket launcher or as a doomsday rocket (the Russians have another weapons for that). Allegedly the Kinzhal was applyed at the Kyiv airport to destroy a Patriot battery ~ a month ago. It was like a demonstration that Zelensky had no reasons to rely on an effective air defense system in the war with Putin.
It was fired at a Patriot battery but no Patriot systems were lost and sattellite images show that it simply missed by several hundred meters. Kinzhal simply isn't an effective long range weapon in the Russian arsenal because of the lack of intelligence as well as its poor accuracy and the need to launch it at extreme ranges to preserve the precious few launch platforms Russia has, which negates the advantage of speed by giving an enemy plenty of warning time. The fact that it can only be launched by Mig-31s basically means that whenever a Mig-31 is spotted you can just safely assume it's about to launch one since the plane is essentially obsolete in all other roles. This is why Russia has mainly been relying on Shahed-131 drones in order to try to overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses, though the issue of intelligence still persists.
@@hedgehog3180 I got the impression that there is no more point in talking about the Ukrainian air defense system at all. Strikes by Russian long- and short-range drones, cruise and ballistic missiles of the Kinzhal type, MLRS and glide bombs have long become part of the life of Ukrainians from Kharkov to Lvov. Moreover, the citizens of Ukraine themselves are not to blame for this; - Soviet systems were sold out before the war or lost during the last 2 years of open conflict with Russia, and foreign supplies are completely insufficient and do not include truly modern types of weapons. Patriot, by the way, is not one of them. This system discredited itself in 2019 and then in 2022 during missile attacks on Saudi Aramco. Yet, recently it showed himself well when a transport plane carrying Ukrainian soldiers returning from captivity was shot down in the sky over Belgorod. Here, the Patriot worked flawlessly. ((
I feel it a bit biased (in a pejorative way) to consider the kinzal as well as the iskander not hypersonic. There seems no objective reason for it, if "above mach 5" and "maneuverability" are the criteria. Then anything that matches those conditions, should be considered hypersonic. That "it can't maintain it's highest speed for long" has little relevance; nowhere is it' stated that it needs to have mach 5+ the whole way of it's trajectory. In fact, the author himself acknowledges that *every* hypersonic missile - from any country - needs to slow down to zoom in on the target and hit it. So by that standard, when applied consistently, no hypersonic missile exists in the world, and what's more: it *can never* exist, because ALL those hypersonic missiles slow down below mach 5 at some point in their trajectory. I'm only applying logic here. That's the consequence of arguing that a missile that doesn't keep it's mach 5+ speed up shouldn't be considered a hypersonic missile. It seems to me that the author wants his cake and eat it as well. He acknowledges no missile can maintain 5+ speeds, yet says those that fall below that speed on any given time on any part on it's trajectory, can't be considered hypersonic. Shouldn't that rather be reversed? Isn't it that any maneuverable missile that CAN reach above mach 5+ speeds, shpould be considered hypersonic? Being able to reach that speed is on of the main charateristics of hypersonic flight, after all, not that it needs to be hypersonic from begin to end. Because taken that to an extreme, than no airplane would ever become hypersonic neither, since they would fly a large part of their flightpatch below mach 5+ as well. Thsi makes no sense. IT's the ability to reach that speed that counts, not how long to maintain it. So... He arbitrarily decides they're not hypersonic because they don't maintain a mach 5+ speed long enough, but fails to give any indication what is "long enough" and what objective criteria he uses to determine a time that is long enough. Let alone he gives any arguments why maintaining that speed should be considered necessary to be considered hypersonic in the first place. Is 30% of its flight-path at mach 5+ "long enough"? 40% ? 51%? 66%? He does not say, nor gives arguments why one given percentage should count as enough, and another not. He doesn't even explicitly say how long of the time it flies does an iskander or kinzal is actually above mach 5+, and how much longer it would need in hios book to be considered hypersonic. Since the start and the end of ANY hypersonic missile won't be hypersonic, using the same train of thought and reasoning as the author, one could, thus, argue no missile can ever be called hypersonic. Using such convoluted criteria is not only highly arbitrary, but also quite nonsensical.
Didn't the patriot easily acquire and knock them out of the sky this week? Or was that a different missile system it slapped? If it was, 1970s us tech is still just toying with apparently the best Russia can throw at it. The javelin showed that already.
The Patriot defending Kyiv is one of the most modern versions of the system. So we can’t say that this is the 1970s tech. The details of the interception are unknown. Both sides of the conflict make unrealistic statements
It's not impossible to intercept it, it's just that the radar has to be pointing in the same direction at the correct time to give the system the best possible chance at intercepting it. Millenium7 has a great videos explaining the problem with intercepting hypersonic missiles.
@@flyerkiller5073 they are known and they didn't intercept any. 2 launchers were destroyed and 1 system was damaged. Now the US isn't allowing Ukraine to use patriots since this is the first time in history that not one but two patriot launchers got destroyed as a result of missile strike and 1 system was damaged so they're investigating and all patriots are shut down until the investigation goes on. If you don't believe it then just look at the Saudi oilfields protected by multiple patriot systems getting decimated with Yemeni drones and you think now suddenly they can shoot down mach10 cruise missiles? If you believe that I just can be sorry for you
@@cmanlovespancakes okay now first check how a huge oilfield burns down protected by famous patriots and when the US claims that 1 was "damaged" it means its destroyed and since 2 was destroyed by direct missile hit they're pulling out. Its even on the news ROFL
I don’t know what to think about this rocket, because I don’t know anything about it. I can only judge by the video from Ukraine. The Ukrainians filmed the flight of the Kinzhal. I had a question, how do they know that this missile is a Kinzhal? Watching the video removed all the questions. The rocket flew at a foreseeable height, appeared from behind the right horizon and disappeared behind the left horizon in a matter of seconds. It was impressive speed. The rocket itself looked like an oblong ball of light. It became curious what speed it is, at least approximately. I watched various videos with other Russian missiles flying over Ukraine. The speed of the Kinzhal surpassed dozens of times. After the video of the Kinzhal flying, other missiles seemed to fly at the speed of a moving car. They also say that the Patriot in Kyiv was destroyed by the Kinzhal. I don’t know if it was Kinzhal, but I think that any other Patriot missile would have been shot down. Here, the Patriot fired 32 missiles towards the Kinzhal flying towards them, and as a result, Kyiv lost one Patriot system. Be that as it may, the Kinzhal is an effective weapon and, as far as I understand, it is very variable.
You just made a video with the Jane's data about both missiles and it is an already known fact that they don't export the Kinzhal. Therefore Jane's hypothetical data are not accurate.
Officially 'Hypersonic' or not, the Kinzhal has been doing amazing work in the SMO. The recent hits on warehouses full of NAFO junk and mercs, C&C complexes, and energy concerns have done much to slow the AFU Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter/Spring Counteroffensive to a dribble. And OH! I would love to catch a ride in one of those MiG-31K's. All the way up as far as it could go to edge of space. Those machines are amazing! Thanks for bringing this video out. You have great scenes in this video of the machines. Спасибо!
Judging my the recent events in Ukraine, i never understood how they claim to shot down multiple Kinzhals but are having a hell of a time with dealing with basic Iskander strikes , thats like someone being able to do algebra but not solve simple multiplication
Yeah, and every may the 9th I saw a super duper army parading and they said all the vehicles presented where so much better than any other Western alternative. In the meanwhile the russian arms industry is losing clients like Mr. Beast loses credibility. Tldr: The patriot is better than the kinzhal.
Especially in current times it’s sad that these weapons ever have to be developed. And I wish politicians would wake up and let everyone live in peace.
AFIK Russia has MIG-31's in reserve that can be upgraded to replace the ones converted for Kinzhal. They should also find a way to use their glide bombs with MIG-31
Well, the video seems to be quite old. Now that the Kinzhal has penetrated the most modern NATO air defense umbrellas in Kiev and other places in Ukraine without any problems it seems that Kinzhal is going into mass production. There are still hundreds of Mig31 mothballed after the collapse of 1990 and their frames have only a small fraction of airtime lifetime spent. So, Mig31 is supplied in abundance from the stocks and upgraded to newest electronics. 🤔
The Kinzhal hasn't penetrated the most modern NATO air defense umbrella in Kyiv. Every single Kinzhal launched at Kyiv since Patriot systems have been deployed has been shot down. Kinzhal is 0-11 against modern NATO air defenses.
@@CaptainHightop Sure, the Patriot systems just self destructed as can now be seen on satellite photos. Last night, some dirt cheap Geraniums finished off what was left on the airfield. 😅
@@DilbertMuc You are really hitting that copium hard, Orc. The Patriot systems in Ukraine are still fully intact and operational. There is video of the Kyiv battery shooting down more of the Orc terror missiles targeted at civilians from just yesterday. I guess you are huffing that Orc propaganda hard huh? Just like how Russia supposedly destroyed every HIMARS system in Ukraine, yet not a single one has been lost. Or how Russia claims to have destoyed western MBTs before they ever even arrived in Ukraine. You Orcs are pathetic. 15 months into your 3 day "special operation" and you have over 200k dead orcs, over 3000 lost tanks, 7000 lost APCs and you still can't even capture the Donbas!
Patriot is a modern and effective air defense system, but I would not say that it is the best that NATO has. Hundreds of MiG-31s are indeed in storage, but their components are in short supply - they cannot simply be repaired and returned to service.
@@SkyshipsEng No need to. In another documentary they showed how the older bombers TU-160 and Mig-31 are stripped to the naked metal skeleton and are rebuild with brand new electronics, cables and everything else. Even engines are switched to modernized ones. Russia keeps all their old stuff, just in case of need. In the West, old stuff is actively destroyed or sold off to third world countries, just to get rid off it and buy new toys, a proven strategy of the MIC in Washington.
I really love and enjoy the effort of the West supporters trying to make all Russians weapons as bad as it's possible. Now kinzhal is not hypersonic missiles? Does maybe Avangard is hypersonic or those are aslo not, does zircon is or not? Well, let's be honest, americnas struggle to produce anything similar. Russians tanks also suck hard, but hey, they withstand few hits by a javelin and usually the crew survives, while leopard is being pierced by a $20k drone. Enough said? So, we understand. Everything Russian' sucks like by default, while everything americnas is perfectly good. Yes, perfectly good but when on the battlefield refusing to be as good as presented before.
@@SkyshipsEng Thanks for replying! And personally, I think SU-34 is the best for the role. Using any of the Tupolev's seems too risky. Great Channel, I just subscribed.
I don't think the Flankers will achieve the optimum range for the Kinzhal. I've heard reports that it's launched at 65000ft at M2.5 by the mig31. A flanker cannot achieve that speed and altitude. While it's also can be launched by Backfires, it's low speed of about mach 1.6 fully loaded means that Russia is currently only launching them using the mig31 with the Tu22 launching the kh22s.
At 11:46 he mentions that the Kinzhal strikes speeds of Mach 10 or more, after explaining that hypersonic needs to be going at above Mach 6. As to how something going 4 Machs more than the hypersonic boundary is NOT YET Hypersonic 😮😮😮😮😮! It's easy to sense that the narrator is Western and the weapon is Russian, without asking.
@@constellation-sj8xn who gives a fuck if it slows down a bit if it hits speeds of Mach 10 or more and can maneuver so cant be intercepted? You westerners are the biggest bullshiters.
Hi thank you for the very interesting video I read somewhere that at some point of its trajectory an hypersonic missile becomes invisible to radars because of its speed There was also a technical explanation about plasma that i did not understand I wonder if this is true and when it occurs I guess that in the last part instead when the missile slows down it should be visible to radars There is something very fascinating about stealthiness to radars To be able to hit without being seen is something magic And this would provide an exceptional advantage Of course
Thank you for clearly explaining the difference between a ballistic missile and a hypersonic missile. I have to keep explaining this to people; now I can just show them your video.
17:55 - one would think, that uprgrade of guidance kit on already existing missiles with equal speed, greater range and twice the warhead would be more reasonable course of action.
IMHO the Kinzhal is a modern advance version of Iskander missile, but as some says its not a true hypersonic in its nature is still in hypersonic in a sense that it's difficult to intercept because at a high speed of beyond mach 6 in its atmospheric trajectory path long range radar can't locate it.... The tip of the missile is being envelope by plasma field, when its nearing to its target it'll slow abit down but still near to mach 5 when descending and the enemy radars will be still having hard time to calculate its trajectory of target.... The radar or enemy cant only know it if it hits it's target and see the destruction.... US already admitted its hard to intercept and the Kinzhal hypersonic ghost of Kyiv by Klitschko is just a propaganda so the Ukrainian force would not loose hope to holding up themselves fighting for Ukraine (≧▽≦)
there is proof that a Kinzhal was intercepted, the wreck was found and identified, the US also confirmed it. The fact that Russia lauched 6 Kinzhal at one patriot and it wasn't destroyed is another evidence that many Kinzhal were intercepted.
So if the missile takes all the needed data from the "AVACS" system (donT know how its called in Russia), and MiG is just a carrier without radar, shoot down the AVACS and problem seem to be sorted. Yeah, I know that the flying radar can be miles away from the attacked area, but isnt that Russian term of "lost missile"?
The Russians have high-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters. High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas. High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface-based search radars at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. Completely, neutralizing the USA's use of AWACS for their detection.
Probably not, RIM-161 (SM-3) has an inception speed of Mach 13.2. Fleet protection is built to be extremely effective. As they're expected to be targeted by strategic missles, such as ICBM.
@@how2preventnextplandemic76 What I'm going at, is hypersonic objects such as Kinzhal is slow by comparison. When you consider a destroyer picket can hit objects in orbit. It's basically overkill for most threats coming from high altitude.
Sinking a carrier would require first finding it and that is difficult when Russia lacks any real reconnisance and intelligence assets. The most up to date information Russia would have is by spy satellite but they only have enough spy satellites to get images of an area every two days on average and carriers can obviously move very far in two days and are some of the fastest ships out there. This is further complicated by the fact that the US has several options for shooting down LEO satellites, so in all likelyhood in a war scenario the US would just shoot down any satellite before it passed over a carrier group. Then there's also the issue of launching the missile, the downside of it being air launched is that the platform can easily be shot down and these Mig-31s would effectively be blind sitting ducks since they have no radar, of course they'd have escorts but there are no Russian aircraft that stand a chance in an engagement with F-35s.
Such a theory exists. But, I think they would not do such a scheme. It is very difficult to implement and reduces the parameters of the warhead. In addition, there is evidence that the missile falls on the target entirely
@@SkyshipsEng I agree with you . The only good thing about that theory is that the schematic predates the war . The evidence is strong or look like a M117 with recent made up schematics fo fit them ? Honest question , i'm just not in the business to be fooled by anyone :)
I heard the underground bunker in the first clip was actually design to store soviet nukes and withstand the blast of a nuke. If true thats some scary underground bunker busting power for something strictly relying on kinetic power
32 patriot missiles used to destroy 2 kinzhal missiles, one launcher destroyed and another badly damaged needing to go back to Poland, over a billion dollars of damage to stop 2 missiles, as far as im aware, this is the only time one has been intercepted, otherwise the second launcher would also have been destroyed.
I appreciate you making this video from a purely technological/capability/military point of view, but I have trouble staying that dispassionate considering that I met refugees from Ukraine.
The entire world watched the video of the Patriot's destruction near Kiev despite the fact that the Patriot fired no less than 32 of its missiles in vain in less than 3 minutes of video. A few days later, another patriot system protecting an air base in the Ukraine was destroyed. According to Putin, 5 patriot systems were destroyed. So it must be recognized that such hypersonic weapons are extremely fearsome and effective weapons. I still remember the first use of Khinzale in Ukraine, it was on March 13, 2022 against the Nato base in Yavoriv in Ukraine which is about 30 km from the Polish borders. 8 to 10 missiles had destroyed the base and eliminated about 400 NATO mercenaries. NATO's scare was so enormous that both Biden and Stoltenberg immediately came out to say that NATO does not intend to directly involve itself in the conflict. Those missiles no one saw coming, nothing even though they had traveled a long distance from the black sea. These hypersonic weapons are terrifying, the fact that the patriot can't do anything is a more than valid reason to fear them. Experts have commented that indeed the patriot is not suitable against hypersonic weapons but is designed against ballistic missiles at most supersonic. No one can defend himself with just a sword against bullets.
ic, skyships took a look at the rocket, recognized the iskanker shape, and lazily concluded it must be same old plus mig31-launching, i.e., an iskanker with correspondingly altered+extended trajectory. Lazy as skyships is, he did not even do the little google research needed to find the published research on how to i/o to the interior of plasma-shrouded hypersonic bodies and arrogantly concluded that such i/o is not possible, missing out on the most likely scenario which sees kinzhal being blind but with trajectory randomly altered and then brought back on target by external guidance that geolocates the rocket in real time based on its radio and IR emissions, a scenario which would allow kinzhal to hit with full 12-mach kinetic energy and only requires a materials-science breakthrough to give it protracted resistance to friction heat.
The first Kinzhal they send on the patriot was shot down, there is evidence. After that 6 Kinzhal were fired to the Patriot and weren't able to destroy it, it's fair to assume they were all intercepted even if we don't have the proof at this time (It will come soon enough).
Iskander meaning Alexander the mecodonian who with his army reached from mecodonia to India and was defeated by the Indian elite forces that shook the living day light out if the mecodonian army and the mosquito had the better of him he didn't take his malaria tablets his body was taken to Egypt where Egypt was the high schools of learning like modern day Stanford universities education is highly appreciated by the world for physics astrophysics and sciences and mathematics is educated Indian mathematics is educated there using the zero in calculations out of this arrived the devolpment of computers for human progress, production, industrial revolution and knowage for space exploration that is the greatest achievement India has given to the world thank god for king Harsha of India when China and India shared knowledge of mathamatics , sciences and art flourished , astronomy, religion, spirituality , temple building, nuclear power for rockets was already devolpment in progress but Germany took the formula books from India and the swastika was used by the Germans in gaining engineering knowledge and Adolf Hitler tried taking over the world but failed but Germany healed and the devolpment didn't ceased as Germany products are highly appreciated by the world through out the Islamic world ,Japan, Italy also learned the art of engineering , Baghdad Iraq had engineering knowledge that's why Saddam Hussein's a former puppet of Rome was deafeted by Norman the American German general and he was ordered by the king of Saudi Arabia to hang Saddam Hussein for invading the kingdom also Kuwait which was part of Iraq created by the Roman imprilist powers and no weapons of mass dustruction was found after the gulf war planned by the coalition forces where American forces lead the way to Baghdad as tikrik the home town of Saddam Hussein his own country man betrayed him and he was hanged for commiting genocide of the Shia Muslims fighting the Sunni Shia war for a decade planned by the Roman imprilist powers for weapons sells in the conflicts where the bankers made a lot of money by charging the governments interest on the loans what a world we live in and now Corona virus devolpment created by the Chinese American lab. technicians for the enriching the drug companies which caused further genocide through the god's earth who knows what next these beasts of the earth are upto 👮👮👮👮🇺🇬👩👩👦👦🤑👹👹👹🕋😂😂😏😠😠🤕😷🤧😈👿👽🎃☠️🤡💀👀👶👨👨👧👨👩👧👧👨👩👦🤱RIP. those of passed away through genocide, oppression,wars ,corona virus ,aids,std,under Roman imperial powers.
what mean hypersonic? more then MACH5 and is not related to seconds into hypersonic range so everything can fly 1 sec at MACH5.0 is called hypersonic .. so simple
Bruh it's all about ghost of Kyiv fantasy story by Klitschko and Zelensky to boost morale of it's Ukrainian army😹😹😹 They can't even provide a reliable source of evidence to show a real wreckage of Kinzhal
I realise the Mig-31 has high performance, but I would have thought it was needed (especially these days) in it’s original role? It’s well known that Mig-31 had played a major role in keeping the Ukrainian Airforce limited in use/effectiveness. Could not Su-34 handle Kinzhal Sky?
In fact, the Su-34 seems like a logical carrier for this missiles, but it is mute, not yet said. Apparently, now the missile is being adapted for the Tu-22M
Well reports today that Su-34 was used for a Kinzal launch for the first time… Happy the Defence Ministry heard me! :) I honestly think those Mig-31K airframes will be needed to support the rest of the 31 fleet, so this is a good move.
If the Kinzhal is not Hypersonic because it can't maneuver at hypersonic, then the F-35 is not 5th gen because it can't supercruise.
There are over 100 MiG-31in storage, Russia operated 100ish upgraded (BM model) interceptors, the K modification is executed on stored cells, not withdrawn from active duty interceptor fleet.
The Hypersonic speeds achieve 2 goals:
- Indetectable to current Radar tech.
- Reduces reaction time: let's say it has a range of 1000km in quasi ballistic trajectory so most of the flight the missile is guided by Inertial guidance (which we know can already be very accurate, for most area targets). in terminal phase (50km) it slows down to high supersonic speeds on a high altitude flight (25-30km) to get optical terrain matching and Sat guidance (at mach 4 that's 20-30 seconds for trajectory correction), and then still dive down on the target at a Mach 5+ speed. it greatly reduces Air Defence reaction time, Radar lock will be lost once again and the maneuvers will be able to avoid any missile launched in the 20-30 seconds "slow" flight phase.
A normal ballistic missile also flies hypersonic and they have been around for a long time .
Either the hypersonic term means something new or you can drop it all together
That's the correct answer. Most analysis tend to disregard the fact that the missile can slow down and then accelerate again. Why is this so hard to understand?
Thank you.
@@JayzsMr a normal ballistic missile does not maneuver. a normal ballistic missile accelerates, goes up. when it's speed reaches 0 (gravity and air resistance) it goes down in a predictable trajectory.
neither Iskander nor Kinzhal are ballistic. he said it clearly, quasi-ballistic. which means it can fly a flatter trajectory with capability of mid course steering.
that's why Russian S-300 been taking down Tochkas but no Ukie S-300 took down an Iskander.
@@tunisiandom9318 but then they don't fly hypersonic.
Hypersonic maneuvering and targeting is the problem and the two solutions are scram jet or glider vehicle . The Kinzhal is neither and not a true hypersonic missile
12:35 I don't know what kind of ordnance hit that ship, but watching the ship nearly jump out of the water was very impressive!
QUICKSINK, a naval version of 2000 lb JDAM designed for.. well quickly sinking a ship
Here's onboard footage, its really insane how quick that is:
ruclips.net/video/37qDHY9b6Lk/видео.html
US Navy Quicksink 2000lbs JDAM, modified with a new seeker and possibly new fuze and guidance logic.
Torpedo Mk48. From Navy Sinkex
@@b0bl00i Not a Torpedo, the bomb is visible, coming in from the top left.
@@b0bl00i its not the torpedo test you thinking about, that used an Old Oliver Perry frigate.
Both end up in the same way (breaking the ship kell) so they look similar
Great content as usual sky, very well explained.
Best explanation available anywhere.
American defination of of hypersonic missile is a missile that can fly faster the mach 5.
Russian defination of of hypersonic missile is a missile that can fly faster the mach 5 and also can manuver in the atmosphere.
Non of this definition has any condition about initial or terminal speed of the missile. So, this is hypersonic according to definition of both side. If a missile can reach its terminal phase then it's too late to intercept.
@@ASS_ault that's a lie
Your videos are very good!
cheap putin's propaganda
@@impaugjuldivmaxthat didn't age well
Kinzhal has much greater capability against hardened underground bunkers than other types like cruise missiles.
Kindzal - air launched Iskander - INF compliant Oka.
It's not a bad idea really.
Make a missile that can reach the maximum allowed, strap it to a plane, and let the plane get it within the window
@@topiasr628 indeed
Well said 😺👍
@@topiasr628 I know. I've been saying that this is unusually low-key and pragmatic for Russians employment of already available platforms. I wonder will we see air launched GMLRS/PrSM or even ATACMSs dropped from C-27Js/C-130s
It's not a "true" hypersonic in the sense that it incorporrates evasive maneuvers and scramjet technology, but being a very fast missile traveling 3500 m/s makes it extremely difficult to intercept with most Air Defense systems. Not impossible, especially with a straightline trajectory, but diffuclt nonetheless.
True story
I'm sure the definition of what properties a missile must have to be a hypersonic missile will change over time, but the most important features are: Does it work ? Can it defeat air deference systems ? Can it destroy the target ? I suspect that these missile attacks will have to be coordinated with other types of missiles and dummy missiles in order to overwhelm an air defense system. Given how high value these AD systems are, the cost of launching 30 missiles to destroy the system is still probably worth it. ( especially if the AD area remains unprotected for several days )
It’s funny to read your pathetic comments guys….(((. " extremely difficult to intercept " (. Nope….Impossible to intercept would be correct….Or you can tell us wich ADS is capable to intercept Kinzal…?
@@dudedude4034 the Patriot has shot down many Russian fascist Kinzel "terrorist" weapons.
You are so ignorant as F,,, hypersonic it is already in use by Russia while china still in test mode and 🇺🇸 fail to perfect the technology
Well done ! Top shelf debrief .
The updated Foxbat in black looks so siiick.
Fantastic video - thanks
Hi Sky, could you please make a video about the HESA Shahed-136 too? There is little info available about this drone on the web and most of them are totally wrong. I can be of help of course about this particular topic if you need any. Cheers and thanks for your great content.
The effect of the US losing a Carrier would be one of great interest to watch. I think with enough of these area denial is a serious possibility.
Only if you're hoping to see armageddon.
@@patrickweaver1105 great point!....it wouldn't be interesting to watch are Carrier sink.
US carriers have a lot of air defenses arround the strike group. The AEGIS combat system (and its missiles, mainly SM-3 and 6) on board of the ticos and arleigh burke are even more capable of intercepting ballistic missiles than patriot
I'd think it would take a lot of work to deplete or decoy the air defense for a Kinzhal to get past a strike group worth of AEGIS-guided missiles
That would be interesting hitting a aircraft carrier battle group with a Kinzhal hypersonic missile that is nuclear loaded would be amazing news to see in the current era(ㆁωㆁ)
@@umu8934 Again only if you really want to die in a nuclear war.
M8 you better close the comments, otherwise there will be a lot of idiots from both sides
Oh, you had to see the comments on the Russian channel
@@SkyshipsEng Привыкай) Хотя, если ты вырос в России то знаешь какая у нас публика)
ukraine claim that 100 of 45 kinzhal`s were intercepted, but dead nato commanders not agree with this claim.
I want to inhale what you’ve inhaled
😂 what a idiot
And you guys claim russia destroyed all patriot systems only to lose aircraft to them the next week.
Good explaination. More than just a mini documentary
13:36 "experts from social media and RUclips".
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Is he in hell now
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I didn't understand. You say that the rocket flies at supersonic speed. When launched from an aircraft, the rocket achieves a greater range and, accordingly, greater speed. But why do you end up saying that this is not a full-fledged hypersound?
In the video, I said that the missile accelerates to hypersonic speed, but it does not have an engine running the entire flight, which is why it quickly loses speed. It can hardly call a hypersonic missile that flies at such a speed only a small part of the route
Can't manoeuvre and lock on target in hypersonic speed .
Ballistic missiles also fly hypersonic and have been around for a long time .
The really new thing is a highly manoeuvrable hypersonic missile Which the Kinzhal is not
@@JayzsMr But the "Dagger" maneuvers at hypersonic speed. The meaning of a hypersonic missile is to overcome the enemy's air defense system at hypersonic speed. The dagger does it. The dagger maneuvers at hypersonic speeds and overcomes the air defense system. Therefore, I do not understand why you call this missile not hypersonic. The missile overcomes the active air defense zone at hypersonic speed.
@@xalekcey no it does not , watch the video
@@JayzsMr The video says that the rocket is maneuvering.
SKY congratulations on how much your english has improved.
My wife says im hypersonic also 😮
Well at least it's you, good thing your wife doesn't have a hypersonic mouth or a hypersonic slap. 😂
:-)) yyyeeeh it depends on at which stage of the "fligh" you are supposed to be hypersonic ? :-D
Your wife says the Same about me...
How so? Very short, full of action, and over hyped? If yes, I am too. The thing is, my 2 inches is like this missile. Precise, accurate, and in very short action.
Russia missile strikes yesterday. 25% where hypersonic. Ukraine targets 400 miles away in less than 3.5 minutes
Killjoy is an incredibly apt name for this missile; given what it does to NATO solutions to difficult problems.
Good name. I like it)
Killjoy was here
Such a Killjoy when it was shot down by a Patriot; as they were expecting it would be difficult to shoot down, but it wasn't. Millions of dollars developed all for an easy kill. So yeah...a killjoy.
@@James-May Haha how much did the CIA pay you to spread shit?
@@James-May lmao, sure thing buddy.
@3:24 "1.6Km/hour"
I mean, an electron in a metal wire is only a few meters per hour, so 1.6km/hr is still impressive.
km/sec. My bad
"Km" means Kelvin * meter.
Case matter
@@RustedCroaker does Kelvin * meter have any physical meaning at all
@@ylstorage7085 In thermal conductivity. But usually it written m*K.
W/(m*K) for example
Thanks, I was about to point it out myself, but there's no point since creator of the video acknowledged the goof up.
It is quite an interesting weapon, however, as you said it has some drawbacks that may make it not as successful as some people think. But I think that an idea of air launched ballistic missile is quite interesting and definitely has some uses. I only wish it had bever been used in real combat, as with any weapon, but world is not always so pleasant
It was, in Ukraine and they took it down. So ,it is not so unstoppable.
@@Casper1907 if you are referring to the strike on kiev I respectfully disagree the Ukrainian state *claimed* to have taken down 6 kinzhals
And the Russian the Russians claimed they only fired 1 or 2 (honestly can't remember)
And they somehow took out 5 launchers
I don't believe either statement it's clear the Patriot battery was damaged otherwise the Ukrainian state would have shown pictures of a perfectly intact patriot in addition the American MOD itself claimed the Patriot sustained some damage
(and *if* I remember correctly the American MOD claimed the sustained damage was minimal)
As far as the Russians claims are concerned it would be literally impossible for 2 missile's to take down 5 separately placed launchers
My verdict is that the Patriot took an unknown amount of damage yet it is unbelievably impressive considering the Ukrainians fired *over 30* defense missile's (I say defense missile's because there's no way for us to know if that entire barrage was patriot or a combination of multiple systems working together)
@@josephboustany4852 also you can see the "downed" Kinzhals pics from Ukrainians, it does NOT look like a Kinzhal
My understanding is that the Mig31 has the ability to guide the missile to the target including maneuvering it. The evidence that it hit and destroyed the patriot system in Kiev suggests that so far there is no defense against it. The Mig31 is the aircraft being used in pairs to destroy Ukraine aircraft without even entering Ukraine airspace with the first firing the missiles from high altitude and the second guiding it to the target since Mig-31s can share targeting data and control of missiles though they can also be controlled by the Dome radar system.
I wonder hadn't the patriot seen the missile before being hit.
mig 31 is manufacture in 1980 and they tall to us is nothink now...!
@@alexlo7708 no, don't worry, not one "Dagger" flew to the Patriot . no, don’t worry, not one “Dagger” flew to the Patriot, the Patriot stood at the Zhuliany airport - the osinters did geolocation and bought pictures from commercial satellites in the morning of that day, the positions of the Patriots were dug out there - but there were no craters or other traces from strike, most likely the Patriots changed positions after interceptions
Greetings from Ukraine . you have no idea what's going on here. During the takeoff of the MIG-31. An air raid alarm is announced - on the streets of the siren, SMS comes to the phones. Regardless, the MIG-31 fired a rocket or not, or it has a training flight. From the moment of takeoff to the arrival of the rocket, it takes 1-2 hours, depending on which part of Ukraine he fired at (these planes are on distant airfields so that nothing accidentally arrives at them - and they are constantly monitored from Ukraine) When the MiG-31 takes off, a set of measures takes place from air forces and air defense forces, for example, the transfer of aircraft to alternate airfields, including "airfields on the roads," I will not tell everything to the detriment of my country. So you can be calm. Daggers do not hit Ukrainian planes on the ground, those that are serviceable - there are those that rot for 20-30 years at airfields without engines, sometimes their RF and shows how successfully "destroyed"
ruclips.net/video/9gklH095o9s/видео.html
evidence of the destroying of the Patriot.
He fired all his missiles, but never shot down the Kinzhal.
I'm not really a tree hugger, but it sure would be better if we all spent money on making the world a better place rather than new ways to blow thing up. I'd like to think we left the world a better place for our kids, then some times it seems like things never change. 8(
Have you ever disagreed with someone on an issue and they just wouldn't let it go?
That’s mankind for you destroyers of life.
But blowing things up is more fun than planting trees)
Best explanation available anywhere.
this is an interesting strategy.
13:25
Yes, simply yes.
This is not the first time I have encountered these errors. The practical ceiling of the MiG-31 is 21,000 m and the dynamic ceiling is 30,000 meters. And the payload of the MiG-31 is 5,000 kg. Therefore, it is incorrect to say that a 4,5-ton Kinzhal missile is launched from 15,000 meters.
With load equipped , the max alt was dropped.
@@alexlo7708 , perhaps but not twice from 30000 to 14500 m and the weight of the rocket is 4000 - 4500 kg with a maximum aircraft load of 5000 kg.
From the outside we cannot say too much about Kinzhal; we can just wait, observe and evaluate it's effectiveness after the war. This is because in wars, development of countermeasures are somehow accelerated by the need. So, I will revise the video next year to see what's new and express my opinion.
It was tested in war conditions in Syria and the bunker that the narrator never mentioned in Ukraine was that not only did it destroy the ammo depot it pierced about 150 metres underground of a nuclear bunker that had high value targets of Ukrainian and NATO commanders that the west kept very quiet about. Russia would not waste the dagger on an ammunition warehouse when it can use other missiles. This missile has struck fear into all of them, especially because of its penetration depth of destroying a nuclear bunker. The narrator either didn't know or conveniently left that bit of info out.
dont warry next year you will no express nothing.
@@johntaylor3298 Just look at the Chinese hegemony, Russia 🇷🇺 sold out its sovereignty signing the BRICS agreement.
The clowns in the state Duma have sold their industries and land to Chinese entities. They even made the Russian duma illegally confiscate EU companies and factories inside Russia 🇷🇺 that then got transferred to China.
@@johntaylor3298 The narrator left it out because you just made all of that shit up. Like pray tell which “high value” Ukrainian and NATO commanders were killed considering not a single one has been reported missing or dead? Is this some sort of desperate cope for all the Russian commanders that were killed by HIMARS? Commanders that have actual names and faces and were acknowledged as dead by Russia as well.
So its not a true hypersonic missile cause you changed THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A HYPERSONIC MISSILE IS SINCE YOU CANT MAKE ANY HYPERSONIC missiles ..RIGHT?
As an "outside observer" I wouldn't be surprised about a dual profile missile system. One that is high supersonic/hypersonic in its first stage and has a reduced observability and maneuverable second, final stage.
If it's low and slow, it becomes easy to counter using existing systems -- like e.g. drones and regular cruise missiles are. Only hyper fast *while* manoeuvrable at the same can truly hope to beat modern AAA.
By "existing", I naturally mean 30 years old systems like the Gepard or Patriot. Current day stuff is based on lasers. Not pointing lasers, missile destroying lasers.
The KH-47 is really a bunker buster or nuke delivery device. Forget hitting a small target.
I like the analysis that characterizes the Kinzhal as a weapon for special purposes. Actually, the name "Kinzhal " means "Dagger", i.e. this weapon was created namely for special military operations. The Kinzhal will probably never be used as a part of multiple rocket launcher or as a doomsday rocket (the Russians have another weapons for that). Allegedly the Kinzhal was applyed at the Kyiv airport to destroy a Patriot battery ~ a month ago. It was like a demonstration that Zelensky had no reasons to rely on an effective air defense system in the war with Putin.
Патриот, просто является патриотом России ❤Установка старая, хуже чем С 300 🤷Новые патриоты на Украину не поставляли.
😂 Kinzhal is worthless, it's an unguided ballistic missile. Its only use is hitting mountains and civilians
It was fired at a Patriot battery but no Patriot systems were lost and sattellite images show that it simply missed by several hundred meters. Kinzhal simply isn't an effective long range weapon in the Russian arsenal because of the lack of intelligence as well as its poor accuracy and the need to launch it at extreme ranges to preserve the precious few launch platforms Russia has, which negates the advantage of speed by giving an enemy plenty of warning time. The fact that it can only be launched by Mig-31s basically means that whenever a Mig-31 is spotted you can just safely assume it's about to launch one since the plane is essentially obsolete in all other roles. This is why Russia has mainly been relying on Shahed-131 drones in order to try to overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses, though the issue of intelligence still persists.
@@hedgehog3180 I got the impression that there is no more point in talking about the Ukrainian air defense system at all. Strikes by Russian long- and short-range drones, cruise and ballistic missiles of the Kinzhal type, MLRS and glide bombs have long become part of the life of Ukrainians from Kharkov to Lvov. Moreover, the citizens of Ukraine themselves are not to blame for this; - Soviet systems were sold out before the war or lost during the last 2 years of open conflict with Russia, and foreign supplies are completely insufficient and do not include truly modern types of weapons. Patriot, by the way, is not one of them. This system discredited itself in 2019 and then in 2022 during missile attacks on Saudi Aramco. Yet, recently it showed himself well when a transport plane carrying Ukrainian soldiers returning from captivity was shot down in the sky over Belgorod. Here, the Patriot worked flawlessly. ((
I feel it a bit biased (in a pejorative way) to consider the kinzal as well as the iskander not hypersonic. There seems no objective reason for it, if "above mach 5" and "maneuverability" are the criteria. Then anything that matches those conditions, should be considered hypersonic. That "it can't maintain it's highest speed for long" has little relevance; nowhere is it' stated that it needs to have mach 5+ the whole way of it's trajectory. In fact, the author himself acknowledges that *every* hypersonic missile - from any country - needs to slow down to zoom in on the target and hit it. So by that standard, when applied consistently, no hypersonic missile exists in the world, and what's more: it *can never* exist, because ALL those hypersonic missiles slow down below mach 5 at some point in their trajectory. I'm only applying logic here. That's the consequence of arguing that a missile that doesn't keep it's mach 5+ speed up shouldn't be considered a hypersonic missile.
It seems to me that the author wants his cake and eat it as well. He acknowledges no missile can maintain 5+ speeds, yet says those that fall below that speed on any given time on any part on it's trajectory, can't be considered hypersonic. Shouldn't that rather be reversed? Isn't it that any maneuverable missile that CAN reach above mach 5+ speeds, shpould be considered hypersonic? Being able to reach that speed is on of the main charateristics of hypersonic flight, after all, not that it needs to be hypersonic from begin to end. Because taken that to an extreme, than no airplane would ever become hypersonic neither, since they would fly a large part of their flightpatch below mach 5+ as well. Thsi makes no sense. IT's the ability to reach that speed that counts, not how long to maintain it.
So... He arbitrarily decides they're not hypersonic because they don't maintain a mach 5+ speed long enough, but fails to give any indication what is "long enough" and what objective criteria he uses to determine a time that is long enough. Let alone he gives any arguments why maintaining that speed should be considered necessary to be considered hypersonic in the first place. Is 30% of its flight-path at mach 5+ "long enough"? 40% ? 51%? 66%? He does not say, nor gives arguments why one given percentage should count as enough, and another not. He doesn't even explicitly say how long of the time it flies does an iskander or kinzal is actually above mach 5+, and how much longer it would need in hios book to be considered hypersonic. Since the start and the end of ANY hypersonic missile won't be hypersonic, using the same train of thought and reasoning as the author, one could, thus, argue no missile can ever be called hypersonic.
Using such convoluted criteria is not only highly arbitrary, but also quite nonsensical.
Didn't the patriot easily acquire and knock them out of the sky this week? Or was that a different missile system it slapped? If it was, 1970s us tech is still just toying with apparently the best Russia can throw at it. The javelin showed that already.
The Patriot defending Kyiv is one of the most modern versions of the system. So we can’t say that this is the 1970s tech. The details of the interception are unknown. Both sides of the conflict make unrealistic statements
It's not impossible to intercept it, it's just that the radar has to be pointing in the same direction at the correct time to give the system the best possible chance at intercepting it. Millenium7 has a great videos explaining the problem with intercepting hypersonic missiles.
@@flyerkiller5073 they are known and they didn't intercept any. 2 launchers were destroyed and 1 system was damaged. Now the US isn't allowing Ukraine to use patriots since this is the first time in history that not one but two patriot launchers got destroyed as a result of missile strike and 1 system was damaged so they're investigating and all patriots are shut down until the investigation goes on. If you don't believe it then just look at the Saudi oilfields protected by multiple patriot systems getting decimated with Yemeni drones and you think now suddenly they can shoot down mach10 cruise missiles? If you believe that I just can be sorry for you
@@freak94able bs😂
@@cmanlovespancakes okay now first check how a huge oilfield burns down protected by famous patriots and when the US claims that 1 was "damaged" it means its destroyed and since 2 was destroyed by direct missile hit they're pulling out. Its even on the news ROFL
US is using Ukraine as a test bed for its missile defense.
A very useful test bed.
Every country is using ukraine for that.
Every warzone is a test bed for the military tech
The bottom line is that it works.
the most adequate comment. I agree with you.What difference does it make what it's called if it flies faster than all rockets
I don’t know what to think about this rocket, because I don’t know anything about it. I can only judge by the video from Ukraine. The Ukrainians filmed the flight of the Kinzhal. I had a question, how do they know that this missile is a Kinzhal? Watching the video removed all the questions. The rocket flew at a foreseeable height, appeared from behind the right horizon and disappeared behind the left horizon in a matter of seconds. It was impressive speed. The rocket itself looked like an oblong ball of light. It became curious what speed it is, at least approximately. I watched various videos with other Russian missiles flying over Ukraine. The speed of the Kinzhal surpassed dozens of times. After the video of the Kinzhal flying, other missiles seemed to fly at the speed of a moving car.
They also say that the Patriot in Kyiv was destroyed by the Kinzhal. I don’t know if it was Kinzhal, but I think that any other Patriot missile would have been shot down. Here, the Patriot fired 32 missiles towards the Kinzhal flying towards them, and as a result, Kyiv lost one Patriot system. Be that as it may, the Kinzhal is an effective weapon and, as far as I understand, it is very variable.
You just made a video with the Jane's data about both missiles and it is an already known fact that they don't export the Kinzhal. Therefore Jane's hypothetical data are not accurate.
Officially 'Hypersonic' or not, the Kinzhal has been doing amazing work in the SMO. The recent hits on warehouses full of NAFO junk and mercs, C&C complexes, and energy concerns have done much to slow the AFU Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter/Spring Counteroffensive to a dribble. And OH! I would love to catch a ride in one of those MiG-31K's. All the way up as far as it could go to edge of space. Those machines are amazing! Thanks for bringing this video out. You have great scenes in this video of the machines. Спасибо!
RUSKI Bot.
This amazing work is still part of stalled Muscovite army with funny little gains since April last year.
@@maciek_k.cichon Kyiv in 3 Days!!!!
Bakhmut by Tomorrow.
Well, at time 20k USD could buy you ride on MiG-25 which is close enough.
Never thought about stealth missiles, hmmm, if they can't find'm how could they possibly be shot down?
Judging my the recent events in Ukraine, i never understood how they claim to shot down multiple Kinzhals but are having a hell of a time with dealing with basic Iskander strikes , thats like someone being able to do algebra but not solve simple multiplication
Yeah, and every may the 9th I saw a super duper army parading and they said all the vehicles presented where so much better than any other Western alternative. In the meanwhile the russian arms industry is losing clients like Mr. Beast loses credibility. Tldr: The patriot is better than the kinzhal.
Especially in current times it’s sad that these weapons ever have to be developed. And I wish politicians would wake up and let everyone live in peace.
AFIK Russia has MIG-31's in reserve that can be upgraded to replace the ones converted for Kinzhal. They should also find a way to use their glide bombs with MIG-31
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Yesss, give me that Foxhound goodness. I can never get enough of the MiG-31
Im sure Russia has tons of money and resources to mass produce thus right now. They have to worry about just getting regular shells and missles
Well, the video seems to be quite old. Now that the Kinzhal has penetrated the most modern NATO air defense umbrellas in Kiev and other places in Ukraine without any problems it seems that Kinzhal is going into mass production. There are still hundreds of Mig31 mothballed after the collapse of 1990 and their frames have only a small fraction of airtime lifetime spent. So, Mig31 is supplied in abundance from the stocks and upgraded to newest electronics. 🤔
The Kinzhal hasn't penetrated the most modern NATO air defense umbrella in Kyiv. Every single Kinzhal launched at Kyiv since Patriot systems have been deployed has been shot down. Kinzhal is 0-11 against modern NATO air defenses.
@@CaptainHightop Sure, the Patriot systems just self destructed as can now be seen on satellite photos. Last night, some dirt cheap Geraniums finished off what was left on the airfield. 😅
@@DilbertMuc You are really hitting that copium hard, Orc. The Patriot systems in Ukraine are still fully intact and operational. There is video of the Kyiv battery shooting down more of the Orc terror missiles targeted at civilians from just yesterday. I guess you are huffing that Orc propaganda hard huh? Just like how Russia supposedly destroyed every HIMARS system in Ukraine, yet not a single one has been lost. Or how Russia claims to have destoyed western MBTs before they ever even arrived in Ukraine. You Orcs are pathetic. 15 months into your 3 day "special operation" and you have over 200k dead orcs, over 3000 lost tanks, 7000 lost APCs and you still can't even capture the Donbas!
Patriot is a modern and effective air defense system, but I would not say that it is the best that NATO has. Hundreds of MiG-31s are indeed in storage, but their components are in short supply - they cannot simply be repaired and returned to service.
@@SkyshipsEng No need to. In another documentary they showed how the older bombers TU-160 and Mig-31 are stripped to the naked metal skeleton and are rebuild with brand new electronics, cables and everything else. Even engines are switched to modernized ones. Russia keeps all their old stuff, just in case of need. In the West, old stuff is actively destroyed or sold off to third world countries, just to get rid off it and buy new toys, a proven strategy of the MIC in Washington.
Thank you!
Thank you Sky !
What about if you sent 60 billion supersonic nuklear missiles at one aircraft carrier at the same time would it overwhelm anymissile defence?
I really love and enjoy the effort of the West supporters trying to make all Russians weapons as bad as it's possible.
Now kinzhal is not hypersonic missiles? Does maybe Avangard is hypersonic or those are aslo not, does zircon is or not? Well, let's be honest, americnas struggle to produce anything similar.
Russians tanks also suck hard, but hey, they withstand few hits by a javelin and usually the crew survives, while leopard is being pierced by a $20k drone. Enough said?
So, we understand. Everything Russian' sucks like by default, while everything americnas is perfectly good. Yes, perfectly good but when on the battlefield refusing to be as good as presented before.
What other plane could be adequate to carry the Kinzhal?
Tu-22M3, maybe Tu-160 and Su-34
@@SkyshipsEng Thanks for replying! And personally, I think SU-34 is the best for the role. Using any of the Tupolev's seems too risky.
Great Channel, I just subscribed.
I don't think the Flankers will achieve the optimum range for the Kinzhal. I've heard reports that it's launched at 65000ft at M2.5 by the mig31. A flanker cannot achieve that speed and altitude. While it's also can be launched by Backfires, it's low speed of about mach 1.6 fully loaded means that Russia is currently only launching them using the mig31 with the Tu22 launching the kh22s.
@@danielthuku8192 I see, thanks for the input
@@agentepolaris4914 why the tupolevs can just launch them from Russian airspace
well... it appears that the US Patriots are able to smack the Kinzhal to ground pretty effectively,
@minutlight over one city!! There's like a small group spreadout elsewhere! Cope harder copium man!
Source- trust the western news they totally don’t report what their told from the governments who also lie their no different from Russias lies 😂
@Minute Light but RUSSIA has not provided any evidence and the next day the same battery continued to operate…?
@Minute Light The first Kinzhal they send on the patriot was shot down, there is evidence.
The damage to the patriot were absolutely minimal
Yet they can't shoot down kh-22? Makes no sense
At 11:46 he mentions that the Kinzhal strikes speeds of Mach 10 or more, after explaining that hypersonic needs to be going at above Mach 6. As to how something going 4 Machs more than the hypersonic boundary is NOT YET Hypersonic 😮😮😮😮😮!
It's easy to sense that the narrator is Western and the weapon is Russian, without asking.
The missile slows down as it descends to it's target, it only reaches mach 10 a few seconds after launch
@@constellation-sj8xn who gives a fuck if it slows down a bit if it hits speeds of Mach 10 or more and can maneuver so cant be intercepted? You westerners are the biggest bullshiters.
Hi thank you for the very interesting video I read somewhere that at some point of its trajectory an hypersonic missile becomes invisible to radars because of its speed There was also a technical explanation about plasma that i did not understand I wonder if this is true and when it occurs
I guess that in the last part instead when the missile slows down it should be visible to radars There is something very fascinating about stealthiness to radars To be able to hit without being seen is something magic
And this would provide an exceptional advantage Of course
Nice information
Make a vdo on tsircon missile
It was difficult to make a video about the Kinzhal - there is very little information. There is almost no information about Tsircon
@@SkyshipsEng but can u explain me what's the basic difference between these two
Thank you for clearly explaining the difference between a ballistic missile and a hypersonic missile. I have to keep explaining this to people; now I can just show them your video.
Will you do Zircon as that is also big in news?
There is very little information about the Zircon. I'm afraid the video about it will be 90% fanfic. I'll create it when we learn more
17:55 - one would think, that uprgrade of guidance kit on already existing missiles with equal speed, greater range and twice the warhead would be more reasonable course of action.
It’s a half-measure, but this can be done, in theory
IMHO the Kinzhal is a modern advance version of Iskander missile, but as some says its not a true hypersonic in its nature is still in hypersonic in a sense that it's difficult to intercept because at a high speed of beyond mach 6 in its atmospheric trajectory path long range radar can't locate it.... The tip of the missile is being envelope by plasma field, when its nearing to its target it'll slow abit down but still near to mach 5 when descending and the enemy radars will be still having hard time to calculate its trajectory of target.... The radar or enemy cant only know it if it hits it's target and see the destruction.... US already admitted its hard to intercept and the Kinzhal hypersonic ghost of Kyiv by Klitschko is just a propaganda so the Ukrainian force would not loose hope to holding up themselves fighting for Ukraine (≧▽≦)
there is proof that a Kinzhal was intercepted, the wreck was found and identified, the US also confirmed it.
The fact that Russia lauched 6 Kinzhal at one patriot and it wasn't destroyed is another evidence that many Kinzhal were intercepted.
Pretty much everything you said was wrong. It's amazing you can be so sure of yourself when you are so wrong
@@rollog1248 No one cares what American propagandists have to say.
So if the missile takes all the needed data from the "AVACS" system (donT know how its called in Russia), and MiG is just a carrier without radar, shoot down the AVACS and problem seem to be sorted.
Yeah, I know that the flying radar can be miles away from the attacked area, but isnt that Russian term of "lost missile"?
The Russians have high-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters. High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas. High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface-based search radars at long ranges. High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. Completely, neutralizing the USA's use of AWACS for their detection.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp Jamming AWACS isn't exactly a great strategy for guiding a missile dependent on AWACS.
@@hedgehog3180 Huh? Want to try that again my friend?
3:24.. hypersonic at 1.6 km/h ?
I knew I was hypersonic 😂
what about avanguard and zircon..?
in this video , at 3'.23" you are saying that the speed is 1.6 km per hour ;;;; big mistake ;;;;;;;
km/sec
Can they sink carriers?
Probably not, RIM-161 (SM-3) has an inception speed of Mach 13.2. Fleet protection is built to be extremely effective. As they're expected to be targeted by strategic missles, such as ICBM.
@@KSmithwick1989
I was asking for hypersonic missiles, not ICBM. Yes, ICBM seem not to be a big problem.
@@how2preventnextplandemic76 What I'm going at, is hypersonic objects such as Kinzhal is slow by comparison. When you consider a destroyer picket can hit objects in orbit. It's basically overkill for most threats coming from high altitude.
@@KSmithwick1989
We will see what is the truth soon - I guess. They want war.
Sinking a carrier would require first finding it and that is difficult when Russia lacks any real reconnisance and intelligence assets. The most up to date information Russia would have is by spy satellite but they only have enough spy satellites to get images of an area every two days on average and carriers can obviously move very far in two days and are some of the fastest ships out there. This is further complicated by the fact that the US has several options for shooting down LEO satellites, so in all likelyhood in a war scenario the US would just shoot down any satellite before it passed over a carrier group. Then there's also the issue of launching the missile, the downside of it being air launched is that the platform can easily be shot down and these Mig-31s would effectively be blind sitting ducks since they have no radar, of course they'd have escorts but there are no Russian aircraft that stand a chance in an engagement with F-35s.
High precision weapons are needed when precise targets justify their high cost.
It was this ever since.
Again - not a word of Kinzhal penetration parameters! What incomplete report is this?
What do we know obut its penetration parameters?
@@frankgaleon5124 - Yeah, no one gives the missile characteristics when it hits the target!
AiTelly made a video about Kinzhal and they think it's a 2 stage missile.
Such a theory exists. But, I think they would not do such a scheme. It is very difficult to implement and reduces the parameters of the warhead. In addition, there is evidence that the missile falls on the target entirely
@@SkyshipsEng I agree with you . The only good thing about that theory is that the schematic predates the war . The evidence is strong or look like a M117 with recent made up schematics fo fit them ? Honest question , i'm just not in the business to be fooled by anyone :)
getting that thing off the ground using a supersonic jet sounds prohibitively expensive.
It's capable of drinking thousands of litres of vodka , capable of imitating a tourist , ...
The vintage analog cockpit instruments in russian planes look ridiculous in 21 century
Another good video! Certainly a weapon to be weary of in any case.
I heard the underground bunker in the first clip was actually design to store soviet nukes and withstand the blast of a nuke. If true thats some scary underground bunker busting power for something strictly relying on kinetic power
Poem ; Station MIR fallen into Earth. Vladimir you are in my heart.
It might be more difficult to intercept than a balistic missile, but going by recent events, it can be intercepted surprisingly reliably.
He said in the video that it is probably hard to intercept, but it is possible. It also has some other disadvantages, like price
32 patriot missiles used to destroy 2 kinzhal missiles, one launcher destroyed and another badly damaged needing to go back to Poland, over a billion dollars of damage to stop 2 missiles, as far as im aware, this is the only time one has been intercepted, otherwise the second launcher would also have been destroyed.
@@williamrutter3619 Strange how the system was still working the next night. I'm afraid your sources are exaggerating things a little bit...
@@c128stuff a system is more than one or two launchers
@@c128stuff plenty of videos showing lots of expensive patriot missiles going in to the air over a 90 seconds and two big ground explosions.
Hipersonic is no match for the speed of lasers. That idea was born to fail.
I appreciate you making this video from a purely technological/capability/military point of view, but I have trouble staying that dispassionate considering that I met refugees from Ukraine.
How does it work? well 6 of them not very well against Patriot pack 3
What about the zircon?
The entire world watched the video of the Patriot's destruction near Kiev despite the fact that the Patriot fired no less than 32 of its missiles in vain in less than 3 minutes of video. A few days later, another patriot system protecting an air base in the Ukraine was destroyed. According to Putin, 5 patriot systems were destroyed. So it must be recognized that such hypersonic weapons are extremely fearsome and effective weapons.
I still remember the first use of Khinzale in Ukraine, it was on March 13, 2022 against the Nato base in Yavoriv in Ukraine which is about 30 km from the Polish borders. 8 to 10 missiles had destroyed the base and eliminated about 400 NATO mercenaries. NATO's scare was so enormous that both Biden and Stoltenberg immediately came out to say that NATO does not intend to directly involve itself in the conflict. Those missiles no one saw coming, nothing even though they had traveled a long distance from the black sea.
These hypersonic weapons are terrifying, the fact that the patriot can't do anything is a more than valid reason to fear them. Experts have commented that indeed the patriot is not suitable against hypersonic weapons but is designed against ballistic missiles at most supersonic. No one can defend himself with just a sword against bullets.
How does lying prevent your weak army from being wiped out? You know for a fact that orcs aren't capable off destrpying American weapon systems. 🤣
Around 3:28 you say per hour when you meant second i believe
ic, skyships took a look at the rocket, recognized the iskanker shape, and lazily concluded it must be same old plus mig31-launching, i.e., an iskanker with correspondingly altered+extended trajectory. Lazy as skyships is, he did not even do the little google research needed to find the published research on how to i/o to the interior of plasma-shrouded hypersonic bodies and arrogantly concluded that such i/o is not possible, missing out on the most likely scenario which sees kinzhal being blind but with trajectory randomly altered and then brought back on target by external guidance that geolocates the rocket in real time based on its radio and IR emissions, a scenario which would allow kinzhal to hit with full 12-mach kinetic energy and only requires a materials-science breakthrough to give it protracted resistance to friction heat.
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Could they make more - without western electronics ???
Those explosion footage are iskandar missiles not kin
They are the exact same missile. The only difference is Kinzhal can be mounted to a MIG
Kinzhal slapped the shit out of the Patriot system 😂
The first Kinzhal they send on the patriot was shot down, there is evidence.
After that 6 Kinzhal were fired to the Patriot and weren't able to destroy it, it's fair to assume they were all intercepted even if we don't have the proof at this time (It will come soon enough).
A certain western country has infiltrated and literally annihilated the Kinzhals (USSR)country of origin. 😂
Lockdown kid 😂....go and check how the patriot shoot down Russian so called modern missile kinzhal..
Hey Sky . I just wanna mention one thing . Minute 3:25, you said 1.6 km per hour . I believe you mean 1.6 km per second .
Yes it is. My mistake
@Skyships Eng it's all good sky
Still an amazing video as usual . Thank you for your time and effort. ❤️
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3:24 About 1.6km per hour? Sounds not right to me but hey... I'm not a rocket scientist.
km/sec
what mean hypersonic?
more then MACH5
and is not related to seconds into hypersonic range
so everything can fly 1 sec at MACH5.0 is called hypersonic .. so simple
Please make a video about the AAV-14 soviet submarine hunter plane
3:24 come again! 1.6 km/h ?
Surely an error in magnitude; he meant 1.6 Km per secoond.
Compro 70.000 unidades para a força aéria brasileira
What we learned is that Patriot SAM cant shoot it down even with 32 rocket salvo 😄
If that was the case why was there only one impact on film.
Bruh it's all about ghost of Kyiv fantasy story by Klitschko and Zelensky to boost morale of it's Ukrainian army😹😹😹
They can't even provide a reliable source of evidence to show a real wreckage of Kinzhal
yes yes yes... and yet, Patriot takes them out as flies with the newspaper...
Patriot was damaged as a result.
The Kinzhal was so successful that the makers of said weapons were sent to penal colonies!
I realise the Mig-31 has high performance, but I would have thought it was needed (especially these days) in it’s original role? It’s well known that Mig-31 had played a major role in keeping the Ukrainian Airforce limited in use/effectiveness. Could not Su-34 handle Kinzhal Sky?
In fact, the Su-34 seems like a logical carrier for this missiles, but it is mute, not yet said. Apparently, now the missile is being adapted for the Tu-22M
@@SkyshipsEng thanks Sky. I’m sure Tu-22M can handle the job just fine also. 👍
@@SkyshipsEng Just my opinion but I think Mig-31 (and Su-25) deserve to be put back into production.
Well reports today that Su-34 was used for a Kinzal launch for the first time… Happy the Defence Ministry heard me! :) I honestly think those Mig-31K airframes will be needed to support the rest of the 31 fleet, so this is a good move.