Sucks to those that dropped money on the R5 with its silly 30min limit. Still, I wish that the R3 had full sized HDMI, Waveforms, RAW out to the Ninja+ and the truth regarding its overheating details
You still have the DAC to deal with, how precise it is with low level signal, what's its SNR in the analog input stage? All considered in the target market price, that is.
It's for the quick delivery cause, directly from the camera to a ftp server or streaming, I imagine. It aught to be ready for broadcasting immediately.
Hello, eos R3 - raw video slog 3, I cannot get a clear image at 800 and 1600 ISO. Do you think this is normal? My exposure is correct, I tried at least 3 different programs. As a result, I cannot get rid of the noise. Is there a raw workflow you can recommend? Thanks
Jeff Cable interview in Canon Rumors: Like myself, I do wonder why the Canon EOS R3 isn’t dual CFExpress slots. I think the market that will buy this camera is ok with spending more on fast memory cards. Q: What’s the one thing you liked least about the R3? Jeff Cable: The SD Card slot is slow. I was shooting RAW plus JPEG to both the CFexpress card and the SD card since I couldn’t easily open the R3’s RAW files yet and needed the JPEGs. Some people don’t know this but shooting RAW plus JPEG slows the camera down more than shooting two RAWs because the camera has to process the image twice.
We really need to test the footage before we can tell that. But my initial thoughts are that the c70 will be a better video specific tool for most users, but the R3 will certainly have environments where it would be much more suitable
The C70 is Super 35, and this is full frame. Not that there's anything wrong with Super 35, but it's something to keep in mind. My big concern for that would be that all the RF mount glass is full frame at this point. Of course, you can use the RF to EF adapter and get some EF mount APS-C glass (so EF-S) that would be more appropriate. I would use the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 EF-S lens primarily if I were to get a C70 with the Sigma 50-100mm f1.8 EF-S as a secondary lens.
With the R5, they talked up the video features and downplayed that -at that time- it was the most capable full-frame stills camera ever made. It was a great video camera, but the overheating brought unwanted attention to them highlighting the video. Now we have the R3 and all they're talking about is how incredible it is as a stills camera. This is downplaying that this is one of the most capable video MILC of all time. I bought this primarily for its video, but as a motosports photographer, I just got an incredible flagship full-body camera again.
Thanks for the review… when you record 4k 120fps record audio? There is any way to use the second memory for record the audio and the CFast the video like the C70? Thanks
It’s not on the approved list yet, it’s too new for that. It might never be either, as it doesn’t have the time code and genlock features they require. But from a final image quality point of view I’m sure it would be good enough Carl
I absolutely love my EOS R3, having had it for just over a month now (in Canada). I'm just getting into video now, so glad I was able to check out this video. Thanks for your thoughts!
@@arielespiro haven't experienced any overheating at all - granted for video, I only do 4K. As a hybrid camera, it is ideal and can handle almost anything exceptionally well. My only concern (as with most new systems) is the "weather sealing," as in I always had 100% confidence with my 1Dx... whereas the R3 leaves me a bit uneasy. Granted, this is in extreme situations but they have happened (snow storms, full rain downpours, etc.).
How much dynamic range stops can we expect ? 4k 130p or 6k are cool but if it's to get blown highlights and crappy mirrorless image quality no thanks. How foes it stacks compared to a BMPCC 6k pro for ex ?
Very different cameras! The A1 is a big step up from the A7s while the FX3 is the same thing but in a more “video focused” design. Which would help your work more? Carl
Not as much of a difference as you may think, as the screen on the r5 is still very nice. But yes it’s definitely higher res. You notice it most on text and menu items rather than the photos themselves. Much clearer and sharper. Carl
It is my understanding that R5 4K video files involve such frustratingly long editing time that it makes it impractical for video use. I got the impression that this problem was as bad as overheating. Wonder if this issue is resolved with the R3? I have no experience with it, just going by RUclips reviews so any feedback you can provide would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks for the review :)
@@jordanalexander5844 Thanks Jordan ... This seems to be the consensus which means for 4K, the Canon R cameras are not suitable for practical hybrid use. Too bad.
WOW...! Did I just say wow? OMG....Did Canon just knock it out of the park....and looming in the back round, the R1... Quick, Quick. Where is my nitro, WHERE IS MY NITROGLYCERIN ?....It's the big one.....Uggggghhhhh... Just kidding. Sort of. Maybe a little. Awesome video Mr. proavtv. As always, ( for the first time ), keep up the good work and keep'em flying.
Great run through! 🙏🏾 The excellent R5 had a dealbreaker issue for me so I decided to hold out for the loosely rumoured R1! In the meantime Canon gave the R5 a couple of firmware updates that was tempting me to change my decision but then came the news of the R3 and I was committed from the first rumour! When Canon Sweden gets there first shipment, I should be one of the lucky ones to get it early. My main thoughts are whether to also buy the R5 as my video B cam and A cam for high resolution stills or wait for that rumoured R1 that should hopefully be the true hybrid camera I dream about!😉
I'm happy record limits were extended to 6 hours. I'm happy overheating has been lessened vs the R5. I'm not excited for 24 MP vs the R5's 45. I understand this is aimed for speed vs resolution. I don't use view finders. I wish it was detachable. I hope the digital record button is green in standby. When it's red in standby like the R5, sometimes I forget to hit record. I'm happy to hear that it's fairly light weight. As an off-camera strobe user, I'm curious about the converter to use older flash triggers. I was hoping for dual CFexpress cards. Dual video recording on the R5 is limited based on the SD card. It doesn't allow proxies (which would be very helpful) unless shooting RAW which I don't do. Sony's new cameras have SD/CFexpress A cards. Cool feature but I prefer the CFE Type B cards Canon uses. I just think 2 CFE cards would be better than the mixture. I'm hopeful the R1 will deliver great competition to the A1 and likely be much better. I'm also looking forward to an R5c/c50 or whatever they're going to call their c70-like full frame RF-mount model. For me, I think I'd rather get an R5 and Atomos Ninja V+ than the R3. Time will tell.
I think for a lot of people the R5 and ninja + combo will be better than the R3. Unless you need the speed and build quality of the R3. That’s where the camera really shines. Carl
Just to clarify, it can detect the subjects eyes and focus on them during video, just like the R5 can. Its the Eye control AF which doesn't work in video, where the camera tracks the operators pupils to move the focus point. Carl
This Contet Is really good. It's the Best now, about any point of R3. This is not a Cinema cam. It's probably the best run and gun device. Sad about what Canon has cut away ti sell other product lines. This is worst part of Capitalism. They all Need, all of our money.
It’s the same concept of course. But that wasn’t reliable enough really to be a professional tool. The technology has come on a long way since then! Carl
Well, this is indeed a NEW Eye EF technology, going hand in hand with multiple target tracking, and seems to work very reliably according to early reviews. If that's confirmed, it'll become a useful and used tool, unlike the first version.
This vs the C70 is a very interesting and complex discussion now. The c70 will be better for the majority, but there will be use cases where the R3 will be a better choice from a practical standpoint. Carl
@@ProAVTV tough one, this really feels like a Bcam for the C500 Mark II in my opinion. I like the oversampled 4K of the C500 Mark II, it is really beautiful. If it matches the quality of it, I would consider to buy one!
@@ProAVTV I agree, especially for RAW, full frame and more reliable AF. However, the c70 built in NDs, professional cinema features (false colors, applying luts, XLR) and DGO sensor makes it more of a cinematography oriented camera. Its all confusing with canon cameras at this point 😄!
Really? Hmm, I can’t see this in the manual. Can you direct me to where I can get confirmation on this? Planning on getting a R3. I do a lot of quick turn around video work and was planning on using normal non-log 4K 10bit
@@rMr.big13 Outside of the sensor resolution, this camera has very similar specs and price to the A1, and I don't really see any aspects that are handicapped on the R3. Not sure why you're saying it's a "bs camera"
@@thatcherfreeman exactly… the resolution …come on man 24 megapixels???? My drone shoots more than this… for $6000… are you kidding me bro???? And 6k every Tom Dick and Harry’s camera shoots 6 k now lmao…. Hell the Samsung phone shoots 8k for crying out loud… Tired of canon and their over priced crap… Done with them…. Bet ya this over heats too
For a stills focused camera, this is a big improvement for Canon so far. The fact they removed the internal recording limit is great
Absolutely. This will be a real workhorse of a camera
Carl
Sucks to those that dropped money on the R5 with its silly 30min limit. Still, I wish that the R3 had full sized HDMI, Waveforms, RAW out to the Ninja+ and the truth regarding its overheating details
Not really, the R5 is still a fantastic camera. But I do agree that it should not have a 30 minute record limit.
Carl
@@natashanicole7408 firnware removed that
@@1264-t4y firmware removed what ? the r5 recording limit?
Even though you were not allowed to show any footage, this was an excellent video. ProAV never disappoints!
Thanks! Glad you liked it
Carl
Omg, no record 30 min limit and over 2 hours of raw video recording, who is this Canon?
I know! On a mirrorless camera!
Carl
Gordon Laing got up to 6 hours of recording 4K 25p before the camera shut up due to the 6 hour recording limit
It's $6,000.
@@PhilNavidson , so where all the previous canon Pro bodies, no surprise here.
It's still using micro HDMI? That's ridiculous. This camera has room for a full-sized HDMI port.
there are lots of full hdmi to micro hdmi cables out there. why is that such a problem?
@@Miguel_Molina smaller connectors break easier
Its a good arguments to buy a R1
I haven’t paid much attention to the R3 but hearing about the long record time limit and no over heating does peak my interest!
I’m not surprised. This makes the R3 quite interesting for video work
Carl
I am selling the R3 for just $3500
You can reach out to me👆👆
It’s a 100% go for me. This camera has it all!
why are these companies bothering with 24bit audio with these big preamps. If they just used 32bit they wouldn't need preamps and level knobs
You still have the DAC to deal with, how precise it is with low level signal, what's its SNR in the analog input stage? All considered in the target market price, that is.
It's for the quick delivery cause, directly from the camera to a ftp server or streaming, I imagine. It aught to be ready for broadcasting immediately.
Hello, eos R3 - raw video slog 3, I cannot get a clear image at 800 and 1600 ISO. Do you think this is normal?
My exposure is correct, I tried at least 3 different programs. As a result, I cannot get rid of the noise.
Is there a raw workflow you can recommend?
Thanks
Waiting for the followup of this video!! Keep up the awesome work!
Jeff Cable interview in Canon Rumors:
Like myself, I do wonder why the Canon EOS R3 isn’t dual CFExpress slots. I think the market that will buy this camera is ok with spending more on fast memory cards.
Q: What’s the one thing you liked least about the R3?
Jeff Cable: The SD Card slot is slow. I was shooting RAW plus JPEG to both the CFexpress card and the SD card since I couldn’t easily open the R3’s RAW files yet and needed the JPEGs. Some people don’t know this but shooting RAW plus JPEG slows the camera down more than shooting two RAWs because the camera has to process the image twice.
Hi mate thanks so much for the review - would you choose this over the C70 for video? Seems the only reason would be for clog2 and ND filters …
We really need to test the footage before we can tell that. But my initial thoughts are that the c70 will be a better video specific tool for most users, but the R3 will certainly have environments where it would be much more suitable
The C70 is Super 35, and this is full frame. Not that there's anything wrong with Super 35, but it's something to keep in mind. My big concern for that would be that all the RF mount glass is full frame at this point. Of course, you can use the RF to EF adapter and get some EF mount APS-C glass (so EF-S) that would be more appropriate. I would use the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 EF-S lens primarily if I were to get a C70 with the Sigma 50-100mm f1.8 EF-S as a secondary lens.
canon shutting down the audio in 120fps makes me really want to get the C70. smh canon
With the R5, they talked up the video features and downplayed that -at that time- it was the most capable full-frame stills camera ever made. It was a great video camera, but the overheating brought unwanted attention to them highlighting the video. Now we have the R3 and all they're talking about is how incredible it is as a stills camera. This is downplaying that this is one of the most capable video MILC of all time. I bought this primarily for its video, but as a motosports photographer, I just got an incredible flagship full-body camera again.
R3 in action ruclips.net/video/gq6pGxlavms/видео.html
Thanks for the review… when you record 4k 120fps record audio? There is any way to use the second memory for record the audio and the CFast the video like the C70?
Thanks
no audio for 120fps was the deal breaker for me. makes me want to get the c70
@@nicehoopers I have the C70 its AMAZING, but i want to change the R5 and i was looking the R3... thanks! =)
wow! how is the 4k120? and the file size of it? i really need it for bc i record sports
@@nicehoopers much better than the R5, but the AF isnt so good like the R5.
Have internal ND (I LOVE THAT). Super recomendable!
big question. does the c70 record audio in high frame rates?
Canon c70 or R3 for video? Which one do you like?
Why does it say 4K in RAW when it is supposed to be 6K?
Is there dual native ISO for extended dynamic range? If not, it falls short in the video department.
Can I use the R3 to shoot videos for Netflix?
It’s not on the approved list yet, it’s too new for that.
It might never be either, as it doesn’t have the time code and genlock features they require.
But from a final image quality point of view I’m sure it would be good enough
Carl
Love you detailed summary. Navigating canon’s bipolar video modes is tough.
The R3’s form factor for photographers is going to be a favorite!
I absolutely love my EOS R3, having had it for just over a month now (in Canada). I'm just getting into video now, so glad I was able to check out this video. Thanks for your thoughts!
Glad you like it!
Carl
hello Sir, any overheating so until today? 6k 60p and 4k 120p overheats at any point?
@@arielespiro haven't experienced any overheating at all - granted for video, I only do 4K. As a hybrid camera, it is ideal and can handle almost anything exceptionally well. My only concern (as with most new systems) is the "weather sealing," as in I always had 100% confidence with my 1Dx... whereas the R3 leaves me a bit uneasy. Granted, this is in extreme situations but they have happened (snow storms, full rain downpours, etc.).
The important question is
Can you change white balance while recording video like every other camera brand ?
4:45 Did you mean that you had the R3 recording? Is the RAW video 12 bit?
i was just about to ask that. confused me. But since the r5 doesn't do any 6k raw (only 8k), he must have meant r3
Below the HDMI Port there's a network port. what does it do?
An exciting camera with improved AF and unlimited RAW!
Does it offer proxy recording in normal 4K 10bit mode or only 6K raw?
Bother EOS R3 photo camera and video' camera ..?
Great video , but still somethings missing!! Peaking? 60fps in 6k? 4k 120fps in RAW?
It has peaking, but it doesn’t have 60p in 6K or 120 in 4K raw. The only camera in canons lineup to do that right now is the c300 III
Carl
@@ProAVTV It does have 60p in 6K RAW
How much dynamic range stops can we expect ? 4k 130p or 6k are cool but if it's to get blown highlights and crappy mirrorless image quality no thanks. How foes it stacks compared to a BMPCC 6k pro for ex ?
We will have to wait for a final product unit before we can test things like that I’m afraid.
Carl
Why no mention of the video FPS in the different resolutions?
I did mention it briefly.
6K raw up to 30p
4K mp4 up to 120p
HD mp4 up to 120p
Carl
@@ProAVTV o dang. I guess I missed it. Thanks for the reply.
Super summary, especially given a pre-production camera, Carl. Will the R3 track focus in 4K 120p mode?
Am i right to think that you can transfer footage via the ethernet port ❓
An unrelated question. I have an A7SIII that goes out filming nearly every day. I would like a spare, shall I get an FX3? or A1?
Very different cameras! The A1 is a big step up from the A7s while the FX3 is the same thing but in a more “video focused” design. Which would help your work more?
Carl
@@ProAVTV I don’t know I work well with the S3 and the only pictures I take are for instagram self-promotion
@@dallatorretdu you don’t need an A1 for that. Waste of money
Where is the follow up video??
Thanks for a well thought out review.
Does the doubled LCD resolution makes a visible difference?
Not as much of a difference as you may think, as the screen on the r5 is still very nice. But yes it’s definitely higher res. You notice it most on text and menu items rather than the photos themselves. Much clearer and sharper.
Carl
no one is talking about dynamic range. Must be the weak point.
Yes, it probably has anger issues...
We can’t show or test the video quality yet, that’s why.
Carl
What you use do record this video? Thanks
How are about the DR? compare to C70
It is my understanding that R5 4K video files involve such frustratingly long editing time that it makes it impractical for video use. I got the impression that this problem was as bad as overheating. Wonder if this issue is resolved with the R3? I have no experience with it, just going by RUclips reviews so any feedback you can provide would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks for the review :)
I have an EOS R and R6 and I hate the R6 H.265 files. They are so hard to work with even on my I9 MacBook Pro
@@jordanalexander5844 Thanks Jordan ... This seems to be the consensus which means for 4K, the Canon R cameras are not suitable for practical hybrid use. Too bad.
WOW...!
Did I just say wow?
OMG....Did Canon just knock it out of the park....and looming in the back round, the R1...
Quick, Quick. Where is my nitro, WHERE IS MY NITROGLYCERIN ?....It's the big one.....Uggggghhhhh...
Just kidding. Sort of. Maybe a little. Awesome video Mr. proavtv.
As always, ( for the first time ), keep up the good work and keep'em flying.
Great run through! 🙏🏾
The excellent R5 had a dealbreaker issue for me so I decided to hold out for the loosely rumoured R1! In the meantime Canon gave the R5 a couple of firmware updates that was tempting me to change my decision but then came the news of the R3 and I was committed from the first rumour! When Canon Sweden gets there first shipment, I should be one of the lucky ones to get it early. My main thoughts are whether to also buy the R5 as my video B cam and A cam for high resolution stills or wait for that rumoured R1 that should hopefully be the true hybrid camera I dream about!😉
I am selling the R3 for just $3500
You can reach out to me👆👆
Is the wobble as bad as in the r5 or non existent
What do you mean by ‘the wobble’?
Carl
ProAV TV maybe he meant rolling shutter lol
I meant when paired with the rf 15-35 f2.8 is the wobble as bad as it is in the r5 when doing video?
New sensor design should open amazing new cameras.
I'm happy record limits were extended to 6 hours.
I'm happy overheating has been lessened vs the R5.
I'm not excited for 24 MP vs the R5's 45.
I understand this is aimed for speed vs resolution.
I don't use view finders. I wish it was detachable.
I hope the digital record button is green in standby.
When it's red in standby like the R5, sometimes I forget to hit record.
I'm happy to hear that it's fairly light weight.
As an off-camera strobe user, I'm curious about the converter to use older flash triggers.
I was hoping for dual CFexpress cards. Dual video recording on the R5 is limited based on the SD card. It doesn't allow proxies (which would be very helpful) unless shooting RAW which I don't do.
Sony's new cameras have SD/CFexpress A cards. Cool feature but I prefer the CFE Type B cards Canon uses.
I just think 2 CFE cards would be better than the mixture.
I'm hopeful the R1 will deliver great competition to the A1 and likely be much better.
I'm also looking forward to an R5c/c50 or whatever they're going to call their c70-like full frame RF-mount model.
For me, I think I'd rather get an R5 and Atomos Ninja V+ than the R3. Time will tell.
I think for a lot of people the R5 and ninja + combo will be better than the R3. Unless you need the speed and build quality of the R3. That’s where the camera really shines.
Carl
You can’t leave the R3 on 4K 120fps for more than a few minutes without it overheating
Oh man probably will just wait for an R1 or R5C or at the very least I'll wait until a firmware update where the R3 gets eye AF for video
Just to clarify, it can detect the subjects eyes and focus on them during video, just like the R5 can.
Its the Eye control AF which doesn't work in video, where the camera tracks the operators pupils to move the focus point.
Carl
Waiting for your thoughts on the ProRes the iPhone 13 Pro in the further video!
I’d love to try it! I’m wondering if it gets around the internal sharpening and noise reduction of the iphones which always looks awful
Carl
For fucks sake! You are comparing a camera to a phone? ???
The truest hybrid mirrorless in the world.
Love your video 😍📸🇰🇭
R3 can shoot 1080p
This Contet Is really good. It's the Best now, about any point of R3. This is not a Cinema cam.
It's probably the best run and gun device.
Sad about what Canon has cut away ti sell other product lines. This is worst part of Capitalism.
They all Need, all of our money.
Can you shoot 4k raw?
I am selling the R3 for just $3500
You can reach out to me👆👆
'This exciting new Eye AF technology'... Not so much. My EOS3 had eye AF many years ago.
It’s the same concept of course. But that wasn’t reliable enough really to be a professional tool. The technology has come on a long way since then!
Carl
Well, this is indeed a NEW Eye EF technology, going hand in hand with multiple target tracking, and seems to work very reliably according to early reviews. If that's confirmed, it'll become a useful and used tool, unlike the first version.
@@ProAVTV well I'm really glad they're giving it another go - I love the concept.
I’m r5 user , and I won’t trust this series for video…..
The Canon C70 is still the way to go for video !
This vs the C70 is a very interesting and complex discussion now. The c70 will be better for the majority, but there will be use cases where the R3 will be a better choice from a practical standpoint.
Carl
@@ProAVTV tough one, this really feels like a Bcam for the C500 Mark II in my opinion. I like the oversampled 4K of the C500 Mark II, it is really beautiful. If it matches the quality of it, I would consider to buy one!
It’s a good point! We will have to compare its video to the c500 II when possible
Carl
@@ProAVTV I agree, especially for RAW, full frame and more reliable AF. However, the c70 built in NDs, professional cinema features (false colors, applying luts, XLR) and DGO sensor makes it more of a cinematography oriented camera. Its all confusing with canon cameras at this point 😄!
No 10bit unless you use log 🤮
The cripple hammer strikes again
Really? Hmm, I can’t see this in the manual. Can you direct me to where I can get confirmation on this? Planning on getting a R3. I do a lot of quick turn around video work and was planning on using normal non-log 4K 10bit
Another bs camera….$6000…. Is this a joke?
It's for professional, obviously not for you
@@Henry_44 lmao…. Did I hurt lil canon fan boys feelings🙁…. Btw I shoot Arri and canon … you moron
@@Henry_44 and I’d buy an Alpha 1 all day over this crap for this price. Will fail jus like the R5 bs
@@rMr.big13 Outside of the sensor resolution, this camera has very similar specs and price to the A1, and I don't really see any aspects that are handicapped on the R3. Not sure why you're saying it's a "bs camera"
@@thatcherfreeman exactly… the resolution …come on man 24 megapixels???? My drone shoots more than this… for $6000… are you kidding me bro???? And 6k every Tom Dick and Harry’s camera shoots 6 k now lmao…. Hell the Samsung phone shoots 8k for crying out loud… Tired of canon and their over priced crap… Done with them…. Bet ya this over heats too
Drop test? Anyone? 😁 Or mby a little torture test? 🤏 🥺 Cmon 😁