the addon is really sick and when i heard them first talk about it i thought it was a great idea and its something that would make people stick around longer
I was shocked to hear you would be okay giving away all permission. I was even MORE shocked hearing people still having a problem with it even after giving all permissions?? That is so stupid. People wanting to leave the guild because of it? Christ those people need to get over themselves.
It's actually pathetic, but it's also the internet and people just don't get over years old bs, at the end of the day, this was a benefit to all members, with or without Athene, and people just want to ruin a good thing
Lets ignore everything in this context except for the addon, the addon is a blessing for all the streamers and like u said provides them with so much more content. Them refusing to use it because of your rep is just them killing the HC hype faster
I have followed WoW since the early days, I remember the Athene videos that absolutely revolutionized gaming content in general. I also remember the accusations, drama, and admittedly sometimes Athene taking things too far. However, I do believe that people deserve redemption of that's what they seek whether that's a true redemption or a reputational one - I think this should have ended when you offered to sign all permissions away. They could have the code independently reviewed for not that much money/ time at all and then he absolutely positive it's a safe addon, and then play with you if they choose and determine your character for themselves. Most of these streamers are too young to even remember you (no offense it's just been a bit since you were THE WoW guy)
ive seen old wow veterans doing easy mistakes just because they skipped low level content during the old days , wowhobbs died due to unfamilarity in wc ,guzu never seen an elite mob in wc outside the dungeon -same mob ive taken down at least 40 times - all these wower streamers doing only 60 content before - but i guess this is really fun for them but i find the low content easy and anyoing , the opposite of these "experts - if die to lowlevel contnt then its involvea another player
It's always the people who can't contribute anything who tear down those who can. Let's see them make an addon. It's so much easier to criticize than it is to build something. It takes a lot of hard work to make something like this. Either you're a pro or you're a noob. That's life.
I'm an addon developer and this isn't anything special, honestly. The front end is just a copy of the auction house interface XML. The backend uses an, private, chat channel and is probably password protected but any competent person could mess with the data being sent. It looks impressive but that's about it.
It's sad that people can't see past their own prejudice of "Athene". Even after he takes his name off the add-on and makes it opensource. Common sense is no longer common.
@@friski-fn8os Its cringe how many times I've seen this comment and yet other than his mobile gaming arc which is inheritly predatory, but entirely legal, I've yet to see proof on anything else that shows any malicious intent, just people too dumb to see the 4th wall level satire that his content was always built on. Athene is and always has been the ultimate troll to a degree where even when you're certain he's joking you still can't be sure. At the end of the day he will always be what you think he is because your mind is to small to think anything else.
@ you think this many people would really get this angry if he didn’t clearly do anything bad? Ironic how you talk about a small mind while not being able to comprehend common sense.
This is the danger of being a troll. A very double edged sword. Elon musk seems to be finding out. Sorry that this is happening, but i can't say that i am surprised.
In what other area would you totally discount past (serious) transgressions when considering someone's subsequent offerings? This is a pretty silly approach.
Why do people boycott R Kelly songs? He made good music, but history matters. You don't want to support/promote/give a platform to "bad people". I'm not saying Athene deserves that label, idk. But this is what people think and if he deserves it, that's totally valid. If the addon gets promoted, it will promote Athene too regardless of who owns it. Everyone knows he made it.
@@gopez93 in any type of publicly available software that can be checked by anyone lol? And it's free so it's not like you're supporting him or anything. These takes are just ignorant regardless of what you think of athene the person
it's okay Athene let them prove to us they are not real wow players. let them remind us they know not of the true heart of this game. witch if they did, they would know you are part of that heart.
You getting a second chance in my book man. Sucks to see the response to your return because I for one was so excited to see the first Athene onlyfangs episode and have been loving the content. Thanks for the entertainment ‘thene. Stay the course.
Tell Soda it can be a optional addon. It looks like great for content. The people threatining to leave then are in a sense anti content if they leave for an optional addon
did u even watch the video? Or even watch onlyfangs? This shit is days old they've been doing that for days now. Wake up, athene is a slow uploader. he a boomer he cant hang with these zoomers who are pumping out content on the daily.
Ugh as a dev, its also really heartbreaking when you put so much effort into something for a specific reason for someone that says they want the app.... then they are like... NAH... its rough
I know nothing about athene's past but given the willingness to turn over all ownership and being completely open to people reviewing the code at the very least this addon seems clean
Basically he quit WoW to set up a cult around a religion called Athenism and got people to all move to a house with him. A streamer house of sorts. When he says "the guys we have here put together the addon," people would assume that he is talking about his cult members. Look up "Athene's Theory Of Everything" for more information. If I recall correctly it is based on a lot of hermetic principals. The Law of Attraction type stuff. It was extremely random and came out of nowhere so people are still pretty put off by it to this day. The randomness of him doing that in and of itself is offputting. Dude went from playing WoW to creating a whole religion over night with zero foreshadowing lol.. Due to having a vetting and selection process, people likened it to Scientology. Not sure if money was the goal. Kinda think he does believe a lot of what he preached in that video. Afaik, Athene hasn't genuinely scammed anyone in the traditional sense. So the response from OnlyFangs is a little dramatic.
@@FlexGC We're all trolls to a degree, and the whole cult thing was clearly a joke. The crypto stuff...I think it was half joking but half real. I've been around since day dot of Athene being a thing, and knowing all I know I still think it's absurd to say you don't trust Athene. He is one of the originals and even with all his trolling in the past, this guy went out of his way and spent 3 weeks of his time creating a content machine for these lackluster streamers who can't create their own entertaining content and all he got in return was people questioning if he can be trusted.
Tbh I kinda miss when you were a presence in the gaming space, WoW, D3 etc. Not just the humor or even the world first stuff specifically, but the approach that you brought in new ideas and coming up with unique methods to succeed and approach to mechanics. Content like that on youtube feels so copypaste with creators and there's not a lot of people left who approach the games like that. Would be great to see you return to more game centric content.
The fact that you are willing to wipe anything related to you from the addon and give all permissions/ownership away AS WELL AS making it public for anyone who wants to review the code should be more than enough for anyone with a brain. I'll be honest I haven't even heard the name Athene for YEARS until I started watching OnlyFangs content from time to time. I hope they figure it out man, it's a great looking addon and it deserves to be used.
Its insane ppl hating on athene, like wtf man. Dude was a politician and king of youtube. Ppl should respect athene, he was helping kids get food and ppl all the time. Media can really mess things up for no reason
Petty. I mean code is code, and if ownership transfer is being proposed then a code review can be done. Or can't they read code or interpret it? Jeez, beyond petty.
This is sad. I hope you bounce back and like get shit in there. Like not be sad but happy and successful and that excitement that I felt when I clicked on your VOD and Soda was addressing the add on comes back
Grubby was the first who initially said he is fine with the current system of logistics. Didnt even look into the addon when he said it btw. And then openly said Athene is scam artist with his crypto and NFTs. There are twitch clips with these claims too.
@@reXisify So what? Start to think for yourself and dont only agree, because Grubby says something. It really comes across like this reading your comment.^^
As I said in a comment reply, Athene went out of his way to make a content machine for these lackluster streamers that clearly can't make any interesting content themselves, or this idea wouldn't have spawned, and all they do in return is question him. The fact a code review was mentioned says all I need to know about these people. They think he's infecting/trolling them with his addon when all he did was try to help. I know all too well about Athene's past, and even I think it's INSANE to think he's up to something sinister. Grow up.
You know I've been subbed to you since the old athene number one paladin in the world days. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for these people to actually just look you up and watch everything. It's also crazy considering the app is entirely open source.
lol people feeling uncomfortable about an add-on - mostly grown men crying about athene still LOL that type of reaction base is why I don't follow onlyfangs, they're literal children AND most of them trash at the game
I stand with Athene. One does not simply disrespect a WoW legend, stand your ground athene, the best paladin in the world shall redeem his legacy and return to greatness! keep up the good work, much love
The clowns that are doing the whole diggin into the past or whatever or trying to bring to light some supposed "facts" about you, is a total waste of energy. Who cares, yah filthy weirdos. Even if Athene did do something bad, first of all, actually prove it, yah cringe losers. Second, again, yah cringe clowns, learn how to separate art from the artist. Learn how to separate what a person says from the person saying it. That's what matters, unlike your twisted world views where everyone needs to be an upstanding citizen to do a good deed. Nothing needs to be perfect or even good necessary for good shit to happen.
It's alright Athene. There's a major problem with these big streamers fanbases where they just make blind accusations based off random youtube videos with lack of any proof. Been watching you since I was 13 years old man, you're a true legend in my eyes and the true fans will always be here to watch.
Im like 99% certain of who the real "upset" person was and who started the "we wont play if he's here or if we use this addon" ...it smells like shitty warrior that who claims to have had gladiator lol
you shouldnt have had to drop your branding, you havent done anything wrong. Keep it up bro, there are some honest non psycos out there like me that appreciate your work. Don't let society fuck you up. Also if you need a business analyst w/ some ML experience let me know
I understand where Soda and the people feeling uncomfortable are coming from but I also understand Athene. Very unlucky to see, this mightve helped smaller content creators make their own content reacting to deaths or vice versa , giving them exposure by the bigger streamers reacting to the deaths more frequently as its right there instead of being cherry picked by the community. Hated your past , Athene , wouldve loved a propper positive comeback. Godspeed
i mean... if they dont want to use the addon then dont use the addon. But dont hold people hostage and make it where nobody can if they if they want too, thats fucking dumb
I wish they put stock in reality over rumours. Athene raised thousands for charity. Saved lives in other countries. He has helped way more than 90% of onlyfangs who are just clout chasers and fame hunters.
This honestly looks like a sick add on for any guild. Being able to sell trade and help guild mates directly is an amazing idea. It also makes it guild interaction a lot easier.
Cancel culture on its best, people that just sheep around canceling others are the weakest people on this planet honestly, weakest in all sense, zero logical awareness. But when talking about money some people are vulnerable, expression as milking the people some may find it funny as hell, but others find this to be a behavior they do not like at all, nothing to do with character, in my point of view
Always thought about making a kult that does the exact opposite: encourages people to be more social/self-improvement/participate in volunteer work/form small hobby groups etc.... but this makes me realize that all it takes is a few morons with accusations to bring you down. Then you have the more cynical people who don't care for the truth but are just glad to have ammo...
Art is NOT the artist. Knives aren't killers. Hammers don't build homes. Regardless of your past, even IF all of it is true which I highly doubt, you in your current frame of mind and place in time made this. If it passes code review and is not found to contain no malicious actions or similar things then it SHOULD be used. This is very clearly a passion project by yourself created with the sole intent of allowing for easier access to and more content for these players / streamers. If those same people are willing to be stubborn fucknuts who would rather flaunt their supposed moral superiority then they don't need to use it, endorse it, or promote it. You do not have a gun to anyone's head screaming at them to download and tell everyone to download it and that they love you and you never did anything wrong and are perfect. You built a tool. A GOOD tool. This is a hill worth dying on, and you should fight on it because they will all fold before they take you out. There aren't enough 2/10 halfbaked breadtuber hour long slopdrama ""documentaries"" any of them could shit out that invalidities the genuine good that your addon entails. PLEASE do not give in to the spastic whining of groupthinkers.
What a cool little addon and excellent idea. I think the angry ppl were just blizzard shills mad that you did it better. May your excellence be welcomed another time. Also: twitch chat are some of the worst mouth breathing basement dwellers so don't listen to them.
Only fangs were really childish about it imo. Like there's nothing shady about the addon it looked fun and why can't they look past or even forgive what he did in the past it's not even relevant to this situation. Very vindictive behaviour.
Athene pretty much marked my childhood and early yt days. Yeah hes done some sketchy stuff in the past but also a lot of good. If he wants to start with a clean slate and bring back Athene I'm all for it.
So people are willing to quit the guild if they use the add on cause it was created by Athene ... If the people are feeling that uncomfortable about the add-on i'm curious as to what they really think about Athene and Maral joining the guild ? I think its fantastic that they both decided to give WoW another shot after all these years... the old school people appreciate seeing them both back in the game and i bet its only a handful of people that actually feel threatened and i bet these people complaining are not even the top players or streamers that really make up the core of the guild . The recent Drama to be honest has left a sour taste if the people think this sort of drama is entertaining it is not,alot of the streams have become so toxic and really not fun to watch and its unfortunate... As always when good things come around theres always something or someone that has to put a fork in it ...Cheers Cheezzwhizz
Guessing it was the same people that were "uncomfortable" with Pirate Software after the drama. So there's a few members that want to avoid everyone with a bad rep no matter what? I wonder who they are.
Athene you're a legend, the addon is legit. Regardless of your past this is a nice piece of professional quality addon development. It was great to see you back on warcraft !
The post truth has gone in too deep... They can't separate a technical prowess from their beliefs... it's just sad. And in onlyfangs that mob mentality has become worse and more evident in each drama iteration. Had it been some kind of addon not so specifix for a guild, it would have been a massive success. (Just talking about the concept, I understand why this was tailor-made)
*ATHAAAAANE* I love ya dude! Can’t tell you how much me and others needed Athene back. It feels so good!! Thank you for all that you do, but especially for Athene
You should just put the add-on on curse Forge and make it so anyone can use it any Guild not just only fangs if they're going to s*** on your work and then take ownership and Fiat add-on for everyone I would love to use it for my guild
It's similar to the Pirate situation bro. Own up that you may have done some weird stuff, apologize if you have harmed anyone and tell everyone what you are about now. If you hold up to that, not only will you get the addon in the guild, but you can become a successful content creator again no doubt. Be honest and people will take notice sooner or later. That being sad, I still don't know what to think about you in all honesty, but I do wish you the best.
All the review bombs on CurseForge are by Tosog, he’s still salty about the powerleveling record and he’s farming Karazhan while Athens’s in full T6.
have u seen his gameplay? i Have never seen someone so bad at this game to be honest. did he had a stroke or something?
Tosog really did bring hundred thousand fans this time. Fak.
I'ma rewatch the vid with Tosog just for the lols.
German druid with 1 day 4 hours is about to get OWNED SCHWFF SCHWFF
and mooncow
Makes sense.. that loser is going to be last-years news.
the addon is really sick and when i heard them first talk about it i thought it was a great idea and its something that would make people stick around longer
I was shocked to hear you would be okay giving away all permission. I was even MORE shocked hearing people still having a problem with it even after giving all permissions?? That is so stupid. People wanting to leave the guild because of it? Christ those people need to get over themselves.
what people ?
Hes just trying to get in the Lump again. So cute.
@@Gurupimp10 It's cuter seeing streamers and other shit kickers pretend to be outraged.
@ Why Suc Athene tho? Cute couple.
@@Gurupimp10 if it helps him raise more money for good causes then why not
Athene is an OG and will always be a legend. Even If I don't agree with him on some things. Him as a gamer and content creator I will always respect.
It's actually pathetic, but it's also the internet and people just don't get over years old bs, at the end of the day, this was a benefit to all members, with or without Athene, and people just want to ruin a good thing
Lets ignore everything in this context except for the addon, the addon is a blessing for all the streamers and like u said provides them with so much more content. Them refusing to use it because of your rep is just them killing the HC hype faster
I have followed WoW since the early days, I remember the Athene videos that absolutely revolutionized gaming content in general.
I also remember the accusations, drama, and admittedly sometimes Athene taking things too far.
However, I do believe that people deserve redemption of that's what they seek whether that's a true redemption or a reputational one - I think this should have ended when you offered to sign all permissions away.
They could have the code independently reviewed for not that much money/ time at all and then he absolutely positive it's a safe addon, and then play with you if they choose and determine your character for themselves.
Most of these streamers are too young to even remember you (no offense it's just been a bit since you were THE WoW guy)
ive seen old wow veterans doing easy mistakes just because they skipped low level content during the old days , wowhobbs died due to unfamilarity in wc ,guzu never seen an elite mob in wc outside the dungeon -same mob ive taken down at least 40 times - all these wower streamers doing only 60 content before - but i guess this is really fun for them but i find the low content easy and anyoing , the opposite of these "experts - if die to lowlevel contnt then its involvea another player
At the same time was also PurePwnage :D
It's always the people who can't contribute anything who tear down those who can. Let's see them make an addon. It's so much easier to criticize than it is to build something. It takes a lot of hard work to make something like this. Either you're a pro or you're a noob. That's life.
I'm an addon developer and this isn't anything special, honestly. The front end is just a copy of the auction house interface XML. The backend uses an, private, chat channel and is probably password protected but any competent person could mess with the data being sent. It looks impressive but that's about it.
@@Eyevou the shade is real with you
ai did this for him loo
@ What shade? I'm just being honest. The addon is a fancy bulletin board dressed up to look like the auction house.
@@Eyevou so, what's the problem with it? seems like a pretty cool idea
OG players that dont like athene are scrubbs i think athene is a genius :)
I only wonder what is the reasons they don't like him...
Because he is better.. only that@@netspidercz
Even Jesus had a "past" according to the pharisees. Remember that Athene.
athene out here still filming monitors, gotta respect it
That was incredibly humble and gracious of you to suggest to give the full ownership to the guild.
It's sad that people can't see past their own prejudice of "Athene". Even after he takes his name off the add-on and makes it opensource. Common sense is no longer common.
It's not prejudice if it's based on something that has infact happened.
@@imyournme6632 what happened?
@@imyournme6632 The onus of proof is on the one who accuses, if you want to testify then do it properly
@ he openly scams people out of money to use it for stuff he deems are moral
@@imyournme6632 so your saying hes the goverment?
LETS GO CAST THAT HOLY LIGHT, BEST PALADIN IN THE WORLD!!
Bro the addon is insane. good luck
tbh this actually looks like a great and interesting addon. canceling it because it's from athene is just plain stupid.
its almost as if his actions had consequences. crazy how trust works.
@@friski-fn8os crazy how code reviews work.
@@friski-fn8os Its cringe how many times I've seen this comment and yet other than his mobile gaming arc which is inheritly predatory, but entirely legal, I've yet to see proof on anything else that shows any malicious intent, just people too dumb to see the 4th wall level satire that his content was always built on. Athene is and always has been the ultimate troll to a degree where even when you're certain he's joking you still can't be sure.
At the end of the day he will always be what you think he is because your mind is to small to think anything else.
@ lil bro didn’t see the videos that made it to #1 trending cause of moistcriticals breakdown which got literally millions of views.
@ you think this many people would really get this angry if he didn’t clearly do anything bad? Ironic how you talk about a small mind while not being able to comprehend common sense.
This is the danger of being a troll. A very double edged sword. Elon musk seems to be finding out. Sorry that this is happening, but i can't say that i am surprised.
I don't care about the history, that app looks fantastic for its purpose.
In what other area would you totally discount past (serious) transgressions when considering someone's subsequent offerings? This is a pretty silly approach.
Why do people boycott R Kelly songs? He made good music, but history matters. You don't want to support/promote/give a platform to "bad people".
I'm not saying Athene deserves that label, idk. But this is what people think and if he deserves it, that's totally valid. If the addon gets promoted, it will promote Athene too regardless of who owns it. Everyone knows he made it.
@@gopez93 in any type of publicly available software that can be checked by anyone lol? And it's free so it's not like you're supporting him or anything. These takes are just ignorant regardless of what you think of athene the person
@@gopez93 so basically something that happens on the internet daily?
@@gopez93 Tiktok, Trump, I think he is looking at the big picture and you are not.
it's okay Athene let them prove to us they are not real wow players. let them remind us they know not of the true heart of this game. witch if they did, they would know you are part of that heart.
You getting a second chance in my book man. Sucks to see the response to your return because I for one was so excited to see the first Athene onlyfangs episode and have been loving the content. Thanks for the entertainment ‘thene. Stay the course.
Tell Soda it can be a optional addon. It looks like great for content. The people threatining to leave then are in a sense anti content if they leave for an optional addon
This is so effing good.
did u even watch the video? Or even watch onlyfangs? This shit is days old they've been doing that for days now. Wake up, athene is a slow uploader. he a boomer he cant hang with these zoomers who are pumping out content on the daily.
Ugh as a dev, its also really heartbreaking when you put so much effort into something for a specific reason for someone that says they want the app.... then they are like... NAH... its rough
Gquitting over an addon is petty. At the end of the day its a content guild and people love to stir drama over nothing.
That is such an amazing idea for the guild. They need this.
I know nothing about athene's past but given the willingness to turn over all ownership and being completely open to people reviewing the code at the very least this addon seems clean
He is a troll and maybe legit or faux cult leader.
@@FlexGC and if you don't give him the option to be something else?
Basically he quit WoW to set up a cult around a religion called Athenism and got people to all move to a house with him. A streamer house of sorts. When he says "the guys we have here put together the addon," people would assume that he is talking about his cult members. Look up "Athene's Theory Of Everything" for more information. If I recall correctly it is based on a lot of hermetic principals. The Law of Attraction type stuff. It was extremely random and came out of nowhere so people are still pretty put off by it to this day. The randomness of him doing that in and of itself is offputting. Dude went from playing WoW to creating a whole religion over night with zero foreshadowing lol.. Due to having a vetting and selection process, people likened it to Scientology. Not sure if money was the goal. Kinda think he does believe a lot of what he preached in that video.
Afaik, Athene hasn't genuinely scammed anyone in the traditional sense. So the response from OnlyFangs is a little dramatic.
@@FlexGC Time to move on buddy, atleast he owns his mistakes. Go look at someone like Adan Ross who do what he did once, daily and is still massive.
@@FlexGC We're all trolls to a degree, and the whole cult thing was clearly a joke. The crypto stuff...I think it was half joking but half real.
I've been around since day dot of Athene being a thing, and knowing all I know I still think it's absurd to say you don't trust Athene. He is one of the originals and even with all his trolling in the past, this guy went out of his way and spent 3 weeks of his time creating a content machine for these lackluster streamers who can't create their own entertaining content and all he got in return was people questioning if he can be trusted.
This man out here doing more for wow classic than 99% of players and he's getting hate. People fucking suck bro
So what is he doing for WoW classic? He made a addon for a streamer guild lul
@@gentlemandevils2983 Its downloadable so that means anyone can use it now id assume for thier own guilds.
they way you say : Athene, bring memories.
the tappers and fappers had their feelings hurt and dont want any of Athenes help even if it is a good product.
Where is Tania? 2010 squad unite
And OGFurious!
Tania is long gone.
Hey that’s what I was going to say, we need Tania back
So fast and so strong!
Screw the haters, keep making good content, you got this brotha.
It's great to see ya round the scene again. Keep ya head up.
Bro you are the OG of OG's respect to you! Glad to see you back!
Tbh I kinda miss when you were a presence in the gaming space, WoW, D3 etc. Not just the humor or even the world first stuff specifically, but the approach that you brought in new ideas and coming up with unique methods to succeed and approach to mechanics. Content like that on youtube feels so copypaste with creators and there's not a lot of people left who approach the games like that. Would be great to see you return to more game centric content.
Good to see u doing well!
The fact that you are willing to wipe anything related to you from the addon and give all permissions/ownership away AS WELL AS making it public for anyone who wants to review the code should be more than enough for anyone with a brain. I'll be honest I haven't even heard the name Athene for YEARS until I started watching OnlyFangs content from time to time. I hope they figure it out man, it's a great looking addon and it deserves to be used.
I remember this face from the Kripparrian interview
In my opinion these people outed themselves and should leave OnlyFangs, voluntarily, they don't have the best interest of OnlyFangs at heart.
glad to have you back making yt videos athene
Its insane ppl hating on athene, like wtf man. Dude was a politician and king of youtube. Ppl should respect athene, he was helping kids get food and ppl all the time. Media can really mess things up for no reason
Petty. I mean code is code, and if ownership transfer is being proposed then a code review can be done. Or can't they read code or interpret it? Jeez, beyond petty.
Everything went down when OG Furious left
I think it's beyond time to stop giving Athene shit.
10 years overdue
@@thefirechampion this is the space he thrives! When he goes on his righteous greater than thou arc it gets pretty de-lulu tbh.
@@beeziex haven't watched him in a long while but i know that he wont change
Amen
This is sad. I hope you bounce back and like get shit in there. Like not be sad but happy and successful and that excitement that I felt when I clicked on your VOD and Soda was addressing the add on comes back
That is a brilliant addon, what a dev!
This anti-Athene brigade need to set aside their ego's and move on.
Anti Athene group probably led by Mooncow...afraid of getting pwnd again
Mooncow and Tosog teamed up with Defias Brotherhood to take down Athenes app.
@@GoznerPeter I misread that.
Sick add on to be fair
Show the 1337 king some love ❤
2025 is crazy. Piratesoftware turning heel and Athene turning face 😂
Bro athene you made the game better plain and simple with this addon. Sometimes players like us are too legit. We get hate for it.
Athene is a good man. Those kids that dislike him are prob nobodies.
Not sure id call him a good man but i also dont see the problem with the add-on if its code-reviewed.
you're a pro or you're a noob. it's so easy. that's life.
You really can't help some people...
Grubby was the first who initially said he is fine with the current system of logistics. Didnt even look into the addon when he said it btw. And then openly said Athene is scam artist with his crypto and NFTs. There are twitch clips with these claims too.
@@reXisify So what? Start to think for yourself and dont only agree, because Grubby says something. It really comes across like this reading your comment.^^
@@antifaschi7869 Im stating how Grubby came across expressing himself about the addon and Athene.
What's his 'past'? Understanding the ultimate quantum nature of reality?
This seems so silly to be uncomfortable with this when youre offering them full ownership...its just silly
Do NOT let Abraham RP!
As I said in a comment reply, Athene went out of his way to make a content machine for these lackluster streamers that clearly can't make any interesting content themselves, or this idea wouldn't have spawned, and all they do in return is question him. The fact a code review was mentioned says all I need to know about these people. They think he's infecting/trolling them with his addon when all he did was try to help.
I know all too well about Athene's past, and even I think it's INSANE to think he's up to something sinister. Grow up.
Its cancel culture
You know I've been subbed to you since the old athene number one paladin in the world days. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for these people to actually just look you up and watch everything. It's also crazy considering the app is entirely open source.
lol people feeling uncomfortable about an add-on - mostly grown men crying about athene still LOL that type of reaction base is why I don't follow onlyfangs, they're literal children AND most of them trash at the game
I stand with Athene. One does not simply disrespect a WoW legend, stand your ground athene, the best paladin in the world shall redeem his legacy and return to greatness! keep up the good work, much love
Athene you are still a legend imo, and if people cant see that thats their loss! So glad to see you back in wow
brooo so sick add-on. gotta make a how to video for add ons. well done
The clowns that are doing the whole diggin into the past or whatever or trying to bring to light some supposed "facts" about you, is a total waste of energy.
Who cares, yah filthy weirdos. Even if Athene did do something bad, first of all, actually prove it, yah cringe losers. Second, again, yah cringe clowns, learn how to separate art from the artist.
Learn how to separate what a person says from the person saying it.
That's what matters, unlike your twisted world views where everyone needs to be an upstanding citizen to do a good deed. Nothing needs to be perfect or even good necessary for good shit to happen.
It's alright Athene. There's a major problem with these big streamers fanbases where they just make blind accusations based off random youtube videos with lack of any proof. Been watching you since I was 13 years old man, you're a true legend in my eyes and the true fans will always be here to watch.
Yep. Been a fan since his diablo 3 days in 2012. Damn those were the days
wdym no proof ? athen is a scammer and if a scammer says "hey i got this addon for you" ofc u have doubts xD
he rose to fame for his fake achievements just as he went down for the same thing, one might say he pulled an Elon Musk.
"blind accusations based off random youtube videos with lack of any proof" LMAO
Nice idol you have there.
@@niklashallden7795 Can you elaborate on what that doubt would be?
This addon is so good. It would make OnlyFangs so much more entertaining. People should use it even if they dont like or agree with you.
Im like 99% certain of who the real "upset" person was and who started the "we wont play if he's here or if we use this addon" ...it smells like shitty warrior that who claims to have had gladiator lol
you shouldnt have had to drop your branding, you havent done anything wrong. Keep it up bro, there are some honest non psycos out there like me that appreciate your work. Don't let society fuck you up. Also if you need a business analyst w/ some ML experience let me know
I understand where Soda and the people feeling uncomfortable are coming from but I also understand Athene. Very unlucky to see, this mightve helped smaller content creators make their own content reacting to deaths or vice versa , giving them exposure by the bigger streamers reacting to the deaths more frequently as its right there instead of being cherry picked by the community. Hated your past , Athene , wouldve loved a propper positive comeback. Godspeed
all you said was that you're gullible and fell for the false accusations.
It was Mooncow.
xD I can hardly believe that people still go crazy like that lol.
cognitive dissonance is strong
It's Athene the best pala! How can you hate Athene?! He was one of the first who warned us about censorship on internet!
i mean... if they dont want to use the addon then dont use the addon. But dont hold people hostage and make it where nobody can if they if they want too, thats fucking dumb
I wish they put stock in reality over rumours. Athene raised thousands for charity. Saved lives in other countries. He has helped way more than 90% of onlyfangs who are just clout chasers and fame hunters.
Since you're friends with ziqo, you should do a ZNN interview with him.
Then ask him why he cancelled Staysafe? Ziqo is such an ass.
This honestly looks like a sick add on for any guild. Being able to sell trade and help guild mates directly is an amazing idea. It also makes it guild interaction a lot easier.
People really hate athene this much?
Jesus people are so dramatic, dudes past is all over the internet to everyone to see and its fine. Im not even a fan and im saying this.
Cancel culture on its best, people that just sheep around canceling others are the weakest people on this planet honestly, weakest in all sense, zero logical awareness. But when talking about money some people are vulnerable, expression as milking the people some may find it funny as hell, but others find this to be a behavior they do not like at all, nothing to do with character, in my point of view
Always thought about making a kult that does the exact opposite: encourages people to be more social/self-improvement/participate in volunteer work/form small hobby groups etc.... but this makes me realize that all it takes is a few morons with accusations to bring you down. Then you have the more cynical people who don't care for the truth but are just glad to have ammo...
higaisathene
Only just found your making content again! Your a Legend Athene
Cool creation, and I've been enjoying the content man! Glad to see you back regardless as to how some others feel about it!
Athene was one of the best wow content, he deserves another chance to earn trust again. People make mistakes.
Art is NOT the artist. Knives aren't killers. Hammers don't build homes.
Regardless of your past, even IF all of it is true which I highly doubt, you in your current frame of mind and place in time made this. If it passes code review and is not found to contain no malicious actions or similar things then it SHOULD be used. This is very clearly a passion project by yourself created with the sole intent of allowing for easier access to and more content for these players / streamers. If those same people are willing to be stubborn fucknuts who would rather flaunt their supposed moral superiority then they don't need to use it, endorse it, or promote it. You do not have a gun to anyone's head screaming at them to download and tell everyone to download it and that they love you and you never did anything wrong and are perfect.
You built a tool. A GOOD tool. This is a hill worth dying on, and you should fight on it because they will all fold before they take you out. There aren't enough 2/10 halfbaked breadtuber hour long slopdrama ""documentaries"" any of them could shit out that invalidities the genuine good that your addon entails. PLEASE do not give in to the spastic whining of groupthinkers.
What a cool little addon and excellent idea. I think the angry ppl were just blizzard shills mad that you did it better. May your excellence be welcomed another time.
Also: twitch chat are some of the worst mouth breathing basement dwellers so don't listen to them.
Roosters my friend.
Amazing addon. I hope they use it, the death clips and reviews alone would be hilarious content.
Only fangs were really childish about it imo. Like there's nothing shady about the addon it looked fun and why can't they look past or even forgive what he did in the past it's not even relevant to this situation. Very vindictive behaviour.
Athene pretty much marked my childhood and early yt days. Yeah hes done some sketchy stuff in the past but also a lot of good. If he wants to start with a clean slate and bring back Athene I'm all for it.
So people are willing to quit the guild if they use the add on cause it was created by Athene ... If the people are feeling that uncomfortable about the add-on i'm curious as to what they really think about Athene and Maral joining the guild ? I think its fantastic that they both decided to give WoW another shot after all these years... the old school people appreciate seeing them both back in the game and i bet its only a handful of people that actually feel threatened and i bet these people complaining are not even the top players or streamers that really make up the core of the guild . The recent Drama to be honest has left a sour taste if the people think this sort of drama is entertaining it is not,alot of the streams have become so toxic and really not fun to watch and its unfortunate... As always when good things come around theres always something or someone that has to put a fork in it ...Cheers Cheezzwhizz
Guessing it was the same people that were "uncomfortable" with Pirate Software after the drama. So there's a few members that want to avoid everyone with a bad rep no matter what? I wonder who they are.
Athene you're a legend, the addon is legit. Regardless of your past this is a nice piece of professional quality addon development. It was great to see you back on warcraft !
People who have a problem with this addon need to get over themselves.
The post truth has gone in too deep... They can't separate a technical prowess from their beliefs... it's just sad.
And in onlyfangs that mob mentality has become worse and more evident in each drama iteration.
Had it been some kind of addon not so specifix for a guild, it would have been a massive success. (Just talking about the concept, I understand why this was tailor-made)
People hating athene are all weirdos that never even watched an athene video/
*ATHAAAAANE*
I love ya dude! Can’t tell you how much me and others needed Athene back. It feels so good!! Thank you for all that you do, but especially for Athene
Athene is redeemed
You should just put the add-on on curse Forge and make it so anyone can use it any Guild not just only fangs if they're going to s*** on your work and then take ownership and Fiat add-on for everyone I would love to use it for my guild
It's similar to the Pirate situation bro. Own up that you may have done some weird stuff, apologize if you have harmed anyone and tell everyone what you are about now. If you hold up to that, not only will you get the addon in the guild, but you can become a successful content creator again no doubt. Be honest and people will take notice sooner or later. That being sad, I still don't know what to think about you in all honesty, but I do wish you the best.
Best Paladin in the world btw.
At one time*
he is so bad, have u seen his gameplay? xD