Carl Jung on God and the Mystery of Existence
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- How did the great mythopoetic psychiatrist, Carl Jung, view God?
When Jung was asked whether or not he believed in God in a now-famous 1959 BBC interview near the end of his life, he mused, “I don’t believe, I know.”
But what did he mean by that? What view of God does a lifetime of inquiry into medicine, the psyche, and the esoteric lead to?
As we’ll see in In this transmission, Jung’s view on the great mystery existence is both compelling and cryptic. A way of seeing that opens a door to massive philosophical questions.
Jung's Full letter to The Listener:
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The Posthumous Good Housekeeping Article:
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Another article on Jung's views:
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:37 Jung's spiritual background
04:13 Jung's thoughts on god
05:43 Jung's god in his own words
06:40 Interpreting Jung's statement on god
11:30 Jung's 'God above God,' Abraxas, and more esoteric thoughts
12:56 Jung's secret gnostic text: Seven Sermons to the Dead and the Red Book
14:48 Summary and important final thoughts
What I hear Jung saying about "God" is that our consciousness is an illusion and we will only really find him beyond that in our unconscious which is really what runs our lives. Oddly, I have only experienced "God" when in deep pain while looking for answers and it has always had a profound effect on my life afterwards. "God" to me, is our spiritual essence and is always internal and beyond our consciousness. You will never find answers in the conscious thought.
Finally.
Someone's recognizes Jung.
Thank you for this.
Really?? Have you been waiting awhile, under a rock perhaps?
About a decade ago, i was soo curious of my own being, in terms of my personality that i made an effort to self diagnose myself, INFJ. Now, i am here just recently learning about Carl Jung. Its a lot thats happened in between now and then, I feel god, he gives me chills, he makes me feel him. Things happen on my call, numerical signs, one eyed cars following me everywhere, and i can call it each time. I am scared because the term "Gang stalking" ive been looking into these past months and i am not sure if it is what it is. The synchronity of things, in everything i do, and witness my mind points to a divine god. I can feel gods presence. I spend my time mostly in nature, by myself, like ive always have since i was just a kid. I was never one to speak about god, but i always strived to do only good in everything. This spiritual awakening all happened after separating with my wife(evil got to her), got kicked out my own house, lost my job, my dog, I isolated by choice. Now im here, still alive, and slowly healing on gods wisdom and power.
You are not alone, we are calling to follow our mission. We are a star having human experience.
A young man I know who recently obtained a master’s degree in counseling told me that among academic psychologists today, the easiest way to derail your career is by mentioning the name of CG Jung. I mentioned this to a retired Jungian analyst I know who replied that he wasn’t surprised. Jung, he said, had predicted it.
What do you and/or your cohorts think of that? Your observation seems to be consistent within the context of a culture that has become vehemently *anti*-religious and deistic.
@@TimeWaster_Elite I think that a lot of the animus (no pun intended) against Jung among academic psychologists stems from their considering Jung and his psychology non-scientific. Whatever the reason, it’s nothing new. I went to college (dare I say it?) over 50 years ago, and even then I recall a psychology professor dismiss Jungian theory as “metaphysical.” At one point she used the word I’ll simply abbreviate as BS. It wasn’t until several years after I’d graduated and took a class on Myth, Dreams, and Symbols that I myself started to understand and appreciate Jung. I entered analysis with the course’s instructor, the now-retired analyst I mentioned in my original comment, and the rest is history.
You believe in GOD _ off to prison u go
@@Kjt853Jung managed to get a grip of what reality is, far deeper than science can (not really) imagine…
Studying ancient philosophies and scripture while having cultivated a scientific mind with his psychology background, gave him wisdom and insights a common psychologist could and won’t ever fathom….
Not to dismiss the scientists and they truly help, but still the common understanding of things is very limited.
@@Alex722 I agree. I have no argument with science, but “scientism,” an insistence that only what is scientifically verifiable is worth consideration, strikes me as a stance more philosophical than scientific. One can, of course, go to the other extreme and see signs and omens in every fallen leaf, but neither extreme justifies the other.
Jung has actually brought me closer to my Judaism because under the surface, much of gnostic/jungian philosophy can be found within the Jewish Kabbalah and its interpretations.
Anyway, Jung’s musings are a blessing in this society of marketing and propaganda (same thing I guess).
It’s definitely all connected ☯️
@@THIRDEYEDROPStruth! Thank you for making Jung so accessible 🙏 I get excited every time you post a video, as they are very impactful.
Same for me and Islam🙏🫶🥰 this channel is so awesome 🥲
@@THIRDEYEDROPSin what sense is he a Christian then? Only insofar as he was brought up with the symbols and myth?
We are not living, We are here to play and create/ We are co-creators. We are expressions of God.
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I really enjoy this kind of videos. I think that Carl Jung and his work are amazing. I would like watch more videos like this. Thank you very much for give us this content every week.
Thanks my friend. I’ve got several other Jung videos in the same style. Hope you’ll check them out.
Love your work my friend. It's always an inspiring watch. Thank you.
Really appreciate that thanks!
The Matter with Things Book by Iain McGilchrist will also help you understand how the brain works and why this stuff is split off in the mind. Iain has brilliant RUclips videos on his site that are a series of interviews explaining the book and the earlier one 'The Master and His Emissary'. I am enjoying your journey. Jung got me started 30 years ago and I think Vedanta and Iain tied it all up for me.
Love him!
I now look forward to all your videos, got the bell notifcations on for your channel! keep it up! :D
My brilliant late brother graduated from Carl Yung Institite in NYC. He had degrees in philosophy and physchology. Even though brought up in a Christian home he really never practiced religion. He was a psychologist who helped his patients through their dreams. He had a great understanding of
dreams. He changed and started going to church. Watching this video explains to me why he did so.
I love the idea of your cover and wallpaper. Its really creative, best one I saw. Video is great! You deserve much more attention!
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Impeccable editing per visuals/quotes/background music.
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Loved the video 💯. Thank you
My experience of depth keeps getting more profound, and you, " third eye drop" do raise the bar... you provide absolute satiety for philosophical minds... Indeed, there is no limit to the great beyond, happy to take my scoop from the eternal river of Mystery and Esotericm. What a transcending world !
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Go Jung, Go! The transcendence of binary/split perception seems more important than anything I've ever studied/experienced, and the mystery of that non-dualistic viewpoint seems to point toward solutions across our world and minds. Reducing that holistic truth into words is where things get messy, but I remind myself that if we point toward it in abstraction without trying to touch it explicitly (and hence ruin the experience of the whole concept)-the receiving end will hopefully look toward where the finger points, not the finger itself.
I really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work 😊
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Your channels great. Thank you very much.
Marvelous content and you have remarkably made me understand this topic. Thanks.
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I hope you reach millions with the content that you are making, really enjoy it, thank you.
Thank you so much!
Jung remains one of my touchstones on my journey. I love that that seems to be true for you as well. And yet your work broaches much more and varied. I enjoy your videos very much.
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Carl Gustav Jung Memories, Dreams, Reflections. After this book, I felt my hero Jung was psychotic.
Amazing take . 🙏🏼
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Every time you talk about Jung makes me want to read The Red Book more and more 😅
It’s incredible. Worth getting the big expensive one if you can afford it. 📕
21.6 k. Though this channel is for the selected few I foresee this number is going to be on the rise.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for your great work in sharing the concepts of Jung’s visions on God. This video is a great contribution to the society and hopefully more and more people will appreciate your content! 🫶
🤝thank you my friend!
you've very quickly become one of my favorite podcasters.
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Concise & well communicated ~ keep doing the good good ♥️🙏🏼⛩️💫
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Nice video. Please also make videos on Joseph campbell.
Glad you amended your pronunciation to the correct for Jung. Great channel. Keep up the good work. You will find Advaita Vedanta a good fit with Jung. The Swami of the NY Vedanta society is brilliant and has debated with Bernardo Karstrup. Swami has fantastic RUclips videos that are so mind opening and a giggle at the same time. Einstein said he believed in Spinoza's god. Jung similar in some areas. "God "- consciousness as an ontological primitive - pantheism. As well explained in non dualist Advaita Vedanta
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This is really really good
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Wow. Really leads me to continue to put faith in that great cosmic force that goes by many names, who many of us know as God, that no one religion is absolutely right nor wrong, it's just interpretation after cultural interpretation of how to create balance with the glory and shadow within to create balance outside of the self, to inspire balance in the universe n to b closer to that great cosmic force, however u wish to interpret n interact with it. Its important to have faith in a force greater than the human ego, vital even, for to have no faith of any kind is to give into chaotic oblivion. May we all find God n become balanced within.
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Thanks for this great video. The more i see Jung"s interview the more i question it's accuracy and if he was truly answering the question of God. There is definitely some editing and not a flow of one shot from start to finish, so i feel it's unclear what he is truly answering when he says I KNOW. As the word god is not used. 🤔
He elaborates a lot more in the letter I talk about in the video.
I know there IS a “Great Mystery “ . As limited sentient being, I am too stupid to grasp, even begin to apprehend this Great Mystery. And I think it’s safe to say that SO IS EVERYONE ELSE.
For sure, yet so many claim to know the truth
thank you for this
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Thank you lovely : )
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Deep. We’ll done
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Believing that God exist is different than knowing that God exist , there are two different subjects. There is also a vast difference between knowing God”s existence by evidence and personal experience versus believing in God”s existence by rote memory, conformity, or convenience or religious believe . I personally believe that he knew some thing greater existed but he did not know what it is , we call it God. I myself do not believe , I know for fact that something exist that people call God based on my experiences , I don’t call it any name but I know something is trying to communicate with me via synchronicity, dreams and psychedelic experiences , it’s a beautiful mystical journey that I’ve been in it for years , I’m discovering myself and this great energy called God at the same time each step and I wonder if at the end I realize that I was “IT” the hole time 😊
Well said!
Human beings , we give ourselves too much credit to attempt an understanding of a God or Creator . There are forces in nature that explain it but we are unable to accept it and actually war with it, I just know , now that I understand and you cannot explain. This is the difference between faith and religion. So, I don't believe , I just know makes perfect sense to me . Excellent podcast
Hypo = below, Stasis = rest.
= Foundation.
Ace!
it is what it is... I know, I don't have to believe, I know.
What was his thoughts on the bible??
9:57 and 10:17 true
I need that book!! 😭. Cant find it anywhere
Which book?
@@THIRDEYEDROPSthe red book 📕
@@THIRDEYEDROPSI have the readers edition 😭
Could it be that there is only one god above us while the lower god is a symbol of mankind’s potentiality for good? Seems to me like all of these spiritual philosophers have been inspired by a miracle and left to make sense of it. Would you say that Jung’s philosophy is an amalgamation of the most legitimate among those ideas that have been conjured up by these transcendent experiences? Sorry, I’m a bit of a noob when it comes to the literature and am just trying to figure out if his books are the right place to direct my focus or if you’re gonna tell me everything I need to know🤞👂🤤
Hey my friend great questions. Could it be? Sure! A lot of nuance required when it comes to these conversations. I think Jung’s take is a great one. But I’m not sure if he ever gets more direct with his personal thoughts than what I pulled from in this video. His Collected Works are absolutely massive so there could be more. Either way, his writing is not super easy to approach, so keep that in mind. A lot of this hinges on what we mean when we say “god.” I briefly mentioned Platonism/Neoplatonism, in this video. I would encourage you to investigate there, too.
The Jung quotes state "hypostasis" not hypothesis - there is a big difference between the two.
Yes, I specifically talk about that word in the video and what it means…
When a person received the Revelation (personal singularity), we just must say I know God
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Are the non dual conciousness or bramhan of advaita philosophy or what the Buddhists call "void/shunya" & jung's collective uncocncious the same thing ?
It’s complicated, a lot of nuance needed, but I think we could draw comparisons between Jung’s capital S Self and some of those concepts. Check out my video on the Hermes archetype, Jung straight up says Hermes is a personification of the collective unconscious, so that’s immensely interesting.
Abraxas. Pleroma. We name which that cannot be named.
Jung's work, at it's core, screams the concept of Tawhid in Islam. Oneness. Wholeness. Holiness.
I’ll have to look into that one!
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Honestly speaking, I find it kind of funny how the concept of morality being seen as subjective is controversial. I could most definitely go into detail, but I feel like it’s almost intuitive to some extent, especially when you look around at the multifaceted nature of everything ranging from concepts and objects to living things, it’s like we all accept that life is fundamentally grey until we get to the topic of morality. If morality was as black and white as it seems, there would be no use for courts. Courts are there because morality isn’t that simple, and can be decided by many different factors, factors that they themselves can be interpreted differently on their own.
I certainly agree on the complexity. This is one of those things I wish I could talk to Jung about directly for clarification. I actually may think differently on this point, but it depends - Does he actually believe morality is totally relative or is he saying it’s so complex it might as well be? If it’s the former, that basically flies in the face of almost any spiritual ontology that holds “god” as fundamentally “good.” Obviously that would apply to all modern major religions, but also platonic thought which equates the highest transcendent oneness with pure goodness as well. Of course this leads to more questions like what “goodness” means… so yes complicated lol.
@@THIRDEYEDROPS I sort of came up with a little theory for morality, it first begins with the recognition that morality exists in the same realm as the iphone, it’s a human construct that has no discernible meaning outside of our societies. The next is the idea of realities. It kind of plays on the idea of superposition. Like people are capable of existing in many different states at once, or realities, such as the reality (societal standards) that you experience in highschool, or the reality of a gladiator arena. Because people are not bound to the rules of one reality, there is no objective good and bad because there are realities where they also exist in where those things can be flipped on its head. Next is goes into this thingy that I call lego theory, where good and bad depends on the objective of a certain reality. Like building a lego police station, if the goal of the reality was to build a lego police station but instead build a humvee or something, that would be objectively wrong by the expectations of that reality, but there would be nothing wrong with the humvee itself. I’m not even gonna lie, I am not the smartest mf in the room so I probably didn’t explain that the best, but I hope it gave you something to think about or maybe a good read at the very least 🤞🏾
Made a gpt prompt that catalyzes the end of Hell-
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Yes, we must explore him more in the future!
Does a serious blast of mushrooms open the pineal gland and get you to the same conclusion?
They can be a path toward a very profound experience of the mystery when used responsibly.
@@THIRDEYEDROPS ….. thanks for the response.
The reason I ask is a work colleague/friend has had profound and life changing experience with it and is recommending I do the same. I can’t even begin to explain what he believes it has revealed to him, won’t even try!
I believe this video touches on the same thing.
It’s just I can’t figure out if he’s completely right or completely nuts!🤣🤣
There is no way to understand what Carl was saying with the intellect and mind - one must learn to inquire on the source of the mind and ego to go into the silent zone of being where your individual small I unites back to its source to allow there to be that God experience which can’t be spoken of yet experienced absorbed in the present
I know all of This God is the 2nd def of 🙌 Twilight becareful wit the words u choose However
What he meant is that beliefs are only bridges to knowledge. Beliefs don't have much epistemological value. Like many others, Jung had a direct experience of the Divine. He no longer believes...he knows the Divine is a fact. To a person who has never experienced the Divine directly they find Jung's statement arrogant or hubris and can't wrap their heads around it. Jung is just stating a fact. I am like Jung...I have had the direct experience of the Divine. I no longer believe...I know.
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