I have the original MINIX book, just because its one of the first OS books in my collection. It started long ago with the 5 1/2" floppies in the back of the book.
I find the several jabs at linux weird, one would think he'd be proud that he had a hand in the creation of something so widespread today. Regardless, this is awesome. Minix3, the zircon kernel, redox os. T'is a new golden age.
This rivalry has been going on for decades. He should let it go, it makes him sound kind of silly to be honest. Which is a shame, because he's obviously brilliant
Actually the jabs are not weird. I'm here watching this today because I'm contemplating that Linux could be compromised by a bad state actor and nobody would know it. It's just too big. Tanebaum really is an Oracle and he is correct on the benefits of the microkernel. Minix is inevitable.
@@metatechnologist Minix author kept saying the overhead of micro kernel and userspace drivers became a big deal for nothing since Perl was being used on same systems too. I think in the long term, future ready concepts will be implemented. Just check what happened to NeXT/Openstep and Mach. It ended up being the world's most used UNIX Desktop. I wouldn't be surprised if they slowly add plan9 to the "mix".
The possibilities in the couple of decades may look insane for today. Considering things like kilocore+ cores , crazy memory configurations and the eventual end to memory/storage/network resources distinction will need a sci-fi OS ;-)
@@Olgasys I didn't invest as much time on Minix as I would like, but I agree. This seems like a great OS and I would love it to be a more widespread OS. Plan9 too. Both bring much to the table.
He probably is and this is his passion project. Not unlike Donald Knuth and his Book series the art of computing. Regardless I'm quite thankful for his discussions
Both BSD and NT origin is the Mach microkernel. NT later moved video into the kernel. Rich Rashid, Mach originator, worked at Microsoft for first Windows NT code.
I have the original MINIX book, just because its one of the first OS books in my collection. It started long ago with the 5 1/2" floppies in the back of the book.
I find the several jabs at linux weird, one would think he'd be proud that he had a hand in the creation of something so widespread today.
Regardless, this is awesome. Minix3, the zircon kernel, redox os. T'is a new golden age.
This rivalry has been going on for decades. He should let it go, it makes him sound kind of silly to be honest. Which is a shame, because he's obviously brilliant
@@lethalttyI think it is GNU Vs BSD philosophy.
Actually the jabs are not weird. I'm here watching this today because I'm contemplating that Linux could be compromised by a bad state actor and nobody would know it. It's just too big. Tanebaum really is an Oracle and he is correct on the benefits of the microkernel. Minix is inevitable.
@@metatechnologist Minix author kept saying the overhead of micro kernel and userspace drivers became a big deal for nothing since Perl was being used on same systems too.
I think in the long term, future ready concepts will be implemented. Just check what happened to NeXT/Openstep and Mach. It ended up being the world's most used UNIX Desktop. I wouldn't be surprised if they slowly add plan9 to the "mix".
Would love to see a comparison with Plan9. I really like this approach.
The possibilities in the couple of decades may look insane for today. Considering things like kilocore+ cores , crazy memory configurations and the eventual end to memory/storage/network resources distinction will need a sci-fi OS ;-)
@@Olgasys I didn't invest as much time on Minix as I would like, but I agree. This seems like a great OS and I would love it to be a more widespread OS. Plan9 too. Both bring much to the table.
Looks like it's not. Professor Tanenbaum said in 2016 that he is officially retired.
He probably is and this is his passion project. Not unlike Donald Knuth and his Book series the art of computing. Regardless I'm quite thankful for his discussions
Is Minix 3 still maintained? It feels like it is stuck at 3.4.0rc
I have the same question. No github updates anymore. I am not sure, if it is closed now ...
@@matheusrambo8760 there probably a more active cgit and mailing list
@@basscass710MINIX google groups are still pretty active, i saw many activities this month there.
It ended up running in your CPU 24/7. Check Intel MEI etc
It’s sad this project died
This one didn't work out however Minix runs on more CPUs than Linux. All Intels. CPU runs Minix internally.
No mention of Mach microkernel in BSD?
Win NT is microkernel based. NT paradigm is everything is a network resource. Linux/unix everything is a file resource.
WNT is VMS rebranded by means of a single lexical increment along the string.
NT is not a micro kernel
It is more of a hybrid kernel, but it's closer to a microkernel than Linux is, for sure.
Both BSD and NT origin is the Mach microkernel. NT later moved video into the kernel. Rich Rashid, Mach originator, worked at Microsoft for first Windows NT code.
@@zofe NT project was led by David Cutler of rsx-11 & Vax fame. Original "N-10" was for i860 RISC processors
In Texas, you shoot the computer.
He has no bachelor's or master's degree in Computer Science or Computer Engineering.Basically he holds degree in Physics
4.5 M€? That could probably have been spent better...
Omg I'm student and I had the same ideas
I really feel like this presentation is bloated. so I will ignore this as BSD is not a thing anymore neither. all of this is useless.
You should be ignorant to think that bsd is no longer relevant
Interesting name
@@rohitashwin9167 1% of the server land
@@libremercadoencrisiseconom2118 Which includes small time players like Netflix. Let's not forget every gaming console Sony did and MacOS. Right.
Boomer doesn't understand the field of Software Reliability Engineering.