Hey man I don’t know if you remember me I’m the silver player guy and I’ve been using kiri Lucio and Juno and it’s been going great and I was wondering if I should pick up zenyatta to use because one he’s one of my favorites and two he will be nice for poke comps if the other support goes a main support
@@taytvclub sticking with 3 heroes is not a hard and fast rule, it's just a tip to help climb because you're getting in a ton of reps of the same heroes. If you like Zen you should play Zen. I also think Zen is pretty strong right now, just be cautious of your positioning make sure you're always near cover
Juno is extremely strong. I definitely suggest having Juno in your back pocket as a pick. I believe from one of your comments on another video you said you were a Silver 5 player. With that in mind Juno does not get the same value. What makes Juno especially strong outside of sheer healing numbers is the speed ring and the ultimate. Thankfully the speed ring, no matter where you place it, will always benefit you, but if you're allies aren't using it it's a bit of a waste. To add to that if your team won't play inside of the ultimate it loses a lot of value. The big benefit to Juno ult is it can be a guaranteed team fight win button, provided it's used by your team. In lower silver the coordination is necessarily there but if you can adjust your playstyle and play around your team as best as possible she will offer exceptional value. Juno is also a bit less intensive mechanically than someone like Ana, so depending on your mechanics she may be a better pick than Ana who I think is the best support right now. TLDR Juno is strong, if your team uses the speed ring and ult you will excel using Juno
You certainly can use her, in fact might be good to get the reps in, but if notice your team isn't utilizing the speed ring and ultimate it may be worth swapping. Quite honestly through Bronze, Silver, Gold, and even Plat to an extent, Moira could carry you if you enjoy her playstyle. I'd say your best selections through the medal ranks would be Moira, Kiri, and Juno (provided your team utilizes her abilities) Though if your mechanical skill is decent at the moment I think Ana is the best pick for supports, but if you don't hit a lot of shots, sleeps, and nades, definitely better to grind some QP on Ana to improve
Sojourn definitely an S. The buffs she received to the disruptor charge building the rail gun is massive, helping her have charged rail gun shots way more frequently than before which is how she deals the most amount of her damage. And Sombra did die, at least the Sombra everyone grew to either love or hate. She is in a very awkward place in the game and doesn't really feel like she fits in any team comp. her escape being tied to her engagement tool is extremely rough to play with. She feels best playing in a brawl/poke style like Cassidy or Soldier but those two just offer significant more value than Sombra does in that role. The only saving grace for Sombra is the Ult is still fantastic but it really feels like you're just playing for the Ult and nothing else
@ @ do you play sombra? Sombras escape isn’t necessarily tied to her engagement tool, you can easily attack people towards the end of stealth and have her tp up for escape. It’s on a very low cooldown of 7 seconds. Stealth now has 1 second of downtime, but can’t be interrupted by spy checking. This is a huge buff to stealth in many ways, making translocator a much stronger escape than previously. Perma stealth is basically still here, just be out of sight for that one measly second. Saying this change warrants a fall to F tier is crazy. She also got a myriad of other buffs, including more damage and a strong passive. You are prisoner of the community overreaction Sombra now just needs to spam her teleport off cooldown now to be stealthed, making her less susceptible to spy check damage inconsistency forcing her out. Instead of being susceptible to being revealed, she now can’t ever be revealed, she is just forced pseudo reveal her whereabouts with constant teleport audio cues. How Sombra flows now: Translocate against a wall out of audible range -> stealth super speed up to someone -> attack towards end of stealth, maybe kill -> translocator is now off cooldown, teleport out of combat in the air. You can’t be revealed after your escape now, so you are basically out free if you didn’t immediately die. Repeat.
I have been trying the Sombra changes since they launched and this is my own personal findings. I do my best not to let other community thoughts effect my decisions. Tier lists, are complete personal opinion. This is how I feel things fall. I appreciate the debate. If you're finding Sombra useful and helping you win games, awesome! This is just how I feel. On the other hand Sojourn 100000% S tier. Has been going crazy for me personally
@@VargonDraxar yeah but tbh dps heros with more uptime like soldier were better than Sombra before the patch, she wasn’t really that good. overbuff stats made that pretty clear.
Really the biggest issue is Widowmaker. Older Sombra helped easily keep her in check. It's a bit more difficult now to stop her dominance. But I'm sure Blizzard is taking a look at Widow right now cause she's been fairly oppressive
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Hey man I don’t know if you remember me I’m the silver player guy and I’ve been using kiri Lucio and Juno and it’s been going great and I was wondering if I should pick up zenyatta to use because one he’s one of my favorites and two he will be nice for poke comps if the other support goes a main support
Should I use him or just stick with 3?
@@taytvclub sticking with 3 heroes is not a hard and fast rule, it's just a tip to help climb because you're getting in a ton of reps of the same heroes. If you like Zen you should play Zen. I also think Zen is pretty strong right now, just be cautious of your positioning make sure you're always near cover
@@VargonDraxar ok thank you this helps like always lol
Hog not in S tier is a crime
Well then lock me up haha
@@VargonDraxarLMAO
Hey me again I see a lot of junk in top tiers does that mean that I should be playing Juno no matter what?
Juno*
Juno is extremely strong. I definitely suggest having Juno in your back pocket as a pick. I believe from one of your comments on another video you said you were a Silver 5 player. With that in mind Juno does not get the same value. What makes Juno especially strong outside of sheer healing numbers is the speed ring and the ultimate. Thankfully the speed ring, no matter where you place it, will always benefit you, but if you're allies aren't using it it's a bit of a waste. To add to that if your team won't play inside of the ultimate it loses a lot of value. The big benefit to Juno ult is it can be a guaranteed team fight win button, provided it's used by your team. In lower silver the coordination is necessarily there but if you can adjust your playstyle and play around your team as best as possible she will offer exceptional value. Juno is also a bit less intensive mechanically than someone like Ana, so depending on your mechanics she may be a better pick than Ana who I think is the best support right now. TLDR Juno is strong, if your team uses the speed ring and ult you will excel using Juno
@@VargonDraxar k so what I’ve taken away is that to keep juno in mind but don’t use her that much in silver to whatever am I right?
You certainly can use her, in fact might be good to get the reps in, but if notice your team isn't utilizing the speed ring and ultimate it may be worth swapping. Quite honestly through Bronze, Silver, Gold, and even Plat to an extent, Moira could carry you if you enjoy her playstyle. I'd say your best selections through the medal ranks would be Moira, Kiri, and Juno (provided your team utilizes her abilities) Though if your mechanical skill is decent at the moment I think Ana is the best pick for supports, but if you don't hit a lot of shots, sleeps, and nades, definitely better to grind some QP on Ana to improve
@@VargonDraxar so when I get out of metal ranks I should play my favorites or should I just play the best
Sojourn S tier? Sombra F tier? Y’all act like that hero died.
Sojourn definitely an S. The buffs she received to the disruptor charge building the rail gun is massive, helping her have charged rail gun shots way more frequently than before which is how she deals the most amount of her damage. And Sombra did die, at least the Sombra everyone grew to either love or hate. She is in a very awkward place in the game and doesn't really feel like she fits in any team comp. her escape being tied to her engagement tool is extremely rough to play with. She feels best playing in a brawl/poke style like Cassidy or Soldier but those two just offer significant more value than Sombra does in that role. The only saving grace for Sombra is the Ult is still fantastic but it really feels like you're just playing for the Ult and nothing else
@ @ do you play sombra? Sombras escape isn’t necessarily tied to her engagement tool, you can easily attack people towards the end of stealth and have her tp up for escape. It’s on a very low cooldown of 7 seconds.
Stealth now has 1 second of downtime, but can’t be interrupted by spy checking. This is a huge buff to stealth in many ways, making translocator a much stronger escape than previously. Perma stealth is basically still here, just be out of sight for that one measly second. Saying this change warrants a fall to F tier is crazy. She also got a myriad of other buffs, including more damage and a strong passive. You are prisoner of the community overreaction
Sombra now just needs to spam her teleport off cooldown now to be stealthed, making her less susceptible to spy check damage inconsistency forcing her out. Instead of being susceptible to being revealed, she now can’t ever be revealed, she is just forced pseudo reveal her whereabouts with constant teleport audio cues.
How Sombra flows now:
Translocate against a wall out of audible range -> stealth super speed up to someone -> attack towards end of stealth, maybe kill -> translocator is now off cooldown, teleport out of combat in the air. You can’t be revealed after your escape now, so you are basically out free if you didn’t immediately die. Repeat.
I have been trying the Sombra changes since they launched and this is my own personal findings. I do my best not to let other community thoughts effect my decisions. Tier lists, are complete personal opinion. This is how I feel things fall. I appreciate the debate. If you're finding Sombra useful and helping you win games, awesome! This is just how I feel. On the other hand Sojourn 100000% S tier. Has been going crazy for me personally
@@VargonDraxar yeah but tbh dps heros with more uptime like soldier were better than Sombra before the patch, she wasn’t really that good. overbuff stats made that pretty clear.
Really the biggest issue is Widowmaker. Older Sombra helped easily keep her in check. It's a bit more difficult now to stop her dominance. But I'm sure Blizzard is taking a look at Widow right now cause she's been fairly oppressive