Bro thank you. In a world where everyone is saying Diablo is burning, I find you Making build for necro that I play. Thanks for staying f positive! Got my like and sub.
@@iRunShibb much appreciated, I only get to play about 2 hours a night. You simplify the builds and do all the leg work which means more time playing and less time guessing!
The issue with hellbent commander, it doesn't work with Mendeln. Mendeln is based off the characters stats, and does nothing with minion boosts because Mendeln is you giving your minions a base atk of 10k+, and letting them use all your stats with the only penalty being up to a 10% lucky hit chance. Ontop of that, Cult leader is still broken, so any points added outside of health or armor is useless. All damage nodes either don't work, or apply 30% of the advertised boost.
That’s false, completely. Kripp tested all the nodes and they are all working as intended. Drybear also did the testing with the same conclusion. They both have a working and efficient minion build without Mendeln.
Lovely build, thank you for providing the planner. Can you please let us know what stats we're supposed to prioritize? Maybe put it in notes in the planner?
Great showcase, but we really need a d4planner or mobalytics link to the build; if you want to recommend people try it for S1 they need an established sheet to work from rather than constantly referencing a video.
I have been running a pretty similar build since I reached lv 70 on my pre-season Necro. I used the golem instead of bone storm. I get my constant shield from the temerity unique instead, and it pairs really well with the corpse tendrils passive that gives 30% chance of a blood orbs per enemy caught, which now fill your shield when you’re full hp that lasts 8 seconds. It basically makes your hp pretty much 170-180% of its original max value all the time. Sure, you do lose some good defensive stats from well-rolled chest pieces, but I guess it is worth it considering the defense nerfs post-patch. One more thing. I am like 90% sure the bone prison aspect is not a bug. I can still proc it all the time without the aspect on, with enough lucky hit chances and a lucky hit applier like corpse explosion or blight. Since the aspect makes it such that bone prison spawns directly with an applier, it seems like a bug, but you get the same exact effect with a normal blight or corpse explosion inside a bone prison with a large number of mobs. It is simply because these skills inherently have very high lucky hit chance of 59% each. So even if it is a bug, rest assured, the combo itself is so good it will proc crazy lucky hits anyway because the entire build revolves around it. Hope this helps fellow summoners :)
Love your videos and always preferred a minion build,. biggest issue I had before was that Bone Spear was just so much more powerful that at level 50 I went bone spear. Now that I have Mendeln and the recent buffs to minions, albeit not much of a buff, this inspires me to try again, thanks!
The only problem is this is the ring of mendeln build and not a minion build. I love minions but relying on a bug in the game to give you 90% of the damage is scary as what if they change it so bone prison does not give us a 100% proc on mendeln? Its just, I feel like we should have had a huge buff to minions across the board and not have to rely on a bug to do this kind of damage with minions.
If we can run an analogy with the Barbarian, they squashed the bug to the Hammer of the Ancients aspect providing way more damage than intended, and didn't compensate for the massive decrease in overall power of the build. We can infer two possible futures from that: 1/ Ring of Mendeln interacting that way with Bone Prison is working as intended and there is nothing to fear. 2/ Ring of Mendeln interacting that way with Bone Prison is a bug that they missed (can't see how they would have missed it because it is well-known) and the build will be gutted entirely.
Great video using this while leveling its a bit slower that other specs but still works. Wish you would have put the stats for the gear on the build page though so we all wouldn't have to keep going back and forth 100s of times to see what stats for what piece lol.
@@iRunShibb yeah thats the one im talking about, would love to see a minion/dot focused build that runs those 2 hearts, and maybe the creeping one, cus you have so many different types of cc aswell, will deff keep an eye out on where you land cus my thoughtprocess is along the same lines
what do you think about adding "Aspect of decay"(each time the shadowblight key passive deals dmg to enemies, it increases the next shadowblight's damage within 10 seconds by 20%x, stacking up to 5 times.) to this build?
I've been looking for a good Necro build...and then I heard the new patch was nerfing everyone ( though nobody as hard as the Sorc ) so happy to find this. When I think Necromancer in fantasy I think guy that raises armies of the dead, and good luck fighting them because your dead will rise on his side...bone skills are ok, but not what I think when I think Necro. So a build that lets me use that fantasy effectively is a gift
@@iRunShibb I do that. Not only do I open the ring chests, I of course also try the Mystery chests. To top that off, I use the Obols on rings, and choose rings on the tree when I can. With my luck when I do get one, it will probably have terrible rolls.
Ok brother you have the malignant heart that decrepifies and then skill decrepify. Is there an interaction I am missing here can you double decrepify something? Or you mainly keeping decrepify on your bar for solo bosses? TY again for your build
When will we see the build for season 1 live since i think there will be changes to your build in the video? :) Waiting for it. Reached level 62 with ease and looking now how to properly boost minion damage using new hearts
I have a question if anyone could answer: In his video his off hand is "Conceited Enigma Cube" and he says it drops down south in Kehjistan, east of Gea Kul. When I go there and kill the rare npc, on WT3, where he says it drops from, it drops "Qin's Captivating Eye". It is a rare focus that has the 3 same stats as the Conceited Enigma Cube that he has and is shown in the video @15:32. I know the "conceited" part of it is the aspect, but the "Enigma Cube" is the item itself...am I missing something? Was the Enigma Cube changed into Qin's Captivating Eye at some point after he made the video...or are they two separate items completely but with the same exact stats? Any info would be helpful lol, thank you!
First time playing necro in S1, I was barb at launch. can you give some insight on what stats we should be looking for on gear when running a build like this?
@Irunshibb maybe I need to watch more of the video but don't you have too many active abilities in your skill tree?? I see 8 at least with Decompose, Blight, Corpse Explosion, Blood Mist, Bone Prison, Decrepify, Corpse Tendrils and Bone Storm as well as you'll need Raise Skeleton and maybe Golem on your bar.. that's way too many for a 6 slot bar. Can you elaborate or do I need to just clam up and watch the whole video? :)
The 1st 3 are not on his bar. Blood mist will pop corpses with the right aspect or hear eqiped. Decomp is only to get the the 2nd set blight is only for the passive thats applied in bone prison with the aspect. Golem is sacrificed.
have you tested shielding storm vs disobedience? its better? i will also replace inner calm and conceited aspect with ultimate shadow and aspect of the void, for the rest generally we have the same idea
This is pretty similar to my build but i dont use blood mist i have corose explosion, minion attack speed is important faster they attack more lucky hits. The 3 points in closer to minions 30% minion damage is wasted mendeln is your damage not minion damage as far as im aware, and decrep hasn't been buffed is always been 40/20 at base level.
I don't know if you're aware but later on in the video you even say buffing minion damage is pointless like giving them the 30% extra damage but you've done that on your skill tree.
This is such a fun build to play im currently leveling with this and i saw you added the builder guide. Any chance you can add the stat priorties to your guide?
Hello, I watched your necromancer summon video and I have 2 questions Could you send me (since I sent you a message on discord) the summon necromancer builds for uber lilith based on sampler points "Legendary skills and glyphs"? Is this build exclusively for killing uber lilith and not for nightmare or farm dungeons right? Why didn't you put the glyphs that empower skeleton warriors and mages on the paragon table?
I hate the ring of mendeln! My necro is level 85 and I'm farming the crap out of NM dungeon / helltide chests and NEVER got the damn thing! I changed to a bone spear build because Minions are so weak at NM tier 50+. Is the ring one of those "uber unique" ?
Will work up a web page build guide after this weekend (fiance's birthday and release and such ive been slammed). I want to go through it again to optimize it more
what about conceited offensive aspect (deal x increased damage while you have a barrier active) vs the aspect you have on your wand? the percentages are higher, and you aren't having to stay still to get the damage. You should almost always have barrier up while using bone storm anyway.
i want to run a minion build so bad, but the clear speed is so horrendous.... minions have always been my favorite in every game, but i hate being so slow lol
@@Luan-OIiveira yeah this was more and endgame build guide. For leveling you can use shadowmander and book through stuff. This is just how I want my build at the end!
My problem with my minion builds was the skeletons just can't stay alive in bigger fights, especially elites and bosses that have fire damage under their feet or poison pools all over the floor
Instead of nerfing everything into the dirt this was a great opportunity to create viable alternate endgame builds for each class....this season pass and the greed attached to it are hurting gaming
same and I have the sneaking suspicion that there was some kind of nerf to the drop rate as of today because not even normal or sacred is dropping off of her...might just be an rng thing though
I got lucky and got it from one of the world boss drops, from Avarice at about level 90 or so. I just recommend running different content from time to time.... helltides, legion events, world bosses and nm dungeons.
@@iRunShibb Unfortunately you can't target unique drops now from helltide chests... and there is a bug with the drop rate of cinders. I have given up on running helltides till they fix it.
Is darkness damage the same as shadow. Reason I ask is my chest peice has 24% increase darkness damage and I use shadow damage is this the same. Thanks for content
I have questions about the rotation.... I'm trying to make this work with my season one character but I'm not sure how it comes together without using Corpse explosion as a part of the loadout. Can anyone dumb it down for me and explain to me how this works?
@@iRunShibb I completely forgot that one of the ones I got before did that. Do you have the build on the regular website that you use? I would like to see the paragon boards since you went thru the build so fast. Also, since someone asked for you to post the build on another website, mobalytics and d4builds are a couple good sites that I have been using.
Thing is... Mendeln NEVER drops.. didnt drop entire pre-season and havent dropped IN season yet either... so making a build around mendeln is furiously aggravating
dunno if u were living in a cavern till yesterday or something, but this build has nothing to do with minions...is just another mendeln build where your damage comes from YOU and YOURS modifiers to make damage with mendeln passive and using minions as vectors to unleash that damage....your minion are doing no damage at all, all the damage is mendeln, u don't have buffs for minion damage or attack speed for them, all your glyphs have nothing to do with yours skeletons mages, warriors and golem....as everybody knows by now, mendeln uses the character stats and modifiers to enhance the damage written in the description, your minions are doing like between 1000-6000 damages per hit(wich are the tiny damages displayed) as we can see from the gameplay footage and the extraordinary proc of mendeln had nothing to do with the plunging darkness aspect in the prison, but is a known bug with the ghastly bone prison perk where it procs lucky hit constantly just adding the vulnerable status at the enemies inside multiple times per second per enemy inside the prison...it works perfectly without the plunging darkness aspect and with low lucky hit chance bonus. when we talk about MINION build, i want to see warriors/mages/golmes paragon boards and glyphs and the damage actually coming from my minions not another mendeln build wich exist from the release of the game, nothing new here, just another clickbait
@@iRunShibb I love the idea of this build and I been trying to make it work for season 1 but I keep running into issues with Bone Prison. I play with a controller in combat and a keyboard and mouse in town. Bone Prison is a @#$% to put down with a controller. No matter how well you aim it, half the time it ends up around me. I'm going back to my bone spear for now till I get more points to spend and some better gear but I can't run Bone Prison with a controller.
Pretty sure that 75% damage draining essence heart deactivates if you have 0 essence. Sadly that means you have to run a generator and if you have to run one then you lose another skill which in the end probably isn’t worth it.z
Just FYI, you’ve got several things that are in accurate that you need to be aware of. The main thing is the ring crocs have nothing to do with minions whatsoever other than they trigger it. The actual explosion is purely based on your stats not your minions. So anything that increases dominion damage does not increase the explosion damage, anything that increases minion critical strike chance doesn’t increase the explosion critical strike chance because it’s based on your critical strike chance or your critical strike damage. Again the minions only deliver the explosion none of their stats actually scales the explosion.
Yes this is exactly as I describe in the video. Also, There is no such thing as minion crit strike chance . Hence why is at buff your stats and not theirs.. there is nothing in accurate here
@@iRunShibb loI was digging this video last night changing my stuff around and heard you say specifically it's your damage that matters. Good video gonna test this out today...only issue was the respec and getting all the gear right was like 25 million, fck that was a grind!
This build seen really cool love try and play with it but don’t think I will because what look like it seen be heavy depend on a unique and I’m not a fan of that
This patch isn’t out yet for the new season they made these changes to the past world called “Eternal” prior to release…. Also my job is streaming. This is one strange comment
Minion?...ohh you mean DOT. As long as Minion Boards are broken, they can't pull aggro and the Golem wasting a slot on the bar, it still falls short of what i would call a "Minion Build" though im glad that People still fight with Blizzard to make it happen
@@iRunShibb i figured and im propably gonna give this a try, now that they finally fixed the cloud but....my last necro went till 91 and i never found that damn ring so ...pray for me
@@Jimbozinya yes and you saw the video? Cause the season 1 launched tomorrow not today... So he is playing with current eternal realm version... Is not that hard to use the brain cells mate...
I appreciate all the headache you went through to give us a build that will probably be good enough in season 1 for us to enjoy the class but regardless, you shouldn't have to waste that many time building a class trying to dodge all the shit to make it semi strong, EVER! Especially for casual players who do not have any time AT ALL. The majority of the player base didn't even reach lvl 100 and now when they are logging in, after a hard days work, not only do they feel weaker they are gaining way less xp for some reason. They are now also forced to play season 1 because if they do not they will have no ''buff'' through malignant hearts but only the nerfs from the patch. And guess what? if they were not able to reach lvl 100 before the season they will never ever be able to do it on the season. Well, for the few players remaining anyway... For me, and the majority of players/streamers, this patch was their only saving grace and oh boy they gave us a big F you. I'll wait for the camp fire to see what they are planning to do about this and I think that this campfire will make or break the game for the majority of the players base. Casual players just want to have a good time playing a game and relaxing while the hardcore wants to have big rewards for their time and Blizzard is giving neither.
Hellbent commander dont increase mendeln dmg. so you can remove that. So better to increase the minion attack speed to get blighted aspect faster and fortify, or more movement speed with darkness. And the The great feast gem is bad since it increases the minion dmg by 75%. If you sacrifice the bonus applies to you it says. So that gem is horrible for mendeln. and this build is rly bad for just daily play and speeds. its only worth 85+ nm dungeons and lilith
The build is good, but not a perfect. I switch from dark magick to bone spear with minions and its gorgeous!!! Reason is Butcher... Minions are very stupid and i cant tell them to fully attack to Butcher. My bone prison he just switching off, without cooldown - ring of Mendeln dont work... As a mine hero, you need atleast one attack, and this is bone spear!
@@potaragiz there is 2 aspects one gives +2 skeletons and another gives +2 mages but he's got the mage aspect on his amulet giving + 3 mages so in total he has 6 skeletons and 6 mages.
build video and no build planner, hello? I have watched your videos before so I know you are not a new youtube creator you have know how it looks to make a video with no planner. I can tell you put a lot of hard work into this video which I appreciate but it is for not without a planner.
I feel like there is still the problem of them being one shot and having no corpses to bring them all up…. Which is always the biggest flaws of minion builds. Bosses and big single target. I’m far from being a hot shot D4 player so, I’m probably missing something
The ultimate should be army of the dead. This also raises them up and buffs them big time, aspect to go with it. This video is far from the best minion build
I have minion health on 3-4 pieces and it makes minions unkillable, especially with the buff to skel priests. Please do not listen to shady, attack speed on minions is absolutely NOT the play for endgame. I have plenty of corpses on the ground on every fight due to reapers and the passive corpse drop. Youll see even uber lilith with her "one shot" abilities cannot take down my minions in these clips and my past clips.
@@iRunShibb thank you for your answer, you might make me wanna try season 1 haha that’s an incredible feat! Honestly the only time I would consider AS for minions is to proc more lucky hit chance if I go hybrid with summons. But pure damage yeah AS ain’t the way.
Does he realize that when the season come in 1 day that this build probably won’t even be a thing, this is a good build for the eternal realm but not the season realm
Why make a build for a new season that requires a unique item that most people either never see, or they do not see it until over level 90? Myself, I have not one but two necros (one is minion, the other bone spear) at level 85 and have never seen a single drop of the ring, and I have done enough high rank nightmare dungeons that I have leveled multiple glyphs (5 on one char alone) to level 15. Although minions are playable even in T35+ (where I am at), it is extremely slow and frustrating without the unique ring. The bottom line is that IMO you are far better off playing bone spear or another build up to level 100, then consider minions IF you get the ring. That is unless you don't mind the slow play you will have without the ring at high levels. The developers have done a terrible job with this recent patch, and they fixed nothing. I don't care how many channels they PAY to promote the garbage.
swap golem for blood mist. And i mention this is an end game build. IMO leveling builds should just be something you find fun and engaging during the leveling process. I never make leveling builds, because I believe it takes from the fun.
@@iRunShibb No desire to play the necro as a general caster really because that is what my sorcerer is for. There is no excuse for the garbage Blizzard did. They are without a doubt the most incompetent developers to exist.
It's clickbait every creator to have a title like this for 95% of peop!e to click the video. Just the way life has become some will watch anyway but the majority won't unless it's sensationalised.
This is a weak build. You are wrong when you say "dont use aspects to increase minion damage" you literally centered your abilities around your minions, not your necro. You ahould use a 2 handed weapon and put the increase minion damage on it. Watch your attack power blow up past your pathetic 16k. Also, vulnerable ia still better than shadow, and your ultimate should be army of the dead along with the related aspect.
I centered it around lucky hit proc. I dont want to come off harsh but the vast majority of this comment is incorrect. The low damage ticks you see are all just damage procs for me to proc lucky hit and blow up mendeln. Which scales off damage as I describe, hence why I am able to hit 9+ mil per minion.. As of right now meldeln proc is much better off our damage and not minion. One strict minion builds with army of the dead you do VERY little damage. Minion attack power and attack speed are NOT the stats you want right now at all (hopefully that will change) but they are not viable in the end game. And I can say that with confidence because I started with that build, and through testing, switched to this build. No disrespect brother, but ALL - Please do not listen to this comment
Bro thank you. In a world where everyone is saying Diablo is burning, I find you Making build for necro that I play. Thanks for staying f positive! Got my like and sub.
Great build. Please give us a build sheet and a shot of the paragon boards? :(
done and done baby
Thanks!
Hey thanks so much man, means a lot it’s helping people out and the time is worth it
@@iRunShibb much appreciated, I only get to play about 2 hours a night. You simplify the builds and do all the leg work which means more time playing and less time guessing!
that 6.66k sub level currently is appropriate for D4 vids. nice work.
The issue with hellbent commander, it doesn't work with Mendeln. Mendeln is based off the characters stats, and does nothing with minion boosts because Mendeln is you giving your minions a base atk of 10k+, and letting them use all your stats with the only penalty being up to a 10% lucky hit chance.
Ontop of that, Cult leader is still broken, so any points added outside of health or armor is useless. All damage nodes either don't work, or apply 30% of the advertised boost.
That’s false, completely. Kripp tested all the nodes and they are all working as intended. Drybear also did the testing with the same conclusion. They both have a working and efficient minion build without Mendeln.
appreciate the build info. was struggling to find a good necro build and i just finished the Lilith fight with this build. TY
Lovely build, thank you for providing the planner. Can you please let us know what stats we're supposed to prioritize? Maybe put it in notes in the planner?
YES CAN YOU PLEASE ADD SUGGESTED STATS FOR GEAR ON BUILD PLEAS AND THANK YOU
Thank you so much! Can't wait to start the season with your build recommendations.
Please update the stat priorities on each item slot!
I loved minons from the start. This just sparked my passion even more.
LETS GO
Great showcase, but we really need a d4planner or mobalytics link to the build; if you want to recommend people try it for S1 they need an established sheet to work from rather than constantly referencing a video.
I have been running a pretty similar build since I reached lv 70 on my pre-season Necro. I used the golem instead of bone storm. I get my constant shield from the temerity unique instead, and it pairs really well with the corpse tendrils passive that gives 30% chance of a blood orbs per enemy caught, which now fill your shield when you’re full hp that lasts 8 seconds. It basically makes your hp pretty much 170-180% of its original max value all the time. Sure, you do lose some good defensive stats from well-rolled chest pieces, but I guess it is worth it considering the defense nerfs post-patch.
One more thing. I am like 90% sure the bone prison aspect is not a bug. I can still proc it all the time without the aspect on, with enough lucky hit chances and a lucky hit applier like corpse explosion or blight. Since the aspect makes it such that bone prison spawns directly with an applier, it seems like a bug, but you get the same exact effect with a normal blight or corpse explosion inside a bone prison with a large number of mobs. It is simply because these skills inherently have very high lucky hit chance of 59% each. So even if it is a bug, rest assured, the combo itself is so good it will proc crazy lucky hits anyway because the entire build revolves around it. Hope this helps fellow summoners :)
Was gonna run another Barb for S1 but have been leaning towards Necro with every video I see
I’m the exact same! Lol
Love your videos and always preferred a minion build,. biggest issue I had before was that Bone Spear was just so much more powerful that at level 50 I went bone spear. Now that I have Mendeln and the recent buffs to minions, albeit not much of a buff, this inspires me to try again, thanks!
The only problem is this is the ring of mendeln build and not a minion build. I love minions but relying on a bug in the game to give you 90% of the damage is scary as what if they change it so bone prison does not give us a 100% proc on mendeln? Its just, I feel like we should have had a huge buff to minions across the board and not have to rely on a bug to do this kind of damage with minions.
Very true , showing OP builds based on bugs will end up hurting the builds that don't use the bugs but use some of the same gear.
I thought the devs patch that bone prison bug that proc lucky hit. Or they didn't get to do that yet?
If we can run an analogy with the Barbarian, they squashed the bug to the Hammer of the Ancients aspect providing way more damage than intended, and didn't compensate for the massive decrease in overall power of the build. We can infer two possible futures from that:
1/ Ring of Mendeln interacting that way with Bone Prison is working as intended and there is nothing to fear.
2/ Ring of Mendeln interacting that way with Bone Prison is a bug that they missed (can't see how they would have missed it because it is well-known) and the build will be gutted entirely.
Like Druid's Bulwark lol.
@@1wesshadow they are suppose to talk about it on the campfire today
I don't have mendeln but I have a death speakers pendant so I'm making a bloodsurge overpower minion build.
Decrepify has always been 40% the buff to slow was on decompose
Truth! My fault, good callout
Great video using this while leveling its a bit slower that other specs but still works. Wish you would have put the stats for the gear on the build page though so we all wouldn't have to keep going back and forth 100s of times to see what stats for what piece lol.
Give us link to build please :)
think that heart with the essence drain reduction one could be dope, maybe ice mages for essence aswell, should bring uptime way up
couldnt agree more, there is also a heart that reduces essence drain by half. I think they could synergize like crazy.
@@iRunShibb yeah thats the one im talking about, would love to see a minion/dot focused build that runs those 2 hearts, and maybe the creeping one, cus you have so many different types of cc aswell, will deff keep an eye out on where you land cus my thoughtprocess is along the same lines
what do you think about adding "Aspect of decay"(each time the shadowblight key passive deals dmg to enemies, it increases the next shadowblight's damage within 10 seconds by 20%x, stacking up to 5 times.) to this build?
Hell ya. Good video
Have you found black river unique yet and if so would u use?
Is there going to be a paragon build video? Love the necro content!!!!!!
Can you drop a d4 planner on this bad boy build?
done and done bb
I've been looking for a good Necro build...and then I heard the new patch was nerfing everyone ( though nobody as hard as the Sorc ) so happy to find this. When I think Necromancer in fantasy I think guy that raises armies of the dead, and good luck fighting them because your dead will rise on his side...bone skills are ok, but not what I think when I think Necro. So a build that lets me use that fantasy effectively is a gift
Couldn’t agree more with you brother
Don't play a minion build because the ring rarely drops, and it is about 1/2 the speed/dps of other necro builds.
@@WyMustIGo legit go to helltides and open ring chests for a day. Everyone in my chat was able to get one with that strat. It’s annoying but it works
@@iRunShibb I do that. Not only do I open the ring chests, I of course also try the Mystery chests. To top that off, I use the Obols on rings, and choose rings on the tree when I can.
With my luck when I do get one, it will probably have terrible rolls.
@@WyMustIGo obols can’t get you uniques I don’t believe. Much love brother I believe this season you’ll get it
Ok brother you have the malignant heart that decrepifies and then skill decrepify. Is there an interaction I am missing here can you double decrepify something? Or you mainly keeping decrepify on your bar for solo bosses? TY again for your build
When will we see the build for season 1 live since i think there will be changes to your build in the video? :) Waiting for it. Reached level 62 with ease and looking now how to properly boost minion damage using new hearts
Corpse explosion/minion builds are among the only one that benefit from the standing still aspect
I have a question if anyone could answer: In his video his off hand is "Conceited Enigma Cube" and he says it drops down south in Kehjistan, east of Gea Kul. When I go there and kill the rare npc, on WT3, where he says it drops from, it drops "Qin's Captivating Eye". It is a rare focus that has the 3 same stats as the Conceited Enigma Cube that he has and is shown in the video @15:32. I know the "conceited" part of it is the aspect, but the "Enigma Cube" is the item itself...am I missing something? Was the Enigma Cube changed into Qin's Captivating Eye at some point after he made the video...or are they two separate items completely but with the same exact stats? Any info would be helpful lol, thank you!
You get the eye then when you add an aspect to it it will change to the cube
Please make a maxroll guide for this. Trying to run it in season and trying to scan through your video is gonna be rough everytime. Please please
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First time playing necro in S1, I was barb at launch. can you give some insight on what stats we should be looking for on gear when running a build like this?
@Irunshibb maybe I need to watch more of the video but don't you have too many active abilities in your skill tree?? I see 8 at least with Decompose, Blight, Corpse Explosion, Blood Mist, Bone Prison, Decrepify, Corpse Tendrils and Bone Storm as well as you'll need Raise Skeleton and maybe Golem on your bar.. that's way too many for a 6 slot bar. Can you elaborate or do I need to just clam up and watch the whole video? :)
The 1st 3 are not on his bar. Blood mist will pop corpses with the right aspect or hear eqiped. Decomp is only to get the the 2nd set blight is only for the passive thats applied in bone prison with the aspect. Golem is sacrificed.
Great video. Like your enthusiasm
Is there a link for the build sheet? Paragon etc? I want to try this
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have you tested shielding storm vs disobedience? its better?
i will also replace inner calm and conceited aspect with ultimate shadow and aspect of the void, for the rest generally we have the same idea
I have tried disobedience. I like shielding more. They recently nerfed disobedience as well. Also shielding allows for damage while shielded!
@@iRunShibb and Lucky Hit chance while you have a Barrier, which before the patch only dropped for Sorc. 😍
This is pretty similar to my build but i dont use blood mist i have corose explosion, minion attack speed is important faster they attack more lucky hits. The 3 points in closer to minions 30% minion damage is wasted mendeln is your damage not minion damage as far as im aware, and decrep hasn't been buffed is always been 40/20 at base level.
I don't know if you're aware but later on in the video you even say buffing minion damage is pointless like giving them the 30% extra damage but you've done that on your skill tree.
can you show us a more about ur paragon board sir?
This is such a fun build to play im currently leveling with this and i saw you added the builder guide. Any chance you can add the stat priorties to your guide?
Thank you! Necro minion is the reason I bought this game
Hello, I watched your necromancer summon video and I have 2 questions
Could you send me (since I sent you a message on discord) the summon necromancer builds for uber lilith based on sampler points "Legendary skills and glyphs"?
Is this build exclusively for killing uber lilith and not for nightmare or farm dungeons right?
Why didn't you put the glyphs that empower skeleton warriors and mages on the paragon table?
responded on disc.
I hate the ring of mendeln! My necro is level 85 and I'm farming the crap out of NM dungeon / helltide chests and NEVER got the damn thing! I changed to a bone spear build because Minions are so weak at NM tier 50+. Is the ring one of those "uber unique" ?
What about that free tendril every second malignant ?
do you have a leveling build for this?
Great Vid, do you have the build online anywhere? (Pref D4 Builds)
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@@iRunShibb Legend, thank you very much
have you a complete paragon board? it would be nice
Will work up a web page build guide after this weekend (fiance's birthday and release and such ive been slammed). I want to go through it again to optimize it more
what about conceited offensive aspect (deal x increased damage while you have a barrier active) vs the aspect you have on your wand? the percentages are higher, and you aren't having to stay still to get the damage. You should almost always have barrier up while using bone storm anyway.
Nevermind, I guess the total bonus for the aspect you use is higher (25% vs 30%)
also I posted this comment before actually watching the whole video because I'm an idiot.
Can see the beginning of your paragon board
can you show full Paragon
How do we scale minion damage? Weapon base damage, increase attack damage/speed.. do these work on minions?
Weapon base damage and physical damage as far as I'm aware.
You have to factor in lucky hit chance tho if you're using ring of mendeln
i want to run a minion build so bad, but the clear speed is so horrendous.... minions have always been my favorite in every game, but i hate being so slow lol
necro is always slow, just look for movement speed on necklace and boots and move speed from shadow damage passive. best we can do!
@@iRunShibb He meant clear speed, it does take longer to kill each pack of mobs. But I do think it's a good trade off
@@Luan-OIiveira yeah this was more and endgame build guide. For leveling you can use shadowmander and book through stuff. This is just how I want my build at the end!
Do you have a shot of the paragon boards?
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My problem with my minion builds was the skeletons just can't stay alive in bigger fights, especially elites and bosses that have fire damage under their feet or poison pools all over the floor
few pieces with minion health on it and they wont fall
quick question, when casting bone prison, am i supposed to stay inside or outside the prison?
either, close is good for damage while close though so sometimes it may be worth going in and blood misting
Planner link?
That is still sad that summoner necro doesn't exist without Ring of Mendeln. I can't drop it. I tried build without it... and it's a pain in the ass.
Instead of nerfing everything into the dirt this was a great opportunity to create viable alternate endgame builds for each class....this season pass and the greed attached to it are hurting gaming
I'm struggling to get Qin's captivating eye to drop as ancestral... I'm on world tier 4 at level 77 and only seem to get sacred and rare. Any advice?
same and I have the sneaking suspicion that there was some kind of nerf to the drop rate as of today because not even normal or sacred is dropping off of her...might just be an rng thing though
Minions wont be on my radar till I get that stupid ring. Still haven't gotten it and probably wont in season 1 too
run helltide, non stop ring chests.
I got lucky and got it from one of the world boss drops, from Avarice at about level 90 or so. I just recommend running different content from time to time.... helltides, legion events, world bosses and nm dungeons.
@@iRunShibb Unfortunately you can't target unique drops now from helltide chests... and there is a bug with the drop rate of cinders. I have given up on running helltides till they fix it.
Is darkness damage the same as shadow. Reason I ask is my chest peice has 24% increase darkness damage and I use shadow damage is this the same. Thanks for content
darkness skills use shadow dmg so yes
I have questions about the rotation.... I'm trying to make this work with my season one character but I'm not sure how it comes together without using Corpse explosion as a part of the loadout. Can anyone dumb it down for me and explain to me how this works?
Blood mist will pop the corpses and there's a heart that will also use corps skills such as corpse explosion
Can't get that woman to drop the focus in the southern expanse! Lol
Are you sure that the cube is from Qin? She usually drops Qin's Captivating Eye.
Add an aspect it’ll change the look
@@iRunShibb I completely forgot that one of the ones I got before did that. Do you have the build on the regular website that you use? I would like to see the paragon boards since you went thru the build so fast. Also, since someone asked for you to post the build on another website, mobalytics and d4builds are a couple good sites that I have been using.
is there anyway we can get a build link? I dont care what site its on
done! descriptions
Thing is... Mendeln NEVER drops.. didnt drop entire pre-season and havent dropped IN season yet either... so making a build around mendeln is furiously aggravating
Hey, I was going to ask--where can I find your build at?
Ill work on a webpage for it after this weekend! ill post in description
dunno if u were living in a cavern till yesterday or something, but this build has nothing to do with minions...is just another mendeln build where your damage comes from YOU and YOURS modifiers to make damage with mendeln passive and using minions as vectors to unleash that damage....your minion are doing no damage at all, all the damage is mendeln, u don't have buffs for minion damage or attack speed for them, all your glyphs have nothing to do with yours skeletons mages, warriors and golem....as everybody knows by now, mendeln uses the character stats and modifiers to enhance the damage written in the description, your minions are doing like between 1000-6000 damages per hit(wich are the tiny damages displayed) as we can see from the gameplay footage and the extraordinary proc of mendeln had nothing to do with the plunging darkness aspect in the prison, but is a known bug with the ghastly bone prison perk where it procs lucky hit constantly just adding the vulnerable status at the enemies inside multiple times per second per enemy inside the prison...it works perfectly without the plunging darkness aspect and with low lucky hit chance bonus. when we talk about MINION build, i want to see warriors/mages/golmes paragon boards and glyphs and the damage actually coming from my minions not another mendeln build wich exist from the release of the game, nothing new here, just another clickbait
Not sure if that focus still drops.. farmed here for 2 hours and only got some lame Qin's Eye off and on
that is the focus, add a leg aspect to it and your set.
@@iRunShibb I love the idea of this build and I been trying to make it work for season 1 but I keep running into issues with Bone Prison. I play with a controller in combat and a keyboard and mouse in town. Bone Prison is a @#$% to put down with a controller. No matter how well you aim it, half the time it ends up around me. I'm going back to my bone spear for now till I get more points to spend and some better gear but I can't run Bone Prison with a controller.
Are there going be an written version of this one or one to use while leveling
Yeah gotta work it up after this weekend been slammed trying to redo paragon to be as optimal as I can
that blighted ring is fucking insane, holy fuck
It's not that great it has fortify generation which is pretty much a wasted stat, it's the aspect that good which you can get on any offensive gear
Less than 24 hours until season one. A lot of time into the game so far. Still no ring of mendeln. Let's hope S1 RNG goes a little better for me.
Pretty sure that 75% damage draining essence heart deactivates if you have 0 essence. Sadly that means you have to run a generator and if you have to run one then you lose another skill which in the end probably isn’t worth it.z
ice mages give essence back every attack, will be worth a test
lvl 100 necro and still NO mendeln ..... i hate blizz so much
only open ring chests 24/7 in helltide. best way to get ring.
Now I can farm a lv 80 one for you're next Necro that can't be power leveled.... yay?
So what you are saying is that ring is truly...unique.
I got 4 rings… watch I’ll get zero now
How high of a nmd do you think this can do ?
I could clear an 100 with a good roll, would have to play like a giant wuss, but it could do it
Of the new ones probably not very high 😅😅
Gj, pro tip thou speak don't shout XD
Just FYI, you’ve got several things that are in accurate that you need to be aware of. The main thing is the ring crocs have nothing to do with minions whatsoever other than they trigger it. The actual explosion is purely based on your stats not your minions. So anything that increases dominion damage does not increase the explosion damage, anything that increases minion critical strike chance doesn’t increase the explosion critical strike chance because it’s based on your critical strike chance or your critical strike damage. Again the minions only deliver the explosion none of their stats actually scales the explosion.
Yes this is exactly as I describe in the video. Also, There is no such thing as minion crit strike chance . Hence why is at buff your stats and not theirs.. there is nothing in accurate here
@@iRunShibb loI was digging this video last night changing my stuff around and heard you say specifically it's your damage that matters. Good video gonna test this out today...only issue was the respec and getting all the gear right was like 25 million, fck that was a grind!
Hi bro, Could you pass me the paragon so I can put it in my necro
Assuming this is pre 1.1 patch??
This is based on me testing it post the patch yesterday. These clips are post changes
surely bone prison bug with ring of mend wont get patched surely it wont
if it does, id just swap for golem taunt. I have so much lucky hit it procs very frequently from storm and mist. Either way im cool with it
and where is the link for the build?
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brother show the paragon more clearly))) thank you very much
This build seen really cool love try and play with it but don’t think I will because what look like it seen be heavy depend on a unique and I’m not a fan of that
How do you already have a level 100 character? Are you using an old character? Have you touched any grass lately?
This patch isn’t out yet for the new season they made these changes to the past world called “Eternal” prior to release…. Also my job is streaming. This is one strange comment
Minion?...ohh you mean DOT. As long as Minion Boards are broken, they can't pull aggro and the Golem wasting a slot on the bar, it still falls short of what i would call a "Minion Build" though im glad that People still fight with Blizzard to make it happen
The dot actually does very little damage. It’s just use as proc chsnve for lucky hit so the minions hit mendeln procs!
@@iRunShibb i figured and im propably gonna give this a try, now that they finally fixed the cloud but....my last necro went till 91 and i never found that damn ring so ...pray for me
@@WalterWhite-jz7ct hit helltide ring chests non stop brother. Good luck
@@iRunShibb that never works for me ^^. Are you going to update the Guide?
This build is for season one or for the current eternal realm?
Did you read the title of the video?
@@Jimbozinya yes and you saw the video? Cause the season 1 launched tomorrow not today... So he is playing with current eternal realm version... Is not that hard to use the brain cells mate...
Still no build link?
done now, was my girls b day was busy
I appreciate all the headache you went through to give us a build that will probably be good enough in season 1 for us to enjoy the class but regardless, you shouldn't have to waste that many time building a class trying to dodge all the shit to make it semi strong, EVER! Especially for casual players who do not have any time AT ALL. The majority of the player base didn't even reach lvl 100 and now when they are logging in, after a hard days work, not only do they feel weaker they are gaining way less xp for some reason. They are now also forced to play season 1 because if they do not they will have no ''buff'' through malignant hearts but only the nerfs from the patch. And guess what? if they were not able to reach lvl 100 before the season they will never ever be able to do it on the season. Well, for the few players remaining anyway... For me, and the majority of players/streamers, this patch was their only saving grace and oh boy they gave us a big F you. I'll wait for the camp fire to see what they are planning to do about this and I think that this campfire will make or break the game for the majority of the players base. Casual players just want to have a good time playing a game and relaxing while the hardcore wants to have big rewards for their time and Blizzard is giving neither.
Hellbent commander dont increase mendeln dmg. so you can remove that. So better to increase the minion attack speed to get blighted aspect faster and fortify, or more movement speed with darkness. And the The great feast gem is bad since it increases the minion dmg by 75%. If you sacrifice the bonus applies to you it says. So that gem is horrible for mendeln. and this build is rly bad for just daily play and speeds. its only worth 85+ nm dungeons and lilith
yeah let me just get a ring of mendelyn day 1
yeah it said end game.
The build is good, but not a perfect. I switch from dark magick to bone spear with minions and its gorgeous!!! Reason is Butcher... Minions are very stupid and i cant tell them to fully attack to Butcher. My bone prison he just switching off, without cooldown - ring of Mendeln dont work... As a mine hero, you need atleast one attack, and this is bone spear!
how did he made his MAGES LIKE 6!?!
Put the +2 aspect on your amulet, amulets give +50% so you get 3 instead of 2.
@@mattsmith5421 but he has like a total of 12 minions? how to do that?
@@potaragiz there is 2 aspects one gives +2 skeletons and another gives +2 mages but he's got the mage aspect on his amulet giving + 3 mages so in total he has 6 skeletons and 6 mages.
@@mattsmith5421 ohhh there's mages... Hope i can have that 😂
build video and no build planner, hello? I have watched your videos before so I know you are not a new youtube creator you have know how it looks to make a video with no planner. I can tell you put a lot of hard work into this video which I appreciate but it is for not without a planner.
yeah man did you read the description lol. I said give me a few days it was my girls b day. Its up now.
@iRunShibb no I did not. My apologies
one...hundred...million...damages!
I feel like there is still the problem of them being one shot and having no corpses to bring them all up…. Which is always the biggest flaws of minion builds. Bosses and big single target. I’m far from being a hot shot D4 player so, I’m probably missing something
The ultimate should be army of the dead. This also raises them up and buffs them big time, aspect to go with it. This video is far from the best minion build
I have minion health on 3-4 pieces and it makes minions unkillable, especially with the buff to skel priests. Please do not listen to shady, attack speed on minions is absolutely NOT the play for endgame. I have plenty of corpses on the ground on every fight due to reapers and the passive corpse drop. Youll see even uber lilith with her "one shot" abilities cannot take down my minions in these clips and my past clips.
My man, once again, please stop commenting this. we can talk on stream but you are spreading vast misinformation
You can't one shot a minion, the biggest problems are poison and stuff like electric lance where the minions just stand there being drained.
@@iRunShibb thank you for your answer, you might make me wanna try season 1 haha that’s an incredible feat!
Honestly the only time I would consider AS for minions is to proc more lucky hit chance if I go hybrid with summons. But pure damage yeah AS ain’t the way.
W build
Does he realize that when the season come in 1 day that this build probably won’t even be a thing, this is a good build for the eternal realm but not the season realm
Why make a build for a new season that requires a unique item that most people either never see, or they do not see it until over level 90? Myself, I have not one but two necros (one is minion, the other bone spear) at level 85 and have never seen a single drop of the ring, and I have done enough high rank nightmare dungeons that I have leveled multiple glyphs (5 on one char alone) to level 15. Although minions are playable even in T35+ (where I am at), it is extremely slow and frustrating without the unique ring. The bottom line is that IMO you are far better off playing bone spear or another build up to level 100, then consider minions IF you get the ring. That is unless you don't mind the slow play you will have without the ring at high levels.
The developers have done a terrible job with this recent patch, and they fixed nothing. I don't care how many channels they PAY to promote the garbage.
PS: This isn't a minion build without the golem.
swap golem for blood mist. And i mention this is an end game build. IMO leveling builds should just be something you find fun and engaging during the leveling process. I never make leveling builds, because I believe it takes from the fun.
@@iRunShibb No desire to play the necro as a general caster really because that is what my sorcerer is for. There is no excuse for the garbage Blizzard did. They are without a doubt the most incompetent developers to exist.
season 1 hasnt started yet, so how do you know people are discovering the ultimate necromancer build?
It's clickbait every creator to have a title like this for 95% of peop!e to click the video. Just the way life has become some will watch anyway but the majority won't unless it's sensationalised.
bro, video is good, but i feel like you're yelling.
This is a weak build. You are wrong when you say "dont use aspects to increase minion damage" you literally centered your abilities around your minions, not your necro. You ahould use a 2 handed weapon and put the increase minion damage on it. Watch your attack power blow up past your pathetic 16k. Also, vulnerable ia still better than shadow, and your ultimate should be army of the dead along with the related aspect.
I centered it around lucky hit proc. I dont want to come off harsh but the vast majority of this comment is incorrect. The low damage ticks you see are all just damage procs for me to proc lucky hit and blow up mendeln. Which scales off damage as I describe, hence why I am able to hit 9+ mil per minion.. As of right now meldeln proc is much better off our damage and not minion. One strict minion builds with army of the dead you do VERY little damage. Minion attack power and attack speed are NOT the stats you want right now at all (hopefully that will change) but they are not viable in the end game. And I can say that with confidence because I started with that build, and through testing, switched to this build.
No disrespect brother, but ALL - Please do not listen to this comment
Not a true minion build without golem.