I'm just going to say, it; the fact Lord Knight said "My nigga" multiple times throughout this is the highlight of this for me. Rofl. Swear he'd say like, "Brother!" in French or something. Did not see that coming.
@@K7Showoff I'm going to be real. Lord Knight is someone I watch for technical stuff but never went to his stream because he felt really stiff, technical, and more-or-less like that super nerdy kid in class you'd go to in order to learn but wouldn't hang out with. If he showed more of THIS personality, I'd 100% be more of a fan for day-to-day things and not just hyper analysis and day-1 character theory-crafting. Cause he was fuckin' great in this.
Honestly though the Testament strivecord is the best whenever they get buffed. I barely even secondary the character at this point, but I’m still in there just to see the wholesome excitement everytime they start labbing out all the new routes and possibilities
@@K7ShowoffAlso, thank you for talking about Anji for more than 5 seconds lol. I don't care if people are hating while talking about him, it just feels like nobody wants to talk about him. Like if they talk about him for too long he's gonna pop out from under your bed on some boogeyman type shit and parry your ass into the shadow realm
Widow explained it well at 55:00 The reason aba beats sin is because a lot of her tools such as 236K destroy his neutral game, basically every single good poke in sins kit, including beak, far S, 2S, 2K ecc. All get hopped over by 236K, which forces sin to change his poking game ABAs 2P its also an amazing response to sins offense thanks to it being a 4 framer, and on defense sin also has trouble dealing with many parts of her offense without using DP that without the safety of RC comes with many downsided
Lordknight describes Asuka like he killed his family lmao. I wish what he said was true, I wanna see more top Asukas orher than Druice Gobou (when he used to play Asuka) and Zando
Honestly I hate Johnny’s backdash wayyy more than I hate his forward dash. Maybe that’s just because I play him though but when I’m not playing Johnny it makes punishing him the most annoying shit
I know I shouldn't saltpost but man I wish testament actually got button button nostrovia off hits other than counterhit c.s or 2h/6h, LK kinda cap for that one
In terms of bedman i think the placement is pretty dead on. The bed's recent changes have been very good for him but i think in a bad way. The main things that made him bad before are still there but with the change of j.s being a god button. I think the main problem is that some of the things that make him not great would make the character cancerous to play against as he already has suffocating pressure as well as a lot of screen clutter that can make him able to hide his next moves. The only real issue i believe he has is big body properties without big body health, which is even worse this patch with big health pools being very good. Also he didnt use white wild assault nearly as well as any of the other big bodies.
My nitpick with the video is that the zato changes barely matter and you guys made it sound like they were decent. The only one that matters is pierce being one frame faster for confirms, the teleport shit is a gimmick that is usually worse than just running up to them and the burst change is whatever because you can just wait for 2S or 5H and burst on that for free once he uses a lil bit of eddie
@@justinng2838yeah I was watching in the part of the video before you put zato and baiken in the same tier by themselves. I'll take bottom two any day. also My nitpick with the video is that the zato changes barely matter and you guys made it sound like they were decent. The only one that matters is pierce being one frame faster for confirms, the teleport shit is a gimmick that is usually worse than just running up to them and the burst change is whatever because you can just wait for 2S or 5H and burst on that for free once he uses a lil bit of eddie
Imo they made sin less fun with the dp change but not the rc one even though that was part of it n is fair but the other one like come on bro just nerf the dmg or somin if u hit dp raw into super or somin or make it where its only on counter hit so u deserve it like bruh...
Bedman is PEAK FICTION! The animations are look-alike only in the case of dash and 2h, and 2s and 2d, in my opinion. Do people really not understand what the bed's doing or is it some kind of community bit, really?
Bedman? Has a lot of effects with error 6c and their special moves, which makes it a bit difficult to see whats going on. Also doesn't help that most their normals have spike wheels. And delilah runnin around in the foreground scuffs things up a bit more. Given enough practice its quite easy to tell the difference.
@@Mozart380 Well, I understand everything except for everyone's problem with Delilah. Guess I'm just lucky then not to see her at all during fight. Also, Bedman is (relatively) bad imo so he kinda needs all these visual effects to create a smoke screen of sorts to cover up what he is doing because there are a lot of situations when it's fake and unsafe and his mix-ups are relatively slow.
bro jacko isnt s tier nawww. get off it lol...use any defensive mechanics her goobers are gone, she's made of glass & is horrid against hc & axl along with majority of top tiers. It's not a thing. why do people cap on slayer 'neutral' please...mappa IS the neutral. an defense terrible? how.
@@K7Showoff Yes, the clowns are sitting and making a list of a completely broken and non-competitive game. Why do I need these useless lists and competitions on Strive if they just don’t care about my character and pretend that everything is fine with Millia. hey turn around. this game and its community are just biased trash.
@@Sporkyz74 you can have it when you realize pro players are just humans with faulty understanding and agendas of their own. Their opinion is not intrinsically worth more than mine or yours or anyone else's. I call bullshit on this tier list and on most others I see online from "pro" players
@@Sporkyz74 you can have it too when you realize pro players are just humans with a faulty understanding of the game and agendas of their own. Their opinion is not intrinsically worth more than mine or yours or anyone else's. Some placement in this list are fine, but there are others such as Nago in top tier which are completely blind to the actual power level of the character relative to rest of the cast. I call bullshit on this and any other tier list where Nago is any higher than high tier
@@206lbs.hercules5 Actual top tiers are Sol Leo Happy Chaos May Sin. Nago has less damage than them (yes, less damage since he can't always maximize his damage output which got nerfed and nerfed each patch as far as taking away conversions from Nago's best CH starter removing special cancels from 6H), better mobility, better neutral, better frame data (Nago has the most recovery frames for normals in the game), better mixup, better space control (Nago has some big buttons but they are all flawed. 2H is much smaller than it looks and can be 6Pd to clash even point blank even when cancelled from another normal, 5H can be low profiled same as 2H, 2S has long recovery and is not disjointed, fS is not disjointed and super slow. If you whiff any if these you don't recover in time to 6P a jump in), better defense since they have DPs and 4f/3f normals and don't get squishier for using special moves. They don't have to worry about managing a resource that actively punish them even when appropriately managed. Nago is strong but comparing him to these characters is actually insane
@@YoungYoung95 Nago does not have less damage that Leo or HC, and he def does the same level damage as those other characters. He does good damage. His mixup is good, dp beyblade high low is a 50/50 but it is very expensive, his strike throw is best in class in both accessibility and reward, and his pressure is insane in and of itself. His normals are good; he has a great 2s (Nerfed, but still great) 5k (Nerfed, but still great) and his H buttons are slow but unless hard called cannot be punished due to their immense size. He's def not as good as he used to be, but I def think he's not worse than Goldlewis, Ram, Leo, Jack-o, etc
They go between characters a few times, but timestamps:
0:00:00 Sol, Ky, May
0:00:20 Axl
0:00:50 Chipp
0:02:10 Potemkin
0:05:45 Faust
0:10:00 Millia
0:12:50 Zato-1
0:14:00 Ramlethal
0:15:40 Leo
0:19:24 Nagoriyuki
0:25:42 Giovanna
0:28:10 Anji
0:29:38 I-No
0:31:03 Goldlewis
0:35:04 Jack-O
0:39:35 Happy Chaos
0:41:10 Baiken
0:43:55 Johnny
0:49:37 Testament
0:53:24 Bridget
0:53:59 Sin
0:56:31 Bedman?
0:59:13 Asuka
1:03:13 Elphelt
1:05:10 ABA
1:11:31 Slayer
I'm just going to say, it; the fact Lord Knight said "My nigga" multiple times throughout this is the highlight of this for me. Rofl. Swear he'd say like, "Brother!" in French or something. Did not see that coming.
@@RoKtheReaper this is the REAL lord knight. He’s so funny and I love it
@@K7Showoff I'm going to be real. Lord Knight is someone I watch for technical stuff but never went to his stream because he felt really stiff, technical, and more-or-less like that super nerdy kid in class you'd go to in order to learn but wouldn't hang out with. If he showed more of THIS personality, I'd 100% be more of a fan for day-to-day things and not just hyper analysis and day-1 character theory-crafting. Cause he was fuckin' great in this.
@RoKtheReaper his secondary channel Lord Knight Chronicles is basically just this
Mon frere Faust has 18 bursts...smh
@@RoKtheReaper You clearly didn't watch him enough, THIS is him....
Socrates asked who beat Nago had me crying tears.
His student Plato was a wrestler and he had kinda "big body" type (Plato is a nickname, it means "wide"/"broad-shouldered")
testament mains so desperate for their main to do anything that they see arcsys buff far slash by 1 damage and they go "NEW WINCON BABY WOOOOO"
Teleport > c.S > Crow is mad funny tho
Honestly though the Testament strivecord is the best whenever they get buffed. I barely even secondary the character at this point, but I’m still in there just to see the wholesome excitement everytime they start labbing out all the new routes and possibilities
Unhinged LK is best LK
I try to tell him this. He always wants to be chill but he’s SO FUNNY when he’s not.
@@K7ShowoffAlso, thank you for talking about Anji for more than 5 seconds lol. I don't care if people are hating while talking about him, it just feels like nobody wants to talk about him. Like if they talk about him for too long he's gonna pop out from under your bed on some boogeyman type shit and parry your ass into the shadow realm
I always love how any Guilty Gear character discussion is basically people hating until other characters to the end of time.
Widow explained it well at 55:00
The reason aba beats sin is because a lot of her tools such as 236K destroy his neutral game, basically every single good poke in sins kit, including beak, far S, 2S, 2K ecc. All get hopped over by 236K, which forces sin to change his poking game
ABAs 2P its also an amazing response to sins offense thanks to it being a 4 framer, and on defense sin also has trouble dealing with many parts of her offense without using DP that without the safety of RC comes with many downsided
They made his defense worst too no DP Kara super and she doesn't even die so she gets more chances to come back
57:58 that’s me :)
Oh so true actually
axl be like 007
0 top tier moments in the series history
0 major wins
7 times getting buffed and moving down tierlists
Arcsys try only for DLC
@@konebany7317zato still worse thn millia
lmao the millia counterplay bit, jesus christ
@@Emjoez arcsys want it
10:19 my bad bro
cop!!!
@@GameConnoisseur69 i'm equipping millias with the tools to push their own game further. i ain't no cop
YOU’RE A FEDERAL AGENT.
Also, did you uninstall?
Thank you Skar, you are a hero in my eyes.
@@K7Showoff Yeah but just to make myself go on a break for a week after Versus Fighting lol
K7 on strive always makes me happy
Lordknight describes Asuka like he killed his family lmao. I wish what he said was true, I wanna see more top Asukas orher than Druice Gobou (when he used to play Asuka) and Zando
Caught this late, nonetheless cool and unexpected collab thanks for the video
This video is so quotable i love it. Funny as hell
I love when LK drops the calm exterior and starts hating 😭
LK shitting on different characters is so funny LMAO. I think this is a very accurate tier list honestly
i love how the jack o part is just a big "we dont know what is a jack o,i think she strong,she beat me"
Honestly I hate Johnny’s backdash wayyy more than I hate his forward dash. Maybe that’s just because I play him though but when I’m not playing Johnny it makes punishing him the most annoying shit
I know I shouldn't saltpost but man I wish testament actually got button button nostrovia off hits other than counterhit c.s or 2h/6h, LK kinda cap for that one
@@Cobalt01 you’re in the right comment section. This is THE place to salt.
Damn Faust must be struggling real damn hard for LK to not put him top 5
Generational levels of hate for our honest bottom 3 warrior
In terms of bedman i think the placement is pretty dead on. The bed's recent changes have been very good for him but i think in a bad way. The main things that made him bad before are still there but with the change of j.s being a god button. I think the main problem is that some of the things that make him not great would make the character cancerous to play against as he already has suffocating pressure as well as a lot of screen clutter that can make him able to hide his next moves. The only real issue i believe he has is big body properties without big body health, which is even worse this patch with big health pools being very good. Also he didnt use white wild assault nearly as well as any of the other big bodies.
Yea man bring on the Johnny slander. Turn that up.
yo brother whats the site on the second bookmark, asking for a friend
lookmovie is the name of the website
@@user-ds8vw6uz8g lookmovie2.to ALLEGEDLY
@@K7Showoff my friend said thanks
@@K7Showoff common k7 w
ive been thinking the same thing about faust for ages bro
0:41:10 LK I know you speak facts but still it breaks my heart hear you say that... Baiken bros stay strong...
My nitpick with the video is that the zato changes barely matter and you guys made it sound like they were decent. The only one that matters is pierce being one frame faster for confirms, the teleport shit is a gimmick that is usually worse than just running up to them and the burst change is whatever because you can just wait for 2S or 5H and burst on that for free once he uses a lil bit of eddie
is this game still well worth playing? or should i just wait for the next game?
Worth it! We’re getting more changes soon so everyone is relearning the game!
Thank god somone else hate Elphet, she aight till you cant finsh her and starts camping and bouncing all around
1:16:20 coming back after razzo won with slayer at dream hack
K7 you gotta try Batman new changes on multiversus he’s sick rn
@@reverseflash6503 so I’ve heard, MVS video incoming 👀
johnny stocks are way too high
Trust, they are not. I’m a BELIEVER
zottom
Bottomken 🤝
@@justinng2838 lol u responsed while I was watching haha.
also thos tiers better not be ordered or my zato main ass is getting mad haha
@@zachstarattack7320 i still think baiken should be higher than zattom abit but i need more mu with zato
@@justinng2838yeah I was watching in the part of the video before you put zato and baiken in the same tier by themselves. I'll take bottom two any day.
also My nitpick with the video is that the zato changes barely matter and you guys made it sound like they were decent. The only one that matters is pierce being one frame faster for confirms, the teleport shit is a gimmick that is usually worse than just running up to them and the burst change is whatever because you can just wait for 2S or 5H and burst on that for free once he uses a lil bit of eddie
hot take all set-play/resource characters are top tire guilty gear strive is made for it.
Potemkin downplay 💔💔😢
Gio is fair and balanced. B tier character. No reversal. Thanks for coming to my ted Talk. Yall be safe out here.
Imo they made sin less fun with the dp change but not the rc one even though that was part of it n is fair but the other one like come on bro just nerf the dmg or somin if u hit dp raw into super or somin or make it where its only on counter hit so u deserve it like bruh...
the damage was already pretty bad its the same scaling as HC full screen corner carry 2P starter
Bro we must keep downplaying Johnny😭. This tier list aint good for the stocks 💀
@@peakabooh I should’ve lied for the stocks
The bedman cope is too real again. Just don't look at the girl smh
Bedman is PEAK FICTION! The animations are look-alike only in the case of dash and 2h, and 2s and 2d, in my opinion. Do people really not understand what the bed's doing or is it some kind of community bit, really?
Bedman? Has a lot of effects with error 6c and their special moves, which makes it a bit difficult to see whats going on. Also doesn't help that most their normals have spike wheels. And delilah runnin around in the foreground scuffs things up a bit more.
Given enough practice its quite easy to tell the difference.
@@Mozart380 Well, I understand everything except for everyone's problem with Delilah. Guess I'm just lucky then not to see her at all during fight.
Also, Bedman is (relatively) bad imo so he kinda needs all these visual effects to create a smoke screen of sorts to cover up what he is doing because there are a lot of situations when it's fake and unsafe and his mix-ups are relatively slow.
Millia bottom 3. Fine. I was right. Extremely balanced game.
Us millia enjoyers will be up soon 👆👆 (copium)
Dude, Millia could be top 3 and you would still complain that Millia is bottom 26
@@ShadowNinjaMaster93 you won't know until she becomes top 3 in this game... Do you even believe in this?
bro jacko isnt s tier nawww. get off it lol...use any defensive mechanics her goobers are gone, she's made of glass & is horrid against hc & axl along with majority of top tiers. It's not a thing. why do people cap on slayer 'neutral' please...mappa IS the neutral. an defense terrible? how.
This game just a joke. Absolutely gorilla and p2w unbalanced trash
Untrue, this is just my opinion so someone may think otherwise!
@@konebany7317 brother, between tier s and a its exaclty 50% base game and 50% dlc
@@lorenzolombardi3369 50/50 gorilla and p2w trash.
Indeed
@@K7Showoff Yes, the clowns are sitting and making a list of a completely broken and non-competitive game. Why do I need these useless lists and competitions on Strive if they just don’t care about my character and pretend that everything is fine with Millia. hey turn around. this game and its community are just biased trash.
Placing Nago in top tier is the most straightforward way of showing you don't understand this game.
God I wish I had your confidence
@@Sporkyz74 you can have it when you realize pro players are just humans with faulty understanding and agendas of their own. Their opinion is not intrinsically worth more than mine or yours or anyone else's. I call bullshit on this tier list and on most others I see online from "pro" players
@@Sporkyz74 you can have it too when you realize pro players are just humans with a faulty understanding of the game and agendas of their own. Their opinion is not intrinsically worth more than mine or yours or anyone else's. Some placement in this list are fine, but there are others such as Nago in top tier which are completely blind to the actual power level of the character relative to rest of the cast. I call bullshit on this and any other tier list where Nago is any higher than high tier
@@206lbs.hercules5 Actual top tiers are Sol Leo Happy Chaos May Sin. Nago has less damage than them (yes, less damage since he can't always maximize his damage output which got nerfed and nerfed each patch as far as taking away conversions from Nago's best CH starter removing special cancels from 6H), better mobility, better neutral, better frame data (Nago has the most recovery frames for normals in the game), better mixup, better space control (Nago has some big buttons but they are all flawed. 2H is much smaller than it looks and can be 6Pd to clash even point blank even when cancelled from another normal, 5H can be low profiled same as 2H, 2S has long recovery and is not disjointed, fS is not disjointed and super slow. If you whiff any if these you don't recover in time to 6P a jump in), better defense since they have DPs and 4f/3f normals and don't get squishier for using special moves. They don't have to worry about managing a resource that actively punish them even when appropriately managed.
Nago is strong but comparing him to these characters is actually insane
@@YoungYoung95 Nago does not have less damage that Leo or HC, and he def does the same level damage as those other characters. He does good damage. His mixup is good, dp beyblade high low is a 50/50 but it is very expensive, his strike throw is best in class in both accessibility and reward, and his pressure is insane in and of itself. His normals are good; he has a great 2s (Nerfed, but still great) 5k (Nerfed, but still great) and his H buttons are slow but unless hard called cannot be punished due to their immense size. He's def not as good as he used to be, but I def think he's not worse than Goldlewis, Ram, Leo, Jack-o, etc