You just knew all the characters would survive. There is no tension, no real stakes. The whole show is “nah, it will be fine” over and over and over again
Of course they can't die. This is a PREQUEL!! We know they don't die. They are NEVER in any jeopardy at all. I mean...extras can die, but who cares. By their very definition, they don't matter. And that only leaves the characters Amazon cooked up from mythril & woke-juice, and pulled clean out ' their arses! And we REALLY don't care about them! Not even a little bit!! Besides... Amazon does not have the sheer balls to kill off their r own creations. They may want to be like a Game of Thrones...but they don't have the stones for it.
Ooof, when these vandals made Galadriel say "... and my husband, Celeborn" I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. (before they trailed their "never saw him again" future "what a twist" moment)
Mithril now heals mallorn leaves and what woke Durin's bane wasn't the dwarves digging too deeply and too greedily, but because a dwarf threw a leaf in a hole... 🤦🏻
This show started as a 3/10 for me, then dropped to a 2. This episode made me so angry it’s now a 1. They have 1 episode left, so we will see if I rate it a 0 next week. Such a bad show in every way
When you bought up the "themes" of Lord of the Rings (not being about infidelity) I thought about how one of the strongest themes in the books is that of friendship and alliance. Yes, friendship is magic. While Tolkien despised allegory, no doubt the power of alliance and deep friendship is in the psyche of all of us in the Western world. And that's one of the big problems with the show.... In the Rings of Power there are no real, strong, binding friendships or alliances; everyone is a lone wolf type character. Yes, there are attempts at making characters close friends but they are meager. They even troll their own attempts by having harfoots left behind. It's a cold, lonely world. The power of love is weak with this one and it's partly why it's so unwatchable.
@@ErikKain That's kind of what I was thinking. Like everything else in the series it goes against the lore. They are putting culpability on the elves when it was the dwarves greed that awoke the Balrog. It's a little thing though.
I only made it through this episode knowing your review of it would be coming. Thank you for putting into words so precisely all of what is frustrating about what should be such an amazing show.
You do understand that they HAD to release Bear-ack the Horse so that he will be able to find and rescue Isildur. You dont think they would let that scene with Aragord and Hasufel, from LotR, go unstolen do you???
@@k-matsu Imho, that made the scene so much more boring and unneeded. As soon as I saw the horse, the scar made sure I knew it was Isildur's (not a bad thing, though). And as soon as the horse was shown to be restless, I knew they'd free it and that it'll return to Isildur, of course. Which is just... lazy.
They stole the Beren-Luthien meeting and gave it to Galadriel and Celeborn; the part about her dancing in a glade of flowers and him finding her there. Man, can they stop doing this please!
And that scene was personally dear to Tolkien (who had the names Beren and Luthien placed on his and Edith's grave): in Roos in 1917, in a grove of flowering hemlock, Edith began to dance and sing for Tolkien. On her death, JRRT wrote to Christopher, "In those days her hair was raven, her skin clear, her eyes brighter than you have seen them, and she could sing - and _dance_ ." To lift that incident from JRRT's life and work just for some lines of dialogue and a mild joke is impertinent arrogance, and disrespect of the lowest order. And I do not use superlatives lightly.
Next episode will Isildur A: go on a solo adventure that's more interesting than any scene he's been in previously. Or B: just kind of wander to the garrison next episode and meet his dad after at least two fakeouts with a dead body that looks like his.
I doubt Celeborn is dead, but heck, no one mentioned him even once until this idiotic episode. There was zero indication that he even existed in the show at all. I get the idea that she might not want to talk about something so painful but NO ONE, not even her bestie Elrond implied the existence of Celeborn. I want this show to die a fiery death. Destroy it. Cast it into the fire. Throw the writers in too, while you’re at it
I mean she talked about her brother as main source of her anger since the start. So it's not even believable. Also elves do not die so she can see them both in Valinor, but apparently writers do not know...
@@marisbury exactly. Sad thing is, the writers really think they’re being clever with this stuff. I wrote better fantasy when I was a teenager and believe me, my writing was pretty darn awful back then.
I gave up on the show after witnessing the worst sword fight in cinematic history on ep. 5 Looking forward for your Forbes review as well, Erik. Keep up the good work!
Oh gods, are they setting up the turn to evil, the rise to power of Sauron, the Dark Lord himself, because he is spurned in a love triangle... They are, aren't they. Incidentally, the Dark Souls bonfire and music at the end is feeling very appropriate now, like each episode is us trekking out to get our backsides kicked again lol
you know "berreck" is gonna go and magically find isildur in the ruins of the house and help him back, aka brego and aragorn. its like poetry it rhymes
Gotta love the fact that the writers wanted to create tension by showing Theo looking for his possibly dead mother but the marketing team ruined it: they published stills from the episode, before the episode's release, one of which showed Bronwyn with Galadriel, both without a single scratch.
Love how Bronwyn left the village without looking for her kid. I assume a mother would stay until she found him or confirmed his death. But no, she's cool. Arondir is hot, so...
The Mithril storyline is handled in such a contrived way that the waking of the Balrog is a non-moment. If people with no actual life experience write a fantasy story, its driving force will be melodrama and not story drama. There’s that one scene in Jackson’s trilogy where Faramir drags Frodo and Sam hundreds of miles away from their road to Osgiliath only so Faramir can have his change of heart and free them once again. I hated that scene, not just for the melodramatic back and forth, give and takeaway and give again, that it carries, but because it significantly altered the strength of Faramir’s character and was a huge departure from the story. Faramir’s character is so strong that the power of the Ring held far less sway over him than it did Boromir or even Denethor. There was no need for Faramir’s arc - he was already tested and proven, and so the “redemption of Faramir” subplot was entirely superfluous. The Hobbit trilogy (kill me) was also full of this sort of shit. This is the best The Rings of Power can conjure. By the time we finally saw the Balrog my strongest feeling was joy that the episode was over. And this is how they woke the Balrog? Not that they delved too deeply and too greedily, but that they sealed up the mine and dropped a leaf on him. I can’t even with these writers.
Even Denethor gets a worse press than he deserves in Jackson's TROTK. He was a noble and tragic figure. But Jackson's movies are looking better every day, by comparison with ROP's mess!
Yes, Faramir's episode was first, based on the misguided formula that heroes must not be too heroic, and have a 'character arc'. So we spent an episode just getting Faramir to where he should have been in the first place (and did not even seal the deal by putting the twice-spoken 'Not if I found it on the highway would I take it' into his mouth). And second (which Jackson should have realized since it wasn't in the book), it accomplished nothing at all, and ends where it began. It was incident for the sake of incident, like Aragorn doing the Indiana Jones off the cliff (complete with John Rhys-Davies mourning him!).
Thank the Valor that you have the stomach to watch this so I do not have to. I gave up after episode two. Appreciate your sacrifice. I will miss your take on this when we are finally released from this torture.
"Auta i lóme!" and "Aurë entuluva!" On September 3rd, the Tolkien phandom awoke and found half of the Tolkien-verse under the dominion of the corporate machine theyocracy. Thus we bring "council in these dark times,": EXSURGE TOLKIEN, our current channel's counter series. It is now beyond a doubt that The Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power" is independent of Tolkien and his world's Orthodoxy. ROP a schism that will leave a forever rift between the phandom and wrought confusion for years to come.
With this being one of the final two episodes, I thought all our suffering would be rewarded. I was wrong. They have only doubled down on their terrible writing. I only watch it now to make fun of it.
the harfoots can't just be happy happy Tolkien hobbits, though, because of Scriptwriting 101 which requires conflict in EVERY scene otherwise the scene gets cut. the writers inject conflict into the harfoot sequences via their inhumane, indefensible tradition of abandoning the sick and injured to die. it doesn't seem to bother them that this makes the harfoots abhorrent, but then, it doesn't seem to bother them that injecting conflict into Galadriel's scenes by making her ridiculously combative and argumentative (and later genocidal) also makes her deeply unpleasant and unsympathetic.
Another stupid conflict they injected into the Harfoots is having to lug those giant carts around all over the place, even though they are seemingly only using them to haul clumps of grass and moss and cute leaves to stick in their hair. Lmao.
@@johns1625 There are no draft animals in the Amazoniverse Middle-earth (e.g., to haul Disa's new table across Eriador). And, it appears, there are also no horses until they are brought from Westernesse. Are they doing this on purpose for some reason, or are they just not thinking? Neither one would surprise me at this point.
The text at the end switched Southland's to Mordor. The writing is so corny that I fully expect the damn horse to go rescue whatshisface. They continuously have "danger" with no danger.. nobody dies and anyone hurt heals quickly.. so theirs one more episode at the pace their going , no conflict is going to be solved which means more mystery boxes followed by a sorry excuse of a cliff hanger...so excited.....
hopefully we get a mindless 10 minute stretch of just watching the Balrog murder dwarves and the show ending because mindless arcade game is the best we can hope for
Things I learned from Episode 7: 1. Mithril heals black rot. 2. Leaves awaken Balrogs. 3. Pyroclastic flow (clouds of fire and red hot ash) doesn't always kill. 4. "Celeborn was his name" so he's dead, so Arwen won't be born.
LOOOOL, like the leaf awakening the balrog has to be the fucking dumbest thing theyve done, and every episode has been soooo dumb, so when they're mining and they're getting tremors, that big cave the balrog is in, I'm sure rocks are falling all around it
Elves do not die, they go to Mandos yeah So Galadriel jumping from Valinor ship basically prevented her from seeing husband AND brother again. Both of them in Mandos.
i had a sudden terrible epipheny earlier this week, around the "evil fire is cold" trope. were they going to pretend that Mount Doom's pyroclastic flow was "evil", and hence not at the usual 1500 degrees Fahrenheit? i haven't watched the episode, but maybe this is their "in game" justification for nobody being vaporized. if so i'm intrigued to learn how they think Mount Doom's "evil", "cold" fire is subsequently capable of melting the One Ring. also, if the fire/magma is cold, it wouldn't explode into steam on contact with water, but again, i'm probably overthinking something which the writers underthought.
You forgot when Durin I throws the rock down the well and wakes the legions of goblins like a fool Took ... he throws the leaf in the mithril chasm and it floats to the bottom where the Balrog will eventually be killed by Gandalf. So, the dwarves didn’t wake the Balrog by mining too deep - the chasm was already there. It was that meanie Durin I littering.
@@mikem9001 It's also an attempt to just have him thematically out of the picture so their main female character is not saddled to a man and has "agency" and "independence". It's so transparent and ham-fisted.
Yeah. Celeborn didn't do much in the Third Age but everyone who knows anything about the lore knows he has to be there. The funny thing is that despite the fact that they clearly took Celeborn out of the picture so Galadriel isn't "baggaged" by a husband, she already had far more agency than Celeborn anyway. She is the one with the greater power (who refuses to use it) and is the one given the ring. Celeborn is important to the lore but doesn't do that much beyond being Galadriel's husband and Celebrian's father.
I don't think Celeborn is dead. Galadriel says that she never saw him again. I suspect they are going to spring his intro as she's getting cozy with with Halbrand as a "gotcha" moment to create tension. Why is this show so bad? Facepalm
Makes sense. I'd disappear and pretend I was dead too if I was married to Galadriel for all of eternity. Also, now that all the anti-Hobbits food is burnt up I can't wait to see them go all Donner party and start cannibalizing each other. "Nobody dines alone!"
Anyone else noticing the complete lack of involvement/presence regarding the enemy? Literally Adar appeared 3 mins before the end of the episode lol plus we got a glimpse of those pointed corrupted elven folk fookin up nature lol. What nonsense! *The stakes just ain't high for me*
Thanks for the frank analysis. At this point I don't care about spoilers, the show sucks so bad. Killing off Celeborn? Yikes. There's an old saying when you find yourself in a hole stop digging yet Amazon and the show runners just keep digging this hole deeper and deeper to the ruin of us all.
They'll probably gonna play the Galadriel and Sauron had a kid and have that love triangle with Celeborn once he is re-embodied or something. And I'm guessing Galadriel and Sauron, i mean Halbrand gonna pass thru Moria and she will fight the balrog herself. Oh god this show.
This episode had me convinced that Disa is Sauron. The way she was talking to Durin implied very subtle manipulation and ambition. I'm sure they'll pull that out of a hat, as I have zero hope in this show making any sense (forget the lore which was cast into the Void) after basically everyone survived the volcano's pyroclastic flow. Yeah, sure. I can hear Celeborn from Lothlorien where he's hiding from Galadriel currently (due to her petty arrogant attitude here) saying now: "Tell me, where is Galadriel, for I much desire to speak with her." May Eru deliver us from the catastrophe that is this show.
Literally everything that happens, every moment of gravitas is unearned. Nothing in the show is earned. No character development, and almost no chain of events. And the entire Southlands is a single village of 100 people? How did they ever imagine we'd find this epic?
I personally like how the Rings of Power have yet to play any goddamn role in the show called Rings of Power. We remember how in LOTR, the _very goddamn first thing_ you saw was the one ring. And then you saw the _lord of the rings._ Not only that (because that's a bit superficial, even if cool), everything else was driven by the ring, and in extension the lord of the ring. Here? Ehhh... No. There's a difference between one "Hobbits like to party, whooo!"-111th-birthday scene and the neverending boringness that are the harfoots.
Yeah pretty much. I think most everyone seeing that line will think "we know he's not dead, they'll drag him back out at a contrived opportunity, but now they can do whatever they want with Galadriel without the baggage of a husband"
@@jrconway3 Nevermind the fact that its been a couple THOUSAND YEARS since the War of Wrath in the 1st Age. You'd think he would turn up at some point and word would get out... Nope, we just have to force Galadrial and Halbrand/Sauron into boning because thats the spiciest thing these writers can think of
I like your take Celeborn must be alive somewhere I don’t think they would kill him off when he is in PJ’s movie. If they did though just another really bad mistake on their end.
I mean, is it not clear that Celeborn is still alive? Like, do y’all not understand he’s still alive, he’s alive in the third age, he’s in Lord of the Rings. They didn’t kill off Celeborn. They just confirmed Celeborn will be in the show.
Its plot contrivance for Galadriel to do whatever they want her to do without the baggage of a husband, then they can pull him out of thin air to get us back to the LOTR trilogy. I do think the end goal is that they don't contradict LOTR and The Hobbit. Everything else prior to that can be made up and they just don't care.
It seems that all Amazon have created is another soap opera complete with all the modern day politics and social attitudes that go with it! With every episode they move further and further away from anything that Tolkein would have written. It really is garbage!
Imagine if Galadriel actually dies then she returns some time later being ressurected by the Maiars or something (be creative) it might not be canon but since Galadriel is the wisest of them all ...maybe went trough something similar like Gandalf. It's a fantasy world. It might fit inside the 1st/2nd age (i have no idea about the lore) ...i mean thats some interesting idea here at least..
shes not Maiar and the "glow" she has in the LOTR Trilogy was always supposed to be there. So since she looks like an average person here, she always will. She doesnt possess any powers other than being an insufferable twat
Oddly liked this episode more because the characters seemed more believable and 3D. Galadriel was better, and Theo grew a bit. But the plot… yikes. Mithril, Celeborn, and Blind Miriel. They just straight up lied about maintaining fidelity.
If Celeborn is dead, then he is in the Halls of Waiting (I forget the official name) awaiting reincarnation like Galadriel's beother. Death is not permanent to an elf.
Yeah, but I can somewhat understand that elves in Middle-Earth may not know this. Death was a new concept to elves after they went To Middle-Earth, and elves being revived is also based on their deeds in Middle-Earth. Not all elves get revived, and its possible to argue the elves might not be aware that the elves who die in Middle-Earth return to Valinor (at least not yet). That's the ONLY way Galadriel's revenge arc can he justified. If she knew her brother was just resurrected in Valinor, her entire motivation falls apart. Gandalf is the one who says death is just the beginning, and after death he will see the white shores of Valinor (at least in PJ's trilogy). He would know this, being a Maiar, but he also already died once and got sent back.
@@jrconway3 Death was not a new concept except in the Amazoniverse. On the Great Journey, they could see animals fading and dying, and some Elves were assuredly killed. Galadriel's statement that they had no word for death is an Amazon lie ('PHIR' and 'NGUR' were two proto-Eldarin roots for death). The idea that people in Valinor had no idea of who Mandos was and what became of Elvish souls is preposterous: and a good chunk of Tolkien's writing on the subject of the fate of the souls of Men and Elves is a dialogue between a mortal woman and… Finrod! But in the Amazoniverse, the souls of the Quendi can 'fade to nothingness' without the light of the Silmarils or something equally nonsensical. So, zero out of ten for Amazon for agreement with JRRT's writing. Gandalf's explanation to Pippin is completely out of synch with JRRT's extensive writings on the subject and should be ignored. Like Payne/McKay, in this case Jackson either wholly misunderstood, or chose to ignore, the books. What happens to the souls of Men after death is unknown, even to the Valar. It must be taken on faith that death is the Gift of the One to Men. This is the entire basis of the story of the decline and ultimate fall of Númenor. And so it will be missed almost entirely, until Ar-Pharazôn realizes that he is getting old.
Another episode is done and the disappointment gets worse, it makes me sad seeing this show being such garbage, I will watch it until the season ends but no way will I watch next season.
Can Tolkien experts tell me if Mithril is imbued with such vast life-giving properties in the texts? I thought it was just an exceedingly strong metal?
At this point, let's take a wild guess who' s gonna cut Sauron's finger off. You know it' s coming. Starts with Gal, ends with andriel. This is the most evil of all evil adaptations of anything so far.
I think it will be Isildur. But they will shoehorn Galadriel playing an important role in Sauron's downfall when the only thing she did before is reject Annatar (which Gilgalad also did). She'll probably also be part of the Last Alliance of course.
Even for a fantasy show its beyond unrealalitic, who needs T 2 when you have Guyladerial walking away from a VOLCANO explosions. Episode 7 was mid, 2 stars out of 5, dry and its still slow moving, 7 episodes in and they still wont tell us what the F is going on
We got knockoff Helm's Deep last episode. This episode we got knockoff Fellowship of the Ring scene where ring wraiths try to sniff out Frodo and the bunch hiding just below, under the tree. Stupid Theo took his new sword out, making a sound, lurking the orcs and recreating the scene, but much worse . I still don't understand how Galadriel and Theo got split from the main group. One scene they're together and there are other people around them, the next scene they are alone??? The hell? Did they decide not to help others, was that a conscious decision? And what happened with the three witches? One scene they spread the fire, and we never get to see them walk away or teleport. I thought there will be a continuation of this. But no. Next time we return to Hartfoots, it's several hours later and witches are gone. How did the Queen Regent saw that Isildur is staring at his dead friend if she was blind? "Leave him alone, he's gone!". Like you haven't even looked at what Isildur is staring at, it could be a bag of chips for all she knows. And you're blind! Ughhhhhhh. It's such an incredibly frustrating show to watch. And these dialogues. They are not SAYING ANYTHING! Galadriel and Theo conversation is such a mumble of non-sentences without any meaning. People don't talk in this show. They just say things.
You put a 300 million dollars in the hands of a genius in you get the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. You give 1 billion dollars in the hands of hacks and your get expensive crap.
I swear, this show is making me apologise mentally to Peter Jackson for all the things I said about the previous movies. I had problems with some of the changes he made to characters in LOTR, but by comparison he was so faithful and so careful with the work. Even The Hobbit is looking better by comparison: yes, Kili and Tauriel is a silly romance, but it's Tristan and Isolde level grand romance by comparison with Arondir/Bronwyn (who have no chemistry) and God help us all, Galadriel and Halbrand.
In Tolkien's books plagues and catastrophes have real consequence because there is the feeling those are part of the shadow that extends and weakens men and elves for an imminent attack while bidding its time. The TV show has undermined, not subverted, any expectation it creates by linking itself to Tolkien's lore.
~3:30 I mentioned in your other video that I saw first (fairly new subscriber here 😛 only realizing now that you made 3 separate videos for this ep...), that there was way less cringy things in this ep because there were no fight/battle scenes that production seems not very experienced with yet... But now that I hear you mention the other stuff that, come to think of it, are also cringy... lol! 😆 I guess they went over my head because my brain must have considered those scenes unimportant to pay too much attention to and so mostly just glossed over them. My bad. 😅 Add: It seems you like Disa... Actually, I do like Disa. The characters that I liked up to this point in the show are the following: Elendil, the Stranger, Elrond, Durin, and Disa. However, after this episode, I'm a bit afraid what their plans are for the characters of Elendil and Disa. It seems to me they are planning to make Elendil 'bad' in some way, perhaps making the reason for that being his fear that Isildur is dead. (But surely, he's not dead. His horse will find him somehow.) And Disa, I think they're making her 'bad' already. That's 'bad' in my eyes only, to be clear. I'm sure to them, and maybe to everyone else, it's not being bad, but instead badass. But what I mean is... I was surprised with the way she pushed Durin to defy his father. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, idk, but it seems to me, in the previous episodes when she's kind of pushing Durin to go certain ways, she does it in a very light or teasing or maybe subtle way. But this time around, it felt like it was outright sinister or with malice. Idk. I mean, I get that the father was being cold and all that, but I would have thought Disa would want to talk to him first instead of goading Durin to go behind his father's back? Makes me wonder if there were hints before of her having issues with her in-laws that I just missed.
The whole Celeborn thing seems so wrong. Why would the protagonist of the show reveals that she was married on episode 7? Elves, like swans, mate for life. It’s obviously very important for them. And is Celebrian around for Elrond to meet later on? This show is WEIRD
Where to begin? The whole thing is so mediocre. However, whereas the last couple episodes have been so bad I have enjoyed laughing at them, I am now a bit jaded. I cannot get over the arrogance and delusion of these writers. They obviously think that they are being incredibly clever in showing us the origin of mithril, or Mount Doom and Mordor but they cannot write and are screwing with what Tolkien wrote for no good reason.
Man, Galadriel is so small! She's only about the size of Theo. Elves are supposed to be bigger than humans for fucks sake. If you watch the movie scene with Galadriel and Aragorn when the Fellowship leaves Lothlorien, you'll notice that she's slightly taller than Aragorn, who himself is already tall for a human.
So, Disa reminds Durin they will rule, and dig, and all mithril will belong to them (maybe just her). Sort of Lady Macbeth of the dwarves. And you forgot the power point last little trick!!
🤣🤣🤣Your summary! ROLF LOL ROLF 🤣🤣🤣 BTW you forgot to mention the most dramatic end of the healed leaf as it floats down the abysmal hole to be incinerated by the BALROG! That was some amazing twist Tolkien was never able to even imagine! 🙃
Time Galadriel spends searching for Sauron: 1000 years
Time Galadriel spends searching for her missing husband: 0 years
You just knew all the characters would survive. There is no tension, no real stakes. The whole show is “nah, it will be fine” over and over and over again
Super easy, barely an inconvenience
We already know Isildur is alright despite getting crushed by burning debris.
Of course they can't die. This is a PREQUEL!! We know they don't die.
They are NEVER in any jeopardy at all.
I mean...extras can die, but who cares. By their very definition, they don't matter.
And that only leaves the characters Amazon cooked up from mythril & woke-juice, and pulled clean out ' their arses!
And we REALLY don't care about them! Not even a little bit!!
Besides... Amazon does not have the sheer balls to kill off their r own creations. They may want to be like a Game of Thrones...but they don't have the stones for it.
I heard the drinker strongly in this
*thing happens with no real build up or tension*
*repeat*
*throw in a mystery box trope*
*move on to next inconsequential thing*
i’m sure the Pompeians would have loved to have lived near mount doom instead of Vesuvius
You know I think the secret of surviving eruption is to walk right into it. Like Guyladriel. If people in Pompeys only knew ...
Ooof, when these vandals made Galadriel say "... and my husband, Celeborn"
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
(before they trailed their "never saw him again" future "what a twist" moment)
I came here to find out what happened. This show is magic. I normally struggle to get to sleep but turn this show on and within mins I'm fast asleep.
Tell me, where is Celeborn, for I much desire to speak with him?
He has fallen into Amazon’s dreadful writing- I mean shadow.
The power of shit writing (what did you say?)
hes been on a drunk bender for 1000 years apparantly since the War of Wrath listed him as missing lmao.....
Halbrand: "I'm your king, I'm going to sort this all out... oh shit this all went bad, I'm gonna leave." Southlanders "Huzzah!"
Those southlanders are so easily impressed, no wonder they served Morgoth.
Mithril now heals mallorn leaves and what woke Durin's bane wasn't the dwarves digging too deeply and too greedily, but because a dwarf threw a leaf in a hole... 🤦🏻
I didn't think it was possible, but this was the worst episode yet. Words fail to describe how many different levels this show sucks on.
every episode is worse than the last
You voicing Berek was absolute gold. The best part of the whole show.
“Naaaaayyyy” 🐴😂
Ha! It was a moment of inspiration!
Celeborn's sitting comfortably in the Halls of Mandos thinking to himself "thank pheurck I'm not appearing in this schyytte show!"
This show started as a 3/10 for me, then dropped to a 2. This episode made me so angry it’s now a 1. They have 1 episode left, so we will see if I rate it a 0 next week. Such a bad show in every way
When you bought up the "themes" of Lord of the Rings (not being about infidelity) I thought about how one of the strongest themes in the books is that of friendship and alliance. Yes, friendship is magic. While Tolkien despised allegory, no doubt the power of alliance and deep friendship is in the psyche of all of us in the Western world. And that's one of the big problems with the show....
In the Rings of Power there are no real, strong, binding friendships or alliances; everyone is a lone wolf type character. Yes, there are attempts at making characters close friends but they are meager. They even troll their own attempts by having harfoots left behind. It's a cold, lonely world. The power of love is weak with this one and it's partly why it's so unwatchable.
Yeah this is one of the biggest problems for me. No sense of friendship or loyalty. It's really a travesty
I think, I am going to rewatch Xena. At least the friendship is strong in this one. 🙂
They all hate each other. It's like what I understand an American High School to be like, after only ever seeing them in movies and TV shows.
Apparently the Balrog was roused out of his slumber by a leaf hitting the floor and not the sounds of picks and hammers.
Pretty goofy. I guess maybe the elvish scent was on it or something.
@@ErikKain That's kind of what I was thinking. Like everything else in the series it goes against the lore. They are putting culpability on the elves when it was the dwarves greed that awoke the Balrog. It's a little thing though.
I only made it through this episode knowing your review of it would be coming. Thank you for putting into words so precisely all of what is frustrating about what should be such an amazing show.
I am rooting for the Balrog 😂
I'm rooting for Sauron and the Orcs.
@@Lonovavir don't blsme you....... The writers of this show seem to have no talent...
Apparently a pyroclastic flow just covers you in Doritos nacho cheese dust
Volcanologists have been getting it wrong for years ...
All we needed was for Amazon to come and teach us different...
I'm happy for the orcs they looked so glad
Go Orcs!
Please use the correct pronoun! They don't like to be called orcs! It's uruk!
@@johnk8581 Thems are just nouns. Lady orcs are called Orcas. Very good swimmers that lot.
@@johnk8581 lmao 🤣
@@stevena.7022 lol 😆
You do understand that they HAD to release Bear-ack the Horse so that he will be able to find and rescue Isildur. You dont think they would let that scene with Aragord and Hasufel, from LotR, go unstolen do you???
**AraGORN**
Good observation!
it was Brego
@@AaronHJT Prego! Buon cavallo!
@@k-matsu Imho, that made the scene so much more boring and unneeded.
As soon as I saw the horse, the scar made sure I knew it was Isildur's (not a bad thing, though).
And as soon as the horse was shown to be restless, I knew they'd free it and that it'll return to Isildur, of course.
Which is just... lazy.
They stole the Beren-Luthien meeting and gave it to Galadriel and Celeborn; the part about her dancing in a glade of flowers and him finding her there. Man, can they stop doing this please!
At least they should use it for bronwyn and arondir, since that's what the whole romance is based on i think.
And that scene was personally dear to Tolkien (who had the names Beren and Luthien placed on his and Edith's grave): in Roos in 1917, in a grove of flowering hemlock, Edith began to dance and sing for Tolkien. On her death, JRRT wrote to Christopher, "In those days her hair was raven, her skin clear, her eyes brighter than you have seen them, and she could sing - and _dance_ ."
To lift that incident from JRRT's life and work just for some lines of dialogue and a mild joke is impertinent arrogance, and disrespect of the lowest order. And I do not use superlatives lightly.
@@majkus 😢
@@thehoneybunempress1664 With her seeing him dancing in a glade lol
Next episode will Isildur A: go on a solo adventure that's more interesting than any scene he's been in previously. Or B: just kind of wander to the garrison next episode and meet his dad after at least two fakeouts with a dead body that looks like his.
Berek will go find him and bring him back.
Reminds me of when aragron was thought to be dead and the horse found him
I doubt Celeborn is dead, but heck, no one mentioned him even once until this idiotic episode. There was zero indication that he even existed in the show at all. I get the idea that she might not want to talk about something so painful but NO ONE, not even her bestie Elrond implied the existence of Celeborn. I want this show to die a fiery death. Destroy it. Cast it into the fire.
Throw the writers in too, while you’re at it
I mean she talked about her brother as main source of her anger since the start.
So it's not even believable.
Also elves do not die so she can see them both in Valinor, but apparently writers do not know...
@@marisbury exactly. Sad thing is, the writers really think they’re being clever with this stuff. I wrote better fantasy when I was a teenager and believe me, my writing was pretty darn awful back then.
@@IUsedToBeAnAdventurerLikeYou I do believe, I did read better fanfics.
yeah its crazy that the show cant even get through an entire season without redoing its own continuity
I gave up on the show after witnessing the worst sword fight in cinematic history on ep. 5
Looking forward for your Forbes review as well, Erik.
Keep up the good work!
Oh gods, are they setting up the turn to evil, the rise to power of Sauron, the Dark Lord himself, because he is spurned in a love triangle...
They are, aren't they.
Incidentally, the Dark Souls bonfire and music at the end is feeling very appropriate now, like each episode is us trekking out to get our backsides kicked again lol
He also tried to lead a normal life as a blacksmith in Numenor, but a simpleton's life was denied him. I just can't even
Gladrial is 100% sauron
The volcano is always right
you know "berreck" is gonna go and magically find isildur in the ruins of the house and help him back, aka brego and aragorn. its like poetry it rhymes
Gotta love the fact that the writers wanted to create tension by showing Theo looking for his possibly dead mother but the marketing team ruined it: they published stills from the episode, before the episode's release, one of which showed Bronwyn with Galadriel, both without a single scratch.
Hell, they had images of Bronwyn in that red cloak before the show even aired.
Lmao
Love how Bronwyn left the village without looking for her kid. I assume a mother would stay until she found him or confirmed his death. But no, she's cool. Arondir is hot, so...
The Mithril storyline is handled in such a contrived way that the waking of the Balrog is a non-moment. If people with no actual life experience write a fantasy story, its driving force will be melodrama and not story drama. There’s that one scene in Jackson’s trilogy where Faramir drags Frodo and Sam hundreds of miles away from their road to Osgiliath only so Faramir can have his change of heart and free them once again. I hated that scene, not just for the melodramatic back and forth, give and takeaway and give again, that it carries, but because it significantly altered the strength of Faramir’s character and was a huge departure from the story. Faramir’s character is so strong that the power of the Ring held far less sway over him than it did Boromir or even Denethor. There was no need for Faramir’s arc - he was already tested and proven, and so the “redemption of Faramir” subplot was entirely superfluous. The Hobbit trilogy (kill me) was also full of this sort of shit.
This is the best The Rings of Power can conjure. By the time we finally saw the Balrog my strongest feeling was joy that the episode was over. And this is how they woke the Balrog? Not that they delved too deeply and too greedily, but that they sealed up the mine and dropped a leaf on him. I can’t even with these writers.
they sealed up the mine and dropped a leaf on him
bruh what?
You brought back all misgivings about Jackson's Faramir. The whole point of him is he's an example of how the best in men still endures. Spot on.
@@marisbury yup, pretty much that
Even Denethor gets a worse press than he deserves in Jackson's TROTK. He was a noble and tragic figure. But Jackson's movies are looking better every day, by comparison with ROP's mess!
Yes, Faramir's episode was first, based on the misguided formula that heroes must not be too heroic, and have a 'character arc'. So we spent an episode just getting Faramir to where he should have been in the first place (and did not even seal the deal by putting the twice-spoken 'Not if I found it on the highway would I take it' into his mouth). And second (which Jackson should have realized since it wasn't in the book), it accomplished nothing at all, and ends where it began. It was incident for the sake of incident, like Aragorn doing the Indiana Jones off the cliff (complete with John Rhys-Davies mourning him!).
Thank the Valor that you have the stomach to watch this so I do not have to. I gave up after episode two. Appreciate your sacrifice. I will miss your take on this when we are finally released from this torture.
*Valar
@@jspthesecond0723 oops thanks
"Auta i lóme!" and "Aurë entuluva!" On September 3rd, the Tolkien phandom awoke and found half of the Tolkien-verse under the dominion of the corporate machine theyocracy. Thus we bring "council in these dark times,": EXSURGE TOLKIEN, our current channel's counter series. It is now beyond a doubt that The Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power" is independent of Tolkien and his world's Orthodoxy. ROP a schism that will leave a forever rift between the phandom and wrought confusion for years to come.
“Get on the boat . Naaaaaaay” lol Episode 7- 0 stars. Eric’s horse impression -5 stars.
Heh
With this being one of the final two episodes, I thought all our suffering would be rewarded. I was wrong. They have only doubled down on their terrible writing. I only watch it now to make fun of it.
The dry, serious tone of the previous reviews from you made sense in context
But the comedy and piss takery in this one ? 😂👌
the harfoots can't just be happy happy Tolkien hobbits, though, because of Scriptwriting 101 which requires conflict in EVERY scene otherwise the scene gets cut. the writers inject conflict into the harfoot sequences via their inhumane, indefensible tradition of abandoning the sick and injured to die. it doesn't seem to bother them that this makes the harfoots abhorrent, but then, it doesn't seem to bother them that injecting conflict into Galadriel's scenes by making her ridiculously combative and argumentative (and later genocidal) also makes her deeply unpleasant and unsympathetic.
Another stupid conflict they injected into the Harfoots is having to lug those giant carts around all over the place, even though they are seemingly only using them to haul clumps of grass and moss and cute leaves to stick in their hair. Lmao.
@@johns1625 There are no draft animals in the Amazoniverse Middle-earth (e.g., to haul Disa's new table across Eriador). And, it appears, there are also no horses until they are brought from Westernesse.
Are they doing this on purpose for some reason, or are they just not thinking? Neither one would surprise me at this point.
@@johns1625 seriously the only function Ive seen from the carts is shelter from rain and to carry a few basic cooking items
When he starts crying after the Queen says there coming back I was done hate watching I can’t do it anymore
The text at the end switched Southland's to Mordor. The writing is so corny that I fully expect the damn horse to go rescue whatshisface. They continuously have "danger" with no danger.. nobody dies and anyone hurt heals quickly.. so theirs one more episode at the pace their going , no conflict is going to be solved which means more mystery boxes followed by a sorry excuse of a cliff hanger...so excited.....
hopefully we get a mindless 10 minute stretch of just watching the Balrog murder dwarves and the show ending because mindless arcade game is the best we can hope for
Things I learned from Episode 7:
1. Mithril heals black rot.
2. Leaves awaken Balrogs.
3. Pyroclastic flow (clouds of fire and red hot ash) doesn't always kill.
4. "Celeborn was his name" so he's dead, so Arwen won't be born.
Either arwen won't be born or they will change her parenthood and I think we know who this this show is going to be making her new grandad.
Celeborn disappeared but not necessarily dead. Maybe he walked off the show?
LOOOOL, like the leaf awakening the balrog has to be the fucking dumbest thing theyve done, and every episode has been soooo dumb, so when they're mining and they're getting tremors, that big cave the balrog is in, I'm sure rocks are falling all around it
Mithril heals black rot, huh? Happen to know where I could get some? Asking for a friend.
@@hamletksquid2702 you got a lil sum mitrhil? DM me
They made Galadriel believe Celeborn is dead so she can kiss Halbrand.
I wanted to throw up
celeborn died?
I don;t believe it , I think he fled head over heels to the Halls of Mandos the moment the marriage was consumed.
Elves do not die, they go to Mandos yeah
So Galadriel jumping from Valinor ship basically prevented her from seeing husband AND brother again. Both of them in Mandos.
*consummated
@@BernardLangham they mean the same thing
i had a sudden terrible epipheny earlier this week, around the "evil fire is cold" trope. were they going to pretend that Mount Doom's pyroclastic flow was "evil", and hence not at the usual 1500 degrees Fahrenheit? i haven't watched the episode, but maybe this is their "in game" justification for nobody being vaporized. if so i'm intrigued to learn how they think Mount Doom's "evil", "cold" fire is subsequently capable of melting the One Ring. also, if the fire/magma is cold, it wouldn't explode into steam on contact with water, but again, i'm probably overthinking something which the writers underthought.
They confused mount doom with mountain dew, code red specifically
They actually just skipped any explanation whatsoever.... 😓
"you are not supposed to think about it... just consume" amazon
Really wish they would have spent some of the billion dollar budget for this show to send the writers to writing camp
Some could also have used some acting lessons 😉
You forgot when Durin I throws the rock down the well and wakes the legions of goblins like a fool Took ... he throws the leaf in the mithril chasm and it floats to the bottom where the Balrog will eventually be killed by Gandalf. So, the dwarves didn’t wake the Balrog by mining too deep - the chasm was already there. It was that meanie Durin I littering.
I think the Balrog went too far with that littering fine on Moria.
I don't believe they dared to kill Celeborn. I also believe they said 'Ive not seen him since " they to bring him back later
Yes its an attempt to give Galadriel a romantic sexual arc - never mind that elves usually stayed loyal to their spouses even after death.
That's just obvious.
@@mikem9001 It's also an attempt to just have him thematically out of the picture so their main female character is not saddled to a man and has "agency" and "independence". It's so transparent and ham-fisted.
She gonna FK Sauron isn't she ? Lol what in the CW vampire diaries, teen wolf is this show lol
Yeah. Celeborn didn't do much in the Third Age but everyone who knows anything about the lore knows he has to be there. The funny thing is that despite the fact that they clearly took Celeborn out of the picture so Galadriel isn't "baggaged" by a husband, she already had far more agency than Celeborn anyway.
She is the one with the greater power (who refuses to use it) and is the one given the ring. Celeborn is important to the lore but doesn't do that much beyond being Galadriel's husband and Celebrian's father.
I don't think Celeborn is dead. Galadriel says that she never saw him again. I suspect they are going to spring his intro as she's getting cozy with with Halbrand as a "gotcha" moment to create tension.
Why is this show so bad? Facepalm
I really enjoy your Forbes reviews, but this is GOLD. Comedic gold.
Haha thanks!
Makes sense. I'd disappear and pretend I was dead too if I was married to Galadriel for all of eternity. Also, now that all the anti-Hobbits food is burnt up I can't wait to see them go all Donner party and start cannibalizing each other. "Nobody dines alone!"
Anyone else noticing the complete lack of involvement/presence regarding the enemy? Literally Adar appeared 3 mins before the end of the episode lol plus we got a glimpse of those pointed corrupted elven folk fookin up nature lol. What nonsense! *The stakes just ain't high for me*
Thanks for the frank analysis. At this point I don't care about spoilers, the show sucks so bad. Killing off Celeborn? Yikes. There's an old saying when you find yourself in a hole stop digging yet Amazon and the show runners just keep digging this hole deeper and deeper to the ruin of us all.
Ah, she thought he was dead. Explains everything.
He's either in the witness protection program or killed himself.
Actually, the worst part of the episode is when they reveal Mordor. with changing the text... why like this? Can ́t he just say it?? whyyyy?
RIGHT, it was so ugly and jarring.
They'll probably gonna play the Galadriel and Sauron had a kid and have that love triangle with Celeborn once he is re-embodied or something.
And I'm guessing Galadriel and Sauron, i mean Halbrand gonna pass thru Moria and she will fight the balrog herself.
Oh god this show.
This episode had me convinced that Disa is Sauron. The way she was talking to Durin implied very subtle manipulation and ambition. I'm sure they'll pull that out of a hat, as I have zero hope in this show making any sense (forget the lore which was cast into the Void) after basically everyone survived the volcano's pyroclastic flow. Yeah, sure.
I can hear Celeborn from Lothlorien where he's hiding from Galadriel currently (due to her petty arrogant attitude here) saying now: "Tell me, where is Galadriel, for I much desire to speak with her." May Eru deliver us from the catastrophe that is this show.
Well she sure has yellow eyes… but then Sauron would be the mother of two dwarven kids 😬
“His name was Celeborn.” 🤬🤬🤬
Immediately shut it off after that and put on Fellowship to try and forget this bs show.
Jumping the shark is no longer a sufficient description for what this series is doing.
Literally everything that happens, every moment of gravitas is unearned. Nothing in the show is earned. No character development, and almost no chain of events. And the entire Southlands is a single village of 100 people? How did they ever imagine we'd find this epic?
also, can I say how much I love your opening montage? that horse is going to save Isildur lol
Thanks! And yes, the horse is always right!
I personally like how the Rings of Power have yet to play any goddamn role in the show called Rings of Power.
We remember how in LOTR, the _very goddamn first thing_ you saw was the one ring. And then you saw the _lord of the rings._
Not only that (because that's a bit superficial, even if cool), everything else was driven by the ring, and in extension the lord of the ring.
Here? Ehhh... No.
There's a difference between one "Hobbits like to party, whooo!"-111th-birthday scene and the neverending boringness that are the harfoots.
-"Southlanders, here is your king!"
-"I did not vote for him..."
-"Wait, so some elf bird with a sword waves it around and that makes him our king?"
“I’m gonna elvish heal him” 😂
It's like they had a checklist of fantasy tropes
It's so amazingly transparent that Celeborn's "death" is purely to pull a Pearl Harbor love triangle.
Yeah pretty much. I think most everyone seeing that line will think "we know he's not dead, they'll drag him back out at a contrived opportunity, but now they can do whatever they want with Galadriel without the baggage of a husband"
That idea sounds so terrible and revolting I'd be amazed if it's not in a script yet.
@@jrconway3 Nevermind the fact that its been a couple THOUSAND YEARS since the War of Wrath in the 1st Age. You'd think he would turn up at some point and word would get out... Nope, we just have to force Galadrial and Halbrand/Sauron into boning because thats the spiciest thing these writers can think of
Isildur is dead. It will actually be his sister Eärien who cuts the ring from Sauron's finger ;)
I like your take Celeborn must be alive somewhere I don’t think they would kill him off when he is in PJ’s movie. If they did though just another really bad mistake on their end.
Mary Sue Karen yelled at the volcano that she wants to speak to its manager and that saved everyone lol
I mean, is it not clear that Celeborn is still alive? Like, do y’all not understand he’s still alive, he’s alive in the third age, he’s in Lord of the Rings.
They didn’t kill off Celeborn. They just confirmed Celeborn will be in the show.
What a very clever comment!
Its plot contrivance for Galadriel to do whatever they want her to do without the baggage of a husband, then they can pull him out of thin air to get us back to the LOTR trilogy.
I do think the end goal is that they don't contradict LOTR and The Hobbit. Everything else prior to that can be made up and they just don't care.
So you want to see Galadrial bone Sauron and have a Pearl Harbor Love triangle... I bet Celebrian is Saurons bastard child...
It seems that all Amazon have created is another soap opera complete with all the modern day politics and social attitudes that go with it! With every episode they move further and further away from anything that Tolkein would have written. It really is garbage!
Loving your reviews of The Rings of Missed Opportunities.
thanks!
mark my words that they have Gender swapped Sauron
They left Galadriel for dead in the village. Such a pointless episode.
Big fan bro
appreciate it!
Imagine if Galadriel actually dies then she returns some time later being ressurected by the Maiars or something (be creative) it might not be canon but since Galadriel is the wisest of them all ...maybe went trough something similar like Gandalf. It's a fantasy world. It might fit inside the 1st/2nd age (i have no idea about the lore) ...i mean thats some interesting idea here at least..
shes not Maiar and the "glow" she has in the LOTR Trilogy was always supposed to be there. So since she looks like an average person here, she always will. She doesnt possess any powers other than being an insufferable twat
Galadriel dies.....mmm I like that part. Personally I think she is the worst character of the show.
The only casualty of the show is Tolkien's works.
they've done my boy Teleporno dirty
Oddly liked this episode more because the characters seemed more believable and 3D. Galadriel was better, and Theo grew a bit.
But the plot… yikes. Mithril, Celeborn, and Blind Miriel. They just straight up lied about maintaining fidelity.
If Celeborn is dead, then he is in the Halls of Waiting (I forget the official name) awaiting reincarnation like Galadriel's beother. Death is not permanent to an elf.
Halls of Mandos
Yeah, but I can somewhat understand that elves in Middle-Earth may not know this. Death was a new concept to elves after they went To Middle-Earth, and elves being revived is also based on their deeds in Middle-Earth. Not all elves get revived, and its possible to argue the elves might not be aware that the elves who die in Middle-Earth return to Valinor (at least not yet).
That's the ONLY way Galadriel's revenge arc can he justified. If she knew her brother was just resurrected in Valinor, her entire motivation falls apart.
Gandalf is the one who says death is just the beginning, and after death he will see the white shores of Valinor (at least in PJ's trilogy). He would know this, being a Maiar, but he also already died once and got sent back.
@@jrconway3 Death was not a new concept except in the Amazoniverse. On the Great Journey, they could see animals fading and dying, and some Elves were assuredly killed. Galadriel's statement that they had no word for death is an Amazon lie ('PHIR' and 'NGUR' were two proto-Eldarin roots for death). The idea that people in Valinor had no idea of who Mandos was and what became of Elvish souls is preposterous: and a good chunk of Tolkien's writing on the subject of the fate of the souls of Men and Elves is a dialogue between a mortal woman and… Finrod!
But in the Amazoniverse, the souls of the Quendi can 'fade to nothingness' without the light of the Silmarils or something equally nonsensical. So, zero out of ten for Amazon for agreement with JRRT's writing.
Gandalf's explanation to Pippin is completely out of synch with JRRT's extensive writings on the subject and should be ignored. Like Payne/McKay, in this case Jackson either wholly misunderstood, or chose to ignore, the books. What happens to the souls of Men after death is unknown, even to the Valar. It must be taken on faith that death is the Gift of the One to Men. This is the entire basis of the story of the decline and ultimate fall of Númenor. And so it will be missed almost entirely, until Ar-Pharazôn realizes that he is getting old.
Another episode is done and the disappointment gets worse, it makes me sad seeing this show being such garbage, I will watch it until the season ends but no way will I watch next season.
Nice work on these reviews. Well done!
Can Tolkien experts tell me if Mithril is imbued with such vast life-giving properties in the texts? I thought it was just an exceedingly strong metal?
You're right. The showrunners made it up completely.
yeah its just a rare precious metal lol
@@peteg475 that's such a startling lack of imagination.
Cant wait for the Forbes article!
At this point, let's take a wild guess who' s gonna cut Sauron's finger off. You know it' s coming. Starts with Gal, ends with andriel. This is the most evil of all evil adaptations of anything so far.
I think it will be Isildur. But they will shoehorn Galadriel playing an important role in Sauron's downfall when the only thing she did before is reject Annatar (which Gilgalad also did). She'll probably also be part of the Last Alliance of course.
@@jrconway3 And she' ll probably lead them all!
@@jrconway3 she will reject him sure enough... after 3 seasons of cheesy forced romance arcs with him. cant wait for a Sauron sex scene lmao
Even for a fantasy show its beyond unrealalitic, who needs T 2 when you have Guyladerial walking away from a VOLCANO explosions. Episode 7 was mid, 2 stars out of 5, dry and its still slow moving, 7 episodes in and they still wont tell us what the F is going on
We got knockoff Helm's Deep last episode. This episode we got knockoff Fellowship of the Ring scene where ring wraiths try to sniff out Frodo and the bunch hiding just below, under the tree. Stupid Theo took his new sword out, making a sound, lurking the orcs and recreating the scene, but much worse .
I still don't understand how Galadriel and Theo got split from the main group. One scene they're together and there are other people around them, the next scene they are alone??? The hell? Did they decide not to help others, was that a conscious decision?
And what happened with the three witches? One scene they spread the fire, and we never get to see them walk away or teleport. I thought there will be a continuation of this. But no. Next time we return to Hartfoots, it's several hours later and witches are gone.
How did the Queen Regent saw that Isildur is staring at his dead friend if she was blind? "Leave him alone, he's gone!". Like you haven't even looked at what Isildur is staring at, it could be a bag of chips for all she knows. And you're blind!
Ughhhhhhh. It's such an incredibly frustrating show to watch.
And these dialogues. They are not SAYING ANYTHING! Galadriel and Theo conversation is such a mumble of non-sentences without any meaning. People don't talk in this show. They just say things.
love your reviews!
You put a 300 million dollars in the hands of a genius in you get the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. You give 1 billion dollars in the hands of hacks and your get expensive crap.
I swear, this show is making me apologise mentally to Peter Jackson for all the things I said about the previous movies. I had problems with some of the changes he made to characters in LOTR, but by comparison he was so faithful and so careful with the work. Even The Hobbit is looking better by comparison: yes, Kili and Tauriel is a silly romance, but it's Tristan and Isolde level grand romance by comparison with Arondir/Bronwyn (who have no chemistry) and God help us all, Galadriel and Halbrand.
GoT had an oathbreaker. So you know these clowns had to copy them with Elrond the Oathbreaker
In Tolkien's books plagues and catastrophes have real consequence because there is the feeling those are part of the shadow that extends and weakens men and elves for an imminent attack while bidding its time. The TV show has undermined, not subverted, any expectation it creates by linking itself to Tolkien's lore.
~3:30 I mentioned in your other video that I saw first (fairly new subscriber here 😛 only realizing now that you made 3 separate videos for this ep...), that there was way less cringy things in this ep because there were no fight/battle scenes that production seems not very experienced with yet...
But now that I hear you mention the other stuff that, come to think of it, are also cringy... lol! 😆 I guess they went over my head because my brain must have considered those scenes unimportant to pay too much attention to and so mostly just glossed over them. My bad. 😅
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It seems you like Disa...
Actually, I do like Disa. The characters that I liked up to this point in the show are the following: Elendil, the Stranger, Elrond, Durin, and Disa.
However, after this episode, I'm a bit afraid what their plans are for the characters of Elendil and Disa.
It seems to me they are planning to make Elendil 'bad' in some way, perhaps making the reason for that being his fear that Isildur is dead. (But surely, he's not dead. His horse will find him somehow.)
And Disa, I think they're making her 'bad' already. That's 'bad' in my eyes only, to be clear. I'm sure to them, and maybe to everyone else, it's not being bad, but instead badass. But what I mean is... I was surprised with the way she pushed Durin to defy his father.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, idk, but it seems to me, in the previous episodes when she's kind of pushing Durin to go certain ways, she does it in a very light or teasing or maybe subtle way. But this time around, it felt like it was outright sinister or with malice. Idk. I mean, I get that the father was being cold and all that, but I would have thought Disa would want to talk to him first instead of goading Durin to go behind his father's back? Makes me wonder if there were hints before of her having issues with her in-laws that I just missed.
Lol it's such juvenile writing. The legend of the seeker was actually better from what I remember.
This makes more sense when you realize this is a lost film serial from the 1940s.
The whole Celeborn thing seems so wrong. Why would the protagonist of the show reveals that she was married on episode 7? Elves, like swans, mate for life. It’s obviously very important for them. And is Celebrian around for Elrond to meet later on? This show is WEIRD
Ha, thanks for suffering for us. I have stopped watching this crap now. Prefer to watch it the YT reviews.
And Bereks like “NEIGH!”
lol
Where to begin? The whole thing is so mediocre. However, whereas the last couple episodes have been so bad I have enjoyed laughing at them, I am now a bit jaded. I cannot get over the arrogance and delusion of these writers. They obviously think that they are being incredibly clever in showing us the origin of mithril, or Mount Doom and Mordor but they cannot write and are screwing with what Tolkien wrote for no good reason.
Man, Galadriel is so small! She's only about the size of Theo. Elves are supposed to be bigger than humans for fucks sake. If you watch the movie scene with Galadriel and Aragorn when the Fellowship leaves Lothlorien, you'll notice that she's slightly taller than Aragorn, who himself is already tall for a human.
I absolutely live for watching him so bitterly blackpilled compared to his earlier episodes.
This Serie is an insult to film making, script making, acting, STORY TIMELINE, Tolkien work legacy genius and fans. Degrading in every senses
So, Disa reminds Durin they will rule, and dig, and all mithril will belong to them (maybe just her). Sort of Lady Macbeth of the dwarves. And you forgot the power point last little trick!!
Mithril makes no sense considering there are several races of elves the wood elves were born understarlight so would not need the light of the tree.
Hilarious dude. Loving your content man.
Thanks!
🤣🤣🤣Your summary! ROLF LOL ROLF 🤣🤣🤣
BTW you forgot to mention the most dramatic end of the healed leaf as it floats down the abysmal hole to be incinerated by the BALROG! That was some amazing twist Tolkien was never able to even imagine! 🙃