I don't why people was BLIND for MIHEE'S talent until now i can't move on that she lose,AGHH Did you'll see her performance?Her performance is the definition of all rounder!
@@lovesserafim9227 34 grade for all rounder got 400 and 12 grade got 600. So Mihee lost on her round by 200. The final score adding the other rounds turned out to be tied as previously 34 grade was ahead by 200
@@irislemon I know what the scores were hun but thank you I was talking about the ending number and she only lost due to it possibly being rigged that’s why everyone was shocked
Mihee is the real ace of the all rounder battle. Even without the fancy props, she shined on her own. Sarang maximizing her ideas in her stage doesn’t mean she’s better. If you listen to her performance, she was breathy and her voice cracked. Her dance is not better than Mihee, the same with her rap. Her winning seems like a joke just to give a spot for the second graders in the debut line. It’s unfair for Mihee but it’s just the way it is in a survival show. Popularity is more important than talent.
sigh i could only agree that there is this way of thinking from the majority of those people. but they sure bet im now team mihee bc of that performance! thats the only thing they cant deny really, it’s her skills that shone through that stage
For me Mihee is the winner for the ACE all rounder coz she sings, rap and dance a song sung by 4 amazing ladies. So yeah shes the true winner and I cant stop watching her performance. Soyeon as her mentor makes her more look like Soojin of G-idle. 👍🥰🎉❤
I didn't believe it was a tie tho. Mihee did better. Sarang ain't bad, but the score didn't give justice to Mihee's performance. Money is Lisa's song and Next Level is by Aespa, a 4-MEMBERED GROUP. Mihee perfectly showed an all-rounder stage performance, all points and parts covered by just her. I still think they did that so they can give the 2nd graders a spot in debut group. Like bruh? Stick to your concept. It's too bad, but if it is elimination, then u should eliminate them. The result just eliminated some contestants who doesn't even deserve to be eliminated.
When the two all-rounder performance was done, I felt bad for the 2nd grade because judging by the performances, Mihee deserves a score higher than 500. I thought Mihee would take the win and the 2ndgrade won't get a spot. Whatever u say, this is rigged. wOw a pErfEcT 200 thAt cOvErS the gAp? Obviously, we can't change it but I hope Mihee knows that she won that round. I hope she reads this comment section and knows that they did her dirty and it was unfair.
+ She added original rap to Aespa song, so she Def is all rounded. And I love her rap, you don't have to hit it hard to be a good at it. She did it so well.
But sarang didn’t choose to sing a song that was by only one person if she did next level she would’ve still crushed it! I’m my opinion she did better than mihee idk what it was but after a bit mihees performance got boring for me idk why
@@Marwa-tp6rb I ain't blaming Sarang for the song choice. The song distribution is obviously unfair even in other performances. I respect ur opinion and that u prefer Sarang's performance, given that we have our own judgements and preferences. But the category asks for an All-Rounder performance, and in my opinion, Mihee showed that one. She had a dance break to show dance, sang with beautiful and stable voice, made an original rap, on point facial expression, good impact even without fancy props, she just shined. No doubt that they are both good, but if I have to weigh their perf I'll go with Mihee. Sarang's a little out of breath in some parts and I didn't like the low energy on the first part, and I feel like without the money props it would be boring and not impactful, but that's just my opinion and observation alone, no biggie.
@@nicolekellyong7878 Yup. And i think, the judges (esp Soyeon) all aware with that, the rigged, but they just going along with that. Since it will be so much, if they against that.
The sad thing is that the songs where not fair. Money has an average dance level, a high rap level and a low vocal level, meanwhile next level has a high rap level, average dance level and high vocal level, if it was an al rounder battle why was one song harder than the other? Also why giving one of the girls a song for a SOLOIST and the other a song for a group… of course a song made for a group will be harder because its not made for one person to perform alone… its regretful
Exactly, they both should’ve performed the same song. It makes no sense how one trainee is singing a group song while the other is singing a solo song.
That is why it is called all rounder bcoz she can do all. No offense but the one who sang the Aespa's song is much better. Both of them are talented but I think people are just focusing on performance rather than vocals.
@@sashimiakali I agree I preferred mihee (I think that’s her name?) Her performance was well balanced and she didn’t need any props. I feel like go sara only won because the props made her performance more grand.
Mihee didn't even do the vocally challenging parts so it was fair. Her dancing overall was much weaker than Sarang's. I really enjoyed both performances and both girls are favorites of mine but it was clear as day that Sarang should win
@@celestielsigh actually the parts she did are challenging and specially more challenging than any vocal part In money and since money had props and things in stage it was not fair
People fail to realize that Mihee performed a song that is done by a group. Money is a song performed by one person. The song choices had to be fair. Also, why would the props matter for an all rounder. Having props is not talent. Sure it does help make the look of the performance look nicer but it doesn't really change the quality of the dancing or the singing of a contestant. As judges, they should have focused on the performance itself and not be swayed by props because anyone with half a talent can use props too but that doesn't mean that they're better than those that didn't
But are you serious? Do you know that the people who vote are the audience? That's why it's a problem, if it were judges, they would have definitely voted for Mihee, but it was the audience. The props did make a difference for the impact it gave to the audience.
@@dbfjjdbdb.2091 no i know that! When i meant judges I meant the people who voted. My bad. This was not the first time they made the wrong call on these votes.
@@ariathefirst6495 Oh I see, don't worry, the audience can be called judges too, it only needed clarification! Don't worry about it, I agree and that's the problem with this show.
I hate the idea that two 11 years old girls will debut, it's kinda gross they are way too young. I wish it was 3 from the 4th grade and 2 from the third and second grade
@@mgs1813 they have, the problem is that most of them still have to turn 13, and if they won’t look at the age voting, there’s a great chance they’ll let a 11/12 years old debut. And then there were people mad over Leeseo AHAHAHAHAHA
I am not saying Sarang didn't deserve her win, because she did amazingly, but I DO NOT BUY that it was genuinely a tie. Had the juniors/seniors won (which they were in the lead to) sophomores would have been entirely eliminated by default because they would not have a spot in the debut team. Its such bullshit. No way in hell that actually happened and now 3 girls from the older team were unfairly eliminated and a spot was taken away from each class. Mihee obviously won and they couldn't have that because it would have deleted an entire class (not to mention it means Yuri wouldn't have a purpose on the show anymore)
“this show is rigged” y’all are now just realizing it ?? it’s obvious mbc is pushing for the debut lineup to mainly have 1st and 2nd graders. notice how majority of the evil edits, bad song choices, zero props, etc all came from the 3rd and 4th grade groups … how some of the 1st and 2nd graders got pity edits on their struggles to debut acting like this isn’t half of the 4th graders and some 3rd graders last chances to debut themselves. i don’t like how two 08 liners are going to debut with an 01 liner like that’s so awkward it’s like you’re babysitting someone’s child … majority of the watchers also want the lineup to be 11 spots (i also want the lineup to be 11) like this is just giving me chuang 2020 flashbacks (besides the whole companies buying votes stuff)
I too want 3rd and 4th graders to have more spots. But the age difference is not that much of a big deal for groups as we've seen multiple times. Off the top of my head, the age difference between the oldest and youngest in X1, 2NE1 and Iz*one was 9 years. 10 years in Wanna One I think. And these groups did just fine when they were promoting as far as we know. That said, I still feel as if the older contestants should be considered more as their time to debut is limited. But in all, the most talented ones should get to debut.
@@Zeighla i don't think it is a matter of the age gap but the matter of the age itself. I mean a 17 yo would not necessarily need attention and care but a 12yo would definitely have. I also don't like the idea of getting anyone that young to debut in the showbiz but hey, who am i to speak.
Honestly, I'm kind of partial to two small groups, a 4-member for the two younger years and theb7-member lineup for the older ones. Hell, we could have just had an 8-member lineup with two members from each grade and that would have been nice too.
The 1st Graders are talented, there was no question about that. It was just awkward seeing them with the 4th grader once they debut. About Mihee, I felt bad about her. Her performance was more powerful than Sarang. Her voice, rap and even dance were shown. Sorry to Sarang's fans. Sarang did a great job, but at the dance break, my eyes were focused on the dancers at the back than her moves.
@@바보Queen I’m saying it cause there are two 1st grade spots now your just hating she doesn’t suck and I’m not talking about the other 3rd and 4th graders only two of them from each grade go in so
The energy in the studio was obviously off when they announced the 2000 v 2000 result, nobody believed it and it's obvious Mihee was supposed to be the winner. Yumin and Suhye were both unfairly sent home because of this rigged result and I am pissed off.
Ikr , 3rd and 4th grade should've won and that would give them two sopts each , and korean people are too desperate to debut the young ones so they rigged th system.
I can understand why though. If there is no debut spot for 2nd grade, all people in that grade won't do anything on the next episode. Their dream is crushed because they have no debut spot I reaaally want 3rd and 4rd grades to win a lot of spot, but now I saw the show, I feel bad if no one debut in each of the grades
@@finnrogue9435 since the start we need to cut 1st grade, no hate, but they still too young..., 2nd grade can accepted, but 1st one... still too young, and they got 2 spots... haishshhshshs
I feel like if they were gonna rig something they should’ve rigged the 1st grade out. Because those girls are soooo young. Like imagine a 11 year old being in a group with a 20 year old…
mihee's performance was much better. also boss bitch was miles better than mic drop yet the margin was smaller than decalcomanie vs I even though I and mic drop both had mistakes. idc, 3rd and 4th grade shouldve won by like 600 points more overall
@hello i think even if jiwoo didnt make a mistake decalcomanie would still win because decalcomanie is kinda more hype and people would prefer that over a ballad. the song choices did the 3rd and 4th grades dirty.
@hello chaewon did sing a high note, but actually jimin sang even higher HAHA she sang a G5 (but it was quite short so), chaewon sang until E5 and belted, nonetheless i felt that it was an unfair match
not to mention, sarang had backup vocals which can be heard very clearly. mihee neither had it nor did she needed it. lee mihee doesnt need fancy props to hype up the crowd, she doesnt need to depend on a soloist and global song to make it worth it, she doesnt need backup dancers during a dance break that is supposed to showcase HER skills, because frankly speaking i was watching her dancers more than her. she also doesnt need mbc to rig shows so that grade 2 can have a spot. lee mihee outshone on her own, she did so well, perfect everywhere be it stage presense, vocal, visuals, rap, dance, expressions, stability, charisma. she won fair and square. even sarang supporters have been commenting that mihee deserved that win more than their fav, so mihee haters cant even argue with that kinda logic. if grade 2 had won a spot earlier, mihee would've won fairly here. SHE IS THE ACE.
for rap performance, 3rd and 4th grade should've won with a HUGE margin too. They even made their own lyrics unlike 1st and 2nd grade. The mentors are biased by asking 3rd and 4th grade to write their lyrics but not with 1st and 2nd group. Also mihee was done dirty, they gave her no property at all meanwhile sarang got all of those properties.
Yeah there wasn't a huge difference in the votes, we're talking 200 difference even though the 1st and 2nd grade performance was pretty bad and messy in my opinion, the on-site voters pretty much like voting for the younger ones just because they're "cuter"
Soyeon told them to write their own lyrics because itd make them stand out more if aiki or yuri didn’t tell the youngers to write their own lyrics that’s on them
To be honest, I'm NOT sure if Mic Drop stage has changed the lyrics, all I know is that what you said ' 3rd and 4th grade should've won with a HUGE margin' is definately right, 1st and 2nd grade's stage was a bit dull and I find it too like childrenish, you know what I mean? If not it's ok. But the gap of the rap unions are so different, I really did go though the vibe with 3rd and 4th graders.
Mbc should have the same type of song, sarang got a solo singer who is a dancer meanwhile mihee got a group singer and alot of high notes, that's not fair
Aespa ning ning and winter have really powerful vocal but minhee did it all alone! We definitely can see that minhee is really good all rounder and she's better than sarang. But why minhee didn't win. Money and next level are definitely different songs! Next level is really difficult song but minhee sang without mistakes. I want to ask the audiences "Don't you guys have eyes!?"
3rd grade got so less vocals left, like the most stand out 1 left is Jiwoo The rest sings well but compared to the eliminated 1s, they were not as good
OMG i have been saying this all the time , Suhye was such a good vocalist and she got eliminated . How can they become popular they havent done anything to advertise them . The pretty ones get most votes . So they are outright calling them not pretty . Its so upsetting i really liked suhyes vocals
Remember that Mi Hee debuted as Main vocalist of Botopass, I also noticed that she's the center of her group and alsohere in My Teenage girl. She was the song starter, her charming charismatic visual is eye-catching. She can dance (4th graders praised her together with Hyeju), she can sing (as I said she was the main vocalist of Botopass, she is the song starter or the first center of the performance (Same Same DIfferent, Balck Mamba, Hello Ladies, and now she was stable on her next level and did the best on the pre-performance that's why she was chosen as the ace) she can rap, there is something on her voice that I love to hear it is attractive and charismatic. Mi Hee debut!
honestly, I don’t exactly get why they left *all* the votings to the audience. Why weren’t the mentors allowed to take a vote too? The mentors would’ve voted fair & square according to the capabilities of everyone, judging if they’ve really improved or not.
The judges only received votes for the entrance exams. For the live performances their only role is to manage the stage and guide the girls through giving their best performance.
@@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia yeah I understand that part. But especially for this incident when the votes were tied - I just feel like maybe the mentors should’ve been given the chance to put in their votes as well :/
@@hiyq omg right they should definitely vote if it happened cuz 4 is way too little and could affect their votes too much (also I wish elimination/debut votes should exclude audience votes from the performances, why do they have to have so much control 😒 there's already global votes from fans... There enough votes from non professionals)
the moment is saw the props i said 'game over' because it made the stage fancier also the song is more powerful than mihee's one. Edit: I was NOT hating on any trainee out here, mihee is my favorite also, stop fucking twisting my words and gtfo.
@@hiniraeth6893 Sarang better???tf thats not true, if she was better then they wouldnt give her all the backup dancers, elegant scenario and all that shit that mihee didnt had
She was unfairly eliminated because of how bullshit this show is, it was clear mihee won but they for sure rigged her votes so that grade 2 can get a spot. This is so unfair for mihee, she didn't deserve the manipulation and so as the other two that was eliminated unfairly.
If she will not debut after this show, she will get other chances, because she is very very good. Her model Soyeon passed tru 2 survival show and ended debuted as solo and leader of G Idle.
MBC needs to add more members for the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th Grade spots, two 1st grader is enough for the final line-up since they're too young. Seonyu and Boeun seem pretty lock-ins for those two spots. Dear MBC, we don't mind having a 12 member group
This is not produce 101 season 1 or sixteen. These kinds shows have been going on from a long time and the lack of learning from the past really shows. Going off voted from 2 weeks ago is not fair at all and I hope the production team fixes it.
Seiously! They never even showed off Yumin until this past episode. I guarantee she would have shot to the top after her rapping performance, but now she's gone.
its feels rigged tbh. the chances of having tied total votes is unlikely especially if there were 4 rounds. what were the odds that the votes from the audience throughout the 4 rounds would be tied 🙃
i really thought that mihee ws popular among knetz cause she really stood out to me since same same different but apparently she's not that popular. she's the real ace honestly. she rapped giselle and karina's rap, sang winter's lines, and did ningning's high note perfectly also the dance break was so good. its sad to see a really great all rounder trainee being treated like this :(
Keep in mind that this is a popularity and not necessarily a talent contest. This is going to end in heart break for someone because limited spots and the front runners have been decided by popular vote 1st grade - Sun Yoo and Bo Eun look like locks for 2 spots because they are all around most mature looking for their age(eek!). I liked Jung Siwoo because she had attitude... But was eliminated. 2nd grade - 1 spot to be fought over by for Minami, Riwon or Ji Min. You think the producers want Minami but Riwon is popular with the voters(Korean). I think Ji min would best match the older 3rd and 4th graders plus she can sing. 3rd grade - yoon jung and Hyun Hee seem to be the front runner. Yun Seo and Ji Eun could be in the conversation but I don't see them overcoming the popularity of the top 2. 4th grade - Chae yeon and Yoo Yun are the favorites for 2 spots which is too bad for Mihee, Hye Ju, Hari, In Hye, Hyun Seo.... Yerim highly skilled but no chance of breaking in because she can't overcome the popularity of the visual members.
I didn't want to have anything invested in any of the trainees, I mean it doesn't matter who debuts really because their essentially interchangeable. But it's a little disappointing to know that for the 4th grade and some 3rd grade contestants, this could be the last chance. What I mean is that some of them need to be in a group because they can't be soloists. But the flip side is that some are so good, they may not mesh in a group because they could outshine the other members. In the end, it's whoever the producers want to create a cohesive group and as we see, they are not above doing voting or performance manipulation to steer their agenda.
Soyeon was right, rap cover just helps to improve your flow, you can't bring the others whole verse on stage. Only showing your own flow by writing your own lyrics is called rap
There are two sports for the seniors and I really hope Chaewon, Hyungseo or minhee wil debut. (Chaewon is my absolute fav I love her voice sooooo much)
honestly, mihee had more charms while sarang had more star quality. however, both did super well and i wish both aces got the win. i hope the best to both contestants and hope they debut!! fighting sarang and mihee!!
Mihee performed in another level. In the Money stage performance, Sarang sounded a bit exhausted and was like eating some words up (for me). Mihee aced her vocals (she was singing most parts live + she hitting those high notes uGh 😩✨) and rap, as well as the dancing (girl, she was on point). The fact that next level is a group song, yet Mihee did exceptionally well - she was the winner for me. robbed hmmp- still props for Sarang in winning the all-rounder stage.✨💕
4 Points I think to consider in MBC taking this " it's a tie" route: 1 - the 2nd grade haven't won any matches yet and if they lost it would look like "Yuri was a bad mentor"(And would look like people that are not "legacy" and are her juniors are better then her...) and no 2graders would get a spot. 2 - from the start the youngers got easier or more captivating songs to perform. 3 - The Ace competition should have been a battle between two soloist songs. It was to easy do sarang even copy Lisa's outfit, hair And dance routine when mihee had to pretty much modify a song made for 4 people that is well know for it's angles and cameras moves while performing and vocals. 4 - They first graders are too young too match with rest of the other grades, with a few exceptions that can perform diverse concepts. The others look like little kids in a school show. I think MBC will do a round of "something" to try switch a spot on debut team between grandes. Extra: I just can't with all the crying with them... Everytime.
I am really hoping that some companies contact these kids and sign them on to debut. Or MBC debuts a second group similar to the "runner up" groups that came out of Produce and Produce 2.
That wont be happening anymore cause my dream team of Hyunhee+Jieun+Yoonjung is broken.....dont know whos gonna make it between Yoonjung and Jieun or Yunseo
Im pretty confused when it comes to the debut spots. maybe its an issue with translation, but I understood, that the top 2 of the currrent performance will be given the 2 spots of their grade. But not all other girls would be eliminated? That for me makes only sense if theres still another chance to get into the debut group. I also find the elimination system a bit weird. I only have watched youth with you 2, so I cant compare to other korean shows, but I found the way ywy2 handled eliminations a bit more clear (and I feel like I overall got to see more of training etc.) Live show, winning group gets additional points that all get added to online voting and only after the show has aired voting ends, so the viewer could consider the live shows for their voting as well (I believe, I could be misremembering though). And then we get the final results with the lowest rankings eliminated. Feels less random than having results of the live show determine, which group has to eliminate someone.
However this kind of concept have been used by Mnet from the start since produce 101 so they can't do the same.. since they want to make it looks different
My guess is there is a chance a different trainee will be swapped into the debut line up based on online voting and the lineup they announce in episode 9 will be just based on the current performance
I'm also confused as this contest round would only last for 2 episodes (9+10) so what would they do with 2 episodes left? I mean the girl already battle each other in the same class to choose the spot in the debut lineup so another battle would not make any sense.
So much potential on 3rd and 4th grade, I can't imagine just 2 from each also Mihee was so so good singing a group song also showcasing her rap and dance, really befitting for all rounder performance.
im more agree to adding few more slot for the final debut lineup members than 7 spots... rather that they have unfair voting result that might upsetting and make people angry... who's votes for these girls...
Bro just reviewed the whole my teenage girl show, I spent my whole time watching just to realize that they're just going to retell episodes 9 and over.
i still didnt get whyyy jung si woo being eliminated, shes very good thoo, her dance , her ability to rap, her voice & her face expression is really strong compared to other candidate in her grade : ((((((((
To tell the truth it feels like the score tie was created by production team. Just image if grade 3 and 4 winned there will be no second grader in final lineup meaning whole grade could just go home. Which is not a good outcome for first season of idol survivor show. But to make Sarang win against Mihee by too many votes that will change the winner of whole competition would be too much and too obvious so they went with the tie and no final battle because once again it could easily end with 3+4 grade winning, leaving 2nd grade without a place in final lineup.
Here after watching episode realizing Mihee, Won Jimin, Youngchae, and Sunyoo become candidates for disqualification. I was to let go the forced giving-a-spot-for-second-graders but the longer it takes, it's getting more annoying.
I still feel so frustrated with the rules of this show… Why someone made a mistake at the vocal battle is still here and why the girl who win at the dance battle was eliminated??? And according to the personal ranking, Taerim’s ranking is not low! WTF… That ice cream girl must have some strong background to support her heh Which makes her still in the show with bad vocal…
When I saw Mihee and Sarang's vs for "all-rounder", Mihee managed to make me like Next level (although the song is not my favorite) she gave her all, singing, dancing and with a super stable voice, I was very surprised by that , but when I saw Sarang's performance I felt uncomfortable because although she danced amazing her rap was not the best since her voice wanted to break at times or she breathed very hard (which tells me that she was not using a good singing technique) and how this is "all-rounder" I lack her vocal ability, but her staging was much better with an explosive ending and I thought "she's going to win since for people in general the staging is more important or calls for more attention than the skills "So I was not surprised by the result, I feel that it was not very fair with Mihee and although they can say that Money is rap, the truth is that Sarang was able to play a little with the song to be able to show herself singing, dancing and rap.
I can’t believe that people were so blind for Mihee’s performance, like she performed an song from a 4-MEMBERED GROUP, that is called a real all-rounder, Sarang was good too but the money blown as confetti doesn’t make any sense, like ok? Here we care about the talent, not the confetti or other things at all, well in conclusion, MIHEE WAS THE REAL ALL-ROUNDER
I also think that the 1st grade girls need more time before debut...however, as a whole they have the most talent. I wish that the 3rd and 4th grades took more spots as some 9f them have been trainees for a long time....but doesn't that also say that they might not have what it takes to be an idol.
This part is actually sketchy plus the songs assigned are kinda unfair. It is very obvious what songs can easily hype the audience. The staff should have at least chose songs with the same level/type/vibe. For example, the I and Decalcomanie performances, these two songs have different vibe. Next Level and Money too have different vibes. Same with the dance performances, one already has a choreography while the other one doesn't have (tho if we have to analyze, grade 3 & 4 are a bit in a disadvantage here bcos they have to create their own choreo idk correct me if im wrong). The tie scores are kinda sketchy since the 2nd grade is at risk. There's a part of me which thinks that they only made this so even 1 from the second grade can debut. And I totally understand other's sentiments that 1st graders are waaaay too young to debut so it's kinda off for me that two spots were given to them. I just think that this isn't a right time to debut 11-13 year olds. Idk it's just kinda unfair, especially to those who got eliminated but did so much better than those who did not get eliminated. But yeah this is the down side of survival shows. Popularity > Talent.
I smell something fishy here. the fact that so many people agree that mihee won, and that the final score was evenly 2000 for both is crazy. Do you think mnet rigged the votes again to ensure that 2nd graders also have a spot on the final lineup? Think about it, if mihee won (which i believe she did), then the final lineup would only have freshmen, juniors and seniors. Then what happens to the sophomores? All eliminated? I think this was mnet's way to keep the other grade in the competition
Love how “s-xiness” is being taught as “confidence” That’s not what being a women is about, why would you teach young girls that? But y’all want to say it’s idols ruining the view of young girls, and it’s the companies promoting it. This is the problem, here. Men don’t look too “s-xiness” for their power or confidence. Girls aren’t taught confidence is “s-xiness” in their homes. But this is okay, let’s ensure girls know their “confidence” is surface level deep and by that, their tops and their bottoms. Don’t confuse the two. There can be a “s-xy” girl down the street, that doesn’t mean she’s got confidence or power or value in herself. At least in teaching “confidence” there’s an inherent lesson that only provides further lessons of discovery, down the road, in yourself, the world and expanding your mind and holding your ground in the face of darkness. While “s-xiness” teaches nothing but having others value your body then express that value to invoke a reaction from yourself. One which young girls and women use in order to use young boys and men to get things via full on “pole hole” way or just getting free stuff with false signs of going further in many directions. What does that teach the young girl? That she’s valued for her looks. Sure, banking on it seems fine, but the majority of those women who bank on looks (you can actually look up a majority of them) find themselves miserable and pathetically sad because they want what other women have…to not be in this field and have someone who values their personality over their body. What a nice ideology to teach young girls. You shouldn’t be ashamed of “s-xindss” but it should not be the thing to teach that empowers an individual. Telling someone how well they did, encouraging them without the use of the word “s-xy” and tell them what they could do to improve goes a lot farther than telling these girls they’re “s-xy” They’d reap the benefits of the former a lot greater, in every aspect of their lives. It shouldn’t take a genius to know any of this.
Everything was rigged. They are giving boy group songs for 1st and 2nd grade eversince, that's not compatible for their voices, because I know they are planning on eliminating all the younger grades. If they let grade 1 and 2 to win, the debut team will have young members. It's quite sad because they all deserve to debut. And I hope that I can find their names soon and having their own group to debut ❤️
For anyone complaint about props, every team given freedom using props like power team having flashlight, hot sauce with rope or 34 rap team having baseball bat as Harley queen references. And if you watch the show it was all Sarang idea to throw money confetti and even put her diss lyrics to maximized her idea for complete stage as allrounder. Same goes when 34 rap team wrote their own lyrics to catch more point but clearly no one complaint eventhough its clear unfair for other team. About age issue, on final there is only Boeun and Seonyu who make it and will turn 14 next month same age as Woonyoung during her debut, also the eldest is Mihee so if Boeun and Mihee debut together the age gap is only 8 years which common even izone have 9 year age gap and I never seen people talk shit about it.
I have nothing against Sarang but I think the vote should have been more realistic and since both did well, the match should have been more closer just like the match between 1st grade and 4th grade where the margin is only 3 points between them. And also even if Sarang's idea was to put the money confetti, the definition of all rounder still falls into Mihee cause all talented were showcase as of to sarang she showcased all of it except vocals and according to some people she was shouting at the end which is as to why she did not showcased enough vocals. Both of them did great its just lie into the show which is really suspicious, furthermore I'm really sad that not many fourth grade won't be able to debut.
@@shazzprince944 yeah and in hye too, but we should hope for them the best since for me, most of the 4th grades has one of the average to the one of the best trainees.
oh no, the production team very much did anticipate it, because they caused it. its obvious and clearly visible lmao. sarang is an amazing performer that much is clear from her what type of x performance, but she never deserved that win. also did anyone even remember she was in this competition these last few weeks?? i didnt. i was rooting for her during hesitation before school, but after that she faded into the background, i dont remember anything from her apart from jessi's song.
i dont like 1rst grade having 2 spots or even having 1 bc they are 08-09 liners!! they are waaaay too young, also having the positions depending on votes from weeks ago is so "WHAT?"
but it’s all rounder position, people only see the prop, but tbh mihee did all dance, vocal and rap. She’s really talented but sa rang did not show her vocal talent and mihee’s dance break was really great than sa rang because she use a lot of techniques. But sa rang did great too
Sarang and Mihee are both great! both are deserving to win, it's a neck to neck battle. I understand others why they want Mihee to win but I also understand why Sarang won this battle because her performance were more memorable and has more impact than Mihee.
Mihee did better and just because sarang had props doesn't mean she had the skills that mihee had . Mihee only had her outfit and skills that would've gotten her to win but the props beat her and I'm disappointed in neitizens 😐
I'm guessing what happened is that the producers had pre-planned the voting to end in a tie because there was no way the freshmen + sophomore alliance could win which would result in sophomores getting 0 places on the debut team. The whole system of conditioning how many trainees from each grade can debut was probably installed to ensure the younger years could debut even if the audiences didn't want them to.
I think they might have rigged the result of that battle but to be completely honest I'm kinda glad it turned out to be a tie, otherwise if 3&4 graders won there wouldn't be any spot for 2nd grade
wherever we see, 3&4 is the winner of ep 8. Look how strong the rap performance, and they deserve to win. But what the f for all around???? The production team already bias to 2rd grade (sarang) give her a solo song, with rap and dance , add fake money, confetti , and back vocal. And mihee?? Give her a group song, with strong vocal, rap, dance. Her stage look like battle for ace, she does it alone, without any back vocal. From the start they want 2rd grade to win.
I don't why people was BLIND for MIHEE'S talent until now i can't move on that she lose,AGHH Did you'll see her performance?Her performance is the definition of all rounder!
It was a tie?
@@lovesserafim9227 34 grade for all rounder got 400 and 12 grade got 600. So Mihee lost on her round by 200. The final score adding the other rounds turned out to be tied as previously 34 grade was ahead by 200
@@irislemon I know what the scores were hun but thank you I was talking about the ending number and she only lost due to it possibly being rigged that’s why everyone was shocked
She is my favourite from the very start
She grabbed me with that blackmamba performance 🤧
Mihee is the real ace of the all rounder battle. Even without the fancy props, she shined on her own. Sarang maximizing her ideas in her stage doesn’t mean she’s better. If you listen to her performance, she was breathy and her voice cracked. Her dance is not better than Mihee, the same with her rap. Her winning seems like a joke just to give a spot for the second graders in the debut line. It’s unfair for Mihee but it’s just the way it is in a survival show. Popularity is more important than talent.
💯 agree
Okay but Sarang def dominated mihee with rap... like how can yall say mihee rap was better when it was underwhelming asf
sigh i could only agree that there is this way of thinking from the majority of those people. but they sure bet im now team mihee bc of that performance! thats the only thing they cant deny really, it’s her skills that shone through that stage
Stage presence is must in every performer. So Money Won
Nah sarang totally deserved the win
For me Mihee is the winner for the ACE all rounder coz she sings, rap and dance a song sung by 4 amazing ladies. So yeah shes the true winner and I cant stop watching her performance. Soyeon as her mentor makes her more look like Soojin of G-idle. 👍🥰🎉❤
For me too
I agree. She even did a high note but yeah, since the audience has to vote they focused more on performance than vocals. Lol
@@sashimiakali you mean visual
@@khanhphaminh1175 mihee definitely does not lose on visuals... all the 3rd and 4th graders consider her one of the best visuals
@@universeinneverland2314 I did not mean that. I mean, those voters only elected to anyone they like, and don't really care about the performances
I didn't believe it was a tie tho. Mihee did better. Sarang ain't bad, but the score didn't give justice to Mihee's performance. Money is Lisa's song and Next Level is by Aespa, a 4-MEMBERED GROUP. Mihee perfectly showed an all-rounder stage performance, all points and parts covered by just her. I still think they did that so they can give the 2nd graders a spot in debut group. Like bruh? Stick to your concept. It's too bad, but if it is elimination, then u should eliminate them. The result just eliminated some contestants who doesn't even deserve to be eliminated.
When the two all-rounder performance was done, I felt bad for the 2nd grade because judging by the performances, Mihee deserves a score higher than 500. I thought Mihee would take the win and the 2ndgrade won't get a spot. Whatever u say, this is rigged. wOw a pErfEcT 200 thAt cOvErS the gAp? Obviously, we can't change it but I hope Mihee knows that she won that round. I hope she reads this comment section and knows that they did her dirty and it was unfair.
+ She added original rap to Aespa song, so she Def is all rounded. And I love her rap, you don't have to hit it hard to be a good at it. She did it so well.
agreed!! I'm so mad watching the episode, it seems weird with the result although they tried to justify the votes aren't rigid 😒
But sarang didn’t choose to sing a song that was by only one person if she did next level she would’ve still crushed it! I’m my opinion she did better than mihee idk what it was but after a bit mihees performance got boring for me idk why
@@Marwa-tp6rb I ain't blaming Sarang for the song choice. The song distribution is obviously unfair even in other performances. I respect ur opinion and that u prefer Sarang's performance, given that we have our own judgements and preferences. But the category asks for an All-Rounder performance, and in my opinion, Mihee showed that one. She had a dance break to show dance, sang with beautiful and stable voice, made an original rap, on point facial expression, good impact even without fancy props, she just shined. No doubt that they are both good, but if I have to weigh their perf I'll go with Mihee. Sarang's a little out of breath in some parts and I didn't like the low energy on the first part, and I feel like without the money props it would be boring and not impactful, but that's just my opinion and observation alone, no biggie.
The momen they announced that it was tie, i knew this show is obviously RIGGED.
Yah like how the hell its to obvious
And the difference between minhee and sarang score is just toooooooo much lmao
HONESTLY! I personally think that they didn't want to do it fairly because there was a pretty high chance of all the Sophmores being eliminated
@@nicolekellyong7878 Yup. And i think, the judges (esp Soyeon) all aware with that, the rigged, but they just going along with that. Since it will be so much, if they against that.
try google this show. the producer is related to produce series😁lol
@@ayiisantoso1082 but atleast the mentors actually help the constestants and have an eye for talent unlike the judges from gp999
The sad thing is that the songs where not fair. Money has an average dance level, a high rap level and a low vocal level, meanwhile next level has a high rap level, average dance level and high vocal level, if it was an al rounder battle why was one song harder than the other? Also why giving one of the girls a song for a SOLOIST and the other a song for a group… of course a song made for a group will be harder because its not made for one person to perform alone… its regretful
Exactly, they both should’ve performed the same song. It makes no sense how one trainee is singing a group song while the other is singing a solo song.
That is why it is called all rounder bcoz she can do all. No offense but the one who sang the Aespa's song is much better. Both of them are talented but I think people are just focusing on performance rather than vocals.
@@sashimiakali I agree I preferred mihee (I think that’s her name?) Her performance was well balanced and she didn’t need any props. I feel like go sara only won because the props made her performance more grand.
Mihee didn't even do the vocally challenging parts so it was fair. Her dancing overall was much weaker than Sarang's. I really enjoyed both performances and both girls are favorites of mine but it was clear as day that Sarang should win
@@celestielsigh actually the parts she did are challenging and specially more challenging than any vocal part In money and since money had props and things in stage it was not fair
People fail to realize that Mihee performed a song that is done by a group. Money is a song performed by one person. The song choices had to be fair. Also, why would the props matter for an all rounder. Having props is not talent. Sure it does help make the look of the performance look nicer but it doesn't really change the quality of the dancing or the singing of a contestant. As judges, they should have focused on the performance itself and not be swayed by props because anyone with half a talent can use props too but that doesn't mean that they're better than those that didn't
But are you serious? Do you know that the people who vote are the audience? That's why it's a problem, if it were judges, they would have definitely voted for Mihee, but it was the audience. The props did make a difference for the impact it gave to the audience.
@@dbfjjdbdb.2091 no i know that! When i meant judges I meant the people who voted. My bad. This was not the first time they made the wrong call on these votes.
True I agree
mbc manipulate the vote.
@@ariathefirst6495 Oh I see, don't worry, the audience can be called judges too, it only needed clarification! Don't worry about it, I agree and that's the problem with this show.
soyeon is such a good mentor
Mihees performance was mind-blowing her aura her voice her charisma is just different
She's so gorgeous too
Honestly wish she becomes a solo artist tho
Everyone agrees that Mihee is the real winner
not me lol
@@hanapretty2753 mihee is the real winner, open your eyes
Nope
Nah... I like Sarang's performance more
@@Cheeseburger_127 same
I hate the idea that two 11 years old girls will debut, it's kinda gross they are way too young. I wish it was 3 from the 4th grade and 2 from the third and second grade
Right I hate the idea that literal babies are debuting they aren’t even teens yet
They have 13 yrs old soon 14 but me too I dont like the 1st grade
They are not 11 years old 🥱
I just want Boeun and Seonyu to debut
@@mgs1813 they have, the problem is that most of them still have to turn 13, and if they won’t look at the age voting, there’s a great chance they’ll let a 11/12 years old debut.
And then there were people mad over Leeseo AHAHAHAHAHA
I am not saying Sarang didn't deserve her win, because she did amazingly, but I DO NOT BUY that it was genuinely a tie. Had the juniors/seniors won (which they were in the lead to) sophomores would have been entirely eliminated by default because they would not have a spot in the debut team. Its such bullshit. No way in hell that actually happened and now 3 girls from the older team were unfairly eliminated and a spot was taken away from each class. Mihee obviously won and they couldn't have that because it would have deleted an entire class (not to mention it means Yuri wouldn't have a purpose on the show anymore)
I’ll say it sarang didn’t deserve her win at all
@@marthachang47130 exactly! It showed dance and rap only while vocal wasnt really shown :(
@@marthachang47130 lisa song has dance rap and vocals-- it is all rounder.
also i agree when ep 7 came out i had a theory that grade two would be eliminated but then all of a sudden it was a tie, that just didn't make sense.
also its unfair to the girls who won their performances to go home, they should've been safe since they literally WON
“this show is rigged” y’all are now just realizing it ?? it’s obvious mbc is pushing for the debut lineup to mainly have 1st and 2nd graders. notice how majority of the evil edits, bad song choices, zero props, etc all came from the 3rd and 4th grade groups … how some of the 1st and 2nd graders got pity edits on their struggles to debut acting like this isn’t half of the 4th graders and some 3rd graders last chances to debut themselves. i don’t like how two 08 liners are going to debut with an 01 liner like that’s so awkward it’s like you’re babysitting someone’s child … majority of the watchers also want the lineup to be 11 spots (i also want the lineup to be 11) like this is just giving me chuang 2020 flashbacks (besides the whole companies buying votes stuff)
I too want 3rd and 4th graders to have more spots. But the age difference is not that much of a big deal for groups as we've seen multiple times. Off the top of my head, the age difference between the oldest and youngest in X1, 2NE1 and Iz*one was 9 years. 10 years in Wanna One I think. And these groups did just fine when they were promoting as far as we know. That said, I still feel as if the older contestants should be considered more as their time to debut is limited. But in all, the most talented ones should get to debut.
@@Zeighla i don't think it is a matter of the age gap but the matter of the age itself. I mean a 17 yo would not necessarily need attention and care but a 12yo would definitely have. I also don't like the idea of getting anyone that young to debut in the showbiz but hey, who am i to speak.
Honestly, I'm kind of partial to two small groups, a 4-member for the two younger years and theb7-member lineup for the older ones. Hell, we could have just had an 8-member lineup with two members from each grade and that would have been nice too.
The 1st Graders are talented, there was no question about that. It was just awkward seeing them with the 4th grader once they debut.
About Mihee, I felt bad about her. Her performance was more powerful than Sarang. Her voice, rap and even dance were shown. Sorry to Sarang's fans.
Sarang did a great job, but at the dance break, my eyes were focused on the dancers at the back than her moves.
only 1st grader who should win is boeun.. shes pretty mature and talented.. the rest seem like little kids
@@바보Queen true because boeun blended so well in the performance together with the 4th grade
i believe seonyou should debut from first grade
@@Minimoni06137 nah she sucks, and there are way better dancers in 3rd and 4th
@@바보Queen I’m saying it cause there are two 1st grade spots now your just hating she doesn’t suck and I’m not talking about the other 3rd and 4th graders only two of them from each grade go in so
The energy in the studio was obviously off when they announced the 2000 v 2000 result, nobody believed it and it's obvious Mihee was supposed to be the winner.
Yumin and Suhye were both unfairly sent home because of this rigged result and I am pissed off.
Both of them played so much
It's totally rigged, they really want spot debut for 2nd grade sooooooooo bad 🤣👍
Ikr , 3rd and 4th grade should've won and that would give them two sopts each , and korean people are too desperate to debut the young ones so they rigged th system.
I can understand why though. If there is no debut spot for 2nd grade, all people in that grade won't do anything on the next episode. Their dream is crushed because they have no debut spot
I reaaally want 3rd and 4rd grades to win a lot of spot, but now I saw the show, I feel bad if no one debut in each of the grades
@@Kat-y_L honestly they're desperate to put children to work at such a young age, sick
@@finnrogue9435 since the start we need to cut 1st grade, no hate, but they still too young..., 2nd grade can accepted, but 1st one... still too young, and they got 2 spots... haishshhshshs
I feel like if they were gonna rig something they should’ve rigged the 1st grade out. Because those girls are soooo young. Like imagine a 11 year old being in a group with a 20 year old…
mihee's performance was much better. also boss bitch was miles better than mic drop yet the margin was smaller than decalcomanie vs I even though I and mic drop both had mistakes. idc, 3rd and 4th grade shouldve won by like 600 points more overall
@hello i think even if jiwoo didnt make a mistake decalcomanie would still win because decalcomanie is kinda more hype and people would prefer that over a ballad. the song choices did the 3rd and 4th grades dirty.
I really really agree with u
@hello chaewon did sing a high note, but actually jimin sang even higher HAHA she sang a G5 (but it was quite short so), chaewon sang until E5 and belted, nonetheless i felt that it was an unfair match
@@dumblechel21When I first saw this I was like of course the 1st and 2nd graders would win because the song is way more energetic
not to mention, sarang had backup vocals which can be heard very clearly. mihee neither had it nor did she needed it. lee mihee doesnt need fancy props to hype up the crowd, she doesnt need to depend on a soloist and global song to make it worth it, she doesnt need backup dancers during a dance break that is supposed to showcase HER skills, because frankly speaking i was watching her dancers more than her. she also doesnt need mbc to rig shows so that grade 2 can have a spot. lee mihee outshone on her own, she did so well, perfect everywhere be it stage presense, vocal, visuals, rap, dance, expressions, stability, charisma. she won fair and square. even sarang supporters have been commenting that mihee deserved that win more than their fav, so mihee haters cant even argue with that kinda logic. if grade 2 had won a spot earlier, mihee would've won fairly here. SHE IS THE ACE.
if you realize, MBC didn't film the crowd when mihee is a presentation because they knew that she being better, was all planned
for rap performance, 3rd and 4th grade should've won with a HUGE margin too. They even made their own lyrics unlike 1st and 2nd grade. The mentors are biased by asking 3rd and 4th grade to write their lyrics but not with 1st and 2nd group. Also mihee was done dirty, they gave her no property at all meanwhile sarang got all of those properties.
Yeah there wasn't a huge difference in the votes, we're talking 200 difference even though the 1st and 2nd grade performance was pretty bad and messy in my opinion, the on-site voters pretty much like voting for the younger ones just because they're "cuter"
I think the mentors pity the grade 1,2. They actually care about the others, but just want to push the younger ones through.
soyeon is the mentor for 4th group so i think it makes sense if she focuses on the alliance of 3rd and 4th group more
Soyeon told them to write their own lyrics because itd make them stand out more if aiki or yuri didn’t tell the youngers to write their own lyrics that’s on them
To be honest, I'm NOT sure if Mic Drop stage has changed the lyrics, all I know is that what you said ' 3rd and 4th grade should've won with a HUGE margin' is definately right, 1st and 2nd grade's stage was a bit dull and I find it too like childrenish, you know what I mean? If not it's ok. But the gap of the rap unions are so different, I really did go though the vibe with 3rd and 4th graders.
Mbc should have the same type of song, sarang got a solo singer who is a dancer meanwhile mihee got a group singer and alot of high notes, that's not fair
Aespa ning ning and winter have really powerful vocal but minhee did it all alone! We definitely can see that minhee is really good all rounder and she's better than sarang. But why minhee didn't win. Money and next level are definitely different songs! Next level is really difficult song but minhee sang without mistakes. I want to ask the audiences "Don't you guys have eyes!?"
All happened becoz they saw it as a black pink song or may becoz it was for Lisa so they don't judge most of the audience were blinks l think
and ears
Mihee didn't do the power vocal parts of the song so...
Agree and it doesn’t matter that she didn’t do the “power vocal parts” because sarang didn’t sing at all lol
jaehyun and suhye were my favorite 3rd grade girls :(( im so sad they got eliminated , they had great vocals
3rd grade got so less vocals left, like the most stand out 1 left is Jiwoo
The rest sings well but compared to the eliminated 1s, they were not as good
OMG i have been saying this all the time , Suhye was such a good vocalist and she got eliminated . How can they become popular they havent done anything to advertise them . The pretty ones get most votes . So they are outright calling them not pretty . Its so upsetting i really liked suhyes vocals
Suhye was the reason i started watching this show 😭
She is soo amazinggg , I hope she debuts soon , achieve her dreams , I wish the best for her
@@liamjt6569 i know right, for 3rd graders i like hyunhee's voice the best but theyre not a vocal heavy class
Remember that Mi Hee debuted as Main vocalist of Botopass, I also noticed that she's the center of her group and alsohere in My Teenage girl. She was the song starter, her charming charismatic visual is eye-catching. She can dance (4th graders praised her together with Hyeju), she can sing (as I said she was the main vocalist of Botopass, she is the song starter or the first center of the performance (Same Same DIfferent, Balck Mamba, Hello Ladies, and now she was stable on her next level and did the best on the pre-performance that's why she was chosen as the ace) she can rap, there is something on her voice that I love to hear it is attractive and charismatic. Mi Hee debut!
honestly, I don’t exactly get why they left *all* the votings to the audience. Why weren’t the mentors allowed to take a vote too? The mentors would’ve voted fair & square according to the capabilities of everyone, judging if they’ve really improved or not.
I think there should more judges to judge with them and then their votes are 50/50
The judges only received votes for the entrance exams. For the live performances their only role is to manage the stage and guide the girls through giving their best performance.
@@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia yeah I understand that part. But especially for this incident when the votes were tied - I just feel like maybe the mentors should’ve been given the chance to put in their votes as well :/
@@redpanda7277 yeah like the other mentors that were at the interim checks
@@hiyq omg right they should definitely vote if it happened cuz 4 is way too little and could affect their votes too much (also I wish elimination/debut votes should exclude audience votes from the performances, why do they have to have so much control 😒 there's already global votes from fans... There enough votes from non professionals)
Every time news comes out from this show its barely anything good. The whole thing is a literal mess, they’ve had so many issues it’s ridiculous
Thats kpop survival shows for u 😂
@@nelliebellie2222 nah produce and girls planet was far more better than this
the moment is saw the props i said 'game over' because it made the stage fancier also the song is more powerful than mihee's one.
Edit: I was NOT hating on any trainee out here, mihee is my favorite also, stop fucking twisting my words and gtfo.
@@shion7471 lmao Sarang better
@@shion7471 never be rude or insult anyone that isn't hateful over a simple celebrity. It's dumb af and totally not worth it.
@the piece I know I'm not dumb she's not that popular
Mihee did way better without any fancy prop she's the main slayer of the show really!
@@hiniraeth6893 Sarang better???tf thats not true, if she was better then they wouldnt give her all the backup dancers, elegant scenario and all that shit that mihee didnt had
Wait Yumin got eliminated :(( I loved her vibe and she was so talented
She was unfairly eliminated because of how bullshit this show is, it was clear mihee won but they for sure rigged her votes so that grade 2 can get a spot. This is so unfair for mihee, she didn't deserve the manipulation and so as the other two that was eliminated unfairly.
She is so pretty
She served visuals, rap, vocals, flexibility and dance 😩
I still remember her freaking SPLIT on the same same different video 😭❣️❣️
I agree with Soyeon's opinion. have a rematch. And if you can with the same music that way you can see the difference hohohoho
Please vote for Lee mihee we need her to the final line up
Taerim is so talented she needs to debut like seriously
sadly she’s rumored to be eliminated the episode before the finale due to her low rank
If she will not debut after this show, she will get other chances, because she is very very good. Her model Soyeon passed tru 2 survival show and ended debuted as solo and leader of G Idle.
Ikr taerim and yoonjung is main dancer material 😭. If one of them didn't debut, idk what to say with this show anymore 😶
Most well rounded trainee tbh
it's obvious that the Junior and Senior won this battle . 😑 except for Vocal performance, that mamamoo cover is so good. 💕
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
The vocal for 1st and 2nd grade was absolutely terrific, there aren't any mistakes, but on the other hand, a girl from 3rd grade made a mistake
I just want Hyunhee, Yunjoong , Jieun and Mihee , debut
Same!! Plus Chaewon! I love these 5 💘
Yooyeon too
Hyungseo too
Chaewon too
Hence, the Glass trio!
Imagine how powerful the group when the 3 of them debuted on it! 🥰
MBC needs to add more members for the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th Grade spots, two 1st grader is enough for the final line-up since they're too young. Seonyu and Boeun seem pretty lock-ins for those two spots. Dear MBC, we don't mind having a 12 member group
This is not produce 101 season 1 or sixteen. These kinds shows have been going on from a long time and the lack of learning from the past really shows. Going off voted from 2 weeks ago is not fair at all and I hope the production team fixes it.
Seiously! They never even showed off Yumin until this past episode. I guarantee she would have shot to the top after her rapping performance, but now she's gone.
I prefer Mihee over Sarang though I liked her a lot. Without those props, you'll see who shined brighter.
i feel like they made sarang win just to tie the votes
its feels rigged tbh. the chances of having tied total votes is unlikely especially if there were 4 rounds. what were the odds that the votes from the audience throughout the 4 rounds would be tied 🙃
Yeah they Rigged the show
i really thought that mihee ws popular among knetz cause she really stood out to me since same same different but apparently she's not that popular. she's the real ace honestly. she rapped giselle and karina's rap, sang winter's lines, and did ningning's high note perfectly also the dance break was so good. its sad to see a really great all rounder trainee being treated like this :(
Keep in mind that this is a popularity and not necessarily a talent contest. This is going to end in heart break for someone because limited spots and the front runners have been decided by popular vote
1st grade - Sun Yoo and Bo Eun look like locks for 2 spots because they are all around most mature looking for their age(eek!). I liked Jung Siwoo because she had attitude... But was eliminated.
2nd grade - 1 spot to be fought over by for Minami, Riwon or Ji Min. You think the producers want Minami but Riwon is popular with the voters(Korean). I think Ji min would best match the older 3rd and 4th graders plus she can sing.
3rd grade - yoon jung and Hyun Hee seem to be the front runner. Yun Seo and Ji Eun could be in the conversation but I don't see them overcoming the popularity of the top 2.
4th grade - Chae yeon and Yoo Yun are the favorites for 2 spots which is too bad for Mihee, Hye Ju, Hari, In Hye, Hyun Seo.... Yerim highly skilled but no chance of breaking in because she can't overcome the popularity of the visual members.
I agree, it seems like the line up is pretty much expected
I didn't want to have anything invested in any of the trainees, I mean it doesn't matter who debuts really because their essentially interchangeable. But it's a little disappointing to know that for the 4th grade and some 3rd grade contestants, this could be the last chance.
What I mean is that some of them need to be in a group because they can't be soloists. But the flip side is that some are so good, they may not mesh in a group because they could outshine the other members.
In the end, it's whoever the producers want to create a cohesive group and as we see, they are not above doing voting or performance manipulation to steer their agenda.
Pretty sure riwon would debut from grade 2
Yep my exact thought. Couldnt agree more
I really wanted yerim to be in the lineup 🙁
YAS!! LOUDER!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!! MIHEE DESERVED TO WIN THAT BATTLE!!!
I don't know about others but Mihee caught my attention, her voice is good, her dance is elegant and her stage presence is just sooo good!!!
Soyeon was right, rap cover just helps to improve your flow, you can't bring the others whole verse on stage. Only showing your own flow by writing your own lyrics is called rap
i loved mihee's performance more. she sang and danced well, and even had her own rap verse. sarang's was kinda so-so.
There are two sports for the seniors and I really hope Chaewon, Hyungseo or minhee wil debut. (Chaewon is my absolute fav I love her voice sooooo much)
Mostly are highly hoping that YooChaeSeo debuts together, plus HyungSeo has showing up as a good leader, and we need that
This show is fucking RIGGED ...that too in front of our faces....we clearly know who Won
honestly, mihee had more charms while sarang had more star quality. however, both did super well and i wish both aces got the win. i hope the best to both contestants and hope they debut!! fighting sarang and mihee!!
Mihee performed in another level. In the Money stage performance, Sarang sounded a bit exhausted and was like eating some words up (for me). Mihee aced her vocals (she was singing most parts live + she hitting those high notes uGh 😩✨) and rap, as well as the dancing (girl, she was on point). The fact that next level is a group song, yet Mihee did exceptionally well - she was the winner for me. robbed hmmp-
still props for Sarang in winning the all-rounder stage.✨💕
4 Points I think to consider in MBC taking this " it's a tie" route:
1 - the 2nd grade haven't won any matches yet and if they lost it would look like "Yuri was a bad mentor"(And would look like people that are not "legacy" and are her juniors are better then her...) and no 2graders would get a spot.
2 - from the start the youngers got easier or more captivating songs to perform.
3 - The Ace competition should have been a battle between two soloist songs. It was to easy do sarang even copy Lisa's outfit, hair And dance routine when mihee had to pretty much modify a song made for 4 people that is well know for it's angles and cameras moves while performing and vocals.
4 - They first graders are too young too match with rest of the other grades, with a few exceptions that can perform diverse concepts. The others look like little kids in a school show. I think MBC will do a round of "something" to try switch a spot on debut team between grandes.
Extra: I just can't with all the crying with them... Everytime.
THANK YOU for talking about this.
Hyunhee and yunseo should debut together they're so talented and an all rounders.
they should change the final line-up from 7 to 12 or 11 there are so many talented trainees its so hard to choose among them.
I am really hoping that some companies contact these kids and sign them on to debut. Or MBC debuts a second group similar to the "runner up" groups that came out of Produce and Produce 2.
Why are 11 year olds debuting... I just want yoonjung and hyunhee to debut together..
11 years girls are eliminated
That wont be happening anymore cause my dream team of Hyunhee+Jieun+Yoonjung is broken.....dont know whos gonna make it between Yoonjung and Jieun or Yunseo
@@angelus_0015 Seungju and Minchae are still not eliminated yet💀
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Sorry it was a spoiler
11-14 year olds. Still young, but some are not quite as young.
Im pretty confused when it comes to the debut spots. maybe its an issue with translation, but I understood, that the top 2 of the currrent performance will be given the 2 spots of their grade. But not all other girls would be eliminated? That for me makes only sense if theres still another chance to get into the debut group.
I also find the elimination system a bit weird. I only have watched youth with you 2, so I cant compare to other korean shows, but I found the way ywy2 handled eliminations a bit more clear (and I feel like I overall got to see more of training etc.) Live show, winning group gets additional points that all get added to online voting and only after the show has aired voting ends, so the viewer could consider the live shows for their voting as well (I believe, I could be misremembering though). And then we get the final results with the lowest rankings eliminated. Feels less random than having results of the live show determine, which group has to eliminate someone.
However this kind of concept have been used by Mnet from the start since produce 101 so they can't do the same.. since they want to make it looks different
My guess is there is a chance a different trainee will be swapped into the debut line up based on online voting and the lineup they announce in episode 9 will be just based on the current performance
I'm also confused as this contest round would only last for 2 episodes (9+10) so what would they do with 2 episodes left? I mean the girl already battle each other in the same class to choose the spot in the debut lineup so another battle would not make any sense.
the song choices wernt even fair cuz its an all rounder battle... why is one person doing a song that mainly focuses on rap AND is a solo song...
Hope they add 2 more slots
Same one for the second grade and another one for third/fourth grade
2 is not enough
@@jisooturtlerabbitkim3734 ikr but atleast add 2 cause ig they won't add more than that :
So much potential on 3rd and 4th grade, I can't imagine just 2 from each also Mihee was so so good singing a group song also showcasing her rap and dance, really befitting for all rounder performance.
im more agree to adding few more slot for the final debut lineup members than 7 spots... rather that they have unfair voting result that might upsetting and make people angry... who's votes for these girls...
2. but thats not gonna never ever happen though 😒🙄 adding few debut lineup spots...
Can we just agree that soyeon is a literal god
Bro just reviewed the whole my teenage girl show, I spent my whole time watching just to realize that they're just going to retell episodes 9 and over.
They should've just assigned 2 spots for 2-4th grade and 1 spot for the 1st graders so this rigging wouldn't have happened
Of course I agree with the netizens AND everyone should as well...
I found it unfair that mihee had no props/stage effects like sarang did. love them both
i still didnt get whyyy jung si woo being eliminated, shes very good thoo, her dance , her ability to rap, her voice & her face expression is really strong compared to other candidate in her grade : ((((((((
Mihee was my favourite since blackmamba
That starting she did was just mind-blowing blackmamba with that stare omg😶
It’s just weird they’re too young wtf
I still cant get over the fact mihee lost, if they wanna give props to the other grade then make sure you give it to the other grade also
The scores being a tie is really suspicious.
As someone who's never watched this show before, this is.. extremely unsettling. "2nd grader" and "sexiness" in the same sentence I might throw up
thought the exact same thing, what even is this and how are people ok with this?
To tell the truth it feels like the score tie was created by production team. Just image if grade 3 and 4 winned there will be no second grader in final lineup meaning whole grade could just go home. Which is not a good outcome for first season of idol survivor show. But to make Sarang win against Mihee by too many votes that will change the winner of whole competition would be too much and too obvious so they went with the tie and no final battle because once again it could easily end with 3+4 grade winning, leaving 2nd grade without a place in final lineup.
Yup,, i think it's not unfair when mihee take a group song and sarang take solo song.. and then with the prop and the result.. huftt....😤
This show PD decision is so messed up
you know. soyeon saying that jaehyun and yumin didnt deserve to be eliminated because dance and rap won AND Its so unfair
although there are still some errors, pronunciation of names has definitely improved by a margin. great job on this video
Here after watching episode realizing Mihee, Won Jimin, Youngchae, and Sunyoo become candidates for disqualification. I was to let go the forced giving-a-spot-for-second-graders but the longer it takes, it's getting more annoying.
I still feel so frustrated with the rules of this show… Why someone made a mistake at the vocal battle is still here and why the girl who win at the dance battle was eliminated??? And according to the personal ranking, Taerim’s ranking is not low! WTF…
That ice cream girl must have some strong background to support her heh
Which makes her still in the show with bad vocal…
When I saw Mihee and Sarang's vs for "all-rounder", Mihee managed to make me like Next level (although the song is not my favorite) she gave her all, singing, dancing and with a super stable voice, I was very surprised by that , but when I saw Sarang's performance I felt uncomfortable because although she danced amazing her rap was not the best since her voice wanted to break at times or she breathed very hard (which tells me that she was not using a good singing technique) and how this is "all-rounder" I lack her vocal ability, but her staging was much better with an explosive ending and I thought "she's going to win since for people in general the staging is more important or calls for more attention than the skills "So I was not surprised by the result, I feel that it was not very fair with Mihee and although they can say that Money is rap, the truth is that Sarang was able to play a little with the song to be able to show herself singing, dancing and rap.
this show is a total mess...
Props over talent. Sad. Mihee deserves better.
i feel like there should be more spots for 3rd and 4th grades!! So many talented girls
I can’t believe that people were so blind for Mihee’s performance, like she performed an song from a 4-MEMBERED GROUP, that is called a real all-rounder, Sarang was good too but the money blown as confetti doesn’t make any sense, like ok? Here we care about the talent, not the confetti or other things at all, well in conclusion, MIHEE WAS THE REAL ALL-ROUNDER
I also think that the 1st grade girls need more time before debut...however, as a whole they have the most talent. I wish that the 3rd and 4th grades took more spots as some 9f them have been trainees for a long time....but doesn't that also say that they might not have what it takes to be an idol.
Why do I feel like mbc pulled some string to make the 2nd grade have spot on debut team because they haven’t won any spot yet
This part is actually sketchy plus the songs assigned are kinda unfair. It is very obvious what songs can easily hype the audience. The staff should have at least chose songs with the same level/type/vibe. For example, the I and Decalcomanie performances, these two songs have different vibe. Next Level and Money too have different vibes. Same with the dance performances, one already has a choreography while the other one doesn't have (tho if we have to analyze, grade 3 & 4 are a bit in a disadvantage here bcos they have to create their own choreo idk correct me if im wrong).
The tie scores are kinda sketchy since the 2nd grade is at risk. There's a part of me which thinks that they only made this so even 1 from the second grade can debut. And I totally understand other's sentiments that 1st graders are waaaay too young to debut so it's kinda off for me that two spots were given to them. I just think that this isn't a right time to debut 11-13 year olds.
Idk it's just kinda unfair, especially to those who got eliminated but did so much better than those who did not get eliminated. But yeah this is the down side of survival shows. Popularity > Talent.
I smell something fishy here. the fact that so many people agree that mihee won, and that the final score was evenly 2000 for both is crazy. Do you think mnet rigged the votes again to ensure that 2nd graders also have a spot on the final lineup? Think about it, if mihee won (which i believe she did), then the final lineup would only have freshmen, juniors and seniors. Then what happens to the sophomores? All eliminated? I think this was mnet's way to keep the other grade in the competition
This is MBC’s show not Mnet’s.
Love how “s-xiness” is being taught as “confidence”
That’s not what being a women is about, why would you teach young girls that?
But y’all want to say it’s idols ruining the view of young girls, and it’s the companies promoting it.
This is the problem, here.
Men don’t look too “s-xiness” for their power or confidence.
Girls aren’t taught confidence is “s-xiness” in their homes.
But this is okay, let’s ensure girls know their “confidence” is surface level deep and by that, their tops and their bottoms.
Don’t confuse the two. There can be a “s-xy” girl down the street, that doesn’t mean she’s got confidence or power or value in herself.
At least in teaching “confidence” there’s an inherent lesson that only provides further lessons of discovery, down the road, in yourself, the world and expanding your mind and holding your ground in the face of darkness. While “s-xiness” teaches nothing but having others value your body then express that value to invoke a reaction from yourself. One which young girls and women use in order to use young boys and men to get things via full on “pole hole” way or just getting free stuff with false signs of going further in many directions.
What does that teach the young girl? That she’s valued for her looks.
Sure, banking on it seems fine, but the majority of those women who bank on looks (you can actually look up a majority of them) find themselves miserable and pathetically sad because they want what other women have…to not be in this field and have someone who values their personality over their body.
What a nice ideology to teach young girls.
You shouldn’t be ashamed of “s-xindss” but it should not be the thing to teach that empowers an individual.
Telling someone how well they did, encouraging them without the use of the word “s-xy” and tell them what they could do to improve goes a lot farther than telling these girls they’re “s-xy” They’d reap the benefits of the former a lot greater, in every aspect of their lives.
It shouldn’t take a genius to know any of this.
Everything was rigged. They are giving boy group songs for 1st and 2nd grade eversince, that's not compatible for their voices, because I know they are planning on eliminating all the younger grades. If they let grade 1 and 2 to win, the debut team will have young members. It's quite sad because they all deserve to debut. And I hope that I can find their names soon and having their own group to debut ❤️
For anyone complaint about props, every team given freedom using props like power team having flashlight, hot sauce with rope or 34 rap team having baseball bat as Harley queen references. And if you watch the show it was all Sarang idea to throw money confetti and even put her diss lyrics to maximized her idea for complete stage as allrounder. Same goes when 34 rap team wrote their own lyrics to catch more point but clearly no one complaint eventhough its clear unfair for other team.
About age issue, on final there is only Boeun and Seonyu who make it and will turn 14 next month same age as Woonyoung during her debut, also the eldest is Mihee so if Boeun and Mihee debut together the age gap is only 8 years which common even izone have 9 year age gap and I never seen people talk shit about it.
I have nothing against Sarang but I think the vote should have been more realistic and since both did well, the match should have been more closer just like the match between 1st grade and 4th grade where the margin is only 3 points between them.
And also even if Sarang's idea was to put the money confetti, the definition of all rounder still falls into Mihee cause all talented were showcase as of to sarang she showcased all of it except vocals and according to some people she was shouting at the end which is as to why she did not showcased enough vocals.
Both of them did great its just lie into the show which is really suspicious, furthermore I'm really sad that not many fourth grade won't be able to debut.
@@wingedloong4044 I agree, I just don't like how people discredit Sarang so much while they could be voting for Mihee
Most prolly Mihee won't make it and it sucks. It's 99% sure that Yooyeon and Chaewon are gonna debut from grade 4.
@@shazzprince944 yeah and in hye too, but we should hope for them the best since for me, most of the 4th grades has one of the average to the one of the best trainees.
Mihee make it to top 14, as long as people keep supporting her there always a chances for her to debut
oh no, the production team very much did anticipate it, because they caused it. its obvious and clearly visible lmao. sarang is an amazing performer that much is clear from her what type of x performance, but she never deserved that win. also did anyone even remember she was in this competition these last few weeks?? i didnt. i was rooting for her during hesitation before school, but after that she faded into the background, i dont remember anything from her apart from jessi's song.
i dont like 1rst grade having 2 spots or even having 1 bc they are 08-09 liners!! they are waaaay too young, also having the positions depending on votes from weeks ago is so "WHAT?"
I swear this survival show has more controversy than gp999
but it’s all rounder position, people only see the prop, but tbh mihee did all dance, vocal and rap. She’s really talented but sa rang did not show her vocal talent and mihee’s dance break was really great than sa rang because she use a lot of techniques. But sa rang did great too
LOONA SONG ON SURVIVAL SHOW?? oh god i had to watch it😭😭😭
Sarang and Mihee are both great! both are deserving to win, it's a neck to neck battle. I understand others why they want Mihee to win but I also understand why Sarang won this battle because her performance were more memorable and has more impact than Mihee.
I just want mihee to debut. She's my fave member. Mihee is so stable.
Mihee did better and just because sarang had props doesn't mean she had the skills that mihee had . Mihee only had her outfit and skills that would've gotten her to win but the props beat her and I'm disappointed in neitizens 😐
I'm guessing what happened is that the producers had pre-planned the voting to end in a tie because there was no way the freshmen + sophomore alliance could win which would result in sophomores getting 0 places on the debut team. The whole system of conditioning how many trainees from each grade can debut was probably installed to ensure the younger years could debut even if the audiences didn't want them to.
I think they might have rigged the result of that battle but to be completely honest I'm kinda glad it turned out to be a tie, otherwise if 3&4 graders won there wouldn't be any spot for 2nd grade
It's hard to believe that the result wasn't r-word.
wherever we see, 3&4 is the winner of ep 8.
Look how strong the rap performance, and they deserve to win.
But what the f for all around???? The production team already bias to 2rd grade (sarang) give her a solo song, with rap and dance , add fake money, confetti , and back vocal. And mihee?? Give her a group song, with strong vocal, rap, dance. Her stage look like battle for ace, she does it alone, without any back vocal.
From the start they want 2rd grade to win.
I also think that mihee perform better than sarang, even without the stage props mihee nailed the song
Mihee is also the winner for me. Doing all 4 members of aespa that's insane, especially vocals of AESPA and take note its freakin LIVE.