The Ashmont-Mattapan High Speed Line (and other quirks of the Boston Red Line)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
  • When you look on a subway map, the last thing you're probably expecting is to ride 75-year-old streetcars on one of the lines. But that is exactly the case for the Boston Red Line. While most of the line is a traditional heavy rail subway, the southern end of one of the branches is physically disconnected from the rest of the line. Instead, on this short, isolated section, old PCC trolleys run on a service known as the "Ashmont-Mattapan High Speed Line."
    We board the Red Line at Harvard (yes, like the famous university), and along the way to Ashmont, we're getting off at several stations to point out strange features at those stops. Check out the chapters to find out what those strange features are!
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    Chapters
    0:00 Introduction
    0:23 A Tour of Harvard University
    1:22 Harvard Square: Bus Tunnel
    2:34 Harvard Square: Stacked Platforms
    3:52 Boarding a Train
    4:34 Kendall/MIT: Musical Artwork (that doesn't work)
    6:22 Crossing the Charles River
    7:29 Doors Closing Noise
    7:42 Park Street: Spanish Solution Platforms
    7:59 South Station
    8:21 Andrew
    8:38 JFK/UMass: the Line Splits
    9:17 Savin Hill: Only the Ashmont Branch Stops Here
    9:52 Arrival at Ashmont
    11:00 Walking to the High Speed Line
    12:10 Interior Review of the PCC Streetcars
    12:43 Riding the High Speed Line
    14:43 History of the High Speed Line
    16:20 Arrival at Mattapan
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Комментарии • 104

  • @erik_griswold
    @erik_griswold Год назад +32

    The PCCs on the Mattapan line are also interesting because they were approved for construction during WW2. That meant special consideration to divert materials from the war effort to building new streetcars, and this was not something done casually.

    • @tylerkochman1007
      @tylerkochman1007 Год назад +3

      To be fair, it made sense to do that because the more people riding public transit, the less automobiles being used and the more fuel spared for use by the troops. Yes, metal was also valuable, but using it to preserve fuel during the war effort was clearly a justifiable use

    • @josephpadula2283
      @josephpadula2283 Год назад +1

      Also rubber for new tires were rationed.

  • @erik_griswold
    @erik_griswold Год назад +33

    The chimes at Kendall were installed almost 40 years ago so its not surprising that they aren’t in working order anymore. Fun fact: they were designed by Henri Matisse’s grandson.

    • @andrew_ray
      @andrew_ray Год назад +2

      They still work on the northbound platform as of March 10. The sound ones have been broken for years.

  • @eugeneking1462
    @eugeneking1462 Год назад +16

    Visited Boston in 2007 and rode the Red, Orange, Blue and Green Lines. Unfortunately the A-M High Speed Line was closed for repairs. I did get to ride the #71 trolley bus though.

  • @Pauley_in_GP
    @Pauley_in_GP Год назад +14

    Growing up in Boston in the 50s and 60s, I spent quite a bit of time on the subway and trolleys including the Mattapan-Ashmont line. (I lived in Mattapan off of Blue Hill Ave.) It was during those years I became a rail fan - and several PCC trolleys now run on my model railroad layouts. (It's so neat that the PCC cars were saved.)
    Enjoyed the video. Good job! And thanks for the memories.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +3

      I’m glad I could bring you some nostalgia! Boston has a great little train system, compared to what I’ve seen in other parts of the country. Hopefully others will cherish the history like we do.

  • @beanpole256
    @beanpole256 Год назад +6

    I live in Mattapan, and use the high speed line frequently, i found this video while looking for a video game that included this line in its contents, but am happy to see that others appreciate its beauty!😌

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      It’s a great little line !

  • @erik_griswold
    @erik_griswold Год назад +5

    Before the extension up Mass Ave to Porter Square, Davis Square and Alewife, the tracks headed under Boylston Street (now JFK Street) to a Yard where the Kennedy School of Government now stands. That meant that the double-stacked Red Line tracks lined up with the bus tunnel for easy transfer between the Streetcars and later Trackless Trolleys to the Red Line Trains in both directions.

  • @EddieLeindecker-re1hg
    @EddieLeindecker-re1hg 6 месяцев назад +1

    I especially love how they make the audio announcements in the station, telling passengers how long it will be until their train arrives

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  6 месяцев назад

      That is very convenient, especially for people with vision impairments!

  • @junesilvermanb2979
    @junesilvermanb2979 Год назад +2

    The Ashmont-Mattapan High-Speed Line, commonly referred to as the Mattapan Trolley, is a partially grade-separated light rail line which forms part of the MBTA's Red Line rapid transit line.
    The line, which runs through Boston and Milton, Massachusetts, opened on August 26, 1929, as a conversion of a former commuter rail line.
    It exclusively uses PCC streetcars, supported by a maintenance team of blacksmiths and metalworkers who make parts for the historic rolling stock.
    Passengers must transfer at Ashmont to access the rest of the Red Line, which uses heavy rail metro rolling stock.
    The trolley's 2.6-mile (4.2 km) route is used only by streetcars and has just two public grade crossings.
    All stations have low platforms, but all except Valley Road have been retrofitted with wheelchair lifts or wooden ramps for accessibility.
    Unlike most heritage streetcar lines, it is an integral part of the modern MBTA transit system rather than a tourist attraction.

  • @amfm889
    @amfm889 Год назад +4

    Thanks for pointing out the musical-art at Kendall/MIT. The chimes are called "The Kendall Band", and I always made a point to "play" them when at the station. In the past the T has called in the artist who created it, and the two others, the gong and the rattling sheet, to repair them when needed. Time for another call!

  • @ljones436
    @ljones436 4 месяца назад +1

    Although I grew up in Tennessee, my Mum is from Milton. When we'd go to visit my grandparents in Milton, the thing I looked forward to the most was going downtown, taking the trolley from Lower Milton Mills to Ashmont and then the subway into downtown. It is the coolest transit line in the nation, in my humble opinion.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  4 месяца назад

      It is very cool! A museum and a metro all in one

  • @G-Forces
    @G-Forces Год назад +3

    Actually part of the reason they didn't use heavy rail on the Mattapan line is because of it's level crossings. Heavy rail was deemed to dangerous because it would be much harder to stop the train in emergencies, such as a car being stuck on the track.

  • @jamieryall8341
    @jamieryall8341 Год назад +2

    I lived in Mattapan & Roxbury in the '50s as a kid & remember traveling with my mother on the cars.

  • @hirampriggott1689
    @hirampriggott1689 12 дней назад

    Wow! I haven't been down there in years! So many memories!

  • @TheBostonR
    @TheBostonR 3 месяца назад

    Note, I believe the 'high speed trolley', is the only train service in the US to pass through a cemetery. I live in Milton, but it's only a 7 min walk to Mattapan Sq from my house.

  • @mikeappignani4383
    @mikeappignani4383 3 месяца назад +1

    Boston has an awesome T SYSTEM 👏. Amazing That those old Trains are RUNNING 😊

  • @andrew_ray
    @andrew_ray Год назад +9

    It's high-speed because unlike the other streetcar lines, it ran in a dedicated right-of-way. This meant it could run as fast as 25MPH, while other lines were limited to 10-15MPH.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад

      Interesting!

    • @Tubes12AX7k
      @Tubes12AX7k Месяц назад +1

      And limited stops, as well. The Philadelphia and New Jersey suburbs also have some good remaining high speed lines for rail fans.

    • @ryan225360
      @ryan225360 6 дней назад

      @@Tubes12AX7kNorristown high speed line!

  • @Notsorussianuser
    @Notsorussianuser 14 дней назад

    Cleanest station I've ever seen in my life lmao

  • @BobNWFA
    @BobNWFA Год назад +2

    Absolutely wonderful! I especially love your explanation, with maps, of the history of the line. Thank you!

  • @clearlycut_
    @clearlycut_ Год назад +3

    Ashmont trollies are technically apart of the green line system since its light rail. Even though the ashmont trollies connect with the red line as an extension. Heavy rail conductors are not trained to operate the ashmont trolles, green line operators are.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад

      Just because they use the same pool of staff doesn’t mean they’re part of the green line system

  • @Anon21486
    @Anon21486 11 месяцев назад +1

    Regarding the PCC... my understanding is that the major issue for the replacement of the PCC with new light rail is that the bridges the Mattapan line runs through can not support a lot of weight. To put into perspective, the newer Green Line trolleys are too heavy for the bridges. I also think that the new trolleys may be too wide for the existing infrastructure, including the loop at Ashmont...

  • @CABOOSEBOB
    @CABOOSEBOB Год назад +4

    Rip trolleybus, bring back them or the streetcars

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +3

      Bring back everything!

  • @IaHarbour
    @IaHarbour 3 месяца назад

    It’s worth noting that the branches actually split before JFK/Umass, so there are two separate platforms for each line. This gives the station a unique situation where announcements for Alewife bound trains include which platform the service is arriving on, as they could arrive on one of two disconnected platforms.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  3 месяца назад

      That is a really cool setup. I'll have to check it out next time.

  • @CameronLandels
    @CameronLandels Год назад +3

    Hi Thom. I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing with us the history of both lines and the fun facts. It must feel like you stepped back in time whilst riding the PCC cars. I know the Newark Light Rail used PCC cars until 2001. I do like the look of the new rolling stock for the Orange, Red and Green lines. Looking forward to the next video from Boston. 🙂

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +2

      The next video will be the green line! My personal favorite (although the Ashmont-Mattapan line is a close second).
      It was a blast from the past! Though there were a lot of PCCs in the Netherlands in the last century, I never actually rode one until here in Boston.
      They run in Kenosha, Wisconsin, too. Planning to go there maybe in the fall.
      Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @ck4426
    @ck4426 Год назад

    As always, we really enjoyed this video and learned a lot!!! We love that they were made in 1945-46 and still at work!!! Wonderful!!!

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      I really hope they stay around for a while yet, I think it’s such a cool nod to the past. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, this one was a lot of fun to film!

  • @Edgeworthian
    @Edgeworthian 8 месяцев назад

    The PCC cars on the Ashmont-Mattapan line are the oldest still in revenue service. Boston is one of about half a dozen agencies in North America that still use PCCs in some type of revenue service. The four cars still in operation were originally purchased for service on what is now the green line.

  • @tommarino1056
    @tommarino1056 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for an enjoyable and informative video.

  • @kevinwason6762
    @kevinwason6762 Год назад

    Thom....... I always learn something when watching your clips, Please keep up the good work.

  • @paulinojs1994
    @paulinojs1994 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @Senor.semaj11
    @Senor.semaj11 Год назад

    My dad works at William Ravis, Wich is at central ave. I was obsessed at watching the trolley when i went there

  • @ChrisH-1952
    @ChrisH-1952 Год назад +1

    Excellent in every way: informative (I learned about Harvard and where it is), well videoed and edited (great use of cutting in shots from other places and times), clear commentary and explanations (the graphics really helped my understanding of somewhere I know nothing about). Well done once again. Pity the musical 'art' wasn't functioning, but you can't have everything. By the way, I forgot to mention before that I noticed the upgrade to your opening titles a few weeks ago so they match the HD of the rest of the presentation. Attention to detail 👍

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      I’ve been working hard on my videos, so it means a lot to me to hear that you’ve noticed it!
      A friend of mine made the new title thing, he’s really talented!
      I think the art installation was installed about a decade or so ago, and then the MBTA never paid to keep it up. There’s obviously better things for them to spend money on, but it’s still kind of sad.

  • @travgames0113
    @travgames0113 3 месяца назад

    You timed the red line proper right. It can get so crowded you feel like sardines. And just a note, the red line currently does not have a blue line connection, supposedly it is being built as part of a MGH project, and downtown crossing has an orange line connection. Oh, and the tracks at JFK/UMass serve 3 commuter rail lines, and the station has a weird configuration. Braintree and Ashmont trains split/merge before/after JFK/UMass and each branch as an inbound and outbound platform, and one commuter rail platform.

  • @ClassyWhale
    @ClassyWhale Год назад +2

    Loving your videos, Thom! You should've met up with Miles in Transit in Boston :)

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +2

      Haha, I was on a well-earned vacation with my wife! Maybe next time

  • @pepperpillow
    @pepperpillow Год назад +2

    I don’t know why but I thought Cambridge was like, further away from Boston then that. I had no idea Harvard and Boston had freaking subway stations!

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +6

      Yeah, Cambridge is basically just an extension of Boston, just across the River! Both areas are really fun and beautiful, and I’d definitely include Cambridge in your sightseeing plans for Boston.

  • @ronniemosley3968
    @ronniemosley3968 Год назад

    Gotta come again they have newly built pcc with modernized features and that old pcc style everyone loves

  • @jonnyfennessy9812
    @jonnyfennessy9812 Год назад

    The former head house of Havard Sta. Was used as a news paper stand called Out of Town news. The
    M.B.T.A over the M.T.A in 1966. Changing names of some stations, & using color codes to differentiate the lines. Blue, Orange, etc. When the T expanded to the South shore, the used silver cars instead of red.

  • @londonwhaley8690
    @londonwhaley8690 Год назад

    I enjoyed the video👍👍

  • @TravelsByTransit
    @TravelsByTransit 8 месяцев назад

    I love your vids!

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  8 месяцев назад

      I’m glad!

    • @TravelsByTransit
      @TravelsByTransit 8 месяцев назад

      @@Thom-TRA Do you plan on going to Boston anytime soon?

  • @joshc2650
    @joshc2650 Год назад

    7:33 Im used to the Doors Closing announcment on the L instead of the T

  • @erik_griswold
    @erik_griswold Год назад

    The branches split after Andrew, but later on a platform was added to the Braintree Branch at Columbia, now JFK/UMass.

  • @johnkolassa1645
    @johnkolassa1645 Год назад +2

    Great video. Too bad about the trolley busses.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад

      Yeah, at least the Silver line is still around. But welcome to the US of A, where even in 2022 electric transit is replaced with gas…

  • @e12310
    @e12310 Месяц назад

    Was that Tommy T playing the harmonica at Harvard Square Station?

  • @shreddedbulgariamapperofficial
    @shreddedbulgariamapperofficial 9 месяцев назад

    I like the mattapan line because it’s very old school

  • @SebisRandomTech
    @SebisRandomTech Год назад +1

    Any plans to come to Pittsburgh? You might find the light rail system here to be rather interesting.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      I’ve always wanted to. No plans as of yet.

    • @SebisRandomTech
      @SebisRandomTech Год назад +2

      @@Thom-TRA Get out here as soon as you can. The Library Line in particular is super cool and very scenic similar to the Mattapan - Ashmont line. It may be endangered soon due to low ridership. The rest of the network is pretty neat in its own right, still using broad “Pennsylvania Trolley” gauge and a mix of high and low level platforms. If you’re lucky you might also get to ride on the Allentown Line while they’re running detours - the line is entirely street running and has a lot of sharp curves and steep (up to 9.5% I believe) grades but is only used during reroutes.

  • @blackpanda7298
    @blackpanda7298 7 месяцев назад

    Wow those door chimes are bonkers 😂

  • @jack615
    @jack615 Год назад

    Also there are 3 commuter rail lines that parallel the Red Line Middleboro Kingston and Greenbush

  • @mtasubwaymartasubway
    @mtasubwaymartasubway Месяц назад

    It's a shame there's no video's of the Boston transportation back in the early 1900s like nyc subway

  • @ani2595
    @ani2595 10 месяцев назад

    Do you think the line should extend to past Mattapan and into Roslindale?

  • @nickleonardo5474
    @nickleonardo5474 Год назад +1

    Next time you come to Boston let me know

  • @EmilePoelman
    @EmilePoelman Год назад

    Nice video, again! Why is this tram called a trolley,Thom?

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +6

      In America, old trams are called trolleys. Trolleys collect electricity differently than normal trams or trains, using a trolley pole rather than a pantograph.
      In fact, that’s why they call it trolleybuses, because these buses collect electricity in the same way that trolleys do.

  • @gethighonlife11
    @gethighonlife11 Год назад

    @11:10 I swear that those buses look like Pace buses! LOL!

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад

      They’re probably the same model. There’s only so many that all the bus operators in America choose from!

  • @joshthomas8986
    @joshthomas8986 Год назад +1

    Boston is A great city!

  • @briansivley2001
    @briansivley2001 Год назад +3

    4:43 I would say maybe waiting for the train that Charlie is on😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +3

      Poor Charlie. Wanted to give him a nickel but I’m afraid the fares have increased more than that since then!

  • @eugeneking1462
    @eugeneking1462 Год назад +2

    What did you think of the Red Lline subway trains running red lights in front?

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +3

      It’s definitely a strange sight at first! since the red line doesn’t mix with other lines I don’t think it’s too much of a problem, but it would seem to me that red light doesn’t provide as much illumination at night/underground as regular lights would.

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 Год назад

      @@Thom-TRA except the red lights are additional to regular headlights

  • @jtrgames3881
    @jtrgames3881 4 месяца назад

    3:33 01616 RETURNS!!!!!!

  • @Nakedbilove408
    @Nakedbilove408 Год назад

    Welcome to Boston
    And that's my dog's name Ashmont the trolley is part of the green light

  • @tonymento7460
    @tonymento7460 Год назад +1

    The Ashmont Mattapan line had Type - 4 cars during the rush hour was Type - 4 with center entrance trailers they were replace with the Type - 5 cars then the All Electric PCC ‘s with some Type - 5 cars used in the rush hour in 1959 the Type - 5’s
    and the All Electric cars were replace with the X - Dallas cars from Dallas Texas they stayed until the 1980’s they were replace by the picture window cars that were built by Pullman Standard they were the last PCC cars built by Pullman Standard then in 1986 these cars were replaced by the rebuilt PCC cars that were rebuilt back in the early 1980’s these were rebuild by the MBTA at the Riverside shops then in 1990 they were rebuild again at the Riverside shops with A/C Brookville car company has been building parts for the
    PCC ‘s this the same company that rebuild the PCC cars for SF MUNI and SEPTA the PCC’s are going to be replace by the Type - 9 LRV’s in 2025 when the new Type - 10 110 foot long LRV ‘s come in from CAF USA Inc

  • @1jamarks
    @1jamarks Год назад

    You're showing me that google maps does a piss poor job of showing "transit" options. When you enable the "show transit options" layer in google maps it's showing the redline but not this Mattapan Trolley. It's the same for that new Redlands extension you recently reviewed. I thought it was because it was new and they hadn't updated it yet. This Mattapan line clearly isn't new. I guess I need to find another map program.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      You’re right, the Google maps option is just terrible. There are entire systems just not shown. Apple is slightly better in my experience. But still, a good transit map is the best.

  • @dalecaldwell
    @dalecaldwell 3 месяца назад

    Did Charlie ever get off?

  • @meltrain
    @meltrain Год назад

    Why are the subway trains showing red lights at te front? It really confuses me.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад

      Red line

    • @Qboro66
      @Qboro66 11 месяцев назад

      And yet, the operating ends are equipped with sealed beams...🤔

  • @billmalovich9050
    @billmalovich9050 Месяц назад

    I noticed your claim of getting on a clean car. I've been riding the T for 40+ years and I've NEVER been on a clean car. In fact the Orange Line cars appear to have never been washed. As for the Art exhibit at Kendall, the T has never wasted money on maintenance of any kind. Wait a few years and come back to the Red/Orange Line and you'll see my point

  • @chrisorr8601
    @chrisorr8601 Год назад +1

    Fun fact about legally blonde, while it was set in Harvard it was almost entirely filmed at my UCLA

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад

      Wow I did not know that!

  • @waltertomashefsky2682
    @waltertomashefsky2682 Год назад

    😊 So… how come the Red Line cars are painted Orange at Ashmont? Did somebody run out of red paint? Actually it looks like they ran out of orange paint too. And that cream color for the interior. Send these PCCs to San Francisco - they know how to take care of their old fleet on Market Street. And how can they call a 2.5 mile line with 8 stops "high speed"?
    I come from the Boston area and rode the T many years going to school, and then working in Boston, so I think I’ve earned the right to poke fun at them. I used to ride orange-painted PCC cars on the Green line and I have a soft spot somewhere for them - and it’s a shame that the T has let them go to seed like that.

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      The High Speed dates back to when there were trolley lines on the streets and faster lines that ran on dedicated rights of way.

    • @lloydsheck1268
      @lloydsheck1268 Год назад

      ​@@blue9multimediagroup very true it pays homage to the MTA days

  • @seamusmckeon9109
    @seamusmckeon9109 Год назад

    It would be interesting to see a modern Flexity streetcar or other modern vehicle on the line

    • @Thom-TRA
      @Thom-TRA  Год назад +1

      It would, but it would be such a shame that this piece of history disappears.