I purchased the 90 and just purchased the 105 for 719 straight. I am thinking that I would probably use the SONY more if I am filming because of the AF.
Frankly, I would get the sigma lens. I’m not a professional, so for my personal use, the price of the sigma fits better. I just bought the sigma 85mm F1.4 so, unfortunately, it’ll be a little while before I consider buying another lens.
Hello Pav, thanks for the brilliant video. FYI, your format, for this channel, is IMO just perfect. It's the right blend of technical and aesthetic information and your sample photos are excellent for each topic. You are rapidly becoming one of my three favorite and trusted sources for photo info. Thanks again!
Thank you for the informative review. It is nice to know that I do not have to regret the purchase of the Sony 90 mm lens that I have been used for my Sony Alpha 7R III for a few months. It is a real pleasing set. Besides a special thank you for your way of speaking that is easy to understand for me as a German.
Totally agree! Sigma is just faster auto focusing when not shooting macro. I do love my Sony 90mm for macro- it's unbeatable but Sigma is just a touch better and being better overall
Thank you so much for your work. I've jumped off the deep end with photography recently (COVID inspired) and your reviews are epic. I've probably seen 100s of hours of different RUclips reviewer content at this point... you're top-notch.
How does the manual focusing compare for macro work? Can Sigma's focus by wire manual focus as easily / precisely as the Sony? Is there any manual focus lag with the Sigma compared to the Sony? Can you make a video comparing the stabilization as follows ... 90mm OSS vs 105mm IBIS vs 90mm OSS + IBIS? It'd be nice to see what, if any difference there is for macro and non macro images.
I've got the Tokina 100mmm Macro on my Nikon (which I love) but it'll mostly likely be put into retirement when I can get hold of the Sigma 105mm for my S1R.
After couple months of using Sigma Macro lens I found that you will have no issue if using tripod but when you do macro photography by handheld and manual focus then OSS will help you a lot
For use on my Sony a7Siii shooting mainly video, the Sony 90 wins because of I.S. Also the Sony has excellent low light focusing where the Sigma gets lost in the neighborhood.
Just the kind of review I was looking for. Considering the lenses for both macro and portraits, I lean towards the Sigma, I think it's more versatile because of the more pleasing bokeh and longer focal length which produce better portraits.
The Bokeh difference is all down to the focal length. However most macro photographers want the largest depth of field, otherwise you are just photographing an insects eye. If you want a portrait lens buy a portrait lens.
Thanks for this video! Although I know these two ones (Sony 90, Sigma 105) are very close in performance, however I prefer the Sony version, because it looks a bit like those lenses from the Minolta era. 😉
Hey, I have a confusion between Sony or Sigma which one should i buy as Sony is $692 and Sigma is $832 here in my Country. So is there anything that outstanding in Sigma for spending the $140 difference?
I'm one of those Sony A6400 users so the OSS feature pushed me towards the Sony lens. A friend has the Sigma and he concurs that it's just as good with regards to what it produces.
I used a7III and a7sII - I use manual focus going that close. Sharpness wouldn't be affected by different SONY cameras but the ability to crop in post to get closer would. More resolution, bigger chance to get even closer to your subject by cropping
My new Siggy 105 Macro was delivered yesterday. It was the last lens transition of my Canons to Sony/Sigma/Tamron and this replaced my Canon 100 L that I was using with a metabones V on my new Sony's. Transition now complete from 30 years of Canons to Sony Full Frames and APS-C's. All but one lens for my Sony's was influenced partially by your reviews. Too bad you can't get a commission for that! 🤣
I don't think macro lens is the best lens choice for food photography, unless you want to go molecular on it - haha. Also 90mm or 105mm focal length will require you to step back a bit to get a whole plate in. I personally use 50mm or 24-105 for all my food photography.
probably - the depth of filed is crazy shallow already. Extension tubes, even if they do work, might make using any of these lenses very difficult to use
Thank you. So well explained and well presented, as always. Now I have all the answers to the primary questions about both of these lenses. But one more - Which lens among both have longest focus travel?
@@apierleoni yes but the fact is that this literally makes no difference in real world. In my experience I didn't think that Sigma's manual focusing was any different or inferior than Sony's
it's very similar. Focus travel on macro lenses is very long so they will never be suitable or great at autofocusing at macro magnifications. Manual is the only reliable way to do it. Shooting portrait or any other non macro style of photography, Sigma is marginally quicker. Newer lens
Thanks. Very helpful comparison. I have a Sony A7ll. Looking into a macro lens. I like Sigma macro, but how important is IS? Will it perform well with my camera? Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Going into proper macro magnifications you will have to close the aperture as DOF will be crazy shallow. This will also most likely require a tripod. If it is bright enough and you can crank up ISO/Shutter speed than the lack of IS on Sigma is not a deal breaker
With so little between them, I think people might choose one over the other based on what lenses they already have, or what their needs are outside of macro photography. The 90mm might be preferable in a small headshot studio, while the 105mm might be picked for outdoor portraits.
Thank you for the review but i didn't understand what you explain about the Sigma is collecting more dust. Do you mean that dust is going inside the lense and behind the glass inside ?
I think Sony could commpensate the price with the fact that is more comfortable to use and has a few very important spect on its design for macro photography better than Sigmas. This was a very very great review Pav breaf and to the point keep these comming please.
Ive been reading lots of reviews of this lens. I will be using this lens strictly for close up insect macro. So naturally many of the features discussed don't matter to me. I generally shoot in manual and move the camera back and forth to fine tune focus depth. I also NEVER shoot at F/2.8. Min is F/8 for more DOF. Everyone compares the sharpness to the Sony at F/2.8. I need to know how it compares at F/8. Maybe the Sony surpasses it? Did you do any sharpness comparisons at higher apertures? btw- keep up the great work on your videos.
that't the only way to shoot macro! I don't really do much of the side by side technical comparisons like that but after shooting with both of these lenses for awhile now I can't see that there would be any difference at f8
You make great movies - picture, sound, light, editing and your message of course. I will be a regular spectator. Thank you and congratulations! I am prior to buying a macro lens. First of all, to be used in the film. For Sony A7SIII camera. Which lens do you recommend only for filming, especially in the macro option - Sony 90mm or Sigma 105? Still a difficult decision even after your comparison :) I would be grateful for the hint. Greetings from Poland :)
no to bylo trzeba tak odrazu 😉 Sigma gives you a tiny bit more reach but Sony has got that really nice pull/push af on/off switch and trust me, you'll need manual focus when filming with any macro lens. Have you seen my review of 90mm lens? I own both of these lenses now and it is very hard to tell you which one I'd prefer more for macro video work - both excellent.
Hej, nie wiem jak w filmowaniu, ale jesli chodzi o macro, to wybrałbym Sigmę. Sony jest podobno dobre, ale trzeba trafić na odpowiedni egzemplarz. Ja nie miałem szczęścia i trafiłem na bardzo słabą kopię. Oddałem i kupiłem Voitlandera 110, a od jakiegoś czasu posiadam też Sigmę. One sie uzupełniają. Do zdjęć stricte macro ( 1:1 ) przy niskich wartościach przysłony, ta do f/4.0, Sigma lepiej się sprawdza, od 5.6 są identyczne. W kwestii dystansu Voitek jest lepszy. ma nieco lepsze kolory i ostrość. Nie wiele, ale jednak. Obawiałem sie MF w Sigmie, ale jest lepiej niż dobrze :)
it's good for video work but you can forget AF - like with all macro lenses the focus travel from infinity to minimal focusing distance is too long. Out of these two, Sony is a better choice as the manual focusing is linear. Check out my full review of the 90mm with video samples in it: ruclips.net/video/y93BWWNm_n8/видео.html
2 years later and I still love the Sigma Macro, now using it on the A7RV I do notice problems with the Insect eye AF. It finds the eye/body but is focusing rapidly back and forth so when burst shooting half the images are blurry. I went back to this video to check AF performance and you said they're both similar so I'm just hoping for a Mark 2 on the Sony or Sigma that will hopefully fix this.
7:26 Actually, I did that. I found it made at least 300 bucks of sense. Being that I sold the Sony 90mm for 800 and bought a secondhand Sigma 105mm DG DN in mint condition for 475. So now I have 300 bucks for other stuff, which makes a lot of sense in my book.
actually I had a 90mm, I have sold it and ordered the sigma 105mm. Main reason was that 90mm is optimised to get round bokeh balls at f5.6, and using it for portrait at f2.8 the bokeh balls were not round. Sigma is round at 2.8, and I also preferred the 105mm for portrait. I really hope the sigma is going to be easy to focus manually as the 90mm that was amazing.
@@PavSZ thank you so much for the review! I need a macro lens for Sony a iv, for beauty close ups & video, I take pictures of myself so I use a tripod. I need a really best lens😅 Could you help me to decide?🙏 Thank you in advance!🌹
they also often use macro tilt-shift lenses .... and focus stacking but very often it is juts a digital models of jewellery, especially rings. This way they can have sharpness exactly how they want it
@@PavSZ Yes, many times they use 3D digital design as you say but they also do macro photography sessions, the lack of videos to do this type of photostacking is impressive, the information is practically nil, how much I would like you to do it this October 26 that sigma for sale and I'm waiting for it in amazon spain or BH, greetings!
Since sony is an older lens one can often find it cheaper - I got mine for 550$ almost new & in warranty. Its going new in India for just over 700$. The sony OSS gives a little more stabilization & from some other reviews that the Sony MF works better. Personally I prefer the sigma bokeh - they seem very equally matched. I just wish they would make their lightweight earlier MF version too!
Very nice review, thanks a lot. At this moment the Sony lens is reduced with 300 euro, and the price is close as 30 euro to the SIgma one. I will order the Sony, since they are at the same price, but it has stabilization and that clutch for manual focus seems very nice to use.
I am thinking the same .. but.... i love the Sigma bokeh when out on location.. i want both but can only afford one... i think the Sony will win and then i will get the Samyang 135/1.8 for the outside bokeh shots..
Ciao ottima recensione, volevo chiederti se era possibile aggiornare i link per scaricare i file raw per fare il confronto, ho provato quello che hai messo in descrizione ma mi dice che il trasferimento è scaduto. grazie e buon anno
both would do good job. Not the best choice for video (if you are not going to use macro). The focus travel is very long from macro to infinity making it auto focus slow sometimes
@@PavSZ I want to buy it to shoot confectionery photos and videos. This will not be used as the main lens for the video - only for cooking details / portraits of pastry chefs
@@tashmatoff there is nothing in between them quality or performance wise when using AF - in manual Sony wins as is has better manual ring and manual focus switch
@@PavSZ Thanks for the last answer - it made me rethink. I decided not to buy a macro anyway. Think about 85 1.4 sigma or 55 1.8 zeiss and sony 85 1.8. For video and shooting details, it will be better in my opinion
Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro Lens what they refer os here, it mean optical stabilization, is image stabilization different than optical stabilization
Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro is an older version - In my video I am talking about Sigma 105mm f2.8 DG DN which has got no stabilisation what so ever.
@@niteshdaswani9432 it depends for which camera. DG DN lenses are designed for mirrorless cameras. Yes they have removed stabilisation from the newer version to make it smaller and lighter. Not everyone needs it
Ita a very good comparison my friend.., i'm are sigma boy when it comes to the sharpness.., but i'm sony boy when it comes to the power of AF 😂 But the problem is Can anyone give me a suggest between the Sony and the sigma..., I have the sigma 85mm so that i don't need the function from the macro lens to take potraits.. For the body is using a7iii with IBIS in the body.., so i dont think i need that much from the OSS of the sony lens.., and i prefer the sharpest of the sigma.., but i think there are much considering the power from sony in the AF, switch easily the AF by just push or pull the focus ring, and the OSS for the video..., I know from my opinion its like more good for me to take the sigma but i'm still confused because there are no much second hand sigma lens in the market that i can buy from...😂😂 Thank you for thr videos ❤
Any reason you kept the Sony over the Sigma? I’m looking for a macro lens but also want to do portraits. Based on the reviews and comparisons, the Sony with OSS is a better buy with better resell value. Any thoughts?
Just to let you know that the Sigma 105 Macro is not compatible with the Sony A7iv. The manual function flickers and makes it impossible to use the manual focus components of the Sony camera. Spend the extra $300 and buy the Sony lens.
@@dentaltv I haven't seen any lens for a mirrorless cameras that closes more than f22 (I might be wrong). With very small apertures you also get lens diffraction. Focus stacking is the only solution to get less dof
@@PavSZ PS: I'm talking about dental photography where we need max Dof and lens diffraction has never been an issue in this field of photography (I'm shooting digital since 1999 starting with the Nikon D1 at that time)
Such a hard decision to make. Do I want to have another heavy Sigma lens without OS, but better image quality that's cheaper than the Sony. Or do I want a lighter lens with OSS, slightly worse image quality, better focus ring, but costs a lot more...
Why samples are iso 1000? Thats why you didn't see difference in sharpness, at iso 100 sigma would be sharper lens. Also need to mention that sigma got worse AF and focus ring got long delay while sony focus ring is faster, AF speed I could forgive, but focus ring with such delay is something that was driving me crazy and sold sigma. I would go for sony 90mm all the way even if its softer.
what gave you the idea that all my samples were shot at ISO 1000?? There were all shot at different settings, depending on the situation. Many of them at ISO 100
Globally Sigma lenses are about 10-15% cheaper than the Sony ones. However, that doesn't seem to be true in India (past experience). So, I feel Sigma price is going to be very similar to Sony 90mm in India or may be even higher than Sony once lauched (Sony 90mm is priced at £580 here). If both are priced equally which one will you prefer for macro and portraits? p.s. - My camera (A6400) doesn't have stabilization.
Which one would you go for (if you didn't have a macro lens already)??
I have 90m from Sony. I use this lens the most, it is very sharp!
I purchased the 90 and just purchased the 105 for 719 straight. I am thinking that I would probably use the SONY more if I am filming because of the AF.
I have a vintage macro that kicks both their asses lol
@@Ansonandco I bet!!
Frankly, I would get the sigma lens. I’m not a professional, so for my personal use, the price of the sigma fits better. I just bought the sigma 85mm F1.4 so, unfortunately, it’ll be a little while before I consider buying another lens.
Hello Pav, thanks for the brilliant video. FYI, your format, for this channel, is IMO just perfect. It's the right blend of technical and aesthetic information and your sample photos are excellent for each topic. You are rapidly becoming one of my three favorite and trusted sources for photo info. Thanks again!
Wow, thank you!!!
wow, i was really looking for this battle. Glad you made a video of it. Thank you Pav
Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching!
Thank you for the informative review. It is nice to know that I do not have to regret the purchase of the Sony 90 mm lens that I have been used for my Sony Alpha 7R III for a few months. It is a real pleasing set. Besides a special thank you for your way of speaking that is easy to understand for me as a German.
Awesome comparison. The best I’ve seen. Lots of photo samples. They’re so similar. I liked the Sony images slightly more, but they’re so close
great review + full size sample raw files...thanks a lot!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really appreciate the sincerity in the way you talk, great work and hope to see this passion continues!
I appreciate that! thank you so much
Your channel deserves waaaayy more subscribers, excellent comparison !
I appreciate that! Thank you sooooooo much!
Awesome review! Thank you
Hi. Just discovered your channel. Love your reviews and films. Thank you.
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you for this comparison!
My pleasure!
Thank you for the video! Subbed! I think your reviews are clear and constructive!
Awesome, thank you!
E mount 90mm macro was the first lens i bought for my Sony cam. Never regret, it's sharpness is impeccable, even great for head shots.
Totally agree!
Sigma is just faster auto focusing when not shooting macro. I do love my Sony 90mm for macro- it's unbeatable but Sigma is just a touch better and being better overall
Excellent review! Thank you! For me personally, the OSS is well with the price difference. It helps me a ton with hand held shots. Take care!
thanks!
Really appreciate the comparison 🙏
thanks! Amazing beard dude! Love your channel
U should have added a handheld video stability comparison of both the lenses..
Would love to see them how they perform in video...
there are very little differences - at macro magnifications it is just impossible to get anything hand held with these.
Thank you so much for your work. I've jumped off the deep end with photography recently (COVID inspired) and your reviews are epic. I've probably seen 100s of hours of different RUclips reviewer content at this point... you're top-notch.
Glad you like them! Thank you very much!
Great Review man!
Thanks a ton!
How does the manual focusing compare for macro work? Can Sigma's focus by wire manual focus as easily / precisely as the Sony?
Is there any manual focus lag with the Sigma compared to the Sony?
Can you make a video comparing the stabilization as follows ... 90mm OSS vs 105mm IBIS vs 90mm OSS + IBIS? It'd be nice to see what, if any difference there is for macro and non macro images.
Thanks for the RAW files!
you're welcome!
Great review. Sharp, succinct and to the point. Thanks for your work, you have made my decision to go Sigma very easy!
Glad it was helpful! Good choice!
I couldn't make my mind up which I like more in the end ... so I have both now :(
I've got the Tokina 100mmm Macro on my Nikon (which I love) but it'll mostly likely be put into retirement when I can get hold of the Sigma 105mm for my S1R.
Loving your reviews
Thanks Peter!
Hello. Thanks for the review. Which one will you recommend for the sony A7iii ? Thanks
Another watchable review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome review man! Very enthusiastic 🤩 and clear 👏👏👏
Thanks a ton!
I love cake! hmmmm
sorry to disappoint you but piece of carrot cake a day keeps this dad bod this round ... nice 😉
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent review!
Thank you kindly!
Great and very useful review. Going for the Sigma on this one.
Good choice!
After couple months of using Sigma Macro lens I found that you will have no issue if using tripod but when you do macro photography by handheld and manual focus then OSS will help you a lot
it will not do much at macro magnifications, the depth of field is too shallow when you go really close
Great comparison. I will go for the sigma:) Thanks for your detailled test!
My pleasure!
@@PavSZ i have (because of a great deal in the black friday week) change my mind and buy yesterday the SONY 90macro 😎😍
This was amazing thank you ❤️❤️❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am also amazed that you'd comment on my video - thank you
Cool video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
You deserve so many more subscribers!
Oh thank you!
Great video, I've been doubting for a while. Sigma seems to be the best choice for me!
Good choice!
For use on my Sony a7Siii shooting mainly video, the Sony 90 wins because of I.S. Also the Sony has excellent low light focusing where the Sigma gets lost in the neighborhood.
Just the kind of review I was looking for. Considering the lenses for both macro and portraits, I lean towards the Sigma, I think it's more versatile because of the more pleasing bokeh and longer focal length which produce better portraits.
I still think it is
The Bokeh difference is all down to the focal length. However most macro photographers want the largest depth of field, otherwise you are just photographing an insects eye. If you want a portrait lens buy a portrait lens.
Thank you ❤ i really like the sigma , may be one day i will buy it 🙏
You should!
Thanks for this video!
Although I know these two ones (Sony 90, Sigma 105) are very close in performance, however I prefer the Sony version, because it looks a bit like those lenses from the Minolta era. 😉
it really does!
thank you for watching!
love the overview. thanks for so many examples and to-the-point discussion. Best part was "I forgot to bring the f..cking cases" LOL
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Just sibbed, hope you reach 10 k ! By the way ~ I heard the 90 is not weather sealed ! Did they update ?
thank you very much!
I think it is weather sealed - as far as I know it is
Hey, I have a confusion between Sony or Sigma which one should i buy as Sony is $692 and Sigma is $832 here in my Country. So is there anything that outstanding in Sigma for spending the $140 difference?
I'm one of those Sony A6400 users so the OSS feature pushed me towards the Sony lens. A friend has the Sigma and he concurs that it's just as good with regards to what it produces.
Thanks for the review! I was leaning towards the Sony, you just saved me a few bucks!
Glad I could help! thanks for watching!
Still consider the Sony because of the easy accessible manual focus ring
Which camera do you use to shoot those insects and flowers with these two lens? Would the sharpness be different from using different Sony cameras?
I used a7III and a7sII - I use manual focus going that close. Sharpness wouldn't be affected by different SONY cameras but the ability to crop in post to get closer would. More resolution, bigger chance to get even closer to your subject by cropping
I’m very happy with the Laowa macro apo 2x
good lens!
My new Siggy 105 Macro was delivered yesterday. It was the last lens transition of my Canons to Sony/Sigma/Tamron and this replaced my Canon 100 L that I was using with a metabones V on my new Sony's. Transition now complete from 30 years of Canons to Sony Full Frames and APS-C's. All but one lens for my Sony's was influenced partially by your reviews. Too bad you can't get a commission for that! 🤣
haha I wish they would pay me for every time someone buys them.
Good choice though - Sigma is a great lens
Thanks for the review. Which one will do best food photography in your opinion?
I don't think macro lens is the best lens choice for food photography, unless you want to go molecular on it - haha.
Also 90mm or 105mm focal length will require you to step back a bit to get a whole plate in.
I personally use 50mm or 24-105 for all my food photography.
@@PavSZ ruclips.net/video/3aE7iFI401g/видео.html
Would it work if I put extension tubes on the 100mm gm lens?
Just curious 😄
probably - the depth of filed is crazy shallow already. Extension tubes, even if they do work, might make using any of these lenses very difficult to use
Thank you. So well explained and well presented, as always. Now I have all the answers to the primary questions about both of these lenses. But one more - Which lens among both have longest focus travel?
I think it is too long on both to measure easily - not one to manually throw from macro to infinity in under 10 seconds on either of them 😉
@@PavSZ worth noting the sigma 105mm only focus by wire, while the sony 90mm has linear manual focus
@@apierleoni yes but the fact is that this literally makes no difference in real world. In my experience I didn't think that Sigma's manual focusing was any different or inferior than Sony's
@@PavSZ great! thanks for sharing
@@PavSZ Alright great, Thank you for replying 😊
can u compare the Auto-Focus abilities of the two lenses ?
it's very similar.
Focus travel on macro lenses is very long so they will never be suitable or great at autofocusing at macro magnifications. Manual is the only reliable way to do it.
Shooting portrait or any other non macro style of photography, Sigma is marginally quicker. Newer lens
Thanks. Very helpful comparison. I have a Sony A7ll. Looking into a macro lens. I like Sigma macro, but how important is IS? Will it perform well with my camera? Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Going into proper macro magnifications you will have to close the aperture as DOF will be crazy shallow. This will also most likely require a tripod. If it is bright enough and you can crank up ISO/Shutter speed than the lack of IS on Sigma is not a deal breaker
@@PavSZ thanks
Thanks!
Welcome!
With so little between them, I think people might choose one over the other based on what lenses they already have, or what their needs are outside of macro photography. The 90mm might be preferable in a small headshot studio, while the 105mm might be picked for outdoor portraits.
very true
90mm v 105mm isn’t big enough difference to really matter in either situation imo
Thank you for the review but i didn't understand what you explain about the Sigma is collecting more dust. Do you mean that dust is going inside the lense and behind the glass inside ?
on the outside - the whole rubber/plastic is a dust magnet
Thanks for the feedback.
hello please suggest which lens is better for jewelry? Which more sharper?
they are both very sharp
I think Sony could commpensate the price with the fact that is more comfortable to use and has a few very important spect on its design for macro photography better than Sigmas. This was a very very great review Pav breaf and to the point keep these comming please.
thank you so much!
Ive been reading lots of reviews of this lens. I will be using this lens strictly for close up insect macro. So naturally many of the features discussed don't matter to me. I generally shoot in manual and move the camera back and forth to fine tune focus depth. I also NEVER shoot at F/2.8. Min is F/8 for more DOF. Everyone compares the sharpness to the Sony at F/2.8. I need to know how it compares at F/8. Maybe the Sony surpasses it? Did you do any sharpness comparisons at higher apertures? btw- keep up the great work on your videos.
that't the only way to shoot macro!
I don't really do much of the side by side technical comparisons like that but after shooting with both of these lenses for awhile now I can't see that there would be any difference at f8
@@PavSZ Ok thanks!
Review aside, beautiful images man!
Thank you!
You make great movies - picture, sound, light, editing and your message of course. I will be a regular spectator. Thank you and congratulations! I am prior to buying a macro lens. First of all, to be used in the film. For Sony A7SIII camera. Which lens do you recommend only for filming, especially in the macro option - Sony 90mm or Sigma 105? Still a difficult decision even after your comparison :) I would be grateful for the hint. Greetings from Poland :)
no to bylo trzeba tak odrazu 😉
Sigma gives you a tiny bit more reach but Sony has got that really nice pull/push af on/off switch and trust me, you'll need manual focus when filming with any macro lens. Have you seen my review of 90mm lens?
I own both of these lenses now and it is very hard to tell you which one I'd prefer more for macro video work - both excellent.
Hej, nie wiem jak w filmowaniu, ale jesli chodzi o macro, to wybrałbym Sigmę. Sony jest podobno dobre, ale trzeba trafić na odpowiedni egzemplarz. Ja nie miałem szczęścia i trafiłem na bardzo słabą kopię. Oddałem i kupiłem Voitlandera 110, a od jakiegoś czasu posiadam też Sigmę. One sie uzupełniają. Do zdjęć stricte macro ( 1:1 ) przy niskich wartościach przysłony, ta do f/4.0, Sigma lepiej się sprawdza, od 5.6 są identyczne. W kwestii dystansu Voitek jest lepszy. ma nieco lepsze kolory i ostrość. Nie wiele, ale jednak. Obawiałem sie MF w Sigmie, ale jest lepiej niż dobrze :)
Is carrying case really a factor for choosing a lens?
it could be for someone
2:14 Is the AEL button already chipped? Or is it just a fuzz?
no idea what was that - something stuck on the edge of the button. Didn't notice it while filming
@@PavSZ Great thanks for the reply
Do you think sony 90mm macro is useful for video works ? How is afc for video ?
it's good for video work but you can forget AF - like with all macro lenses the focus travel from infinity to minimal focusing distance is too long.
Out of these two, Sony is a better choice as the manual focusing is linear.
Check out my full review of the 90mm with video samples in it: ruclips.net/video/y93BWWNm_n8/видео.html
2 years later and I still love the Sigma Macro, now using it on the A7RV I do notice problems with the Insect eye AF. It finds the eye/body but is focusing rapidly back and forth so when burst shooting half the images are blurry. I went back to this video to check AF performance and you said they're both similar so I'm just hoping for a Mark 2 on the Sony or Sigma that will hopefully fix this.
this is quite normal with all macro lenses. Manual focusing is the answer
I like the overall lighting and atmosphere, but your focal plane for your product close up is too thin
yeah, sure
7:26 Actually, I did that. I found it made at least 300 bucks of sense. Being that I sold the Sony 90mm for 800 and bought a secondhand Sigma 105mm DG DN in mint condition for 475. So now I have 300 bucks for other stuff, which makes a lot of sense in my book.
Well done!!!
Newbie talking here. Is Lens breathing common in Macro lenses? is there a difference in breathing between the Sony and the Sigma?
Focus breathing is common with all macro lenses. I haven't seen one that doesn't suffer from it yet.
@@PavSZ thnx for getting back to me. I was wondering if (me talking as a newbie) I had a faulty Sony unit
actually I had a 90mm, I have sold it and ordered the sigma 105mm. Main reason was that 90mm is optimised to get round bokeh balls at f5.6, and using it for portrait at f2.8 the bokeh balls were not round. Sigma is round at 2.8, and I also preferred the 105mm for portrait. I really hope the sigma is going to be easy to focus manually as the 90mm that was amazing.
I think it is as easy to focus manually as Sony - it's just switching auto/manual is not as easy
I guess you can use DMF if you need the manual focus.
@@gala3285 yes you can with Sigma
What do you think about sigma after sony?
@@tashmatoff quality is clearly better on a7RIV but handling and manual focus were much better on the sony.
Awesome review
Thanks for the compare !
I would buy a sigma 105 haha
I couldn't decide which one is better so now I have both 😕
@@PavSZ thank you so much for the review! I need a macro lens for Sony a iv, for beauty close ups & video, I take pictures of myself so I use a tripod. I need a really best lens😅 Could you help me to decide?🙏 Thank you in advance!🌹
@@olgagolz both of these lenses are amazing. Only you can decide which one is better for you
Can you try with jewerly photography using photostacking like great brands does with his jewels
I have made Focus Stacking video tutorial before. Check it out: ruclips.net/video/0IbBAEE8Zbk/видео.html
who is "great brands" ? Cant find it on youtube
@@user-iq9zz6xr7m Piaget, Cartier, choppard, Tiffany's, Van Cleef, Graff
they also often use macro tilt-shift lenses .... and focus stacking but very often it is juts a digital models of jewellery, especially rings. This way they can have sharpness exactly how they want it
@@PavSZ Yes, many times they use 3D digital design as you say but they also do macro photography sessions, the lack of videos to do this type of photostacking is impressive, the information is practically nil, how much I would like you to do it this October 26 that sigma for sale and I'm waiting for it in amazon spain or BH, greetings!
I don’t know about the Sigma, but I do adore the Sony! Thx for your video👍
I love them both!
Since sony is an older lens one can often find it cheaper - I got mine for 550$ almost new & in warranty. Its going new in India for just over 700$. The sony OSS gives a little more stabilization & from some other reviews that the Sony MF works better. Personally I prefer the sigma bokeh - they seem very equally matched. I just wish they would make their lightweight earlier MF version too!
@arjun rai I got it on quckr last year fr 40k. At that time new it was going for 52k (rs).
Where did you find it at that price?.
Very nice review, thanks a lot.
At this moment the Sony lens is reduced with 300 euro, and the price is close as 30 euro to the SIgma one.
I will order the Sony, since they are at the same price, but it has stabilization and that clutch for manual focus seems very nice to use.
good choice!
indeed, on amazon in eu you have 300 € off plus extra 100€ cashback ;-)
at least something is nice in 2020
I am thinking the same .. but.... i love the Sigma bokeh when out on location.. i want both but can only afford one... i think the Sony will win and then i will get the Samyang 135/1.8 for the outside bokeh shots..
For Sony fit that is expensive .. when Mine is for Canon [ EF Fit ] and it only cost me less than 400 from the Wex Camera shop in Glasgow
yeah for sure but it is an old lens not designed for mirrorless cameras and without AF on a Sony camera (unless you use an adapter)
came for the comparison, stayed and subscribed for the accent
thank you very much!
Ciao ottima recensione, volevo chiederti se era possibile aggiornare i link per scaricare i file raw per fare il confronto, ho provato quello che hai messo in descrizione ma mi dice che il trasferimento è scaduto. grazie e buon anno
I'd love to reply to your comment but I don't even know what language it is in. Is it Italian?
@@PavSZ yes he is Italian! I can not download the photos from the link, it tells me that it has expired.
@@aleroma6375 yes, that link might have had 12 months expiration date. I'll try to update it next week
Thank
@@aleroma6375 we.tl/t-2faUhZRjqR
спасибо! отличный обзор, выбрала Sigma
no idea what it means but it looks pretty
@@PavSZ she got Sigma 😊
Which one to buy for use with the sony a7c for video(not macro) ?
Сan not decide.
both would do good job. Not the best choice for video (if you are not going to use macro). The focus travel is very long from macro to infinity making it auto focus slow sometimes
@@PavSZ I want to buy it to shoot confectionery photos and videos. This will not be used as the main lens for the video - only for cooking details / portraits of pastry chefs
I understand that both of them will be good in macro, so I want to know which one will be better in video portraits(AF)
@@tashmatoff there is nothing in between them quality or performance wise when using AF - in manual Sony wins as is has better manual ring and manual focus switch
@@PavSZ
Thanks for the last answer - it made me rethink. I decided not to buy a macro anyway. Think about 85 1.4 sigma or 55 1.8 zeiss and sony 85 1.8. For video and shooting details, it will be better in my opinion
I just ordered the sigma 3 days ago
good choice!
Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro Lens what they refer os here, it mean optical stabilization, is image stabilization different than optical stabilization
Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro is an older version - In my video I am talking about Sigma 105mm f2.8 DG DN which has got no stabilisation what so ever.
@@PavSZ in new version they removed stabilization.
@@PavSZ Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro Lens
This model is not good?
@@niteshdaswani9432 it depends for which camera. DG DN lenses are designed for mirrorless cameras.
Yes they have removed stabilisation from the newer version to make it smaller and lighter. Not everyone needs it
@@PavSZ could you tell me ring flash work on the model you said
Tough decision for me. I'm more of a video guy, so I think the 90 may be the way to go due to the OSS.
at macro magnifications the OSS makes no difference what so ever
the link has expired unfortunately
here is a new link: we.tl/t-vcoDSCRlDu
@@PavSZ thank you so much!!
Hmm it’s a little strange to not compare magnification ratios for the two macro lenses. Is the Sigma 1:1 like the Sony?
yes, they are both true macro 1:1 lenses
Probably would go native w/ Sony
Sigma with Sony-E mount is also native
Ita a very good comparison my friend.., i'm are sigma boy when it comes to the sharpness.., but i'm sony boy when it comes to the power of AF 😂
But the problem is Can anyone give me a suggest between the Sony and the sigma..., I have the sigma 85mm so that i don't need the function from the macro lens to take potraits..
For the body is using a7iii with IBIS in the body.., so i dont think i need that much from the OSS of the sony lens.., and i prefer the sharpest of the sigma.., but i think there are much considering the power from sony in the AF, switch easily the AF by just push or pull the focus ring, and the OSS for the video...,
I know from my opinion its like more good for me to take the sigma but i'm still confused because there are no much second hand sigma lens in the market that i can buy from...😂😂
Thank you for thr videos ❤
It sounds like you have already answered your own question. Go for Sigma!
Just bought the Sony for $700.
So worth it!! Has already become one of my favorite lenses!
I have both of them. I think Sigma is marginally better but I keep using Sony all the time
Where did you get such a price for the Sony?
@ Facebook market
@@samuelsolisvideo3501 oh cheers I will keep my eye open for one there too.
I've had both and kept the sigma in the end
I had both and I kept Sony in the end, I wish I kept both!
Any reason you kept the Sony over the Sigma? I’m looking for a macro lens but also want to do portraits. Based on the reviews and comparisons, the Sony with OSS is a better buy with better resell value. Any thoughts?
I think the Laowa 100mm 2.8 macro lens may be better than both of these. For “macro” but for video I’m sure these 2 lenses trumps them.
Yeah for macro it might be a better lens but also for everyday none macro photography these two are better overall
The laowa is the least sharp
OSS is a big deal. Not all Sony cameras have IBIS and for those cameras, especially at the tele end, lens stabilization is worth gold.
lens stabilisation or a tripod 😉
Just to let you know that the Sigma 105 Macro is not compatible with the Sony A7iv. The manual function flickers and makes it impossible to use the manual focus components of the Sony camera. Spend the extra $300 and buy the Sony lens.
it sounds like there was something wrong with your lens.
I have it here and it works just right (and the same as 90mm) on Sony a7IV
Why not more than f 22 ??
????
@@PavSZ on my Nikon macro lens the max is f 32 allowing more depth of field
@@dentaltv I haven't seen any lens for a mirrorless cameras that closes more than f22 (I might be wrong). With very small apertures you also get lens diffraction.
Focus stacking is the only solution to get less dof
@@PavSZ check out the Nikon Z series 105mm macro !!!
@@PavSZ PS: I'm talking about dental photography where we need max Dof and lens diffraction has never been an issue in this field of photography (I'm shooting digital since 1999 starting with the Nikon D1 at that time)
Such a hard decision to make. Do I want to have another heavy Sigma lens without OS, but better image quality that's cheaper than the Sony. Or do I want a lighter lens with OSS, slightly worse image quality, better focus ring, but costs a lot more...
I had the same problem .... solved it! Got both haha
@@PavSZ haha nice, I went for the Sigma, just got in 30 minutes ago. Great lens, loud auto focus though XD
No doubt for sony
for me yes, not for everyone though. A lot of people prefer Sigma
the big problem with sony lens is when switching between AF and MF, the focus shifts.
I can't say that I have ever noticed that with mine
And price in euros? ;)
yes! look here 😉 www.google.com
Why samples are iso 1000? Thats why you didn't see difference in sharpness, at iso 100 sigma would be sharper lens. Also need to mention that sigma got worse AF and focus ring got long delay while sony focus ring is faster, AF speed I could forgive, but focus ring with such delay is something that was driving me crazy and sold sigma. I would go for sony 90mm all the way even if its softer.
what gave you the idea that all my samples were shot at ISO 1000??
There were all shot at different settings, depending on the situation. Many of them at ISO 100
@@PavSZ All samples in your link are iso 1000
But in India Sony 90mmf2.8 cost only $700
And sigma 105mm f2.8 cost $888
Then please reply a good conclusion for me
Sony has been around much longer.
I'm sure you can get Sigma cheaper second hand now
@@PavSZ thank you 😊
Sigma 105 shows it has optical stabilization you said it doesn't, can you tell
Sigma 105mm f2.8 DG DN Macro has got no stabilisation built in
@@PavSZ Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro Lens
What about this one
Globally Sigma lenses are about 10-15% cheaper than the Sony ones. However, that doesn't seem to be true in India (past experience). So, I feel Sigma price is going to be very similar to Sony 90mm in India or may be even higher than Sony once lauched (Sony 90mm is priced at £580 here). If both are priced equally which one will you prefer for macro and portraits?
p.s. - My camera (A6400) doesn't have stabilization.
Tricky question! I do own both and I like Sigma slightly more but I keep using Sony more 😉
@@PavSZ - I bought Sony and results are good in first two days.
@@PavSZ thats no answer :))
The sigma looked better to my eye and it is significantly cheaper. In Australia, Sigma is $1100 and the Sony is $1400.
I think it is a better lens quality wise