yeah like the arlecchino drawing at 1:42 really screams fake. Its so obvious they didnt put any effort in the first drawing. Its great that people can benefit from free art tutorials online but faking improvement feels so unnecessary
You know, as a Chinese person, Little Red Book has some historical value... Also your pronounciation of the 'x' in 'xiao' is pretty good! and the 'hong' too :D
what bothers me about young artists is that they're so hung up about having an "art style". What they should've been worried about is learning the basic principles and foundation of drawing. Sure, having an art style is nice, but actually knowing the rules of drawing is so much more valuable in the long run
Yeah honestly this. You can't stylize until you understand how something actually works and make the decision on how to render things. Styles aren't made in a vacuum, they're developed over time from study and knowledge. I didn't settle on a defined style for 10 years and even then it's still evolving.
@@jayc7560 Ooh! Same! Kept changing art styles for the past 15 years now. But I think I finally settled on some, and that, I feel, is inner peace. At least for me.
I’ve been learning the fundamentals of traditional painting for a few years now, and just through painting portraiture consistently I’ve started to develop a style, but a style based in the fundamentals
i don't think people realize EVERYONE has an artstyle. it's not something to earn or get, if you draw something in a consistent manner, congrats, that's your style
XiaoHongShu does have some good tutorials, but i do mostly just use it for 'Pinterest' purposes, but small side note, as a Chinese person, your pronunciation is quite good! :D
i think xiaohongshu tutorials are virtually the same as any other tutorial but just chinese. i definitely improved after watching a few but a lot of things i already learnt from youtube.
It's just a different style? They do do certain things (e.g shading for anime style art) slightly different from what I've seen. Like every Asian country has their own slightly different comic art
@@tunmbleliterally this😭 I’m also Chinese and using XiaoHongShu is just like Pinterest people on TikTok as well has started using this XHS glazing to hate on the Chinese for “same face syndrome” but there are a lot of diverse styles, just like what is seen on Pinterest smh
I don't trust any "miracle cure" for artists to improve their growth. Every time a new tutorial or technique gets trendy and everyone treats it like their savior, it just sounds like snake oil to me.
I think the reason it’s seems to help people get better so quick just comes down to their skill level. Like beginner and early intermediate artist tend to improve in growth spurts so it would make sense that their results might exceed expectations. Climbing up the latter between early intermediate to intermediate and advanced is when your art tends to stagnate in terms of growth. Like if you don’t really know what your doing in terms of anatomy and rendering the tutorials might give you a jump start. Though if you have a more stylistic art style or more experience, the tutorials won’t do anything to help your growth.
I thought XiaoHongShu was a artist on tiktok at first 😭 I was like dang I meed to follow them for tips and surff since people always worded it as it was one person
The fake improvement videos are so obvious. They are exatcly like those mobile adds in the way they try to oversell the product by being blantantly disonest.
@tunmble probably, but the similarirties with those weird adds is there. Considering It is a New app, maybe they Just payed these artist to pretend to be begginers to promoter the app. But some improvement videos are more genuine and believable.
@@xadalau9758 people just use 'xhs improvement' as a way to show there art and get more views. also xhs is not new it was founded in 2013 it just started trending on tktok for some reason
Tutorials aint bad and yes it can change style but as long artists are happy with their improvement. People should not judge instead they knows it the artist choices not theirs. So they cant force artists not to improve or change. And those who pretend to be beginners take away space for actual beginners to rise.which is unfair.
literally this. i can't tell you how much i improved after taking tons of tutorials. learning different things from each and then mixing and mashin everything together. i still learn from tutorials till this day. can't recommend them enough
@MohammedAgbadi thank you for responding to my opinion. I belive we should not push new artists to think take tutorials is cheating instead new artists should take tutorials without being hated on
@@MohammedAgbadi I'd say, one flaw of tutorials is that they often push to do thing "one specific way" and people tend to follow them to the letter thinking "that's how it must be done". I think it's better to follow tutorials more liberally, to see the interesting concepts from them, but to not hesitate to deviate from them if we feel like we have a better idea to achieve a result.
Native Chinese speaker here. I've seen the art shorts on XHS, and most don't claim to be anything more than art tutorials. The original posters themselves don't usually claim you'll be "suddenly successful". most are just trying to calm new artists down by showing them their own way of drawing something to demonstrate that it's not as hard as beginners think. It's worth noting that it's all in Chinese because ALL western social media is banned in China, so they've made their own versions of practically everything. It's not a "red flag" for being all in Chinese, it was just made for a closed market and is intended to be available overseas for Chinese immigrants & study-abroad students.
Me 2 and a half minutes in: I bet my left knee this is another case where artists started posting 'bad' works at first then going full cg two or three posts later.
And lets not for get. They are the fault of bullying beginner artist off the platform and once well called them out they deflect it and play the victim
Xiaohongshu artists are basically artists who have actually learned the full fundementals, the fundementals that beginners HAVEN'T thought of learning which is the actual problem.
I mean, Xiaohongshu is never going to be the end all be all. I use it to try to draw in a manhwa or manhua artstyle because it really appeals to me. While the art tutorials have helped me, I think it's just a good way to get the foot in the door. It tries to make you think differently when drawing. The tiktoks faking improvement is NUTS though. Thats like going on pinterest for 5 minutes and then feeling like you can draw everything 🤣 Im so glad you covered this.
I absolutely hate the fake improvement thing also kinda off topic but does anyone else see all the shorts of people having captions saying “support 11-13 yer old artist” and feel like there may be some faking because of all these trends like the “pretending im bad at drawing to suprise people”
yes when i was about 17 i knew someone who pretended to be 14 who was actually 19 lol because their artistic ability was a lot more impressive if they convinced people they were a child. this was before social media, when artists were drawing/posting on oekaki boards (basically, a browser-based art program & forum). ive seen plenty of instances of it since then too. true, some kids can be extremely talented, but there are people that lie about their age for more engagement.
tiktok is waayyyy too obsessed with art style. art style is something that just comes naturally & this constant focus on it can cause stagnation. if you focus on the fundamentals instead, youll improve so much faster & wont be absorbing the mistakes that these artist peer tutorials have. i dont understand whats so boring about drawing from life especially, because even the most mundane things can be beautiful.. grass growing out from asphalt, a puddle after rain, sunlight filtering through trees, light reflecting off of a glass bottle, people just going about their day. there is beauty & inspiration to be found in everything.
It’s because they’re lying girlie❤it also used to be a trend back then to draw really badly then pretend you had major improvement in less than a week, it’s just that trend again but with Xiao Hong Shu
The way you deliver the information in your videos is very nice:) It’s always refreshing to see someone discussing “art drama” while actually supporting artists. Another great vid!
I think some people on the internet glorify "unique artstyle" too much, especially if they're coming from beginner artists. Because when I see them, imo their "unique artstyle" is just bad drawing, bad understanding of anatomy, or bad rendering technique. Before breaking the rules, you should learn the rules. And these online tutorials are just one of many vehicles to do that. I mean, nobody ever says someone who is learning master studies "losing their artstyle", right. What's the differences? Let new artists explore artstyles, sooner or later they will settle down to their own uniqueness, eventually.
Lets just save time and admit people suck and social media platforms help amplify the suckage. Artists need to ignore people who bring no good will and enjoy the art journey regardless of what other's cry about and where every it takes you.
I been drawing all my life, no need to rush learning, no social media, it's the most healthy aproach and every piece i made has heart and patience. The art is for me and no one else.
@@juanchopingo Honestly the best approach to it. I think a lot more people would like their art and grow far faster if they could come to that understanding themselves.
There is a really weird trend in art that I've seen that vilifies criticism (even if the artist asked for it) and disliking any kind of "improvement" on the basis that art is subjective. I feel like a lot of these people forget that a lot of the time, the artwork an artist puts out (especially a beginner) is not what the artist wants it to look like. To say that a shift in style, better application of anatomy, and the like is a "loss of charm" is soooooooooooooooooooooo destructive. especially if the new stuff is closer to what they see in their heads.
it's very ironic to me that in the past, there were soo much drama when it come to an art style not being "appealing" looking, like the recent Miku art drama, yet now those same people are the one complaining abt art looking similar and "copy and paste", acting like THEY weren't the one that set that system up.
thats why learning the fundamentals is a must for every beginner artist, if you cannot understand the basics of the subject you are trying to draw, even if its rendered and looks pretty, it will end up looking wonky because you haven't grapsed the full concept of the goal you have in mind. just keep practicing and studying anatomy, colour theory, etc, i won't say its easy because nobody is the same but instead i'll say it's fairly simple once you've got the grasp of it all. it will take a while but in the end you will achieve your dream if you continue to persevere 🎉👆
Guys please believe me and hear me out…. I actually learned so much from xiaohongshu and i use eyes and hair tutorial on my art PLEASEEEE DONT JUMP ME, IT HELPED ME FIND MY STYLE
My honest opinion abt xiaohongshu as an almost 1 year user, is how MOST of the tutorials are not at speed paint, montsly real-time with a little speed up, which makes it so easy to follow even without explanation, plus their picture tutorials like those swipe picture tutorials were so detailed yet understandable (btw I'm moots with the video of Arlecchino art, if i remember correctly, they just wanted to join with the trend so pls don't attack them y'all 😅)
tbf, tiktok is the last platform I'd think about when it comes to factual information lmao. The whole platform is just about making very short videos only meant to entertain for a short period and go over to the next. So people just look for ways to be viral
6:09 i love long hair, and like the after more because it looksmore soft and less animeish c: but the. Before is good too, nist not my taste. So actually doesn't matter what I or others think, as long as the artist has fun, they'll learn something from the tutorial and will mix those style probably in the future
4:14 for this tiktok, it might be a play on that old trend where they showed their new art first and be like "my old awful art before art school" and then show their old art and be like "my art after art school" kinda thing..
@1:45 Sometimes, the dumb stuff we see on tiktok is on purpose. It could Gen Z's "Rest of the F***ing Owl" meme; or like when the galvanized square steel and eco friendly wood veneer memes really took off -- it was so silly that people loved it, and they decided to make one too and ran with it. I feel like some of the xiaohongshu tiktoks were ads, and the rest were just memeing
Espera. Hay un pequeño texto debajo del video que dice "Con doblaje automático", es la primera vez que veo esta función, ya puedo escucharte, se agradece muchísimo! me suscribiré! ❤
This video has just made me even more glad I never downloaded tiktok. Unfortunately or fortunately, there are no "quick fixes" that will bring lasting and meaningful progress to an artists' skills. That's just how it is. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you're ALLOWED to take it slow, to mess up with your art, to make mistakes. It's completely fine and normal and an integral part of the learning process. It'll suck at times for sure, but keep going and keep creating and with time, you will refine your craft more and more. As for artstyles, I personally have given up on finding an art style. It's really not necessary for my own art so why stress myself out? Plus, I think it's kinda cool to be able to draw in multiple different styles. Whatever style conveys the message I'm trying to get across is the one that I'll use, no sense boxing myself in!
As soon as I saw the after on the first video, I called b.s. there were too many individual skills that they had improved in between them with no time to consider how to incorporate them into their art style, or even what precedence to give them. People need to stop looking for panacea solutions to problems we already know the solution to. Your art gets better when you become a more skilled artist, and when you practice. You also have to make as many bad pieces of art as you can, because those mistakes you make when you are pushing your limits are what teach you what to do when you want to make something big and good.
I feel like something thats being overlooked is when people say "unique artstyles" its usually about art styles inspired by western cartoons. I mean theres probably a lot of americans posting about these tutorials from a chinese app, everywhere around the world is going to see a certain style of art more than other places and anime is popular there while most of us americans grew up with shows like total drama island and when you said "I like anime" you were deemed weird. At the end of the day if someone doesnt want to draw western media inspired art then thats THEIR choice, not the publics :P
as an artist outside of social media im genuinely tweaking adter watching your videos to catch up on the latest art drama.. cause I genuinely cant believe this stuff is actually happening Like WHY is everyone always up in everyone elses business for no reason? why is the littlest thing made into a big controversy? when to me this stuff doesnt matter at all. i dont gaf if you some kid copies a tutorial “incorrectly”. literally not my problem. and then this stuff snowballs into a huge controversy with people constantly reacting, ranting and putting in their two cents just making it a bigger mess because of all the varied opinions. idk it just must be SO overwhelming to be on that app as an artist, i cant even fathom
My only problem with following art tutorials is that a lot of the time, an artist will try to imitate the art they're learning from 100% rather than learning the techniques that were used in the tutorial. Like those "how to draw " tutorials you get as a kid; they teach you how to draw one character in one pose, but not how to adapt the techniques of finding shapes in what you see and applying perspective and foreshortening or whatever else... So really it's a good place to *start* but too often the learning artist takes it as the end-all-be-all.
The thing that kind of bugs me about this stuff is how whatever gets popular kind of infects communities. I make most of my income selling in artist alleys. There's been a big increase in all the genshin fan artists simply looking the same. First time I saw it it was pretty. Now it feels so common I'm going to see it at Hobby Lobby soon. idek if they sell well because they all look the same and the longer you look at it the more flawed it becomes.
I saw someone saying that xiaohonshu helped their art, so I proceeded to say that their before art was kind of expressive the creator of the video later replied that the video is a satire that the after art style was actually their art style all along
I personally try to copy as much as i can as i study and train my art, once i understand how it works i shape it into my own style and go from there, that mostly being the reason my art style is always changing and modifying along the time
i mean the app isnt bad, it's low-key like reddit and Pinterest and tiktok (cuz content creators may have multiple platforms) and the people there are quite nice.( I'm Chinese so i use it like it's Google)
Just from the few clips I saw from the video about what the tips from xioahongshu, it definitely proves that some who was literally a beginner that jump to knowing some basic anatomy is too good to be true. It definitely looks like you’ll atleast need to know some background knowledge before proceeding with those tutorials or it might end up with a fail attempt or really just copy and paste.
So... The tutorial at 8:41 genuinely just helped me sm 😭 But about the actual topic of the vid, Beginners should focus on learning the basics of anatomy and color instead of trying to perfect a specific style. Having an art style is good but it's something that'll happen naturally after you learn the rules and slowly start breaking them when perfecting your version of stylization I've seen a couple Xiaohongshu tuts that have helped me improve esp in rendering hair and ik they're really handy, but a beginner starting off with them will run into a lot of problems along the line.
I used to be stuck in a lot of different art styles because i love many art styles and i wanted to apply it on my own, which ended up my paintings look like other artists' artworks, but when i tried to return and learn about an art style that really did my skills and favor, i focus on more the artists that has that favorite artstyles, learn and sometimes combine some features of it. Despite that i still learn about other artstyles rather different from my artstyle and combine it to my artstyle as well. In my opinion we can follow any tutorials that you feel like it, and you may change or apply it to your artstyle but should not be stuck too much in too many artstyles which can be difficult to improve your art, and you also have to learn to love your own artstyle, because its unique, and its you. (anyway my artstyle is a mix of semi-realistic anime and a bit of cartoony features).
ngl, i feel like having a copy and paste art style is not bad, y dont need a new artstyle thats different i feel like people are saying y have to make smth new with ur art. but thats not true i tried making a new artsyle i ended up doing it but i still feel happy with my old and 'overused' 'copy and pasted' artstyle as i think its what i perfer most, so telling and moaning abt a new artist finally getting good at a popular or 'overused' artstyle is just kind of annoying and damaging ( b4 i used to be rlly stressed because i thought my artstyle was too 'copy and paste' as someone said its all abt how the ARTIST feels abt their art not your or others opinions on what they make.
7:29 My art style is inspired by demon slayer and semi realism! I don’t ever stick to one tutorial or teacher, I make sure to keep consuming content from artists. As to, keep a unique style😄
I'll yapp abit about my experience after I install Xiaohongshu. Tbh Xiaohongshu made me improve better. it save my life :' In there I can understand more deeper about value, perspective, color theory etc. (not just basic but advanced) that tutorial on social media like RUclips/X feels like nothing or like beginner thing for me after I install Xiaohongshu. I was thinking like "omg there's still alot things to learn." and I was happy I am be able to learn tutorial from Chinese artist. >< also I wouldn't want my skills to stuck in the beginner-middle... so if you want to improve more, try Xiaohongshu! so yeah Chinese artist are all amazingg no doubt their skills is just ughrghhgg!!! even the beginner artist there is likely senior artist here :) (I mean in my country lol)
People improved so quickly just by watching some tutorial for 3 minutes when I can barely understand line art/rendering correctly for years and people gets so good in just a few minutes, I want to quit now not gonna lie, everyone is improving too fast and the art community is so toxic I give up ngl
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Honestly, it just sounds like the whole 'faking improvement' trend again. I swear, art TikTok has so much going on ;-;
😭😭😭bruhhh literally
yeah like the arlecchino drawing at 1:42 really screams fake. Its so obvious they didnt put any effort in the first drawing. Its great that people can benefit from free art tutorials online but faking improvement feels so unnecessary
This is so obviously a meme cmon
At least it’s not twitter
Its meant to be obviously fake & funny, like the one on 0:16.
3 minutes tutorial wont improve you that much, people just take stuff too seriously 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You know, as a Chinese person, Little Red Book has some historical value... Also your pronounciation of the 'x' in 'xiao' is pretty good! and the 'hong' too :D
haha thakyou!
(Little Red Book has stuff to do with a certain revolutionary)
@@PenguinsRCOOL178ah yes, that certain book from a certain Chinese dictator, i assume
truee
Thanks for explaining the joke. You ruined it.
what bothers me about young artists is that they're so hung up about having an "art style". What they should've been worried about is learning the basic principles and foundation of drawing. Sure, having an art style is nice, but actually knowing the rules of drawing is so much more valuable in the long run
I don't even know if my art IS an artstyle. Art is art for me and I don't see any reason to call it a style. I'd prefer an art process tbh
Yeah honestly this. You can't stylize until you understand how something actually works and make the decision on how to render things. Styles aren't made in a vacuum, they're developed over time from study and knowledge. I didn't settle on a defined style for 10 years and even then it's still evolving.
@@jayc7560 Ooh! Same! Kept changing art styles for the past 15 years now.
But I think I finally settled on some, and that, I feel, is inner peace. At least for me.
I’ve been learning the fundamentals of traditional painting for a few years now, and just through painting portraiture consistently I’ve started to develop a style, but a style based in the fundamentals
i don't think people realize EVERYONE has an artstyle. it's not something to earn or get, if you draw something in a consistent manner, congrats, that's your style
It seems every week or so tiktok has a new miracle equation to art that everyone *must* try
😭😭😭
Art teachers hate her! This one weird trick will make you draw perfect every time!
I get plenty outside that cancerous app , no thanks.
marketing strategy😂
XiaoHongShu does have some good tutorials, but i do mostly just use it for 'Pinterest' purposes, but small side note, as a Chinese person, your pronunciation is quite good! :D
thankyou so much!
i think xiaohongshu tutorials are virtually the same as any other tutorial but just chinese. i definitely improved after watching a few but a lot of things i already learnt from youtube.
imo it really just sounds like
thing: okay
thing but east asian: wow! so cool!
and im saying this as a chinese person
Yeah, they just look like average art tutorials with a few more things, yet people are recognizing it more but its from a chinese site??
It's just a different style? They do do certain things (e.g shading for anime style art) slightly different from what I've seen. Like every Asian country has their own slightly different comic art
@@tunmbleliterally this😭 I’m also Chinese and using XiaoHongShu is just like Pinterest people on TikTok as well has started using this XHS glazing to hate on the Chinese for “same face syndrome” but there are a lot of diverse styles, just like what is seen on Pinterest smh
I don't trust any "miracle cure" for artists to improve their growth. Every time a new tutorial or technique gets trendy and everyone treats it like their savior, it just sounds like snake oil to me.
Absolutely 💀
I think the reason it’s seems to help people get better so quick just comes down to their skill level. Like beginner and early intermediate artist tend to improve in growth spurts so it would make sense that their results might exceed expectations. Climbing up the latter between early intermediate to intermediate and advanced is when your art tends to stagnate in terms of growth. Like if you don’t really know what your doing in terms of anatomy and rendering the tutorials might give you a jump start. Though if you have a more stylistic art style or more experience, the tutorials won’t do anything to help your growth.
It dit work really fast for me but I agree with your point
Which makes me wonder, is Loomis method a scam or not?
@@ogurasyn2354 no. Loomis method is just a guideline meant to help.
I thought XiaoHongShu was a artist on tiktok at first 😭 I was like dang I meed to follow them for tips and surff since people always worded it as it was one person
I'm glad I'm not the only one 😂
It could totally be a name if written in different characters! Ah yes the famed "萧宏树" lmao!
I found out it was a platform through this video
@@astraphilia7462imagine someone naming their child 小红书 little red book 💀💀
The fake improvement videos are so obvious. They are exatcly like those mobile adds in the way they try to oversell the product by being blantantly disonest.
that's the point? its supposed to satire, it's just supposed to be a way to show off art since xhs is trending so it gets more views
@tunmble probably, but the similarirties with those weird adds is there.
Considering It is a New app, maybe they Just payed these artist to pretend to be begginers to promoter the app.
But some improvement videos are more genuine and believable.
@@xadalau9758 people just use 'xhs improvement' as a way to show there art and get more views. also xhs is not new it was founded in 2013 it just started trending on tktok for some reason
@@xadalau9758 xiaohongshu is just tiktok in china and is older than tiktok yall .....
Tutorials aint bad and yes it can change style but as long artists are happy with their improvement. People should not judge instead they knows it the artist choices not theirs. So they cant force artists not to improve or change. And those who pretend to be beginners take away space for actual beginners to rise.which is unfair.
literally this. i can't tell you how much i improved after taking tons of tutorials. learning different things from each and then mixing and mashin everything together. i still learn from tutorials till this day. can't recommend them enough
@MohammedAgbadi thank you for responding to my opinion. I belive we should not push new artists to think take tutorials is cheating instead new artists should take tutorials without being hated on
@@MohammedAgbadi I'd say, one flaw of tutorials is that they often push to do thing "one specific way" and people tend to follow them to the letter thinking "that's how it must be done".
I think it's better to follow tutorials more liberally, to see the interesting concepts from them, but to not hesitate to deviate from them if we feel like we have a better idea to achieve a result.
Native Chinese speaker here. I've seen the art shorts on XHS, and most don't claim to be anything more than art tutorials. The original posters themselves don't usually claim you'll be "suddenly successful". most are just trying to calm new artists down by showing them their own way of drawing something to demonstrate that it's not as hard as beginners think. It's worth noting that it's all in Chinese because ALL western social media is banned in China, so they've made their own versions of practically everything. It's not a "red flag" for being all in Chinese, it was just made for a closed market and is intended to be available overseas for Chinese immigrants & study-abroad students.
Me 2 and a half minutes in: I bet my left knee this is another case where artists started posting 'bad' works at first then going full cg two or three posts later.
not...quite...that feeling when knee surgery is tomorrow
@@MohammedAgbadiKnee surgey is tomorrow....
Little Red Book isn't really an alias as it is a literal translation of Xiaohongshu. Xiao = small, Hong = red, Shu = book.
My favorite thing to do is draw while listing your yapping
bro is fluent in yappenese
@@MohammedAgbadi real
@@MohammedAgbadi Keep on yapping my king
Lmaooo I’m literally doing that rn 😭
And lets not for get. They are the fault of bullying beginner artist off the platform and once well called them out they deflect it and play the victim
Then learn how to ignore, if you’re happy with it, it isn’t their problem to criticise you.
Xiaohongshu artists are basically artists who have actually learned the full fundementals, the fundementals that beginners HAVEN'T thought of learning which is the actual problem.
I mean, Xiaohongshu is never going to be the end all be all. I use it to try to draw in a manhwa or manhua artstyle because it really appeals to me. While the art tutorials have helped me, I think it's just a good way to get the foot in the door. It tries to make you think differently when drawing. The tiktoks faking improvement is NUTS though. Thats like going on pinterest for 5 minutes and then feeling like you can draw everything 🤣 Im so glad you covered this.
I absolutely hate the fake improvement thing also kinda off topic but does anyone else see all the shorts of people having captions saying “support 11-13 yer old artist” and feel like there may be some faking because of all these trends like the “pretending im bad at drawing to suprise people”
yes when i was about 17 i knew someone who pretended to be 14 who was actually 19 lol because their artistic ability was a lot more impressive if they convinced people they were a child. this was before social media, when artists were drawing/posting on oekaki boards (basically, a browser-based art program & forum). ive seen plenty of instances of it since then too. true, some kids can be extremely talented, but there are people that lie about their age for more engagement.
@ yup and when you question it your “against young artists “
tiktok is waayyyy too obsessed with art style. art style is something that just comes naturally & this constant focus on it can cause stagnation. if you focus on the fundamentals instead, youll improve so much faster & wont be absorbing the mistakes that these artist peer tutorials have. i dont understand whats so boring about drawing from life especially, because even the most mundane things can be beautiful.. grass growing out from asphalt, a puddle after rain, sunlight filtering through trees, light reflecting off of a glass bottle, people just going about their day. there is beauty & inspiration to be found in everything.
0:16
I literally teared up when i saw this HOW TF CAN U GO TO THAT IN LIKE 16 MINS?!?!? I CAN BARELY DRAW THE TORSO AFTER 10 TUTORIAL OF 1 HOUR
It’s because they’re lying girlie❤it also used to be a trend back then to draw really badly then pretend you had major improvement in less than a week, it’s just that trend again but with Xiao Hong Shu
The way you deliver the information in your videos is very nice:) It’s always refreshing to see someone discussing “art drama” while actually supporting artists. Another great vid!
Thank you so much!
I think some people on the internet glorify "unique artstyle" too much, especially if they're coming from beginner artists. Because when I see them, imo their "unique artstyle" is just bad drawing, bad understanding of anatomy, or bad rendering technique.
Before breaking the rules, you should learn the rules. And these online tutorials are just one of many vehicles to do that. I mean, nobody ever says someone who is learning master studies "losing their artstyle", right. What's the differences? Let new artists explore artstyles, sooner or later they will settle down to their own uniqueness, eventually.
and it’s funny that people actually hate on some artist who actually have unique artstyle
Yes yes yes
@@AikaPaoDAlhoFR😭🙏🏾
Lets just save time and admit people suck and social media platforms help amplify the suckage. Artists need to ignore people who bring no good will and enjoy the art journey regardless of what other's cry about and where every it takes you.
I been drawing all my life, no need to rush learning, no social media, it's the most healthy aproach and every piece i made has heart and patience. The art is for me and no one else.
@@juanchopingo Honestly the best approach to it. I think a lot more people would like their art and grow far faster if they could come to that understanding themselves.
The only XiaoHongShu I know is from my beloved Yap dollar.
LOL YESSS I WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS
finally found this
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There is a really weird trend in art that I've seen that vilifies criticism (even if the artist asked for it) and disliking any kind of "improvement" on the basis that art is subjective. I feel like a lot of these people forget that a lot of the time, the artwork an artist puts out (especially a beginner) is not what the artist wants it to look like. To say that a shift in style, better application of anatomy, and the like is a "loss of charm" is soooooooooooooooooooooo destructive. especially if the new stuff is closer to what they see in their heads.
it's very ironic to me that in the past, there were soo much drama when it come to an art style not being "appealing" looking, like the recent Miku art drama, yet now those same people are the one complaining abt art looking similar and "copy and paste", acting like THEY weren't the one that set that system up.
Hiiii, I’m one of the artists who’s in your desc, and I wanted to say thanks for using my video as a reference! (I luv ur vids!)
Im sorry but i cannot stop thinking about yapdoller when i hear the app name
Xiaohongshuuuu 💸
I’m simple I see Mohammed agbadi I click
That's a W in my book💖
I thought of returning to TikTok... thank you for changing my mind once again. Istg I would not survive an hour on that cesspool of social media
I love these type of videos help im obsessed
that's a good obsession💖
REAL
@@MohammedAgbadiHII!!!!
You channel literally makes me understand art so much more 🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️
thats why learning the fundamentals is a must for every beginner artist, if you cannot understand the basics of the subject you are trying to draw, even if its rendered and looks pretty, it will end up looking wonky because you haven't grapsed the full concept of the goal you have in mind. just keep practicing and studying anatomy, colour theory, etc, i won't say its easy because nobody is the same but instead i'll say it's fairly simple once you've got the grasp of it all. it will take a while but in the end you will achieve your dream if you continue to persevere 🎉👆
The Art Community did what with the Chinese Art Tutorial?! 🤨 Also: 6:20 Special Stage from Sonic 1? 👂🏿
yesssss hahaha!
Yap dollar has corrupted how i look at the words "xiao hong shu"
xiao hong shuuuu 💸💸🤑
Guys please believe me and hear me out…. I actually learned so much from xiaohongshu and i use eyes and hair tutorial on my art PLEASEEEE DONT JUMP ME, IT HELPED ME FIND MY STYLE
0:30 YES IT IS WORTH IT, EVEN IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE WORDS!! But obviously, it does take some time, so you do need to practice obv.
My honest opinion abt xiaohongshu as an almost 1 year user, is how MOST of the tutorials are not at speed paint, montsly real-time with a little speed up, which makes it so easy to follow even without explanation, plus their picture tutorials like those swipe picture tutorials were so detailed yet understandable (btw I'm moots with the video of Arlecchino art, if i remember correctly, they just wanted to join with the trend so pls don't attack them y'all 😅)
tbf, tiktok is the last platform I'd think about when it comes to factual information lmao.
The whole platform is just about making very short videos only meant to entertain for a short period and go over to the next. So people just look for ways to be viral
To me nothing good ever comes out of TikTok
alien stage smuggled their way in, i see. 7:23
lfg!!!
@@MohammedAgbadi i think you accidentally aged me a whole decade, bc i didn't know what Let's F0cking Go looks like as an acronym. 😹😭
Alnst mentioned!! Black sorrow!!
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WHY CANT THE INTERNET LET ME ESCAPE FROM MY ALNST TRAUMA😭😭😭😭😭
didn't know yap dollar dubs over art tutorials now
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@@MohammedAgbadi XIAOHONGSHU!!!!💸💸
6:09 i love long hair, and like the after more because it looksmore soft and less animeish c: but the. Before is good too, nist not my taste. So actually doesn't matter what I or others think, as long as the artist has fun, they'll learn something from the tutorial and will mix those style probably in the future
4:14 for this tiktok, it might be a play on that old trend where they showed their new art first and be like "my old awful art before art school" and then show their old art and be like "my art after art school" kinda thing..
@1:45 Sometimes, the dumb stuff we see on tiktok is on purpose. It could Gen Z's "Rest of the F***ing Owl" meme; or like when the galvanized square steel and eco friendly wood veneer memes really took off -- it was so silly that people loved it, and they decided to make one too and ran with it. I feel like some of the xiaohongshu tiktoks were ads, and the rest were just memeing
tiktok art drama just makes me glad I'm not posting art on tiktok
Every great artists style changes in small or large ways
I'm patiently waiting for them to recycle the "clipstudio pen asset will improve your art" lie that us artists believe. 😂
or recycle the "if you use the brush i use your art will look like mine so im not going to share my brush". a little throwback from the 2000s lol
Espera. Hay un pequeño texto debajo del video que dice "Con doblaje automático", es la primera vez que veo esta función, ya puedo escucharte, se agradece muchísimo! me suscribiré! ❤
This video has just made me even more glad I never downloaded tiktok. Unfortunately or fortunately, there are no "quick fixes" that will bring lasting and meaningful progress to an artists' skills. That's just how it is. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you're ALLOWED to take it slow, to mess up with your art, to make mistakes. It's completely fine and normal and an integral part of the learning process. It'll suck at times for sure, but keep going and keep creating and with time, you will refine your craft more and more.
As for artstyles, I personally have given up on finding an art style. It's really not necessary for my own art so why stress myself out? Plus, I think it's kinda cool to be able to draw in multiple different styles. Whatever style conveys the message I'm trying to get across is the one that I'll use, no sense boxing myself in!
As someone who doesn’t have TikTok I always get so confused whenever a new art drama appears
10:10 AI VOICE! IT HURTS MY EARS!
I will forever appreciate this guy for including subtitles in his videos:D
let's two worlds unite together
As soon as I saw the after on the first video, I called b.s. there were too many individual skills that they had improved in between them with no time to consider how to incorporate them into their art style, or even what precedence to give them. People need to stop looking for panacea solutions to problems we already know the solution to. Your art gets better when you become a more skilled artist, and when you practice. You also have to make as many bad pieces of art as you can, because those mistakes you make when you are pushing your limits are what teach you what to do when you want to make something big and good.
I feel like something thats being overlooked is when people say "unique artstyles" its usually about art styles inspired by western cartoons. I mean theres probably a lot of americans posting about these tutorials from a chinese app, everywhere around the world is going to see a certain style of art more than other places and anime is popular there while most of us americans grew up with shows like total drama island and when you said "I like anime" you were deemed weird. At the end of the day if someone doesnt want to draw western media inspired art then thats THEIR choice, not the publics :P
as an artist outside of social media im genuinely tweaking adter watching your videos to catch up on the latest art drama.. cause I genuinely cant believe this stuff is actually happening Like WHY is everyone always up in everyone elses business for no reason? why is the littlest thing made into a big controversy? when to me this stuff doesnt matter at all. i dont gaf if you some kid copies a tutorial “incorrectly”. literally not my problem. and then this stuff snowballs into a huge controversy with people constantly reacting, ranting and putting in their two cents just making it a bigger mess because of all the varied opinions. idk it just must be SO overwhelming to be on that app as an artist, i cant even fathom
I need to see a Muhammad adgbadi Anti Piracy Screen
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My only problem with following art tutorials is that a lot of the time, an artist will try to imitate the art they're learning from 100% rather than learning the techniques that were used in the tutorial. Like those "how to draw " tutorials you get as a kid; they teach you how to draw one character in one pose, but not how to adapt the techniques of finding shapes in what you see and applying perspective and foreshortening or whatever else...
So really it's a good place to *start* but too often the learning artist takes it as the end-all-be-all.
The thing that kind of bugs me about this stuff is how whatever gets popular kind of infects communities. I make most of my income selling in artist alleys. There's been a big increase in all the genshin fan artists simply looking the same. First time I saw it it was pretty. Now it feels so common I'm going to see it at Hobby Lobby soon. idek if they sell well because they all look the same and the longer you look at it the more flawed it becomes.
Dude I love watching your videos while drawing , great work!!
Ooww the audio tracks took me by surprise lol
I saw someone saying that xiaohonshu helped their art, so I proceeded to say that their before art was kind of expressive the creator of the video later replied that the video is a satire that the after art style was actually their art style all along
I personally try to copy as much as i can as i study and train my art, once i understand how it works i shape it into my own style and go from there, that mostly being the reason my art style is always changing and modifying along the time
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pookie wookie bear
your vids teach me to calm my shit down and be less toxic thx gog im not on tictoc i'd go so unhinged there if unsupervised
This feels like a low-key advertising campaign for the app lol
i mean the app isnt bad, it's low-key like reddit and Pinterest and tiktok (cuz content creators may have multiple platforms) and the people there are quite nice.( I'm Chinese so i use it like it's Google)
Just from the few clips I saw from the video about what the tips from xioahongshu, it definitely proves that some who was literally a beginner that jump to knowing some basic anatomy is too good to be true. It definitely looks like you’ll atleast need to know some background knowledge before proceeding with those tutorials or it might end up with a fail attempt or really just copy and paste.
3:43 omg I was hoping we would hear you say the ho at the end in your calm soothing voice 🤣
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FINNALLY NEW VIDEO
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3:42 whoever you are you got good taste in manhwas
i don't think a manwha romanticising 🍇 and abu$e counts as "good taste"!!!
xiaohongshu is my resident app for cooking videos lol
It’s the Koolen situation again.
This is why ya'll should do any art style you guys want. BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT EVERYONE KEEPS HATING TOT
It definitely isn’t the app’s fault, the content on TikTok is definitely a massive joke some people didn’t get
So... The tutorial at 8:41 genuinely just helped me sm 😭 But about the actual topic of the vid, Beginners should focus on learning the basics of anatomy and color instead of trying to perfect a specific style. Having an art style is good but it's something that'll happen naturally after you learn the rules and slowly start breaking them when perfecting your version of stylization I've seen a couple Xiaohongshu tuts that have helped me improve esp in rendering hair and ik they're really handy, but a beginner starting off with them will run into a lot of problems along the line.
Bro artists are so hateful for no reason on tiktok.
I wish to improve on my art and my anatomy more
same! i'm also working on mine and improving as well
Same, I'm trying to improve more by drawing more human bodies
10:27 ENA5 SPOTTED, THE WEDDING BELLS ARE CHIMING
MIZUENA GFSSS
i was here before the tiktok ban
blud invested early
I used to be stuck in a lot of different art styles because i love many art styles and i wanted to apply it on my own, which ended up my paintings look like other artists' artworks, but when i tried to return and learn about an art style that really did my skills and favor, i focus on more the artists that has that favorite artstyles, learn and sometimes combine some features of it. Despite that i still learn about other artstyles rather different from my artstyle and combine it to my artstyle as well. In my opinion we can follow any tutorials that you feel like it, and you may change or apply it to your artstyle but should not be stuck too much in too many artstyles which can be difficult to improve your art, and you also have to learn to love your own artstyle, because its unique, and its you. (anyway my artstyle is a mix of semi-realistic anime and a bit of cartoony features).
The translation is so goofy, the "excuse me" meme was fcked up XD
9:28 IM SORRY BUT THE AI TTS VOICE THINGYS ARE HILARIOUS I CANT STOP LAUGHING IM SORRYYYY
I watched a three minute video on bili bili ( it’s like RUclips in China ) and learnt how to draw .fantastic looking hair.
ngl, i feel like having a copy and paste art style is not bad, y dont need a new artstyle thats different i feel like people are saying y have to make smth new with ur art. but thats not true i tried making a new artsyle i ended up doing it but i still feel happy with my old and 'overused' 'copy and pasted' artstyle as i think its what i perfer most, so telling and moaning abt a new artist finally getting good at a popular or 'overused' artstyle is just kind of annoying and damaging ( b4 i used to be rlly stressed because i thought my artstyle was too 'copy and paste' as someone said its all abt how the ARTIST feels abt their art not your or others opinions on what they make.
It feels hypocritical now since kooleen had this copy and paste and everyone criticised her so now everyone saying this is something.
7:29 My art style is inspired by demon slayer and semi realism! I don’t ever stick to one tutorial or teacher, I make sure to keep consuming content from artists. As to, keep a unique style😄
I'll yapp abit about my experience after I install Xiaohongshu.
Tbh Xiaohongshu made me improve better. it save my life :'
In there I can understand more deeper about value, perspective, color theory etc. (not just basic but advanced)
that tutorial on social media like RUclips/X feels like nothing or like beginner thing for me after I install Xiaohongshu.
I was thinking like "omg there's still alot things to learn."
and I was happy I am be able to learn tutorial from Chinese artist. ><
also I wouldn't want my skills to stuck in the beginner-middle... so if you want to improve more, try Xiaohongshu!
so yeah Chinese artist are all amazingg no doubt their skills is just ughrghhgg!!!
even the beginner artist there is likely senior artist here :)
(I mean in my country lol)
Me because i have Xiahongshu Since im a chinese that Just moved out from china and have to Catch up with Their trends T-TTT
YOO MY GOAT :3 MY FAVORITE YAPPER
W Yappanese enjoyer
I forgot xiao hong shu was an actual web site and not a random phrase yapdollar would say 😭😭😭
Im from vietnam here and i can tell you yes he's telling the truth i saw a copy myself and it was produce after chill guy
Didn’t realize the yap dollar was doing art tutorials now, good for him!
Help i got an Xiaohongshu ad the moment i watch this video😢
All I hear is xiao-honk shoo and it makes it so hard to focus😭
I thought they were talking abt yapdollar "Xiao hong shuuuu" 😢
People improved so quickly just by watching some tutorial for 3 minutes when I can barely understand line art/rendering correctly for years and people gets so good in just a few minutes, I want to quit now not gonna lie, everyone is improving too fast and the art community is so toxic I give up ngl
4:07 I think old art is more unique but is messier. The new one is cleaner but more basic and "boring"
I laugh how so many believe everything on TikTok 😂. As soon as I hear the word TikTok I go - what bs has been excreted 😂
Why is this little spider man plushie getting more my attention than the actual video-