I am Holding a PC - Dell Optiplex 7070 Ultra

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @HughJeffreys
    @HughJeffreys 3 года назад +3584

    When dell can make a monitor stand more upgradable than most all-in-ones.

    • @Pearloryx
      @Pearloryx 3 года назад +35

      Yup. It can rival iMac for all in one monitors.
      Hi hugh jeffreys btw

    • @goqwertygo
      @goqwertygo 3 года назад +33

      My older Optiplex 9010/9020 is more upgrade-able than this, with a full desktop socket CPU. Although I'm about to max mine out with an i7 4790. With some modifications you can fit a regular desktop heat sink on it🤣I've been playing DOOM 2016 with a beast pcim external GPU dock and a Titan Black. just a fun side project I'm playing with. It's now older and dated, but wish they would make the newer ones CPU upgrade-able😕

    • @failsafedji1745
      @failsafedji1745 3 года назад +4

      Watch all you Videos

    • @unknownboy0
      @unknownboy0 3 года назад +1

      Hi

    • @netnoone419
      @netnoone419 3 года назад +1

      This is a nice find

  • @it991
    @it991 3 года назад +6114

    Linus’ dropping skills are so good that they have a dedicated section for it.

    • @that_kaii
      @that_kaii 3 года назад +3

      XD

    • @kahki2704
      @kahki2704 3 года назад +53

      @literally ur dope why

    • @AndroidFerret
      @AndroidFerret 3 года назад +13

      I am sure there is a compilation out there already..stuff like
      linus throwing things for 5 min straight or so

    • @JanBabiuchHall
      @JanBabiuchHall 3 года назад +32

      @literally ur dope so are you hoping to convert me to your religion or what

    • @laitinlok1
      @laitinlok1 3 года назад

      Yeah haha

  • @netskaiper2
    @netskaiper2 3 года назад +2255

    Finally, my mom can actually call my monitor “the computer”

    • @klw8801
      @klw8801 3 года назад +25

      Me: thought it were just me.

    • @jo2ke3rdzz67
      @jo2ke3rdzz67 3 года назад +3

      🤣

    • @mihan2d
      @mihan2d 3 года назад +23

      I remember I actually had a brainfart one day and thought my monitor is my computer, for a few seconds, despite I never had any experience with all-in-ones and the actual computer was sitting right there on the table beside me, assembled from scratch by myself 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @likeabosslinc
      @likeabosslinc 2 года назад +15

      My mom calls everything Nintendo

    • @tnt123skeleton9
      @tnt123skeleton9 2 года назад +6

      Nah my mam calls everything a tablet

  • @waikien
    @waikien 3 года назад +2057

    Linus- "WHY DELL WHY?!?!?!"
    Dell- "Because we were waiting for you to review the damn thing."

  • @iConceptPhones
    @iConceptPhones 3 года назад +3472

    Apple: We sell the monitor and you need to buy a stand.
    Dell: Well, we sell the stand and you need to buy a monitor.

    • @filiprehburg
      @filiprehburg 3 года назад +130

      A match made in heaven

    • @dylreesYT
      @dylreesYT 3 года назад +29

      @@filiprehburg still need to buy a VESA adapter for the Pro XDR monitor though so it's not totally match made in heaven.

    • @wta1518
      @wta1518 3 года назад +15

      @@dylreesYT a VESA adapter shouldn't be THAT expensive?

    • @haepisaus
      @haepisaus 3 года назад +71

      Apple: You buy the computer and you also need to buy the stand.
      Dell: Your stand comes with a computer.

    • @OfficialWindshineMusic
      @OfficialWindshineMusic 3 года назад +2

      Dammit wanted to make this comment

  • @sslerose
    @sslerose 3 года назад +611

    This would work so well for school computer labs, assuming any schools still have those rather than just individual laptops

    • @tigartar
      @tigartar 3 года назад +9

      add in a os like porteus and you got the perfect classroom pc for kids to use

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 3 года назад +12

      Totally agreed! It's safer and cleaner than a PC stick.

    • @alexanderjohansson2671
      @alexanderjohansson2671 3 года назад +54

      Yeah, with half the computers missing the actual computer module.

    • @hasnihossainsami8375
      @hasnihossainsami8375 3 года назад +5

      @@alexanderjohansson2671 was going to say this but you said it first.

    • @Draknad
      @Draknad 3 года назад +17

      I work in a library, we recently got these for computer labs. They work great.

  • @dumpsterdawg
    @dumpsterdawg 3 года назад +866

    Linus: "And it really does pop apart that easily"
    Kind of half expected a warranty to fall out.

    • @windowstips1430
      @windowstips1430 3 года назад +1

      They sold you 4835593 against your will so that's fine

    • @JanBabiuchHall
      @JanBabiuchHall 3 года назад +25

      @literally ur dope spam

    • @nukedathlonman
      @nukedathlonman 3 года назад +8

      The one that was free though has a reoccurring monthly charge? LOL
      But it sure is funny how a company can be so good in some ways (I think this is a wonderful idea for some people to buy), yet so awful in other ways...

    • @England91
      @England91 3 года назад +2

      @@JanBabiuchHall just report it as spam

    • @crazy_human2653
      @crazy_human2653 3 года назад

      not an undisclosed extra charge?

  • @alexanderflorizone7187
    @alexanderflorizone7187 3 года назад +912

    Linus: "This hardware is outdated"
    Me with my i7 6700hq laptop that I bought a week ago: bruh

    • @vanshnarula9857
      @vanshnarula9857 3 года назад +40

      Sad i5 4200u noises 😢

    • @TheFlash8889
      @TheFlash8889 3 года назад +16

      I5 7440HQ here😂

    • @danskyder1564
      @danskyder1564 3 года назад +23

      i7-3632QM here still going strong lol

    • @alexanderflorizone7187
      @alexanderflorizone7187 3 года назад +20

      Guess I should be grateful. i7 6700hq is a huge upgrade from my i5 3470

    • @vanshnarula9857
      @vanshnarula9857 3 года назад +17

      @@alexanderflorizone7187 nahh man don't be grateful to it , one day we will all rock i9's and ryzen 9's

  • @mollycrime
    @mollycrime 3 года назад +3039

    "It gives consumers choice." that's exactly why it isn't available to consumers

    • @chrisville25
      @chrisville25 3 года назад +122

      Thankfully him calling them out, kind of forces their hand - or they lose business to people going, "Hmm, that's a great idea!'.

    • @samuelfranco3744
      @samuelfranco3744 3 года назад +48

      Not really this actually fail to be sold because consumers didn't ask for it most projects that would seem great for consumers often just flop.

    • @adapalis
      @adapalis 3 года назад +33

      When given the choice most consumers fail. Way of the world, common sense is now rare.

    • @xijinpingpong4426
      @xijinpingpong4426 3 года назад +44

      The average consumer: I don't know what monitor is the right one for my PC, so I will just buy a PC that also is a monitor.

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 года назад +33

      You know, I really don't get this either from a business standpoint. Over in the corner, we have Dell's horrendous G5 5000 eating glue, and then over here, we have the 7070 Ultra which is both intelligently designed and consumer-friendly.
      wat?

  • @bamboopyanda
    @bamboopyanda 3 года назад +593

    You know it's good when there's a video chapter called "The drop"

    • @lukerichards6344
      @lukerichards6344 3 года назад +8

      i just saw it and
      just
      why dose he find it so easy to drop stuff
      i am still laughing

    • @Arufiishere
      @Arufiishere 3 года назад

      It's the holly drop!

    • @EminemLovesGrapes
      @EminemLovesGrapes 3 года назад

      FakeDropTips

  • @l96ai
    @l96ai 3 года назад +403

    I'm so early, Dell hasn't charge me on the warranty and home tech support, yet.

    • @Zendyes_
      @Zendyes_ 3 года назад +12

      What about financing?

    • @Luckyzoes
      @Luckyzoes 3 года назад +4

      How much will it cost tho?

    • @Zendyes_
      @Zendyes_ 3 года назад +2

      @@Luckyzoes IT would be 1500 with financing

    • @Luckyzoes
      @Luckyzoes 3 года назад +2

      @@Zendyes_ oh sht thats expensive

    • @boxhead6177
      @boxhead6177 3 года назад +2

      ... but they still probably had time to install bloatware.

  • @THE_MR_ANDRES
    @THE_MR_ANDRES 3 года назад +6

    I saw this video about two months ago and I was really impressed with the concept. I was so taken with the concept/design that I even forwarded this video to my father who had an equally enthusiastic response. Just yesterday I received my new work computer and to my surprise it was an optiplex pro. I can confirm it's just as functional as it looks and I'm very impressed with the form factor and modularity. I was worried I would have to uproot my entire gaming set up in order to accommodate for my new work computer but with help of a monitor arm vesa mount I can discretely hide my new desktop behind my secondary monitor.

  • @LKonstantina915
    @LKonstantina915 3 года назад +1475

    Apple: *Sells a 1k monitor mount that literally does nothing*
    Dell: *Sells a monitor mount pc for the half price* p a t h e t i c

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 3 года назад +8

      Why is dell pathetic?

    • @Electronic-dq2xb
      @Electronic-dq2xb 3 года назад +18

      @@Xfade81 gj

    • @andremarques4063
      @andremarques4063 3 года назад +19

      tbh apple monitor is the best money can buy at least

    • @EragoEntertainment
      @EragoEntertainment 3 года назад +87

      @@andremarques4063 It's not the best you can buy. I think even Linus made a video about that. It's just a fairly decent price compared to similar Pro displays.

    • @saint8257
      @saint8257 3 года назад +48

      @@Xfade81 it is calling Apple and those who buy the Apple stand pathetic

  • @drewdane40
    @drewdane40 3 года назад +180

    That's a pretty cool item, and I hear the warranty is really good too... And you're going to get the warranty whether you want it or not.

    • @W1ldTangent
      @W1ldTangent 3 года назад +11

      For the intended market (corporate offices) a warranty is a given, it's paid for without question, we don't even factor that into budgeting.. it's just a cost of purchase, like sales tax. We normally do 3 years and then just replace it with an equivalent new model with a new warranty, but Dell offers much longer than that if you're lazy and don't like replacing user workstations that often. Most of the Latitude/Optiplex line comes with only half their upgradeable DRAM slots filled so you can easily do a mid-life upgrade to get 5 years out of them.

    • @Girvo747
      @Girvo747 3 года назад +4

      @@W1ldTangent Dell should still not be encouraged. The way they treat consumers is disgusting.

    • @simpson6700
      @simpson6700 3 года назад

      do you want a warranty for your warranty?

    • @drewdane40
      @drewdane40 3 года назад

      @@W1ldTangent Maybe so, but I'm not criticizing anyone making the choice to purchase the warranty. What I am criticizing is Dell charging people for something the customer explicitly said they didn't want. You can see the difference, can't you?

  • @btarg1
    @btarg1 3 года назад +100

    Imagine thinking, "I wanna upgrade this PC, it's getting slow", then popping out this tiny thing from your monitor, getting a new one and slotting it in, then that's literally it

    • @neo_aphotic1097
      @neo_aphotic1097 2 года назад +1

      Or even if they just made the cpu interchangeable, that way they could make more ways for money by selling different variations of motherboards

    • @tumamaencosplay
      @tumamaencosplay 2 года назад +2

      @@neo_aphotic1097 Probabbly the R&D is not worth it, it means a normal person (the target audience for this) being willing to open an electronic, deal with thermal paste and other stuff, kinda defeats the point of the design.
      Also this is very much aimed towards basic usage, by the time a system like this gets so old it struggles to browse the internet and use office, the cpu socket will be beyond outdated and you will better off just getting the current modular model.

  • @jasonsong86
    @jasonsong86 3 года назад +211

    Engineers at Dell: Oh shit oh shit! Now we got work to do since LTT blew it up.

    • @Kiyometa
      @Kiyometa 3 года назад +7

      Engineers are done, they did their jobs, its the Logistics sides job now haha.

  • @JewishMusicToronto
    @JewishMusicToronto 3 года назад +694

    I can't believe I'd never seen this form factor before. It really does look amazing!

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 3 года назад +19

      This would be ideal for my grandfather as all he uses his PC for is emails, Word and a bit of internet browsing.

    • @thegreatbeavers
      @thegreatbeavers 3 года назад +9

      *Old Intel technology laughs in Compute Stick the size of an eraser*

    • @JewishMusicToronto
      @JewishMusicToronto 3 года назад +2

      @@thegreatbeavers I... Can't imagine the specs or connectivity are anywhere near the same.
      Though I just looked it up, and the concept is pretty cool. If I didn't know any better, I'd say the tech is basically the same as what's under the hood of Amazon Fire Sticks and Roku stick devices.

    • @Moothead2
      @Moothead2 3 года назад +3

      First time in a long time I've had the urge to buy a new PC. If they had higher core CPU models I'd be very, very tempted to grab one of these and an eGPU.

    • @KeegzAndersen
      @KeegzAndersen 3 года назад

      I know! I didn’t know this was a thing and it’s super coolz

  • @HandheldHardware
    @HandheldHardware 3 года назад +875

    Title: I am holding a PC
    Linus track record for dropping stuff: Not for long

    • @skywz
      @skywz 3 года назад +15

      And they dedicated a section to him dropping it lol

    • @Kholanee
      @Kholanee 3 года назад +1

      Where is the drop counter
      We need one
      Or two

    • @friendlytexangamer9582
      @friendlytexangamer9582 3 года назад

      @@Kholanee or a whole year's worth or decade's worth.

    • @Kholanee
      @Kholanee 3 года назад

      @@friendlytexangamer9582 let's go for decades worth

  • @O_RLY
    @O_RLY 3 года назад +207

    Maybe if Linus reviewed this on time, Dell would've made more available to consumers.

    • @SirNarax
      @SirNarax 3 года назад +5

      It is available to consumers just not as widely available.

  • @prateekpanwar646
    @prateekpanwar646 3 года назад +278

    When you get less fps on COD just tactical reload PC

    • @fuyunghay4214
      @fuyunghay4214 3 года назад +13

      Imagine if dell somehow made a "gaming" variant of this pc. You could really tac reload your old optiplex pc with the new "gaming" one lol

    • @halnineooo136
      @halnineooo136 3 года назад +1

      Dream laptop that can disassemble and reassemble like a rifle.

    • @dedemandgamer1019
      @dedemandgamer1019 3 года назад +1

      Here before comment blows up

    • @m7md95
      @m7md95 3 года назад +1

      im here b4 this guy become famous

    • @becomingyeti8363
      @becomingyeti8363 3 года назад

      Lmao

  • @karanvora2674
    @karanvora2674 3 года назад +522

    When your outdated hardware is more cutting edge than my daily driver

    • @mixit2413
      @mixit2413 3 года назад +7

      it wasn't but I had an issue with my Ryzen so using FX chip again so it now is and it kicks my work PC to death in every respect as it's an A8. I'd love this in the office it would save so much desk space and it can't be any louder than the A8.

    • @ZedDevStuff
      @ZedDevStuff 3 года назад +7

      Everything is better than my imac mid 2007 running windows 7 with 3 gb of ram

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 3 года назад +2

      Sadly my bulldoser died last year... luckily it was like 2 week prior to the pandemic.

    • @mixit2413
      @mixit2413 3 года назад

      @@matsv201 fortunately I have a spare FX8300 if my FX8350 dies and my R5
      3600 isn't dead it just won't install windows and I don't know why.

    • @asifalamgir4788
      @asifalamgir4788 3 года назад

      @@ZedDevStuff asian people with pentium E25000.. : HOLD MY BEER!!

  • @luca12957
    @luca12957 3 года назад +728

    2:50 He has become so proficient at dropping things that he doesn't even need to look anymore

    • @afklion7140
      @afklion7140 3 года назад +7

      Lonely sandwich stole your comment (you posted 3 hours ago and he did it 2 hours ago)

    • @loomish
      @loomish 3 года назад +3

      @@afklion7140 It really makes me sad...

    • @luca12957
      @luca12957 3 года назад +1

      lol

    • @Ha_ppy1
      @Ha_ppy1 3 года назад +3

      @@afklion7140 It’s What These Bad Content RUclipsrs Do

    • @Slenderirl
      @Slenderirl 3 года назад +2

      SCRIPTED y'all are so gullible

  • @achmadramadhani9513
    @achmadramadhani9513 3 года назад +50

    With ryzen and vega that thing will absolutely blown the market for everyone who want budget pc

    • @everyone01
      @everyone01 3 года назад +2

      exactly

    • @tumamaencosplay
      @tumamaencosplay 2 года назад

      Currently rocking a vega 11 on my Ryzen 2400G, it far more games at 60fps/720p/high than you would expect it to.

  • @Internetspaceships
    @Internetspaceships 3 года назад +166

    7:39 when your entire company gets hit with ransomware and the admin goes in for the tactical reload.

    • @Ce0ammer
      @Ce0ammer 3 года назад +12

      3:03 for the satisfying click. 2:55 for the complete gun readying process.

    • @burneyfeg2768
      @burneyfeg2768 3 года назад +1

      @@geekzombie8795 rack mounts would be like reloading a tank turret

  • @jasonschubert6828
    @jasonschubert6828 3 года назад +87

    When my Mum's computer died last year I bought one of these for her, happened to be almost half price at the time too. It has been great and is definitely a clean looking setup!

  • @tjejojyj
    @tjejojyj 3 года назад +13

    “We have the technology!” Yes. Yes we do.
    That’s the most positive IT review I have ever seen!

  • @BraddahSpliff
    @BraddahSpliff 3 года назад +78

    "...because if you don't, someone else will...especially since we made a video about it."
    Linus knowing his social value.

  • @exia7684
    @exia7684 3 года назад +306

    “You can’t drop things you cannot see!!”
    Linus: Are you challenging me?

  • @GamerSunrit
    @GamerSunrit 3 года назад +61

    TBH, this actually is a good concept, specially when that thunderbolt comes to the picture !

    • @IngwiePhoenix_nb
      @IngwiePhoenix_nb 3 года назад +4

      Slap a mid-tier GPU in it and it is a perfectly decent gaming rig. Nothing to boast about but it'll get you by with common games. And it should totally roast some emulation too so... honestly, I'd love this.

  • @rubuk2996
    @rubuk2996 3 года назад +5

    6:32 adding the full size Display Port is actually a huge plus. From experience, adapters get easily lost and having to use proprietary cables is not only unnecessary, but also more expensive.

    • @thekwoka4707
      @thekwoka4707 2 года назад +1

      But you don't lose adapters when you just leave it there....
      Or just get a USB-c to DP cable directly.

    • @rubuk2996
      @rubuk2996 2 года назад

      @@thekwoka4707 I would rather not have dongles sticking out from all our monitors all the time.

  • @anb1142
    @anb1142 3 года назад +794

    Plot twist: they didn't bring it to the market earlier because they thought Linus didn't do a video on it because it was too lame

    • @comradepeter87
      @comradepeter87 3 года назад +24

      I thought the same too lol

    • @JordannEdwards
      @JordannEdwards 3 года назад +7

      Not that far off, considering Linus has called out Dell in the past

    • @gamerdweebentertainment1616
      @gamerdweebentertainment1616 3 года назад +5

      What do you mean? Pretty sure my store was selling them...

    • @edwi890
      @edwi890 3 года назад +3

      Oh... The plot thickens...

    • @ArtemisKitty
      @ArtemisKitty 3 года назад +2

      @@JordannEdwards I wish he wouldn't sound so much like a marketing shill for them though - he's ignoring everything Dell has done with their business line laptops/pro systems in the past 2 years - since the 8th gen ones, you can no longer upgrade your CPU, RAM, even the WiFi cards are now soldered to the motherboards. I wouldn't trust them NOT to have done the exact same thing in this line. Until he (or someone) compares it with the current, 11th gen model, I absolutely DO NOT TRUST DELL on this one.
      Typed on my XPS13. (*grumble*)
      Edit: Even the SSD mounting area is non-standard, along with the retention clip. Want to install a different SSD? Get your dremel out... (not joking)

  • @BiigManGage
    @BiigManGage 3 года назад +873

    Where does Linus even find these computers?

    • @twystedgamer1174
      @twystedgamer1174 3 года назад +25

      He must keep a sharp eye on the market looking at anything new coming out.

    • @STORMFIRE07
      @STORMFIRE07 3 года назад +72

      He doesn’t really tho, maybe once in a while but most of these are either sent as a review unit to him to make a video on it, or paid sponsorships, or viewers and fans found something unique and recommended him to check it out

    • @twystedgamer1174
      @twystedgamer1174 3 года назад +2

      @@STORMFIRE07 yeah that makes more sense

    • @qwertyferix
      @qwertyferix 3 года назад +54

      In his warehouse during an inventory audit. Didn't you watch the video?
      😉

    • @genowoah
      @genowoah 3 года назад +1

      in the warehouse, but literally dell sent them lol

  • @wwlittlejOfficial
    @wwlittlejOfficial 3 года назад +151

    SOLD, I'm buying my parents one now!
    Edit: Linus is a marketing powerhouse, he literally is gonna be responsible for Dell selling a few thousand of these.

    • @spacetoast4874
      @spacetoast4874 3 года назад +6

      I want one now too

    • @spacetoast4874
      @spacetoast4874 3 года назад +1

      399.99 -1500.00$

    • @arahman56
      @arahman56 3 года назад +16

      A few thousand more "warranties", you mean.
      Unless you're a business buying business parts, I would either stay away from Dell, or buy refurbed Dell business machines.

    • @BraddahSpliff
      @BraddahSpliff 3 года назад +8

      @@arahman56 You do know those warranties are optional, right? You don't have to pay for them. Also, I don't know how it is elsewhere but, there is already a 1 year manufacturers limited warranty on most electronic products you buy in America. Buying protection programs & extended warranties are scams.

    • @wwlittlejOfficial
      @wwlittlejOfficial 3 года назад +2

      @@BraddahSpliff I wouldn't call them scams, I've saved two monitors and a few other electronics going the Squaretrade route, for an extra 3-4 years of protection.

  • @Flytrap
    @Flytrap 3 года назад +159

    Making a note in my diary: "Linus says something nice about Dell!"

    • @TheSergio1021
      @TheSergio1021 3 года назад +11

      And then immediately calls them out for crappy business practices lol

  • @creepercraft9986
    @creepercraft9986 3 года назад +54

    "August 2019" "almost 2 years ago"
    Damn that hurt

  • @anzonix
    @anzonix 3 года назад +181

    This DELL seems so much different than the one Steve from GM had his hands on recently.

    • @Kiyometa
      @Kiyometa 3 года назад +43

      Dell has some excellent engineers there. Considering some of their XPS laptops are some of the best out there, and that obviously had a laptop cooler on it, I'd bet they got one of their good engineers on it XD

    • @Potapes
      @Potapes 3 года назад +24

      But Linus is telling that in VIDEO!
      "Please Dell Bring this to your consumers too!"
      This one Dell is for retail. For managers buying computers into their company.
      That one Dell Steve bought is meant for consumers.

    • @toastynotes
      @toastynotes 3 года назад +24

      LTT ran into problems with Dell too during the mystery shopper series. You have to carefully look at your invoice/receipt after ordering from Dell to make sure they didn't scam you.

    • @stephen1r2
      @stephen1r2 3 года назад +9

      Business division: a bit less bullshit.

    • @vladomaimun
      @vladomaimun 3 года назад +28

      The difference between Dell's business grade and consumer grade hardware is stagerring

  • @x511100x
    @x511100x 3 года назад +200

    Honestly, I hope Dell made this for the sole purpose of mocking the Apple screen mount

    • @leonidas14775
      @leonidas14775 3 года назад +21

      *duct tapes raspberry pi to monitor stand* there!

    • @--2
      @--2 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, they specifically made a monitor stand with a tiny cheap computer inside that is supposed to be paired with a cheap monitor, *just* to mock Apple’s 1000$ stand, that is supposed to be pared with a 6000$ monitor and 5000 to 55000$ computer…

    • @mahir7h
      @mahir7h 3 года назад +2

      @@--2 except dell makes professional monitors like the UP3221Q that perform better than Apple's displays while having self-calibration on board and four times the dimming zones of Apple's pro XDR at $2K cheaper.

    • @--2
      @--2 3 года назад +1

      @@mahir7h, And is this stand that includes a cheap small computer, made for a 4000$ display? No! And ok you mention 2k cheaper, which means that you are talking about the more expensive model that includes the nano textures glass. So the XDR display goes up to 1600 nits of brightnes, while the dell only 1000, it’s 6k, not 4k like the dell, it supports Dolby Vision, it has smaller besels, one of the best viewing angles and it has like I mentioned before the nano texture glass. It also has all the other features that the dell has. Like HDR10, 10 bit color, 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio etc. etc.

    • @mahir7h
      @mahir7h 3 года назад +1

      @@--2 Dell has antireflective coating on the monitor as well.
      Regarding brightness: 1600 nits was a non-compliant gimmick that only works for a small area and all reference monitors stick to 1000 nits regardless of price range as that is what the standard calls for: as a colorist, you want consistency. The 1600 nit mode goes non linear beyond 1000 nits.
      As for viewing angles, I'll quotw the verge:
      And here’s Murilo, who’s been running post-production facilities for 16 years, including his previous gig working at the color shop that did Game of Thrones:
      Sadly, my biggest first impression was that the off-angle viewing was just incredibly inaccurate, even at the slightest angle. It’s so dramatic that when you’re standing right in front of it and looking at the display, there’s a vignette effect over the whole thing.
      Having worked a lot with the Sony X300s that Apple compared the displays to when they announced them, it was especially jarring to see how the Apple display stacked up to the Sony in real life. This is not a display that I would ever buy as a reference monitor for serious color work.
      As for resolution: you can only master content at the same resolution as the rest of the chain, the rest of the equipment will likely be limited to 4K.
      A possible use case for the stand would be to have a personal use computer that uses the same display in side-by-side mode or for switching between the personal use computer and the color grading computer on the airgapped production network

  • @Figureight
    @Figureight 3 года назад +154

    You know what I'd love to see? A more portable minded version of this. I hate using laptops because I hate fixed keyboard positions and want my screen to be height adjustable, as well as wanting something more modular and upgradeable. If they were able to have a small computer with a built in stand that folded, it could be a great setup for digital nomads that want more customizability in their portable setup than what a regular laptop can offer.

    • @TheBeardedQuack
      @TheBeardedQuack 3 года назад +26

      So you're going to carry around a computer, monitor, keyboard, mouse and stand?
      I'd stick with the laptop, or get a monitor/keyboard/mouse everywhere you'd want to go and dock the laptop/NUC.

    • @Figureight
      @Figureight 3 года назад +5

      @@TheBeardedQuack If there was a portable enough solution then yes, I'd do that. That's why I'd like to see what could be possible in this area. I have a custom built mech keyboard and mouse that I take with me as it is, as I'm willing to sacrifice some weight and bulk to use the gear I like. I don't see the point in trying to source overpriced parts in countries where parts are scarce, or getting inferior parts I have to settle on using for months if I could just bring the gear I like in the first place. If I was just on holiday and need a computer then sure it would just be laptop.
      Either way I just think that there should be more options out there for portable computer solutions for those that want a more complete or versatile setup than a laptop, but it's easier to travel with than SFFPC.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 года назад +3

      @@TheBeardedQuack You do know that there are a considerable number of people out there who moved between more than two places for their work?

    • @TheBeardedQuack
      @TheBeardedQuack 3 года назад +2

      @@tams805 I'm one of them, but I have a computer in each location. I know that's not practical for most people but there are a lot of different laptops to choose from to get a spec that helps you.

    • @TheBeardedQuack
      @TheBeardedQuack 3 года назад +10

      To clarify I'm not saying this is a bad idea. But if you're in a different location every day, chances are that setting up and tearing down a PC (even a lightweight and portable PC) probably gets old fast. Some of this is getting easier as slowly USB is becoming even more universal, but for now I feel the best solution is likely a laptop you're comfortable with, and a couple select peripherals to suit your workload.

  •  3 года назад +842

    But my question here is: can I install graphic board and CPU water cooling system on that?

    • @Steve-sz4bh
      @Steve-sz4bh 3 года назад +28

      Yes you can.

    • @MisoElEven
      @MisoElEven 3 года назад +31

      @@voltare2amstereo If laptops can cool gpus so well with warm batteries in their chassis, making a long PCB to include a GPU and some cooling probably isnt that hard for them. Could really be a great product especially if they somehow made the gpu modular but thats just a wet dream I guess..

    • @陳秉軒-c9b
      @陳秉軒-c9b 3 года назад +3

      I was like, that name looks super familiar, sounds like a piano channel name but this is a tech channel.....Holy smokes it's him!

    • @anggieseptiandewanto3781
      @anggieseptiandewanto3781 3 года назад +2

      Considering someone did water-cooling a Lattepanda which is smaller than this and installing GPU with PCIe to M.2 converter is quite simple, it is possible (but won't be easy with quite a bunch of alterations/modifications)

    • @xxx_ray
      @xxx_ray 3 года назад

      No

  • @ninjaz5736
    @ninjaz5736 3 года назад +171

    "because if you don't, someone else will... especially now that we've made a video about it"
    Ah yes, blackmail at its finest

    • @povy3000
      @povy3000 3 года назад +1

      lol

    • @fredwupkensoppel8949
      @fredwupkensoppel8949 3 года назад +11

      It's actually for a good purpose, sooo.. whitemail?

    • @Rainaman-
      @Rainaman- 3 года назад +5

      @@fredwupkensoppel8949 white male?

    • @fredwupkensoppel8949
      @fredwupkensoppel8949 3 года назад +1

      @@Rainaman- I recognize that you wanted to make a joke of some sort.

    • @Rainaman-
      @Rainaman- 3 года назад +3

      @@fredwupkensoppel8949 yeah didn't land

  • @AmeanAbdelfattah
    @AmeanAbdelfattah 3 года назад +52

    I used to be an IT guy for a company that has 3 floors of callers. This is very ideal for those users bc they have small desk spaces, they only use casual and basic applications, nothing serious. Plus they rotate every month so they don't ever take the computer or monitors. Its very simple.

    • @paladin677
      @paladin677 3 года назад +6

      I would think the best part would be if one failed for whatever reason, getting them back up and running would be a breeze assuming a few spares were available.

    • @wlpaul4
      @wlpaul4 3 года назад +4

      Right? I’ll take this over a micro from-factor Optiplex any day.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 3 года назад +3

      For 3 years leasing, yea, this modular AIO is good. But long term purchase, no then. This AIO only supports M.2 2230 form factor. Pain in the butt to find good replacements. Most M.2 drives with DRAM are in 2280 form factor.

    • @paladin677
      @paladin677 3 года назад +4

      @@fleurdewin7958 True, though if I'm buying Dell and don't have a replacement plan I have bigger issues lol.

  • @darek4488
    @darek4488 3 года назад +3

    It's amazing. A perfect PC for spreadsheets and E-Mail. Even for programming too.

  • @jabatheshort660
    @jabatheshort660 3 года назад +113

    What I learned in this video:
    ANTHONY HAD A USED COMPUTER SELLING WEBSITE??
    Bring it back I want to go shopping

    • @superskittlegaming7689
      @superskittlegaming7689 3 года назад +18

      It still exists lol. BoomIT is like the only real computer store that isnt a Best Buy in Newfoundland, I live like less than an hour away from it

    • @empath69
      @empath69 3 года назад +3

      @@superskittlegaming7689 Hell, if I go out on my back deck, I can see Coaker's Meadow plaza! I never knew Anthony worked there, and got a lot of early PC work done in the day...that was before they even were called 'BoomIT' yet, tho.

    • @boomIT709
      @boomIT709 3 года назад

      @@empath69 You might be thinking of the Computer House. Boom I.T. moved into that location about 15 years ago! Anthony was a superstar to work with!

  • @natemundt4752
    @natemundt4752 3 года назад +84

    Calling it now: LTT is gonna make a shirt saying "Linus Drop Tips" showing his face when he dropped the stand

  • @CrazyAzn55
    @CrazyAzn55 3 года назад +141

    Nice Flex Linus. "if you don't, you know someone else will, especially now that we've made a video about it"

    • @bigdaddynate8917
      @bigdaddynate8917 3 года назад

      exactly what i was gonna say

    • @gaslitgames
      @gaslitgames 3 года назад +21

      It was an optiflex

    • @superrswalkthrougn
      @superrswalkthrougn 3 года назад +8

      The gall of that statement lmao. Linus didn't even know he had the damn product until an inventory audit, AND THEN makes a video on it, and then flexes that someone else will make a similar product now that he made a video.
      No hate but imagine that level of success

  • @ShadowLinkxMaster
    @ShadowLinkxMaster 9 месяцев назад +1

    2:49 Was that Brandon who was saying “No no no no no nooooo!!” 😂 He’s so used to Linus dropping things by this point.

  • @triparadox.c
    @triparadox.c 3 года назад +354

    Next video: We just found out we've been paying Dell $20 every month since we bought this PC!

    • @joekenorer
      @joekenorer 3 года назад +11

      Underrated comment.

    • @RinnosukeETQW
      @RinnosukeETQW 3 года назад +18

      While the joke is funny, the business line isn't really pulling that kind of shit. Then again corporations tend to get the extended warranties and they do pay off.

    • @ALifeOfWine
      @ALifeOfWine 3 года назад +24

      @@RinnosukeETQW Did you not watch the pre-build competition where Dell charged LTT for thing's they specifically said they didn't want 5 times in a row?
      Or the recent Gamers Nexus video where they were charged for extras without their knowledge?
      Stay the hell away from Dell and their shady practices.

    • @powerdude_dk
      @powerdude_dk 3 года назад +2

      I kinda doubt it because they treat their business customers nicely compared to their private.

    • @powerdude_dk
      @powerdude_dk 3 года назад +7

      @@ALifeOfWine yes, we DID see that, but was secretly purchased consumer products, and NOT as a business.
      They treat their private customers like shit, and their business customers like gold.

  • @Channel-tg1rx
    @Channel-tg1rx 3 года назад +64

    I never knew that Anthony used to own BoomIT. I grew up just around the corner of the store and was going to buy my first gaming pc from them. That’s really cool!

    • @boomIT709
      @boomIT709 3 года назад +18

      Actually, Anthony was employee #003. (I don't think he'd mind us saying)
      Great guy who has continued to develop his amazing knowledge of the industry.
      Props as always to Linus, Anthony and crew from Newfoundland :)

  • @carlwolf5923
    @carlwolf5923 3 года назад +11

    My company got a few of these last year for our support team and I was AMAZED at how easy they were to work with.

  • @twistedtechnology
    @twistedtechnology 3 года назад +4

    We recently considered these for where I work but decided to stick with the Optiplex SFF and AIO's instead. Cool concept but the price for a similarly specced AIO was lower when you factor in the price of the PC module, the stand, the screen, speakers, and webcam all of which are included in the AIO.

  • @mukuldev5162
    @mukuldev5162 3 года назад +12

    This is something that i can actually see myself buying to be used as a family pc.

  • @chadwickmccarty4944
    @chadwickmccarty4944 3 года назад +21

    Even though this is sort of "old" tech now given the review this seems to be 1 of the better produced products by Dell. It's impressive for someone(s) that's got uses for it.

    • @jfwfreo
      @jfwfreo 3 года назад +4

      Its only this version that's old. There is a newer version that's got current hardware :)

  • @kumarsourav
    @kumarsourav 3 года назад +56

    I came expecting a drop test. wasn't disappointed!

  • @TheVirusWar
    @TheVirusWar 2 года назад

    I use these in the production plant I work at as an IT specialist. They're amazing for mass maintenance, and deployment. Also, Dell has got something called a Wyse client, which is a small computer that just receives a client machine's stream from the server, usually virtual clients. So you can have a shit-ton of clients on a server, from one place, and the Wyse's will just provide a picture. The management dashboard is great, and easy to setup and use.
    Its great for various check-in throughout the plant.
    Good little computers.

  • @primorock8141
    @primorock8141 3 года назад +22

    This is one of the coolest pieces of tech I've ever seen, well done Dell and Linus!

    • @Karrads
      @Karrads 3 года назад +3

      I deployed Intel NUCs in the past for small footprint setups. I saw these and decided to give the 7070 Ultra and decided to give it a shot. Super happy with them so far.

  • @yensteel
    @yensteel 3 года назад +28

    It's such a great concept! It's perfect for an office
    Suggestion: Best to always hide an employee behind the table whenever Linus is handling anything.

  • @2fast4u288
    @2fast4u288 3 года назад +74

    My soul literally left my body when that monitor ate the desk 👻

  • @xSKOOBSx
    @xSKOOBSx 3 года назад +1

    The NUC with a VESA mount is a wonderful solution, I helped someone put one together a few years ago as a present for their wife. Extremely clean setup and I could guide them on which components to buy and how to install easily. Amazing product. Not sure this is necessary when that exists and is most likely higher performance.

  • @themixgenius1993
    @themixgenius1993 3 года назад +35

    8:16 "If you don't, somebody will" - FlyingKitty

    • @lucaviner6631
      @lucaviner6631 3 года назад

      True

    • @PunxTV123
      @PunxTV123 3 года назад

      true, someone will use this idea, if this is before year 2000's where people hungry on tech like steve jobs and bill gates, this already copied. but right now only china can steal someones idea

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 3 года назад

      Are you sure it is not protected by some nasty patents?

  • @blocog6980
    @blocog6980 3 года назад +31

    “I dropped a whole pc that I could carry in one hand”

  • @marvil9205
    @marvil9205 3 года назад +19

    less than 3 minutes in and Linus dropped it already

  • @RobCarter04
    @RobCarter04 3 года назад +7

    "Especially now that we've made a video about it." Loving the clout flex. It's true though, the high opinions of this thing in the video could very well drive a bunch of new customers to these that otherwise never would have known about it. I believe Dell probably already has it's own consumer iMac competitor in the works, and launching these to the business segment is a way to get the design perfected and tooling paid for with the higher prices business customers are willing to pay.

  • @Adlerini
    @Adlerini 3 года назад +253

    "I don't know whats most shocking about this thing"
    "the fact that it's made by dell"
    LMAO

  • @dreamscape9295
    @dreamscape9295 3 года назад +4

    This is absolutely amazing and I wouldn't mind one for light work. This is a huge step forward and there's definitely a big market for this. It also made me check to see if there was a PC built into the Dell monitor I just got at a garage sale; I would've lost it if there was.

  • @xx1norm1xx
    @xx1norm1xx 3 года назад +14

    thats actually sick if i had the need for a simple browsing machine, id want one so bad.

  • @cieknie
    @cieknie 3 года назад +1

    Dell's consumer products and business solutions are basically separate companies that shares logo and part of distribution line. As far as I know (may not be true) - motherboards and components for Latitude and Vostro are made by Intel and Compal, and they are assembled by Dell itself in Ireland and Brasil, and (most) Inspirons are manufactured in China and Taiwan by subvendors and only supervised.

  • @Draco563
    @Draco563 3 года назад +7

    I love this concept, they could even develop a laptop case to use as a dock so you can take your pc wherever you want.

    • @Amynon1660
      @Amynon1660 3 года назад +1

      I could see that being a major thing. Companies wouldn't have to issue desktops AND laptops to their employees anymore, and employees would have a much easier time working from multiple locations. Not to mention the security risks and sheer cost of IT labor that it would cut down on.

    • @Draco563
      @Draco563 3 года назад

      @@Amynon1660 I would love for them to do so.

  • @yorn4286
    @yorn4286 3 года назад +160

    I almost got a heart attack when he dropped the whole monitor....

    • @chosebines51
      @chosebines51 3 года назад +8

      To be frank. I'm disappointed. That drop was a fake accident.... Were they promoting their desk mat's protection ? Linus simply forgot to plus a lttstore segway !

    • @Frizzy9000
      @Frizzy9000 3 года назад

      Yeah I honestly thought they either expected it to happen or tried to make it happen. Still funny though! We know Linus would absolutely do this on accident and not hide it so 😑

    • @DeepThinker193
      @DeepThinker193 3 года назад

      He's dropped far more expensive products

    • @yorn4286
      @yorn4286 3 года назад

      @@Frizzy9000 i know it was faked, I too have been watching this for years.

    • @yorn4286
      @yorn4286 3 года назад

      @@chosebines51 I know it was faked

  • @Graphics_Card
    @Graphics_Card 3 года назад +26

    Mom, can we get a gaming pc?
    Mom: but we have a gaming pc at home.
    *Gaming pc at home:*

  • @BBROPHOTO
    @BBROPHOTO 3 года назад

    This is absolutely KILLER for schools, labs, workshop environments... but for me personally, I’m an astrophotographer and I need a computer to control all the astronomy kit. Having something like this wall mounted in an observatory without a whole computer *would be* AWESOME.

  • @GreasyBirb
    @GreasyBirb 3 года назад +13

    Anthony looking trimmer than ever. Good job my man.

  • @ngwoo
    @ngwoo 3 года назад +22

    This thing is such a good idea, how'd it take so long and how did Dell of all companies end up being the one to do it?

    • @mreatcoco
      @mreatcoco 3 года назад

      It didnt take long? It is released in 2019 lol

  • @siddharthmishra4446
    @siddharthmishra4446 3 года назад +31

    Linus is so good at dropping things that he can do it without even looking.😁

  • @EvilDeadFan11
    @EvilDeadFan11 2 года назад

    I've deployed these at work. They're actually pretty nice for office workers. People have regained shelves back where their old Optiplex towers used to sit.

  • @alrick3000
    @alrick3000 3 года назад +19

    What Linus said: ".. super easy!"
    What I heard: ".. super easy.. barely an inconvenience!"

  • @acertainghost286
    @acertainghost286 3 года назад +13

    Not something I would want in my home, but at work it would be fantastic.

  • @baseplate_462
    @baseplate_462 3 года назад +6

    i like how at the end linus sounds like a concerned parent talking to dell.

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 3 года назад +1

    The perfect streaming pc for a minimalist desk setup. People couldn’t even tell.

  • @IsaacPresents
    @IsaacPresents 3 года назад +41

    When you buy a good stand, and it winds up that you have a back up pc in it. 😂

    • @center4nerds
      @center4nerds 3 года назад +8

      Our you could use one pc as prod and the other one to test development work without having to run a buggy VM and all you would need to do is switch the input on the monitor...

    • @IngwiePhoenix_nb
      @IngwiePhoenix_nb 3 года назад

      @@center4nerds Literally my thought.

  • @kevinsalmador739
    @kevinsalmador739 3 года назад +34

    "Especially when now we have done sa video about it"
    Woah, that's lots of confidence 😏

  • @qwerty74
    @qwerty74 3 года назад +58

    I'd imagine this was the idea of a Dell manager snoozing off during one of the quarterly meetings and waking up to an executive asking him "So, Bob... What are you working on for this quarter?".

  • @pirojfmifhghek566
    @pirojfmifhghek566 3 года назад +61

    Dell: "Let's make something with an incredibly small footprint that puts Apple to shame for its affordability and ease of repair... and then neglect to bring it to the consumer market."
    Seriously, what the fuck are you doing Dell.

  • @dinobot28
    @dinobot28 3 года назад +22

    When linus finally retires, colton should be there telling linus he's fired..

  • @VladiSSius
    @VladiSSius 3 года назад +8

    8:05 no Linus, no company wants to give consumers even a single choice. CONSOOM AND OBEY!

  • @beanstalker3292
    @beanstalker3292 3 года назад +15

    Dell: That's why we want you to review the damn thing so we can market it to consumer, but you lost it in your warehous....

  • @tsmith906
    @tsmith906 2 года назад

    You could make a water cooling loop with shut off valves to close the loop and act as the clips you line up to snap the pc container into place to connect the loop again and mechanically unblock flow so you can easily protect the line from leaking water or pressure. You dont need a reservoir in that tiny space either so long as the line was pressure filled to a fraction of 1 psi so all you would need in the pc case is a cheap turbine engine using miniscule power instead of a pump, the cpu heatsink, and the water line to connect it all. The stand could be hollowed out with a fan on each end flowing bottom to top. You could feed the loop into a series of aluminum fins like you see on good cpu coolers but hollow and water flowing through the flat fin creating a whole lot more surface area so more water molecules are im contact with the aluminum than in a cylindrical line. You could even possibly use lots and lots of the smallest lines possible before cappilary action occurs and orient them in a lattice and basically design the loop through the wind tunnel as series after series after series of thick strand mesh stacked ontop of one another utilizing as much volume of the wind tunnel as possible and by making the line as small as physics will allow water to still flow through your forcing the most possible watet molecules to directly contact the aluminum dissipating alot more heat from the water and the mesh like design layout of the loop would siphon away the heat right out the top. Then and right out the top of the stand. If that radiator methodolgy proved effective then you could even then consider a waterblock enclosure for just like they make currently for GPUs but make its slightly bigger to make it an eGPU and connect it to the loop as well. so it could be the size of a single slot card by width with no use for airflow to the gpu. Certianly small enough to contemplate methodology to mount it somewhere on the stand with the power, data and water loop connections in the mount so it all connects automatically upon snapping it into the mount just like the other one.you may even be able to connect the egpu to the pc package via pcie lanes if you can connect the extender wires through the chassis of the stand to both data plugins into the enclosures when clipped in their mounts.

  • @Kamaleont
    @Kamaleont 3 года назад +4

    This would be awesome for reception's desks....I will probably verify with the company I work in if they can get this as a standard ;) Thanks Linus!

  • @mrsansiverius2083
    @mrsansiverius2083 3 года назад +11

    When a monitor stand is a more expensive PC than your own PC...

  • @sidharthgkumar4029
    @sidharthgkumar4029 3 года назад +12

    While looking at apple's mind bogglingly expensive "stand" I knew this will be coming.

  • @robk5969
    @robk5969 3 года назад

    my uni has dell AIO computers everywhere, in the last year or so, they replaced all of them with a newer version of the exact same computer,
    only visible difference on the outside is one of the USBA ports was replaced with a USB C port.
    that would be the ideal use for this computer, the IT team can go through and remove all the old modules, drop in the new ones, instant upgrade without wasting all the other parts

  • @christianduplantier8725
    @christianduplantier8725 3 года назад +4

    Literally the perfect PC for my grandmother!

  • @Asynonymous
    @Asynonymous 3 года назад +26

    My favorite part of LTT videos is that little joke tagline on the title card. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Whoever writes those should be given a raise.

  • @Xmvw2X
    @Xmvw2X 3 года назад +4

    Wow, I wish I knew about these. I just bought a bunch of NUCs for work, and this is super cool.
    Um, yeah, why is this not a mainstream thing? Dell needs to think a bigger market space for this idea. Heck, with the external GPU, this is actually a good argument for even some gaming rigs, and more mobile ones at that.

  • @jgeekw
    @jgeekw 3 года назад

    We bought the 7090 Ultra model for our business. So far I'm not too enthused about them. Users experience slow load times, slow performance, and lagging keyboard inputs. I contacted Dell for a replacement due to an issues where once the PC restarts, it no longer posts and has to be hard shutdown. Even the replacement model locked up after downloading and installing Windows updates. Not sure if it is due to the mechanical drive we opted for, or the single stick of DDR4 RAM, but they are overheating I think.

  • @underbedmonstersmusic
    @underbedmonstersmusic 3 года назад +41

    I'm holding my imaginary graphics card.

  • @patatislekker145
    @patatislekker145 3 года назад +5

    The pc even comes with a feature that makes it easier for Linus to drop it!

  • @those.two_guysthatplaygame5779
    @those.two_guysthatplaygame5779 3 года назад +57

    That’s an odd looking pc there Linus, looks kind of like a monitor stand

  • @Djaakie
    @Djaakie 3 года назад

    Years ago we we were amazed by quickswap drives. just think that you could take a whole all PC the size a bit bigger than your phone with you as a quickswap device. how sick!

  • @Noggles10
    @Noggles10 3 года назад +28

    “Outdated”. It’s not like much has changed for Intel since 6th Gen anyway..

    • @TheIrishAlchemist205
      @TheIrishAlchemist205 3 года назад +3

      Even then, for cramming all that in there, that's impressive!

    • @neodidi
      @neodidi 3 года назад +1

      Oh I thought same too... I mean, this is my exact config, but for a laptop.

    • @bullshitdepartment
      @bullshitdepartment 3 года назад

      4th gen. Running an i7 4770...lol

    • @yes.1012
      @yes.1012 3 года назад

      But the 10400f and 11400f currently destroys the R5 3600 in price to performance (being ATLEAST 30 usd cheaper). You need to catch up man lol

  • @martinpalenik
    @martinpalenik 3 года назад +10

    So after years of my younger kids calling the Monitor the Computer, and me correcting them.... They are now right!

    • @freedblowfish3705
      @freedblowfish3705 3 года назад +2

      No, the monitor stand is the computer, the monitor is still the monitor unless you have an aio pc, then they would be right

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 3 года назад +1

      I used to think that a desktop computer was just a TV set with a keyboard and mouse, which somehow allowed it to do all the things a laptop could.
      Specifically, the original iMac's rounded casing looks as if it was shaped to contain a cathode-ray tube, so that's what led me to think it was just a TV...