Omen one ways was what made his smokes unique. Astra can fake smoke, Brim has longer and cloudy smokes, Clove can smoke after dying and Harbor has a bulletproof smoke. Nerf was unnecessary.
Right? His shadow view is pretty much pointless now. Why not just give him a UI of the map to make smoking faster. But that would be the worst possible change they could make :/
This Omen nerf was unnecessary. It was a very unique "ability" of his and now they took it away. Same as his blind travel speed. In the past you could throw the blind at different speed, depening if you're moving forwards, backwards or standing still. They took it away for no reason
@OwenKelch no? i used to do it just like 5 days ago or so lol im talking about the blind being slow when you move backwards and faster if u click W. or is it just a placebo effect on me idk
Brim: Can put 3 smokes at the same time thar last half the round Clove: Can put smokes while dead Viper: Smoke and wall damages you Astra: plays fuckin simcity Harbour: smoke that blocks bullets The only thing that made omens smoke different from the other agents (like brim, clove and astra) was the possibility of doing one ways. Now it is just a regular smoke that does not have any major differential
I main Omen and I do feel that this nerf is unjustified. Omen as an agent doesn't have any offensive ability, apart from his blind and like a few other agents like jett, raze, you need to have skill to play this agent. The matery ceiling for Omen in particular is high because it takes time to learn him and its not really a beginer friendly agent. Taking away his one-ways won't really impact his pick rate for those that main him, but it definitely makes the game less fun.
With omen you traded "not being able to smoke as fast as clove and brim" for "being able to throw one ways" which made smoking slower but more impactful Now you are forced to throw same smokes as everyone else AND you are way slower than everyone else
I think we were getting too much with Omen smoke controls. You can still do midair smokes, do smokes as you want for places with different elevations, you get high precision with Omen smokes, so you can make same, but better 1ways than Brim/Clove/Astra can
@@FaryhSanhow is it same but better. That differential is cancelled out by practice. Midair smokes especially how slow they come out are useless because they fall down. The elevation thing is not even that impactful
@@mijkphlt No I mean you can place smokes lower than Brim and Clove and they will stick, so some 1ways are better. For example, on Ascent A main, with Omen you can place regular 1way lower so that attackers can't see you, while other controllers have worse 1way there. Midair smokes are used to make temporary 1ways in different places, you can place it higher than ground, wait for triangle to disappear behind the cover and peek once it is gone and you will see enemy legs. I can't understand why some people want to give him tablet and remove those advantages. If smoke placement is slow, it is indicator to work on pacing and not reduce agent versatility
@@FaryhSan fair enough, but honestly I’m actually worried for omen, since these are such niche advantages compared to what others have. He only needed a nerf to the refresh time, cost of tp and something to give paranoia more counterplay. They did not need to remove actual mechanics. This is where I believe riot is a bit too idealistic. They think they can make valorant as strategic as csgo s tactical nature or something of the same vein but keep abilities and gunplay at the same time. But that’s not how it really is in practice. The whole concept of using abilities attract people to the game because of the hero shooter like vibes . If they wanted a tactical game they watch something different. It makes the game less enjoyable, even if it becomes more balanced an tactical. Especially with all the rng spray patterns. I get the need to balance but they are starting to tip over the line of removing “fun” from the game.
The reasoning for his nerf is the reasons riot always used in league which is "this character is strong in pro plays" while neglecting the fact 99% of the playerbase aren't pro players
That's the reasoning for any competitive game in existence, whether esport or physical sport (and it is the correct way to balance) Everything else is skill issue not balance issue, deal with it
@@goochipoochie noone out there balancing physical sports lmao like nerf messi he too good fr and as for online games... riot should look at the majority theyre the ones they make money from theyre the ones the game is for even sime of my friend who are immortal and some other youtubers who are ranked high think the omen nerf is unjustifed im an omen main and i think i cant control chokes or just the game entirely as i did pre nerf
idk man, the phoenix buff and new armor, new gun are all pretty big new things. The game is very unique but how do you kill a competitive game? Abloteriate the balance so they have to be very careful.
I spent many hours making goofy one ways for post plants and defense, but it seems now all my time has been wasted... Feels bad man... This won't stop me from locking omen tho, the teleports were what made interested in playing him in the first place
A nerf to lower a character's skill ceiling is never something I will ever agree with. Really a bummer he can't throw those one-ways anymore. He's not much weaker, but now he's more one-dimensional.
How is placing one-ways skillful? The main thing is knowing they exist, but placing one does not require much skill, and you don't need to learn lineups like Cypher cage or Sova, you just check for doorways with ledges and wiggle your mouse until it's in the right spot... Like, it's sad they removed them, but it wasn't really skillfull and didn't have much counferplay, so I don't mind it being gone
@@mansumkashyap4090how is that an indication of skill. Omen has lineups on autopilot. He was lineup easy mode. Not a huge indicator lot skill, but an unnecessary change nonetheless
There is one more unique, really strong thing aboout Omen that no one talks about: SMOKE IN THE AIR, that makes an instant one way to attack for a few seconds, while its going down. No other smoker can make that. I still think is the best smoker of the game. Cheers!
Totally agree, I think Omen’s strength as an agent in pro play is as a secondary controller (usually paired with a brim or viper) because of his replenishable smokes. On top of that the controller role in valorant is one of the least popular roles “to fill” and I feel that by nerfing him it only discourages players to play the controller role in general, I mean cloves pick rate is already high as it is.
They nerf the most fun smokes instead of bringing other smokes to his level. Then every solo queue player wonders why they have to beg for smokes every game
I have been playing Brim as the only Controller I mained since 2021. Due to that, when I recently made the shift to Omen, I never really got into those special one-ways only Omen could place. This means that my playstyle as Omen won't be any different than it ws before the nerf. To be honest I'm slightly mixed on the nerfs themselves, but I do deeply understand how these changes would be devastating for hard-core Omen players
Instead of nerfing Omen, they should have buffed the other controllers instead. Here's why: Omen's pick rate is heavily reliant on the map pool. Maps where Omen's blind and repositions are strong are considered his "good maps." He's good on Haven because his blinds are really good for stalling and executes, and he can reposition in very crucial positions quickly. But on maps like Fracture, Pearl, and Breeze, Omen is worse than smokers like Astra and Viper because his team gets less value from his blind and repositioning, due to the openness of sites and choke points. A map like Bind favors Brim and Viper more because the choke points are so crucial to the gameplay style, that stalling is more important than repositioning on the map. So, by controlling the map pool and increasing agent specific strengths, Riot can "nerf" Omen by making other controllers better. If they make Harbor a better agent with better stall and map control, we could probably replace Omen for Harbor on Abyss for example. The Map pool is also about to change, and now we have Split (Omen, Astra, secondary Viper), Fracture (Brim, Astra), Bind (Brim, Viper, Secondary Omen or Harbor), Pearl (Astra, Viper), Abyss (Omen, Astra, secondary Harbor ig), Haven (Omen, Astra, secondary Viper) and Lotus (Omen, Viper). In the coming Map pool, Astra has 5 maps where she is considered a strong primary controller, Viper can be used on any map as either a primary or secondary, Brimstone has Fracture and Bind, Harbor has some options, and Clove is a ranked agent. Riot nerfed Omen instead of making characters like Harbor or Clove better for pro play, which makes no sense since he doesn't even have the best map rotation for him.
I agree, this is the exact explanation i was looking for. I think that this nerf to Omen is just unreasonable 'cause proplay is like 1% of the game and ranked games are just random. Every duelist main will pick clove if they are not used to Omen way of placing smokes and the oneways in walls are not too common and really hard to make mid game in a short time. I personaly main Omen and i won't stop just because of this nerf but it gave some satisfaction that my hard work on learning to place these in wall oneways wasn't wasted. Controllers overall are not easy to learn and if someone new picked omen before, he wasn't that good and the hard work gave me some advantage but now it's just useless.
i played omen mainly as a playmakes like setting up executes to being the anchor of the team. having one of my strats, the one ways, being nerfed makes me feel very vulnerable and naked tbh
A nerf was probably justified due to his overwhelming pickrate over years, but we didn't even see pro teams get to play with a 5 star Astra as main competitor for the smokes spot. An then again i totally agree that the one ways weren't that strong compared to the flash but they made Omen unique :/
As an Omen main I agree that these nerfs are pretty BS. Like you have pointed out there are so many counters to them. A lot of these one ways had that hard skill ceiling anyway. It almost makes his smokes feel a little more ridged too. That’s just me though. Zero Neon Ult nerfs but fuck that Omen One-Way dude.
as a beginner/intermediate omen player, i have been watching you and i was excited to start learning/ using one ways more. to me the nerf is disappointing and it just feels like riot is lowering his skill ceiling
Cypher can throw one ways in any small piece of decoration in the map while having indestructible wires, but they think Omen was too strong while he had already received a one way nerf before.
Btw, I’ve done some testing on where Omen oneways still work, and they’re mostly like Astra. But there’s still a couple spots, One on Ascent, and a couple more I’ve found where Omen can smoke, but Astra can’t. These are hardly ever used because they are so niche so you’re never gonna be able to make them work, but it’s something to note.
9:55 bro this skye made me cry while laughing bro needs to stream hes genuinely so funny the whole first game hearing him everytime had me in tears bruh LMFAO
TBH, throughout times, 2 characters seemed to me that they were overpowered in a good way in their prime, Omen and Sova. They were never annoying to play against, they could just do a whole lot of things in a varity of situations, so even though they were op on paper, it still felt fair to play against. On the other hand, characters like Chamber, Raze, Jett, Astra, neon, Iso were OP in a very unhealthy way. They could do one/few overpowered bullshit thing but was able to do it so well that there was basically no counter to it. Some of the "overpowered" but well designed characters (In their prime) are Sova, KJ, Omen, Fade, Gekko, Clove(Ranked) , KAYO (Pro play) and Cypher (Except for the unbreakable trips) .
What they should do is, 1. Bring back all the og one-way, including the pixel and map geometry one ways 2. Make the smoke last a bit shorter when placed as a one way
if they want other controllers to have a better pickrate, they should buff them and not nerf one controller. AND THEY CARE SO MUCH abt the proplay where things are entirely different for normal players. they did the same to viper,she was balanced but due to her pickrate in FUCKING PROPLAY they nerfed her. i wont be surprised if they nerf omen more. all my oneway knowledge for nothing.
I personally think omen is good not because the one ways but the abilities itself. He has massive retake ability with his blind and he can cut up an entire defense and split sites in half and mix the enemies up with his teleports which makes him very powerful. He did not need a nerf on his smoke there is many ways to play around a one way. His kit is just powerful and in the right hands can be very strong for throwing enemies off like holding an angle for a pick and teleporting away and etc.
if they wanted all agents to be able to smoke the same I would have thought they'd make it so you could smoke more precisely with ipad smokers like brim and clove, like on fracture they can't even pick between below and above some surfaces.
Im sad and happy for omen at the same time, bc i would hate it even more if they somehow nerfed the blind and the tp's. It still sucks tho, it was nice and unique for omen to have those one-ways that other smoke agents can't throw..
If the strong thing about Omen was his teleports and his blinds, then I think that's all the more reason to be glad it was his one ways that got nerfed. Also, the presence of a counter to one ways doesn't negate the effectiveness of them. There IS a lot of util to get past one ways, but saving your util for the one ways means not using them in other scenarios. I think all the nerf does is bring him in line with other Controllers
I had exactly the same thoughts about those changes. And something even more sad is that neon got hardly any nerfs. Just some overall changes to game mechanics
I absolutely agree that buffing other agents is the way to go instead of nerfing fun and unique agents... look at what they did to my sweet jett and viper...
I know I'm late to this, but I feel like Omen was in a great place, and smokes are in a relatively safe place in terms of balance at the highest level of play. Fix the duelists (cough cough, Neon), and then strive to balance from there. But this is Riot's MO, with League, they switch up the meta like twice per year to keep it interesting... makes sense that it's flowing into val
In my opinion one ways in general can be seen as bad design, for example from CSGO to CS2 1 ways were essentially removed (although in CSGO one ways were way worse). I 100% agree, Omen's Blind is his best piece of util. One ways in general can be worked around, and I don't think Omen's one ways specifically were a HUGE issue. If there were certain points on maps where omen could get a extremely advantageous 1-way, they could change the structure of the map to delete the spots (although much more work would be required)
I am interested in getting the most out of my main, and well I happen to main omen, so I learned this one ways and I liked using them. Not necessarily they were giving me an unfair advantage - at the end of the day, it takes some time to set them up, besides the fact that you need to train them, and as it was mentioned, many ways to counter it (sometimes you even get blasted by a guy who pushes through it with no util). It was reasonable reward for reasonable effort and there are only few places were omen one-ways were pivotal in team’s strategy (lotus a main). Quite disappointed to see that nerf. On the other hand, we still have ability to do falling smokes. But I will miss that very rare interaction when someone in your team is genuinely impressed by the fact that you know a one-way for position they are holding
10:48 If riot actually cared to improve the game they'd make it so this kinda shit doesn't happen. The inconsistencies with the close TP are so tedious to deal with. Let us pick a place to tp with a ping or something in advance and let us activate it when we're ready instead of jumping out in front of the other team and getting shafted cause the game is poorly made
The one way thing made me sad. His smokes have no uniqueness compared to other smokes now where they are have their uniqueness. Brim is instant, can't see in them, and last forever. Clove smokes post death and is only 2 seconds shorter than Omen. Astra can Insta and fake smoke from literally anywhere and they are larger and then she can stun and suck from anywhere while she rotates.
The change was to make all the dome-smoke controllers consistent. Despite the one-ways being niche, Omen smokes were simply better because of this option. The fact that his smokes are effected by gravity is still unique only to him, and can have some very high skilled applications, so the skill expression is still there. For the sake of consistency, they should definently go back through the maps and let every dome-smoke controller place smokes on ledges where omen can tp (among other agents who can boost themselves or others), because that's pretty dumb.
i also believe the nerf was useless. but as an omen player i never utilized the one ways other then the basic ones. yeah on ascent i used the door one ways and maybe bind but omen was already pretty alright on bind. That is the point though, Omen himself was already a unique controller so i dont think these nerfs were necessary. Imo he was already balanced and the astra buffs were already giving omen a run for his money for who the best controller was. AND the double controller meta was alresdy in affect
There was no need to nerf Omen, his smokes that are able to be put in unique places like that is what gave omen his flare amoungst the controllers. I think this nerf is completely unecesarry and they should undo changes.
as a day 1 Omen player, I don't really care about the nerf much because I literally never use one-ways and the rest of the kit is untouched, but I would still prefer if the nerf didn't happen simply because I know a lot of my fellow Omen players out there actually did use the one ways
I think A nerf is super justified but not this one. This reminds me of the situation w the fade bungee lineups when they removed them. If a character is broken uou dont take the cool tech that makes them unique and makd them more boring just so they are in line w the other agemts of that class instead you should focus solely on the main reason they are strong and tone that down. Buffing the other controllers would t work bc smokes are already super strong in pro play and even double smokes is used a lot so they buffs would just make the controller class way too strong Nerfs j think omen should have instead of the oneway nerf. Smoke timer The smokes should regenerate a lot slower bc at this point omens have too many smokes in a roundand can basically permanently smoke a chokepoint so up that timer a lil bit. 2. Omen paranoia should be wayyyy shorter. At this point in time it has the length of a full breach ultimate almost and close to half the width which means if u want to execute a site like ascent a site. You can hit half the site with the blind w full consistency
As omen main, it sucks si ce the ony util you can utilize for team is smoke and teleport. Ultimate is situational due to it being useless almost all the time except stealing spike and changing site. Enemy can litteraly hear where you tp.
For me, The nerf isn't that bad, yes it's sad that he cannot do cool oneways anymore, and overall making him less creative with smoking position and somewhat lower his difficulty and the fun playing him, it even taking away his signature compare to other Controllers which is "unique oneways". But like you said, Omen shines with his tps and blind, he's far from bad and will still be a strong Controller, but I would lie if I say I'm okay with this nerf
I saw an interview with a riot dev. They nerfed omen for the “lore” reason not even because of the one ways being good. RUclips channel called skill capped- valorant. They have the interview with the riot dev.
when I read the patch note I tested the same one way on ascent and I find that the nerf is maybe bug (I hope so) or just too important, hoping that they rollback ^^', omen one way was what make the agent unique
Im low rank so I didn't really get affected by the one way changes (was learning them at the time). However, it just sucked that a character that is pretty much normal ranked to have this "loophole" around his kit taken away. They could have nerfed other agents but oh well.
@@jren1341 he has a 70 percent pick rate in pro play which is insane. i’m an omen main but i still understand he was broken even tho i’m sad abt the nerfs
@ say that again but slower… he’s great in pro play (games where team plays are necessary to win) bc he’s good at playing by himself… either way that pickrate is worth a nerf no matter what you say
Exactly. Like why is Brim’s smokes not hollow then? No one questions that. Why can brim and clove smoke 3 choke points at the same time? Why can Astra fake smoke? Omen doesn’t have those. I think developers should consult radiants and other pro players before making changes. They themselves might be plat diamond or even silver who can’t counter Omen one ways. Like what’s wrong with them?
The worst part about the nerf is that because they essentially didn’t change anything about his smokes for the vast majority of players, it will probably never get changed back. Balancing the game around the top .01% of cases is the stupidest way to go about balance.
u literally answered ur own question, a low to average elo person prolly doesnt even know what an one way is, so this change doesnt affect them at all but in pro play where omen was literally the most picked agent , this will balance him out. so this is a genius way to go about a nerf
@ no one uses the obscure one ways in pro games so that means nothing to them. He’s picked for the flash, and highly refreshable smokes with good range. They’re gonna see nothing change with him and then nerf him again because he’s the same in pro games and that’s how they balance the game which is a terrible way to go about it.
They did it for a good reason… but I think they could’ve made it so others could use the one ways omen could. omen was the ONLY smoke played in high level play. Because he had these one ways and he was never made to play like that. We found geometry that can be used. One ways are respected. They made it so every smoker can smoke the same thing. That makes sense from a balancing standpoint. I honestly think they should’ve made it possible for other smokers to use some of those positions. Opposed to nerfing omen. But I think one or the other had to happen I just think should’ve been buff for others But either way I think it’ll shake things up a little bit. Makes other smokers more viable. I think we will see more diverse smokes now
In my opinion, I always thought omen was the most balanced agent in Valorant. His repositioning is good his 50/50 tp plays, his team plays are good. So knowing he's an agent that could be nerfed makes me worried that riot will make the agent unbalanced.
I’m so sad about this nerf towards omen, it’s so unnecessary and I couldn’t believe they thought this is a good idea. Every controller have their own unique way when it comes to smokes, now they have stripped it away from omen and he is the only one who doesn’t have a uniqueness in his smokes anymore like it’s just a typical normal smoke plus the smoke doesn’t last long just like cloves smoke. Omens smoke is hard to use already, to become a good omen smoker you need to be ready and know where to smoke in the split second before the enemy hits knowing one ways in the spot just makes it a large skill that you can learn like just adds up to your skill when it comes to omen but as we know one ways can be easy countered…, and omens smoke needs to travel and it’s not like clove, brim, where you can put smokes instantly This nerf doesn’t affect him it just hurts his own uniqueness from his smokes compared to other controllers 😢
I think this comment section is really stuck on the sement of nostalgia of the character rather than balance and the overall question of was it healthy? Unless you wanted omen to be hard nerfed in other ways? This change was main reason he was incredibly dominant of a smoke on almost every map because of how overpowered his smokes were. Also they have zero intention of giving omen any buff unless his winrate dramatically drop. Also no this is not a omen exclusive thing either viper actually can do the same exact thing for the price of the fact she cannot grab her orb. The initial gimmick of Omen was the fact it's free placement and recharge. Clove is the innovation on that for being able to smoke after death at the cost of her having the lost uptime on her ult and limited range. You guys are simply not worried about his balance some of his one ways if you did not want to pour utility into the smoke? You have to burn utility or you die if you wait till it drops he could cycle that same smoke up to 2 more times, omen is thee perfect smoke taking away his sentinel esc powers was the most healthy riot could have done. If they took away his flash being decent a lot of TP plays would just die.
IT WAS NECESSARY IT PUTS HIM IN LEAGUE WITH OTHER SMOKES AND SMOKES ARE SUPPOSTED TO BLOCK ANGLES NOT CREATE ONE WAY FOR KILLS AND HALF BLOCK ANGLES REST OMEN MAIN KEYS ARE HIS TELEPORT AND FLASH WHICH ARE REALLY GOOD AND MAIN THINGS
5:26 Surprised anyone can say that without breaking into hysterical laughter 😂 Riot’s balancing, in all their games, has always been questionable at best and at worst, completely unnecessary.
this is how i felt when they functionally removed double shocks from the game. like I get it was a little silly, but now it feels like there are way less cool line ups and ideas. its just more and more the same stuff
imo since i have to look exactly where i want to smoke and cant sit in a corner and hold my angle while smoking why cant i smoke on purple boxes in altered reality is bs
The omen nerfs feels a bit unnecessary since it limits areas you can deny(like sage boost mid sunset,etc.). Plus unlike other controllers omen set smokes 1 at a time and takes time to travel and bloom. While others like clove or brim just places it down... I agree why not just buff other smokes to do one ways too 😂
imo, the deserved nerf, not exactly the right one, but 80% pickrate in pro is saying something at least. It is a different situation with omen than with any other character that had such a high pickrate, omen is not broken, it is just slightly better than other smokes. Omen's don't drop crazy amount of kills, they don't duel mindlessly. All in all, i can see WHY nerf omen, but there was no actual NEED to, i was sure something would happen eventually, and im glad its not THAT bad.
Anyone who genuinely thought that out of all the agents Omen was the one that needed a nerf is the kind of genius who'd nerf the queen in chess if they could.
anyone who looks at omen pick rates in pro play and thinks he doesnt need a nerf is the kind of genius who is ok with buffing the pawns to go any direction
A lot of people saying in the comments that omen is now no different from other controllers but im confused. What other controller has a tp and an insane blind? What is this echochamber
They absolutely should have buffed other characters like brim. IDK what are the uses of his stim in pro play are, it is barely useful in ranked. They even got out of their way to "nerf" brim of all people.
The simplification of omen was so strange. I don’t think omen is a problem at all and this nerf doesn’t really make sense. Like it just took away his options instead of adjusting his strengths. Feels like a lame change just for the sake of making him easier.
@ omen is and interesting character to play with and against. He offers both sides new and unique options to engagements. The other smokers often lack in that are. Most of their strategies are to one note/uninteresting. To me that sounds like the other smokers are at fault. Even then, if we still wanted to knock omen down a peg. Why would removing his creativity and lowering not only his skill ceiling but the way to express him, be the optimal option to go with. If omen is to strong I could think of other nerfs or indirect nerfs that could be made. In my opinion this game should focus on letting people express their play styles, but keeping the oppressive ones in check.
And what about Neon? Her 100% accuracy isn’t nerfed. So is riot going for a game completely based on RNG? Then I must say they’re calling in their own demise
Honestly, doesn't matter if it was justified or not. Riot has been removing mechanics from the game for a while now. Like Jett not being able to go for double updraft peeks anymore, Skye not being able to fake flash properly anymore and Raze now being much slower and reducing the amount of possbile plays she can do. Don't get me started on Viper, they straight up killed the line-up playstyle (which I personally wasn't a fan of, but it still removed a possible way to play the game). Omen is just another victim on the list. Riot needs to stop removing depth from the game. Period.
This should nerf omen by the rest of his stuff. If a smoker cannot smoke properly, it’s not a real smoker. Just by having only 1 tp and less stronger flash would be a decent nerf
Omen one ways was what made his smokes unique. Astra can fake smoke, Brim has longer and cloudy smokes, Clove can smoke after dying and Harbor has a bulletproof smoke. Nerf was unnecessary.
Right? His shadow view is pretty much pointless now. Why not just give him a UI of the map to make smoking faster. But that would be the worst possible change they could make :/
then how come omen with with his niche was dominating pro play while the others weren't? he deserves it
@@wehawt2345 his other util. an omen blind nerf could have been ok but smokes were unnesecary
@@wehawt2345Have you listened to the video? The proplay choose omen because of the capability of making coordinated strats with his flash
Omen has long rang with fast recharging smokes
Edit: Also his smokes last longer than cloves yet they recharge for the same time
This Omen nerf was unnecessary. It was a very unique "ability" of his and now they took it away. Same as his blind travel speed. In the past you could throw the blind at different speed, depening if you're moving forwards, backwards or standing still. They took it away for no reason
THEY TOOK IT AWAY!?!?! OHHH HELL NAHHH!!
Just like they did with Cypher. Riot why do useless nerffff???
wait what? i was like okay smoke nerfed thats alright but the damned blind speed too? breh they done ruined my boy
@@malgamer6969 the blind nerf was like a year ago if not more
@OwenKelch no? i used to do it just like 5 days ago or so lol im talking about the blind being slow when you move backwards and faster if u click W. or is it just a placebo effect on me idk
Brim: Can put 3 smokes at the same time thar last half the round
Clove: Can put smokes while dead
Viper: Smoke and wall damages you
Astra: plays fuckin simcity
Harbour: smoke that blocks bullets
The only thing that made omens smoke different from the other agents (like brim, clove and astra) was the possibility of doing one ways. Now it is just a regular smoke that does not have any major differential
Mid air smokes for momentary 1way anywhere you want, high precision smokes thus best rechargeable 1ways in the game.
Bro that astra description got me dead😂😂
I main Omen and I do feel that this nerf is unjustified. Omen as an agent doesn't have any offensive ability, apart from his blind and like a few other agents like jett, raze, you need to have skill to play this agent. The matery ceiling for Omen in particular is high because it takes time to learn him and its not really a beginer friendly agent. Taking away his one-ways won't really impact his pick rate for those that main him, but it definitely makes the game less fun.
With omen you traded "not being able to smoke as fast as clove and brim" for "being able to throw one ways" which made smoking slower but more impactful
Now you are forced to throw same smokes as everyone else AND you are way slower than everyone else
I think we were getting too much with Omen smoke controls. You can still do midair smokes, do smokes as you want for places with different elevations, you get high precision with Omen smokes, so you can make same, but better 1ways than Brim/Clove/Astra can
@@FaryhSanhow is it same but better. That differential is cancelled out by practice. Midair smokes especially how slow they come out are useless because they fall down. The elevation thing is not even that impactful
@@mijkphlt No I mean you can place smokes lower than Brim and Clove and they will stick, so some 1ways are better. For example, on Ascent A main, with Omen you can place regular 1way lower so that attackers can't see you, while other controllers have worse 1way there. Midair smokes are used to make temporary 1ways in different places, you can place it higher than ground, wait for triangle to disappear behind the cover and peek once it is gone and you will see enemy legs. I can't understand why some people want to give him tablet and remove those advantages. If smoke placement is slow, it is indicator to work on pacing and not reduce agent versatility
@@FaryhSan fair enough, but honestly I’m actually worried for omen, since these are such niche advantages compared to what others have. He only needed a nerf to the refresh time, cost of tp and something to give paranoia more counterplay. They did not need to remove actual mechanics.
This is where I believe riot is a bit too idealistic. They think they can make valorant as strategic as csgo s tactical nature or something of the same vein but keep abilities and gunplay at the same time. But that’s not how it really is in practice. The whole concept of using abilities attract people to the game because of the hero shooter like vibes . If they wanted a tactical game they watch something different. It makes the game less enjoyable, even if it becomes more balanced an tactical. Especially with all the rng spray patterns. I get the need to balance but they are starting to tip over the line of removing “fun” from the game.
The reasoning for his nerf is the reasons riot always used in league which is "this character is strong in pro plays" while neglecting the fact 99% of the playerbase aren't pro players
That's the reasoning for any competitive game in existence, whether esport or physical sport (and it is the correct way to balance)
Everything else is skill issue not balance issue, deal with it
@@goochipoochie noone out there balancing physical sports lmao like nerf messi he too good fr and as for online games... riot should look at the majority theyre the ones they make money from theyre the ones the game is for even sime of my friend who are immortal and some other youtubers who are ranked high think the omen nerf is unjustifed im an omen main and i think i cant control chokes or just the game entirely as i did pre nerf
@@babayaga6933 Dude high school wrestling changed takedown points from 2 to 3 because takedowns weren’t valuable enough at the highest level.
the game is becoming less creative as time passes unfortunately
True. Bit by bit, they are taking away the uniqueness of the agents in the game.
idk man, the phoenix buff and new armor, new gun are all pretty big new things. The game is very unique but how do you kill a competitive game? Abloteriate the balance so they have to be very careful.
That's why i also main Yoru along with omen. Unlimited expressing creativity.
@@wyattwelton8599what new gun?
@@1Layl2 the outlaw
I spent many hours making goofy one ways for post plants and defense, but it seems now all my time has been wasted... Feels bad man... This won't stop me from locking omen tho, the teleports were what made interested in playing him in the first place
Not nerfing neon and nerfing omen is CRAZYYY
A nerf to lower a character's skill ceiling is never something I will ever agree with. Really a bummer he can't throw those one-ways anymore. He's not much weaker, but now he's more one-dimensional.
How is placing one-ways skillful? The main thing is knowing they exist, but placing one does not require much skill, and you don't need to learn lineups like Cypher cage or Sova, you just check for doorways with ledges and wiggle your mouse until it's in the right spot... Like, it's sad they removed them, but it wasn't really skillfull and didn't have much counferplay, so I don't mind it being gone
@@nofabe u a duelist main?
@@mansumkashyap4090how is that an indication of skill. Omen has lineups on autopilot. He was lineup easy mode. Not a huge indicator lot skill, but an unnecessary change nonetheless
Throwing a one way smoke isn't skillful. You're getting rewarded for exploiting unintended game design.
@ fair enough. Though it is an easy enough exploit to Learn.
Omen got nerfed.
Flexinja:- Nah I'd win.
There is one more unique, really strong thing aboout Omen that no one talks about: SMOKE IN THE AIR, that makes an instant one way to attack for a few seconds, while its going down. No other smoker can make that. I still think is the best smoker of the game. Cheers!
Skill expression? whats that? we dont need that ~~Riot probably
Totally agree, I think Omen’s strength as an agent in pro play is as a secondary controller (usually paired with a brim or viper) because of his replenishable smokes. On top of that the controller role in valorant is one of the least popular roles “to fill” and I feel that by nerfing him it only discourages players to play the controller role in general, I mean cloves pick rate is already high as it is.
They nerf the most fun smokes instead of bringing other smokes to his level. Then every solo queue player wonders why they have to beg for smokes every game
I have been playing Brim as the only Controller I mained since 2021. Due to that, when I recently made the shift to Omen, I never really got into those special one-ways only Omen could place. This means that my playstyle as Omen won't be any different than it ws before the nerf. To be honest I'm slightly mixed on the nerfs themselves, but I do deeply understand how these changes would be devastating for hard-core Omen players
Riot: gosh, people still aren’t picking harbor for whatever reason.... Oh I know how to fix it! Nerf Omen.
Instead of nerfing Omen, they should have buffed the other controllers instead.
Here's why: Omen's pick rate is heavily reliant on the map pool. Maps where Omen's blind and repositions are strong are considered his "good maps." He's good on Haven because his blinds are really good for stalling and executes, and he can reposition in very crucial positions quickly. But on maps like Fracture, Pearl, and Breeze, Omen is worse than smokers like Astra and Viper because his team gets less value from his blind and repositioning, due to the openness of sites and choke points. A map like Bind favors Brim and Viper more because the choke points are so crucial to the gameplay style, that stalling is more important than repositioning on the map.
So, by controlling the map pool and increasing agent specific strengths, Riot can "nerf" Omen by making other controllers better. If they make Harbor a better agent with better stall and map control, we could probably replace Omen for Harbor on Abyss for example.
The Map pool is also about to change, and now we have Split (Omen, Astra, secondary Viper), Fracture (Brim, Astra), Bind (Brim, Viper, Secondary Omen or Harbor), Pearl (Astra, Viper), Abyss (Omen, Astra, secondary Harbor ig), Haven (Omen, Astra, secondary Viper) and Lotus (Omen, Viper).
In the coming Map pool, Astra has 5 maps where she is considered a strong primary controller, Viper can be used on any map as either a primary or secondary, Brimstone has Fracture and Bind, Harbor has some options, and Clove is a ranked agent. Riot nerfed Omen instead of making characters like Harbor or Clove better for pro play, which makes no sense since he doesn't even have the best map rotation for him.
I agree, this is the exact explanation i was looking for. I think that this nerf to Omen is just unreasonable 'cause proplay is like 1% of the game and ranked games are just random. Every duelist main will pick clove if they are not used to Omen way of placing smokes and the oneways in walls are not too common and really hard to make mid game in a short time. I personaly main Omen and i won't stop just because of this nerf but it gave some satisfaction that my hard work on learning to place these in wall oneways wasn't wasted. Controllers overall are not easy to learn and if someone new picked omen before, he wasn't that good and the hard work gave me some advantage but now it's just useless.
i played omen mainly as a playmakes like setting up executes to being the anchor of the team. having one of my strats, the one ways, being nerfed makes me feel very vulnerable and naked tbh
A nerf was probably justified due to his overwhelming pickrate over years, but we didn't even see pro teams get to play with a 5 star Astra as main competitor for the smokes spot. An then again i totally agree that the one ways weren't that strong compared to the flash but they made Omen unique :/
As an Omen main I agree that these nerfs are pretty BS. Like you have pointed out there are so many counters to them. A lot of these one ways had that hard skill ceiling anyway. It almost makes his smokes feel a little more ridged too. That’s just me though.
Zero Neon Ult nerfs but fuck that Omen One-Way dude.
as a beginner/intermediate omen player, i have been watching you and i was excited to start learning/ using one ways more. to me the nerf is disappointing and it just feels like riot is lowering his skill ceiling
MY ONE WAYSSS MY WHOLE PERSONALITYYYYY, MY HOURS ON CUSTOM MATCHESSS
I havent seen a nerf for omen like that since the great oneway drop
Cypher can throw one ways in any small piece of decoration in the map while having indestructible wires, but they think Omen was too strong while he had already received a one way nerf before.
Btw, I’ve done some testing on where Omen oneways still work, and they’re mostly like Astra. But there’s still a couple spots, One on Ascent, and a couple more I’ve found where Omen can smoke, but Astra can’t. These are hardly ever used because they are so niche so you’re never gonna be able to make them work, but it’s something to note.
i feel like they nerfed omen bc its a 3 v 1 they rather nerf one character thats played more then buff the 3 others that are less used
9:55 bro this skye made me cry while laughing bro needs to stream hes genuinely so funny the whole first game hearing him everytime had me in tears bruh LMFAO
TBH, throughout times, 2 characters seemed to me that they were overpowered in a good way in their prime, Omen and Sova. They were never annoying to play against, they could just do a whole lot of things in a varity of situations, so even though they were op on paper, it still felt fair to play against. On the other hand, characters like Chamber, Raze, Jett, Astra, neon, Iso were OP in a very unhealthy way. They could do one/few overpowered bullshit thing but was able to do it so well that there was basically no counter to it.
Some of the "overpowered" but well designed characters (In their prime) are Sova, KJ, Omen, Fade, Gekko, Clove(Ranked) , KAYO (Pro play) and Cypher (Except for the unbreakable trips) .
What they should do is,
1. Bring back all the og one-way, including the pixel and map geometry one ways
2. Make the smoke last a bit shorter when placed as a one way
if they want other controllers to have a better pickrate, they should buff them and not nerf one controller. AND THEY CARE SO MUCH abt the proplay where things are entirely different for normal players. they did the same to viper,she was balanced but due to her pickrate in FUCKING PROPLAY they nerfed her. i wont be surprised if they nerf omen more. all my oneway knowledge for nothing.
I personally think omen is good not because the one ways but the abilities itself. He has massive retake ability with his blind and he can cut up an entire defense and split sites in half and mix the enemies up with his teleports which makes him very powerful. He did not need a nerf on his smoke there is many ways to play around a one way. His kit is just powerful and in the right hands can be very strong for throwing enemies off like holding an angle for a pick and teleporting away and etc.
Omen needed a nerf because of you cris 😂😂
if they wanted all agents to be able to smoke the same I would have thought they'd make it so you could smoke more precisely with ipad smokers like brim and clove, like on fracture they can't even pick between below and above some surfaces.
Im sad and happy for omen at the same time, bc i would hate it even more if they somehow nerfed the blind and the tp's. It still sucks tho, it was nice and unique for omen to have those one-ways that other smoke agents can't throw..
If the strong thing about Omen was his teleports and his blinds, then I think that's all the more reason to be glad it was his one ways that got nerfed. Also, the presence of a counter to one ways doesn't negate the effectiveness of them. There IS a lot of util to get past one ways, but saving your util for the one ways means not using them in other scenarios. I think all the nerf does is bring him in line with other Controllers
And casual omen's don't even throw those smokes, it's only the omen mains or people who know how to play omen well enough.
I had exactly the same thoughts about those changes.
And something even more sad is that neon got hardly any nerfs. Just some overall changes to game mechanics
10:35 bro still manages to find a way around the nerf 😂
he said the clips are pre nerf
I absolutely agree that buffing other agents is the way to go instead of nerfing fun and unique agents... look at what they did to my sweet jett and viper...
I miss omen being able to one-way already…
Also 16:02 that table slam was personal 💀
I know I'm late to this, but I feel like Omen was in a great place, and smokes are in a relatively safe place in terms of balance at the highest level of play. Fix the duelists (cough cough, Neon), and then strive to balance from there. But this is Riot's MO, with League, they switch up the meta like twice per year to keep it interesting... makes sense that it's flowing into val
In my opinion one ways in general can be seen as bad design, for example from CSGO to CS2 1 ways were essentially removed (although in CSGO one ways were way worse).
I 100% agree, Omen's Blind is his best piece of util. One ways in general can be worked around, and I don't think Omen's one ways specifically were a HUGE issue. If there were certain points on maps where omen could get a extremely advantageous 1-way, they could change the structure of the map to delete the spots (although much more work would be required)
I am interested in getting the most out of my main, and well I happen to main omen, so I learned this one ways and I liked using them. Not necessarily they were giving me an unfair advantage - at the end of the day, it takes some time to set them up, besides the fact that you need to train them, and as it was mentioned, many ways to counter it (sometimes you even get blasted by a guy who pushes through it with no util). It was reasonable reward for reasonable effort and there are only few places were omen one-ways were pivotal in team’s strategy (lotus a main). Quite disappointed to see that nerf. On the other hand, we still have ability to do falling smokes. But I will miss that very rare interaction when someone in your team is genuinely impressed by the fact that you know a one-way for position they are holding
Lowkey felt out of the blue. Especially with the blue blur running around with unanimous opinions that she should be nerfed.
10:48
If riot actually cared to improve the game they'd make it so this kinda shit doesn't happen. The inconsistencies with the close TP are so tedious to deal with. Let us pick a place to tp with a ping or something in advance and let us activate it when we're ready instead of jumping out in front of the other team and getting shafted cause the game is poorly made
The one way thing made me sad. His smokes have no uniqueness compared to other smokes now where they are have their uniqueness. Brim is instant, can't see in them, and last forever. Clove smokes post death and is only 2 seconds shorter than Omen. Astra can Insta and fake smoke from literally anywhere and they are larger and then she can stun and suck from anywhere while she rotates.
The change was to make all the dome-smoke controllers consistent. Despite the one-ways being niche, Omen smokes were simply better because of this option. The fact that his smokes are effected by gravity is still unique only to him, and can have some very high skilled applications, so the skill expression is still there. For the sake of consistency, they should definently go back through the maps and let every dome-smoke controller place smokes on ledges where omen can tp (among other agents who can boost themselves or others), because that's pretty dumb.
i also believe the nerf was useless. but as an omen player i never utilized the one ways other then the basic ones. yeah on ascent i used the door one ways and maybe bind but omen was already pretty alright on bind. That is the point though, Omen himself was already a unique controller so i dont think these nerfs were necessary. Imo he was already balanced and the astra buffs were already giving omen a run for his money for who the best controller was. AND the double controller meta was alresdy in affect
9:55 What a beautiful sound bro XD
This nerf don't broke omen but make him less fun for sure... idk why they come with the idea of nerfing omen tbh..
Nerfing the uniqueness of an agent and on the other hand still keeping neon in the game is crazy.
There was no need to nerf Omen, his smokes that are able to be put in unique places like that is what gave omen his flare amoungst the controllers. I think this nerf is completely unecesarry and they should undo changes.
9:54 Skye is so me on 1v1😭😭
as a day 1 Omen player, I don't really care about the nerf much because I literally never use one-ways and the rest of the kit is untouched, but I would still prefer if the nerf didn't happen simply because I know a lot of my fellow Omen players out there actually did use the one ways
I think A nerf is super justified but not this one. This reminds me of the situation w the fade bungee lineups when they removed them. If a character is broken uou dont take the cool tech that makes them unique and makd them more boring just so they are in line w the other agemts of that class instead you should focus solely on the main reason they are strong and tone that down. Buffing the other controllers would t work bc smokes are already super strong in pro play and even double smokes is used a lot so they buffs would just make the controller class way too strong
Nerfs j think omen should have instead of the oneway nerf.
Smoke timer
The smokes should regenerate a lot slower bc at this point omens have too many smokes in a roundand can basically permanently smoke a chokepoint so up that timer a lil bit.
2. Omen paranoia should be wayyyy shorter. At this point in time it has the length of a full breach ultimate almost and close to half the width which means if u want to execute a site like ascent a site. You can hit half the site with the blind w full consistency
As omen main, it sucks si ce the ony util you can utilize for team is smoke and teleport.
Ultimate is situational due to it being useless almost all the time except stealing spike and changing site. Enemy can litteraly hear where you tp.
For me, The nerf isn't that bad, yes it's sad that he cannot do cool oneways anymore, and overall making him less creative with smoking position and somewhat lower his difficulty and the fun playing him, it even taking away his signature compare to other Controllers which is "unique oneways". But like you said, Omen shines with his tps and blind, he's far from bad and will still be a strong Controller, but I would lie if I say I'm okay with this nerf
I saw an interview with a riot dev. They nerfed omen for the “lore” reason not even because of the one ways being good.
RUclips channel called skill capped- valorant. They have the interview with the riot dev.
when I read the patch note I tested the same one way on ascent and I find that the nerf is maybe bug (I hope so) or just too important, hoping that they rollback ^^', omen one way was what make the agent unique
Im low rank so I didn't really get affected by the one way changes (was learning them at the time). However, it just sucked that a character that is pretty much normal ranked to have this "loophole" around his kit taken away. They could have nerfed other agents but oh well.
Flex serious question, does this affect your legacy?
Was Omen's Nerf Justified? No.
yes. a nerf was needed but they nerfed the wrong thing
@@sirjamjam101he was perfectly fine
@@jren1341 he has a 70 percent pick rate in pro play which is insane. i’m an omen main but i still understand he was broken even tho i’m sad abt the nerfs
@@sirjamjam101 How is be broken? Omen is great in pro-play because he has the ability to play for himself.
@ say that again but slower… he’s great in pro play (games where team plays are necessary to win) bc he’s good at playing by himself… either way that pickrate is worth a nerf no matter what you say
Exactly. Like why is Brim’s smokes not hollow then? No one questions that. Why can brim and clove smoke 3 choke points at the same time? Why can Astra fake smoke? Omen doesn’t have those. I think developers should consult radiants and other pro players before making changes. They themselves might be plat diamond or even silver who can’t counter Omen one ways. Like what’s wrong with them?
whats ur crosshair i like it
The worst part about the nerf is that because they essentially didn’t change anything about his smokes for the vast majority of players, it will probably never get changed back. Balancing the game around the top .01% of cases is the stupidest way to go about balance.
u literally answered ur own question, a low to average elo person prolly doesnt even know what an one way is, so this change doesnt affect them at all
but in pro play where omen was literally the most picked agent , this will balance him out. so this is a genius way to go about a nerf
@ no one uses the obscure one ways in pro games so that means nothing to them. He’s picked for the flash, and highly refreshable smokes with good range. They’re gonna see nothing change with him and then nerf him again because he’s the same in pro games and that’s how they balance the game which is a terrible way to go about it.
They did it for a good reason… but I think they could’ve made it so others could use the one ways omen could. omen was the ONLY smoke played in high level play. Because he had these one ways and he was never made to play like that. We found geometry that can be used. One ways are respected.
They made it so every smoker can smoke the same thing. That makes sense from a balancing standpoint.
I honestly think they should’ve made it possible for other smokers to use some of those positions. Opposed to nerfing omen. But I think one or the other had to happen I just think should’ve been buff for others
But either way I think it’ll shake things up a little bit. Makes other smokers more viable. I think we will see more diverse smokes now
In my opinion, I always thought omen was the most balanced agent in Valorant. His repositioning is good his 50/50 tp plays, his team plays are good. So knowing he's an agent that could be nerfed makes me worried that riot will make the agent unbalanced.
I’m so sad about this nerf towards omen, it’s so unnecessary and I couldn’t believe they thought this is a good idea. Every controller have their own unique way when it comes to smokes, now they have stripped it away from omen and he is the only one who doesn’t have a uniqueness in his smokes anymore like it’s just a typical normal smoke plus the smoke doesn’t last long just like cloves smoke.
Omens smoke is hard to use already, to become a good omen smoker you need to be ready and know where to smoke in the split second before the enemy hits knowing one ways in the spot just makes it a large skill that you can learn like just adds up to your skill when it comes to omen but as we know one ways can be easy countered…, and omens smoke needs to travel and it’s not like clove, brim, where you can put smokes instantly
This nerf doesn’t affect him it just hurts his own uniqueness from his smokes compared to other controllers 😢
idk if they can buff any other agent enough to take omen meta cuz even if u buff other controllers he still have things non of the other can do
I think this comment section is really stuck on the sement of nostalgia of the character rather than balance and the overall question of was it healthy?
Unless you wanted omen to be hard nerfed in other ways? This change was main reason he was incredibly dominant of a smoke on almost every map because of how overpowered his smokes were. Also they have zero intention of giving omen any buff unless his winrate dramatically drop.
Also no this is not a omen exclusive thing either viper actually can do the same exact thing for the price of the fact she cannot grab her orb. The initial gimmick of Omen was the fact it's free placement and recharge. Clove is the innovation on that for being able to smoke after death at the cost of her having the lost uptime on her ult and limited range.
You guys are simply not worried about his balance some of his one ways if you did not want to pour utility into the smoke? You have to burn utility or you die if you wait till it drops he could cycle that same smoke up to 2 more times, omen is thee perfect smoke taking away his sentinel esc powers was the most healthy riot could have done. If they took away his flash being decent a lot of TP plays would just die.
omen should be able to do those smokes because his smokes are easier to mess up and is slower to execute
What made omen smokes unique is gone omen smokes are harder to throw and they removed the one way
IT WAS NECESSARY IT PUTS HIM IN LEAGUE WITH OTHER SMOKES AND SMOKES ARE SUPPOSTED TO BLOCK ANGLES NOT CREATE ONE WAY FOR KILLS AND HALF BLOCK ANGLES
REST OMEN MAIN KEYS ARE HIS TELEPORT AND FLASH WHICH ARE REALLY GOOD AND MAIN THINGS
That Skye tho in that first game. I like that guy, he has a battlecry
Paranoia being one of the best util in the best
Riot: nerfs smokes
5:26 Surprised anyone can say that without breaking into hysterical laughter 😂 Riot’s balancing, in all their games, has always been questionable at best and at worst, completely unnecessary.
This omen nerf thought me that there were so many unique smoke placements I could have done to win so many of my games :(
Strongest omen player ngl ngl
this is how i felt when they functionally removed double shocks from the game. like I get it was a little silly, but now it feels like there are way less cool line ups and ideas. its just more and more the same stuff
imo since i have to look exactly where i want to smoke and cant sit in a corner and hold my angle while smoking why cant i smoke on purple boxes in altered reality is bs
The omen nerfs feels a bit unnecessary since it limits areas you can deny(like sage boost mid sunset,etc.). Plus unlike other controllers omen set smokes 1 at a time and takes time to travel and bloom. While others like clove or brim just places it down... I agree why not just buff other smokes to do one ways too 😂
I generally thought that the omen was balanced normally. I would say this agent was perfect for everyone - both beginners and pro players. was..
yeah, omen nerfs got me too, but i enjoyed your video man, thx❤
Crosshair code? pls
freakin hate the nerf, loved learning omen from u btw
8:17 two second clip lmao
imo, the deserved nerf, not exactly the right one, but 80% pickrate in pro is saying something at least. It is a different situation with omen than with any other character that had such a high pickrate, omen is not broken, it is just slightly better than other smokes. Omen's don't drop crazy amount of kills, they don't duel mindlessly. All in all, i can see WHY nerf omen, but there was no actual NEED to, i was sure something would happen eventually, and im glad its not THAT bad.
Anyone who genuinely thought that out of all the agents Omen was the one that needed a nerf is the kind of genius who'd nerf the queen in chess if they could.
anyone who looks at omen pick rates in pro play and thinks he doesnt need a nerf is the kind of genius who is ok with buffing the pawns to go any direction
@@wehawt2345 Notice how neither one of the geniuses decided to just keep both the pawns and the queen as they are
@@Mann_Person may because pawns where indeed moving in all direction and needed to be toned down
A lot of people saying in the comments that omen is now no different from other controllers but im confused. What other controller has a tp and an insane blind? What is this echochamber
crosshair pls
Bro the title reminded of my report.
That research proposal type title
They absolutely should have buffed other characters like brim. IDK what are the uses of his stim in pro play are, it is barely useful in ranked. They even got out of their way to "nerf" brim of all people.
Rough times man, rough times....
Jett viper omen neon nerfs ARE A CRIME AGAINST GAMING NOT JUST VALORANT
As for the one way issue talk to a dev about it, the worst thing they can say is no
omen standing (existing)
riot: nerf
The simplification of omen was so strange. I don’t think omen is a problem at all and this nerf doesn’t really make sense. Like it just took away his options instead of adjusting his strengths. Feels like a lame change just for the sake of making him easier.
but it was a problem? he was the most picked agent in VCT he offered waaayy more than his fellow smokes so it is 100% deserved
@ omen is and interesting character to play with and against. He offers both sides new and unique options to engagements. The other smokers often lack in that are. Most of their strategies are to one note/uninteresting. To me that sounds like the other smokers are at fault.
Even then, if we still wanted to knock omen down a peg. Why would removing his creativity and lowering not only his skill ceiling but the way to express him, be the optimal option to go with. If omen is to strong I could think of other nerfs or indirect nerfs that could be made.
In my opinion this game should focus on letting people express their play styles, but keeping the oppressive ones in check.
And what about Neon? Her 100% accuracy isn’t nerfed. So is riot going for a game completely based on RNG? Then I must say they’re calling in their own demise
Honestly, doesn't matter if it was justified or not. Riot has been removing mechanics from the game for a while now. Like Jett not being able to go for double updraft peeks anymore, Skye not being able to fake flash properly anymore and Raze now being much slower and reducing the amount of possbile plays she can do. Don't get me started on Viper, they straight up killed the line-up playstyle (which I personally wasn't a fan of, but it still removed a possible way to play the game).
Omen is just another victim on the list. Riot needs to stop removing depth from the game. Period.
This should nerf omen by the rest of his stuff. If a smoker cannot smoke properly, it’s not a real smoker. Just by having only 1 tp and less stronger flash would be a decent nerf