Falconry: Is the Brown falcon the missing piece?
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024
- In this falconry video I discuss the Australian brown falcon, the aplomado falcon, and the New Zealand falcon.
This is not my regular weekly video. I have been sick all week and while doing research with my free time. have been pondering some interesting possibilities about the brown falcon.
brown falcons are an incredibly versatile species found in Australia, New Guinea and Tasmania. This video is not a species spotlight, but is rather a hypothesis and discussion on taxonomic relations.
The falcons and accipiters of the indo-pacific region are among the most poorly researched raptors on earth. Yet some of their radiation and genetics are truly fascinating.
I made this video in hopes of generating some discussion. I welcome all views and thoughts on this video, but especially am hoping to get people to weigh in who have had experience with New Zealand falcons and Brown Falcons directly.
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Great video Ben. I’m not a biologist like you but I am very interested in taxonomic/genetic relationships between different species. I think there’s still much to be learned. Keep these types of videos coming man!
Dear Ben. Thanks for all you do for Falconry. Happy Holidays.
Feel better soon Ben! Interesting video!
Excellent video. I spent 4 years in south west Australia doing research on honeyeaters. I am now back in NZ. I almost daily saw brown falcons. They are the only falcon I can think of that soar with a pronounced dihedral. They are highly adaptable and occupy a broad niche. The NZ falcon also occupies a broad niche and is highly adaptable in the types of habitat it hunts and the prey it takes, although not as broad as the brown falcon. The NZF is not adaptable in its nest site selection and still appears restricted in most cases to indigenous forest and high elevation grasslands.
All awesome new information I’ve never heard!!! Thank you so much for sharing your insight and observations! This is exactly why I made this video. Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank you for your insight, loved the video and the food for thought.
Awesome videos everyday, it is becoming a routine for me, i make tea and im gonna watch you
Merci beaucoup pour video! 😊👍👍👍
Interesting video!
Great video Ben, I am a Tasmanian that just loves raptors and I can tell you that from what I’ve seen brown falcons don’t really act like falcons at all. I’ve seen a lot of them chasing insects and rodents, but not really birds. Often they will be sitting on a fence post doing sweeps of a field looking for prey on the ground. They are also very common and can be seen all over the place. Those are just my observations anyway
Awesome info!!!!!! Do they ever hover in one place?
@@benwoodrufffalconry certainly they hover but use the wind to do so more than say a kestrel might need to
What a pretty bird is that! 😁I thought australian bushfire birds are actually kites...
Very interesting as allways, thank you❤️
There are 2 species of Kite, the Black and the Whistling, that are also known to spread fires.
I agree with this, thought it was more a black kite known for the fire carrying
Birds of prey that live in rainforests are more brightly coloured than the ones that live in arid enviroments without mattering how close to the equator you get. Excellent examples of this would be the Bat Falcon, Orange-Breasted Falcon and Taita Falcons but by far my favourite example is the Indian Black Peregrine also known as the Black Shaheen, this is one of the largest subspecies of peregrine and also one of the most unusually coloured. If you look at paintings of this bird done by the maharajas who revered it a lot, you see that it has four different colours, black, grey, yellow and brown. Unlike most other peregrines which either have stripes, spots or bands on their chest this peregrine has a bright rusty brown belly and if you look at it from the back it is completely brightly black, but then it is not as unusual as the Babylon peregrine which looks like a lanner falcon and the Cassini peregrine which looks like a saker falcon, plus the Callid and Tundra peregrines that look like the giant falcons.
Saw an unusual falcon today. Looked like a young falcon and when it flew away the winds and belly looked burnt orange. It flew away too fast for a picture but it’s hanging out need the river so I’m going to look again tomorrow to capture a picture. It was beautiful and never saw this type of falcon in British Columbia Canada before
The Taita Falcon, Brown Falcon and the New-Zealand Falcon were often placed in the hobby falcon group however their placement is anyone's guess at worst or tentative at best. Aplomado Falcons may be descended from a Eurasian lineage that migrated to Australia and New Zealand as well as the Americas since it is very closely related to the merlin in my opinion and share merlin features like the colouration of the wings and tail. As for the Bat Falcon and Orange-Breasted Falcon they could either be related to the Peregrine or the Taita falcon of Africa.
I was so excited to find this video on your channel since I also look at Brown Falcons and wonder about their relationships to American falcon sp quite often. One thing you did not mention but I always wonder about is how similar Brown might have been to the extinct Long-legged/Cuban Kestrel (Falco kurochkini). I find the Brown's facial marking rather similar to AMKE as well and the hunting style of kurochkini was apparently highly terrestrial. I feel there could be a connection there.
Aside from that, it is fun to wonder about these broader relationships. I ID a lot of falconiformes photos on iNaturalist and I have come across juve Peregrines that almost appear to have ocelli on the backs on their heads like an AMKE. In this era of citizen science and folks submitting photographic data from around the world, all kinds of new patterns emerge.
Great stuff
So interesting! Stay curious and hope this generates some good responses.
Ben,
I was going to put you in touch with a friend of mine who was a falconer before moving to Austrailia about 30 years ago, and continued to do falconry as part of rehab efforts. However, in trying to track down contact information for him I found his obituary 11 months ago. I know he worked with black falcons (F. subniger), but my memory is fuzzy if he worked with brown falcons.
If you really want to get in touch with someone who has trained a brown falcon, I would start by contacting the raptor rehab community in Austrailia. As I recall, Western Austrailia is the state most friendly to "falconry techniques" being used.
There are lots of people with the same kind of name I think you picked him wrong.
@@keerthivasannambiraju955, no, I did not. I confirmed it was the same guy that I had been pen pals with.
I reckon you're right mate. I'm fortunate enough to work with them in demonstrations. Brown falcons are very un-falcon like.
I have never heard of Aplomado Falcons carrying burning sticks to spread a fire before. I like to know your source for that one.
@Ben Woodruff. Good video Ben. Well done. But apart from this information, it is quite strange to me as to why there are no wild peregrines in New Zealand. What do you think?
I agree. It is EXTREMELY strange. I don’t have a working theory. But it seems near impossible. I would assume that migrating peregrines have made it there before. But perhaps they have been so few and far between that they never got a breeding population.
Is there any fossil evidence of peregrines existing in New Zealand? Considering the track record the Maori had with wiping out bird populations it wouldn't be surprising if peregrines in New Zealand suffered that same fate as so many other species.
you read my mind lol
Kia Ora, I am from New Zealand with a fair amount of knowledge and experience with New Zealand Raptors (particularly Kāhu/Swamp Harriers, but i have always been most passionate about NZF). My best guess is that it is likely to do with the original forest coverage in NZ. New Zealand was largely covered with forest (over 80%) before humans arrived, and with what I know of peregrine ecology (please correct me if I am wrong) they are a mostly open habitat bird, which would have made it very difficult for them to hunt in NZ, that is, if they reached NZ. Kārearea (New Zealand Falcon) are a falcon with unusual biology in that their wing/tail dimensions are much more similar to a goshawk (shorter, broader wings - longer, larger tails) which has adapted for them to live within New Zealand forests, allowing them to hunt under this very dense canopy, sacrificing speed for agility (which they certainly are very agile), chasing after birds, bats, and insects. I am not sure of the ancestral form of kārearea and their biology, but I imagine they would have had closer morphology to the modern day kārearea than the peregrine does/did, which would have given them the upper hand in terms of colonization of this comparably difficult habitat for a falcon. I hope this information is useful and that it sparks further discussion and curiosity, please feel free to correct me on anything I have gotten incorrect, or if you would just like to talk about these wonderful raptors! I am currently an undergrad student majoring in Ecology and minoring in Botany & Zoology, and it has always been my dream to further study kārearea.
Cheers :)
Not only the Brown Falcon is creatively named, we have Black and Grey Falcons as well!!
The Latin name F. Berigora is after an Aboriginal name for the Brown and is a more imaginative name for them.. Brown falcons are widely divergent in colour, more than any other falcon I believe. I have handled a few Brown Falcons as part of a rehab program and they are physically different in a couple of ways. The leg scales are more tough than other species , due , I have been told to their predation of snakes. They also run along the ground to chase prey.
They eat a wide range of prey but they tend toward a wait and see method, rather than a pursuit method. They are renowned for being quiet in nature, one female I had was perching on a persons knee after one day in captivity. I had to give her antibiotics and she would allow me to put the syringe in her open beak for a reward of a mealworm. I have two friends who have worked with Brown falcons as Academics and I will pass on your video link to them.
The broad winged hawk, grey hawk and red-shouldered hawk belong to the Buteos while the roadside hawk belongs to its own genus, Rupornis
I like to weigh in a bit here, the Black falcon is thought to be genetically close to the giant falcons, you know the Saker, Lugger, Lanner and Gyr but it now lives alone in Australia unless if the brown falcon appears to be related to them too in the future. I also like to consider the possibility of Ancient peregrine offshoot lineages living in the mammoth steppes of Europe, Asia and Beringia during the ice age since the prairie falcon diverged from the peregrine around 2-8 Mya.
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The Brown falcon is the only marsupial falcon.
I literally coughed and spat my water when I read that Jonah. You made me laugh so hard. I heard in my my head and pictures you saying it dead serious to a group of people.
dang without falconry there's a huge blind spot in the documentation of the birds, who knew?
you should check their accipiter counterpart, the brown goshawk
Yes and their relation to all the southeast Asian cousins. THAT relationship is a fun and gorgeous can of worms I have been trying to wrap my head around. Would definitely make for a good video.
You should do a video on both collared sparrowhawks and brown goshawks as they are both found in Australia. These two birds are so similar in size and color that people find it hard to identify them. Eurasian sparrowhawks and Eurasian goshawks have a much bigger difference in size. Female Eurasian sparrowhawks are the same size as a male Cooper's hawk.
Browns are notorious reptile catchers, slow moving large skinks to venomous snakes. Interesting when preying on snakes they will "dance" in front of the snake encouraging it to strike and then dance back, repeating this till the snake is tired out and can be grabbed. Of course, they are capable of catching birds but if you look at their feet, they aren't traditional bird catching talons, theirs are short stubby compared to say a peregrine. As far as the name goes, couldn't agree more. Let's not forget our black falcon and the grey falcon lol. Have you looked into the black breasted buzzard? Endemic to australia and it's known to use a rock to crack open emu eggs, a trick bird shows love to demonstrate. A worthwhile mention to the australian hobby which is larger than it's northern hemisphere counterparts and certainly a bird catcher. Personally I always found it interesting New Zealand has no peregrines, considering they are almost everywhere else. I considered maybe the NZ falcon predates them?
Epic information. Thank you so much for sharing! And I had no idea that your hobbies were so much larger than the northern ones and were active bird hunters. I have some wild theories on gray falcons and their place in everything. I want to do a video on my thoughts about them.
why are there no vultures native to Australia and New Zealand so what fill their ecological niches there?
If you look closely at our largest eagle the wedge tail, it kind of has a vulture look to it's face, and they are known to eat carrion
Most birds of prey will take the chance at an easy meal that is available.
There used to be. In fact one went to the top of the food chain in the outback and overthrew the Wedge Tail eagle in size over 60,000 years ago. Unlike other vultures, this bird was an active hunter; Dynatoaetus.
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😂yes the brown falcon, just lazy. The Australian Aboriginal name is "Berigora" which is a lot more inspiring. Cool video.