it's sad cause u can see ward taking advantage of rafe and further enabling his mental instability and rafe is just trying to please him whatever it takes. sick relationship😅
18:51 I love how the sheriff got mad and got up when jj mentions his mustache but was unfazed when they turned in the weapon that was used by rafe and ward
Kie yelling like that had to be one of the DUMBEST moments I’ve seen watching shows. When I watched it it had me so mad. At least it meant the show would keep going on I guess
gotta defend my girl kie here - if she didn't shout, ward wouldn't have been scared away, and he might've stayed to retrieve the gun (agree it's not the best writing, if it was clear, we wouldn't be discussing this, but that's how i saw it) also, her calling the cops might seem terrible to us (vicariously we don't trust the cops knowing more than kie does about them) but it was necessary to get emergency services to hopefully save gavin's life. it would be very out-of-character if the character who cares the most about social justice were to just run with her friends and leave gavin to die ps kie's emotional & passionate and that has pros & cons. she can get carried away, but it's because she gets very agitated by wrongs in the world. honestly, i probably wouldn't be caring what happened to me/have my sanity if i knew ward was just killing people impulsively & getting away with it
i've never thought of it like a tactical move to scream so that ward wouldn't retrieve the gun, interesting. but i'm pretty sure it doesn't read like that on screen she just seems very emotional and angry and that's when u make extremely irrational decisions. i just wish they executed it better bc it came off as campy and idiotic... and furthermore she continued to blame everyone but herself after.
I know this is a year later but there really is no defense or trying to make sense of it. Our theories don't matter because in an interview she explained she was meant to throw a rock at him and then yell but they only ended up doing this bit because they didn't really think the audience would react to her character that badly because of it. so it really was just a writing and production error
Rafe and Ward just being your everyday father son combo. Even though Kie pissed me off with the screaming out, she was a real one for going in the drain even though it was still her fault lol.
girl byeee..yes ward is a horrible father & rafe deserved a better father but that doesn’t justify him KILLING A INNOCENT PERSON & DROWNING HIS OWN SISTER & SHOOTING HER and STEALING POPES CROSS & BURNING IT FOR MONEY he’s psycho & needs help
the thing that pisses me off more is season 1 kie was always the one making the smart decisions but in season 2 they wrote her to be the one that always messed up just so the plot can thicken. they could’ve spread it out among all the characters but they only did it to kie😂 everyone was really upset on what they did to her character so i’m pretty sure she’s getting a better role in season 3 which is good
@@officialtoiletpaper yeah. It was such a dumb decision from the writers. Like there could’ve been more ways to make Ward see them other than make Kiara scream. But yeah hopefully season 3 goes better for her
@@MJ-ld6wg i’m just hoping we get more of season 1 kie again, she’s gonna be the big focus of season 3 so hopefully they can write her character better
I definitely dislike Ward more because there is no redemptive storyline for him. There is no backstory or anything that is revealed for me to feel bad for him at all. He’s just a greedy, manipulative scumbag and a pure villain. All Rafe wants is to be loved by his father and unfortunately, his fathers version of “love” is SO screwed up an manipulative that it’s sad to witness. The way this show makes me despise Rafe and then feel sad for him is actually impressive and infuriating all at once. Just wait for the rest of this season… y’all are gonna have a whole time. 😂😅
Ward does not fit the profile of a serial killer at all. In both instances he has committed murder the person he had a financial arrangement with attempted to change the deal. John bs dad was a fight where he hit his head while they were fighting. Ward was walking away from Gavin when Gavin tried to extort him once again. None of these acts of murder are psychopathic or fit the profile of a serial killer
What is up w kie & screaming murderers at the worst possible times lmao, if she was a guy in that moment I’d punch him in the face, but since she’s a girl ig you just gotta yell at her
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Rafe and ward just casually murdering people and then covering it up like it’s some kind of casual father and son bonding time their insane lol 😂
its kinda funny since their both insane
it's sad cause u can see ward taking advantage of rafe and further enabling his mental instability and rafe is just trying to please him whatever it takes. sick relationship😅
@@atiaalbury8612Ward isn’t nearly as insane
18:51 I love how the sheriff got mad and got up when jj mentions his mustache but was unfazed when they turned in the weapon that was used by rafe and ward
Kie yelling like that had to be one of the DUMBEST moments I’ve seen watching shows. When I watched it it had me so mad. At least it meant the show would keep going on I guess
Atleast they address is in season 3 lol
8:34 that was the most frustrating moment of the whole show
gotta defend my girl kie here - if she didn't shout, ward wouldn't have been scared away, and he might've stayed to retrieve the gun (agree it's not the best writing, if it was clear, we wouldn't be discussing this, but that's how i saw it)
also, her calling the cops might seem terrible to us (vicariously we don't trust the cops knowing more than kie does about them) but it was necessary to get emergency services to hopefully save gavin's life. it would be very out-of-character if the character who cares the most about social justice were to just run with her friends and leave gavin to die
ps kie's emotional & passionate and that has pros & cons. she can get carried away, but it's because she gets very agitated by wrongs in the world. honestly, i probably wouldn't be caring what happened to me/have my sanity if i knew ward was just killing people impulsively & getting away with it
i've never thought of it like a tactical move to scream so that ward wouldn't retrieve the gun, interesting. but i'm pretty sure it doesn't read like that on screen she just seems very emotional and angry and that's when u make extremely irrational decisions. i just wish they executed it better bc it came off as campy and idiotic... and furthermore she continued to blame everyone but herself after.
This exactly!
There’s no defending, it was stupid no matter what lol
Kie was just being a fuckin idiot. Gavin died anyway and they had the footage to but ward away
I know this is a year later but there really is no defense or trying to make sense of it. Our theories don't matter because in an interview she explained she was meant to throw a rock at him and then yell but they only ended up doing this bit because they didn't really think the audience would react to her character that badly because of it. so it really was just a writing and production error
Bryce is REAALLYY good at predicting this show
Kie yelling like that made me SO mad too thats prob the one time her character seriously angered me from what ive seen so far of season 2 😭
8:57 we all felt that way LMAOOO
Rafe and Ward just being your everyday father son combo. Even though Kie pissed me off with the screaming out, she was a real one for going in the drain even though it was still her fault lol.
all rafe wants is loved from his dad and that he will do anything to love him to just like sara
girl byeee..yes ward is a horrible father & rafe deserved a better father but that doesn’t justify him KILLING A INNOCENT PERSON & DROWNING HIS OWN SISTER & SHOOTING HER and STEALING POPES CROSS & BURNING IT FOR MONEY he’s psycho & needs help
@@jadebordelon6962 I never gave it as an excuse. i’m just saying that’s what he always wanted
This episode Kiara pissed me off soooooo much. Like why would she yell that?!?!?!
the thing that pisses me off more is season 1 kie was always the one making the smart decisions but in season 2 they wrote her to be the one that always messed up just so the plot can thicken. they could’ve spread it out among all the characters but they only did it to kie😂 everyone was really upset on what they did to her character so i’m pretty sure she’s getting a better role in season 3 which is good
@@officialtoiletpaper yeah. It was such a dumb decision from the writers. Like there could’ve been more ways to make Ward see them other than make Kiara scream. But yeah hopefully season 3 goes better for her
@@MJ-ld6wg i’m just hoping we get more of season 1 kie again, she’s gonna be the big focus of season 3 so hopefully they can write her character better
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8:36 they can test fir DNA on if it matches Rafe(ex. Get a piece if his hair or nail) then they use science and send it in to get tested
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I definitely dislike Ward more because there is no redemptive storyline for him. There is no backstory or anything that is revealed for me to feel bad for him at all. He’s just a greedy, manipulative scumbag and a pure villain.
All Rafe wants is to be loved by his father and unfortunately, his fathers version of “love” is SO screwed up an manipulative that it’s sad to witness. The way this show makes me despise Rafe and then feel sad for him is actually impressive and infuriating all at once.
Just wait for the rest of this season… y’all are gonna have a whole time. 😂😅
THIS
@4:55 yo he had fuckn burners 😂😂😂 fast ass security guard
“john b needs to turn into superman”😂
Get ready for the next episode to kinda be like Princess Bride
mann oh mann
Ward does not fit the profile of a serial killer at all. In both instances he has committed murder the person he had a financial arrangement with attempted to change the deal. John bs dad was a fight where he hit his head while they were fighting. Ward was walking away from Gavin when Gavin tried to extort him once again. None of these acts of murder are psychopathic or fit the profile of a serial killer
isnt a serial killer just someone that’s killed more than one person?
No
you mean he’s not a psychopath like rafe, sure but he is a serial killer lol he’s killed more than 3 people
Jets fan…….this guy gets it✈️✈️✈️🫡🫡
What is up w kie & screaming murderers at the worst possible times lmao, if she was a guy in that moment I’d punch him in the face, but since she’s a girl ig you just gotta yell at her
lowk the middle guy has watched t and keeps ruining it
he hasnt watched this show, rob is just very good at deciphering film