+Skipperino Kripperino dont these long content vids without stream clips make you salty? when do you think the senpai will notice you? within the year?
+talha tariq Most c'thun related cards will. It's arguable how competetive these decks will be, but they will definitly be around. A lot. Because everyone wil have C'thun.
It was confirmed in the livestream Kripp as an FYI that with Fandral Staghelm Druid of the claw and flame will be a 4/6 taunt with charge and a 5/5 respectively. They made separate art for those cards too which should be cool!
Just for clarification: Unlike what the Kripp says in the video, Forbidden Ancient has no synergy with Brann. Brann would just run the battlecry again, which would spend all your 0 mana and make it gain an additional +0/+0. Even Kripp The Great can make mistakes.
+ChrisCarTheMarauder Don't see how. The battlecry says "Spend all your Mana." You spend it all the first time, and when Brann triggers it again, you have 0 mana to spend.
***** You're right, it should remain shitty and never see play and get no synergy for the primary card for battlecry minions. You're like the guy who nerfed Blade Flurry.
12:50 "In arena, you can't go wrong with weapons" -Kripp 2016 How good is cursed blade ? (December 27 2015) "Cursed blade is this awful AWFUL card..." - Kripp 2015 Seems like you forgot somthing there Kripp, Kappa
Regarding Fandral's Choose one effects with transformed minions, Ben Brode stated in a livestream that there is now a 3rd transformation that combines the effects/stats of both transformed minions. E.G. Druid of the claw turns into a 4/6 taunt with charge, Druid of the flame turns into a 5/5 etc.
+MagmaRagerino Kripperino will use the burned rager in a hobgoblin deck, ask ben brode for a 3 mana minion that increase the health of 1 life minion by 2.
There's a reason I usually mainly stick with Kripp evaluating the cards over anyone else. He really truly analyzes the cards not only situationally but with its interactions with other cards, both with mechanics I never thought of myself. There's been countless cards with this set that I initially though we're underwhelming until Kripp brings up situations and reasons why in fact a lot of these are strong. Good Stuff Kripp
as they said the transfrom card will have a new, third, form so yes druid of the flame is 5/5, druid of the claw will be 4/6 taunt and charge, acient of war will be 10/10 taunt etc... basically you get all the best aspects of each transformation
Blizzards Balance Team: "Lets nerf Blade Flurry, as this will allow the design team to make some cool rogue weapons and weapon buffs". Blizzards Design Team: "Lets not give rogue any weapons or direct buffs this expansion, because Blade Flurry would make these over powered". Meanwhile, there was no communication between these teams.
+Kripparrian 1:26 Ben Brode confirmed on stream that they designed Third Forms for minions with choose one / transform effects like Druid of the Flame 13:22 Turn 1: Selfless Hero // Turn 2: Coin + Steward of Darkshire + Trade SH // Turn 3: Magma Rager // Turn 4: Double "Duskboar" and snow ball....
If you had seen the reveal video, Ben Brode explains exactly how Fandral Staghelm works with transform minions. They have made a 3rd form that will have the advantages from both forms. 4/6 taunt "bear cat" and so on.
I mean...usually you don't need both effects(Druid of the claw), and sometimes it makes the card worse(ancient of war). So the only reasonable way to play it would be thaurissan - fandral - ancient of lore - Druid of the saber
Yes, having Fandral on board and playing a Choose One card like Druid of the Flame will give you combined stats (in this case a 5/5). Ben Brode mentioned on the stream that they made a third variant card for every one of these to reflect the new forms.
The tools Shamans got in TGT are insane, Aggro shaman would be OP if it was any more consistent than it currently is. If the shaman gets the cards they want you can easily lose turn 3-4. Inconsistency keeps it in check though.
This is why i prefer Kripps card reviews over any other streamer. He gives you the most thorough incite on each card without any biased opinions. Cough* ....Amaz .....Cough*
+SkipTheSparrow ok, i'm not sure what you wrote qualifies as an explanation. take druid of the claw. if it both gains *charge* and gains *+2 health and taunt*, it is a 4/6 taunt with charge. obviously. (same with ancient of war, a 10/10 taunt, etc.) but if druid of the flame both transforms into a 2/5 and transforms into a 5/2... that doesn't even make sense! (if it was a 2/2 and said choose one - gain 3 attack or 3 health, that would be understandable. maybe they'll change its wording.)
+theantimatter Ben himself said that it will transform into a 5\5, and will be a completely different minion. See their "Whisper of the old gods live stream" stream VOD on HS official channel.
For Staghelm it was clarified on stream that the transform minions will each be given a new third form to transform into that combines the best effects of both choices. For example, Druid of the Claw will be a 4/6 minion with both charge and taunt, Druid of the Saber will be a 3/2 minion with both charge and stealth, and Druid of the Flame will be a 5/5 minion.
“Life's not about how hard of a hit you can give... it's about how many you can take, and still keep moving forward.” ― Sylvester Stallone, Rocky Balboa
A headsup for those that didn't watch the reveal stream. Fandral Staghelm transform the choose one minions into a third form with special name and art. For example, Druid of the claw becomes a 4/6 taunt with charge. The effects happens in the order they are written so the left option happens first and then the right one.
About transform effects with the Fandral. Ben Brode said that BOTH effect will take place, and actually that there are a bunch of NEW ARTS and NEW SOUNDS for the combined effect. ALL Choose One - transform will basically now have a THIRD option that they will transform to only if Fandral is in the board. Frecking cool.
With Fandral Staghelm the minions that transform get the stats that are best over all so Druid of the flame will be 5/5 minion, Druid of the claw will be a 4/6 with taunt, and charge and so on. This was confirmed by Ben Brode in the stream which was on 21st of April, he also said that they made new card art for when these minions get both options.
+TheGreatRakatan halleluja, I have 3 shaman decks that I have used at one point or another and each of them will be come strictly and significantly better. This should be fun
Scott Kemp Now that i think about it. The wording is fine. Deathrattles don't go off on mills so they didn't die. I agree that it won't see play though.
I haven't scrolled through the comments, so someone may have already said this, but Ben Brode on twitter (possibly on the stream) said that there is now an added 3rd transform that is a combination of the choose one cards. So DotC becomes a 4/6 charge with taunt, AoW becomes a 10/10 taunt and the 3 mana DotF becomes a 5/5. It also applies to your choose one spells as well allowing for some interesting effects with Raven Idol or the new choose one spell.
4:28 I don't think it is going to work with brann, he will activate the battlecry use ur 9 crystal and become a 10-10 then he will activate the battlecry again but u have already spent all your mana and will add 0-0
Ben Brode said on the stream that with Fandral Staghelm, a third minion is created for choose one transform effects(i.e. Druid of the flame and Druid of the Claw). So you will get a 5/5 or a 4/6 taunt charge.
Definitely not giving Fendral enough credit. Even Raven Idol turns into draw 2. I hope Kripp gives us a more extensive review on these cards based on class and neutrals. He just misses a lot of interactions.
Divine Strength - "We couldn't think of anything, so we made a Magic The Gathering card." Bladed Cultist - "Coin, have two 2/3's." Flamewreathed Faceless - Turn 4 7/7, Turn 5 "have enough mana to play rockbiter and windfury, insta 20 damage"
Kripp: "Can you combo on turn 1? Not really. That's really hard to do." Oh yes, tell us how playing a coin is really hard to do. Or coin + 1-drop + this card.
About 1:48, Blizzard confirmed in their reveal stream that the minions with transfrom effects will get a 3rd form for that case which combines both stat buffs, so that druid of the claw becomes a 4/6 Taunt with charge.
I'm sure lots of other people have posted this but just in case it was missed - Ben Brode said on stream that there are new druid forms for the cards where you 'Choose One' into a specific create. Druid of the Flame becomes a 5/5 and druid of the claw is a 4/6 with charge and taunt
43:48 but it says "for each other card' not "for each card" like Twilight Drake. Couldn't that be interpreted as if I had 4 cards in my hand it would only gain +2 as it would be counting every other card?
for those wondering, the new druid legendary spawns a new minion, the flame druid does become a 5/5, druid of the claw becomes a 4/6 taunt with charge, etc.
*Hearthstone Dev greets an artist as he enters his office.* Dev: Hello! Thank you for coming. I understand you have an idea for the card "Disciple of C'Thun?" Artist: I sure do! First, I was thinking let's make this guy a Pandaren. Because, you know, Pandaren are known to be around Silithus. Dev: I like it! Anything else!? Artist: Well, I have been kicking some major ass in Mortal Kombat as Raiden. He's just so cool with lightning coming out of his hands and--- *Dev interrupts the artist.* Dev: Stop! Your idea is incredible! You need to start drawling this right away. Here, take your payment in advance, with a bonus! *With that the artist ran out of the office with hands full of cash.*
Ben Brode stated that transform minions now have a third hybrid form of their transformations, having both stats and keywords. taunt and charge, with bonus health. stealth 3/2 with charge. Or a flat 5/5. And the choose effects go in order that they are printed on the card, dealing 5 damage, then doing 2 to all. He said it during the live stream card reveal.
For Staghelm they already said on stream that if the choose one card has a transform effect that they have made a third form which combines the two. They gave Flame as an example, as it DOES become a 5/5
1:27 On the reveal live stream they said about the Fandral Staghelm, that they have made a 3rd version of those "choose one" minions just because of that card :D
Fandral Staghelm activates both Choose One effects in the order in which they are written on the text. For example, an Ancient of War would get +5 attack and then +5 HP and Taunt, effectively turning into a 10/10 with Taunt. Druids work slightly differently. For example, a Druid of the Flame would gain +3 atk and then +3 HP, turning into a 5/5. A Druid of the Claw would gain charge and then +2 HP and taunt, turning into a 4/6 Taunt + Charge. They get the best stats of each form and the abilities of each form. Even spells are affected by this. For example, Feral Rage would grant your hero +4 atk and then give +8 armor. Not to shabby!
About that Druid Legendary... They said on stream that they have special "third" option for Choose one cards, which this card utilizes. So basically Druid of the Claw is a new 4/6 Taunt minion with charge.
To those wondering about how Fandral works (kripp seems to not have heard the news), cards like Druid of the Flame and Druid of the Claw become a brand new third form. Druid of the flame is a 5-5, druid of the claw is a 4-6 with charge + taunt.
1:49 If I'm not wrong they said that for the transform minions there will be a third transformation for Fandral effect that will metch the other 2 choices it's not that noob trap or like that, I think it's similiar to brann if it is on the board thing are going to happen
Fandral Staghelm: For cards like Druid of the Flame/Claw, you get the upside of both effects. Brode said in the stream that the cards use a 3rd form that gets both stat bonuses. Kripp must've missed that.
I really like the fact that you went quickly most people have played enough, or watched enough, hearthstone to know if the cards are good or not. Going quickly definitely a good idea.
For any wondering how Fandral interacts with Druid of the Flame and Claw: You'd get a 5/5 from Flame and a 4/6 charge taunt from Claw, as confirmed by Ben Brode during the stream yesterday.
Hey Kripp, as far as Fandral Staghelm (the new druid legendary) works out, Ben Brode said on stream that minions such as Druid of the Flame would have both of the "beneficial" versions combined and they would actually turn into a completely NEW, THIRD minion not otherwise selectable. So Druid of the Flame would have a new form where it is a 5/5 for 3 mana. Preeetty good!
It'll be interesting to see "choose one" decks built around Fandral Staghelm. The dream of turn 4 Fandral, turn 5 Druid of the Claw, turn 7 Ancient of War, and starfalls for board clear. Not sure how competitive, but it'll be fun to watch the highlight clips.
In the Live Stream they said for the transform 'Choose One' minions, they have made a combination creature it will now become. They also said the choose effects go in order of text.
They made an entire new set of versions (edit: I think they qualify as tokens) for "choose one" cards for when you get combined effects (with Fandral). At least that's what I understood from the stream.
Here's a list of the cards
0:30 Addled Grizzly
1:26 Fandral Staghelm
2:55 Feral Rage
4:25 Forbidden Ancient
4:59 Carrion Grub
5:50 Fiery Bat
6:46 Infested Wolf
7:32 On the Hunt
8:03 Anomalus
8:58 Cult Sorcerer
9:18 Shatter
10:12 A Light in the Darkness
11:03 Divine Strength
11:58 Rallying Blade
12:55 Selfless Hero
13:56 Darkshire Alchemist
14:50 Hooded Alcolyte
15:36 Power Word: Tentacles
16:55 Twilight Darkmender
17:24 Bladed Cultist
18:03 Blade of C'Thun
19:35 Journey Below
20:23 Shadow Strike
21:07 Southsea Squidface
21:58 Eternal Sentinel
23:09 Evolve
24:10 Flamewreathed Faceless
25:20 Primal Fusion
26:18 Stormcrack
27:07 Darkshire Councilman
28:16 Darkshire Librarian
28:32 Forbidden Ritual
29:32 Usher of Souls
29:52 Blood To Ichor
31:08 Bloodhoof Brave
32:23 Bloodsail Cultist
33:12 Malkorok
34:19 Aberrant Berserker
34:42 Am'gam Rager
34:49 Bilefin Tidehunter
35:54 Blackwater Pirate
36:40 Bog Creeper
37:37 Corrupted Seer
38:38 Crazed Worshipper
38:58 Cyclopian Horror
40:02 Darkspeaker
40:48 Disciple of C'Thun
41:20 Doomcaller
42:02 Duskboar
42:10 Eldritch Horror
42:24 Evolved Kobold
42:57 Faceless Behemoth
43:01 Grotesque Dragonhawk
43:36 Midnight Drake
43:50 Nat, the Darkfisher
44:20 Nerubian Prophet
45:15 Psych-O-Tron
45:45 Silithid Swarmer
46:11 Squirming Tentacle
46:25 Twilight Geomancer
46:56 Twin Emperor Vek'lor
47:05 Twin Emperor Vek'nilash
47:10 Twisted Worgen
47:32 Zealous Initiate
48:10 Dark Arakkoa
48:50 Princess Huhuran
50:23 Shifter Zerus
+TheChristmasCreeper Thanks!
thank you, kind soul
Thank you.
+TheChristmasCreeper Doing God's work, son.
Thx man appreciate it
53:07
+Skipperino Kripperino nice one, i missed the refresh
+Skipperino Kripperino Has anyone ever thought if Skipperino is actually Kripp himself, trolling everyone?
+Gyrmyth Yeah, kripp would make a 2nd unofficial account to help people to skip himself. Of course.
can you make a timestamp of every card?
+Skipperino Kripperino dont these long content vids without stream clips make you salty? when do you think the senpai will notice you? within the year?
Every card in this video.
DRUID-
Addled Grizzly 0:30
Fandral Staghelm 1:26
Feral Rage 2:55
Forbidden Ancient 4:26
Dark Arakkoa 48:09
HUNTER-
Carrion Grub 5:00
Fiery Bat 5:50
Infested Wolf 6:47
On the Hunt 7:34
Princess Huhuran 48:50
MAGE-
Anomalus 8:05
Cult Sorcerer 8:59
Shatter 9:18
PALADIN-
A Light in the Darkness 10:12
Divine Strength 11:04
Rallying Blade 11:58
Selfless Hero 12:57
PRIEST-
Darkshire Alchemist 13:57
Hooded Acolyte 14:50
Power Word: Tentacles 15:35
Twilight Darkmender 16:56
ROGUE-
Bladed Cultist 17:25
Blade of C'Thun 18:04
Journey Below 19:35
Shadow Strike 20:24
Southsea Squidface 20:59
SHAMAN-
Eternal Sentinel 21:58
Evolve 23:10
Flamewreathed Faceless 24:10
Primal Fusion 25:20
Stormcrack 26:19
WARLOCK-
Darkshire Councilman 27:07
Darkshire Libraian 28:17
Forbidden Ritual 28:33
Usher of Souls 29:33
WARRIOR-
Blood To Ichor 29:53
Bloodhoof Brave 31:09
Bloodsail Cultist 32:24
Malkorok 33:13
NEUTRAL-
Aberrant Berserker 34:20
Am'gam Rager (LOL) 34:45
Bilefin Tidehunter 34:51
Blackwater Priate 35:55
Bog Creeper 36:40
Corrupted Seer 37:38
Crazed Worshipper 38:38
Cyclopian Horror 39:00
Dark Speaker 40:03
Disciple of C'Thun 40:49
Doomcaller 41:20
Duskboar 42:02
Eldritch Horror 42:10
Evolved Kobold 42:25
Faceless Behemoth 42:58
Grotesque Dragonhawk 43:03
Midnight Drake 43:36
Nat, the Darkfisher 43:51
Nerubian Prophet 44:20
Psych-o-Tron 45:15
Silithid Swarmer 45:45
Squirming Tentacle 46:12
Twilight Geomancer 46:25
Twin Emperor Vek'lor & Vek'nilash 46:56
Twisted Worgen 47:11
Zealous Initiate 47:32
Shifter Zerus 50:24
so basically, nothing will see constructed play
+talha tariq Most c'thun related cards will. It's arguable how competetive these decks will be, but they will definitly be around. A lot. Because everyone wil have C'thun.
+talha tariq Ye
+talha tariq Welcome to Hearthstone.
Askus Pollo yup pretty much
+talha tariq alot of the cards announced yesterday were c'thun cards or vanilla/taunt cards which are usually only playable in arena
Spent 53 minutes watching this and I don't even play hearthstone.
Wow
+huldu the fck m8
+huldu Why do you even watch his channel???
+huldu y tho
Congratulations
who was at the stream watching him edit this video? FeelsGoodMan
+Thorn I was FeelsGoodMan /
ResidentSleeper Best Stream ResidentSleeper
Trump subs DansGame
Triggered by Trump emotes in 2016 LUL
Ewwwww it's thorn
It was confirmed in the livestream Kripp as an FYI that with Fandral Staghelm Druid of the claw and flame will be a 4/6 taunt with charge and a 5/5 respectively. They made separate art for those cards too which should be cool!
Just for clarification: Unlike what the Kripp says in the video, Forbidden Ancient has no synergy with Brann. Brann would just run the battlecry again, which would spend all your 0 mana and make it gain an additional +0/+0. Even Kripp The Great can make mistakes.
+masterplusmargarita That sounds more like Blizzard's terrible design choices tbh.
+ChrisCarTheMarauder
Don't see how. The battlecry says "Spend all your Mana." You spend it all the first time, and when Brann triggers it again, you have 0 mana to spend.
*****
Yeah, and that's fucking stupid. It should interact with Brann.
Why are you defending them?
ChrisCarTheMarauder
Why should it interact with Brann? How would you rephrase the effect so it does?
*****
You're right, it should remain shitty and never see play and get no synergy for the primary card for battlecry minions.
You're like the guy who nerfed Blade Flurry.
Finally, I can build a 30 murloc deck !!
Fuk u murloc enthusiast
talha tariq Racist
Murlerino Kripperino Murloc-ist
28:17 I misread "Discard" as "Discover" and I was seriously questioning my existence when Kripp said it was bad.
12:50 "In arena, you can't go wrong with weapons" -Kripp 2016
How good is cursed blade ? (December 27 2015)
"Cursed blade is this awful AWFUL card..." - Kripp 2015
Seems like you forgot somthing there Kripp, Kappa
Who else went "wtf" seeing Power Word: Tentacles
yeah hahahah
+JasonBFleece Power Word: Kreygasm
+JasonBFleece My reaction was closer to "dang it, this is too expensive to replace Velen's Chosen in any capacity."
+gigastrike2 It's not about the card's stats or mechanics, it's just about how fucked up it is having "Tentacles" as a power word.
Han Zhang Yeah, the joke was that my response was super dry.
Regarding Fandral's Choose one effects with transformed minions, Ben Brode stated in a livestream that there is now a 3rd transformation that combines the effects/stats of both transformed minions. E.G. Druid of the claw turns into a 4/6 taunt with charge, Druid of the flame turns into a 5/5 etc.
God bless 1.5 speed.
lol
+The marvelous dropper Why not 2?
+Sir Alphander
cause if you put it at 2x speed kripp will get whiplash
FeelsBadMan
+The marvelous dropper So much more hilarious at 0.5!
+The marvelous dropper I forgot that I set the speed to 1.5 for a while and thought Kripp was having a nervous breakdown
What about my new enemy Am'gam "Powercreeped" Rager ?!
+MagmaRagerino Kripperino finally a good counter to you. No more losing on turn 2 when opponent coins out you.
At least he has synergy with inner fire! hehe
+MagmaRagerino Kripperino You are strong that him, he can be mind controlled, but you cant, coz your will is unstoppable
+MagmaRagerino Kripperino will use the burned rager in a hobgoblin deck, ask ben brode for a 3 mana minion that increase the health of 1 life minion by 2.
The name "Am'gam rager" is so punny...
This was requested and i had time to waste
0:29 Addled Grizzly
1:26 Fandral Staghelm
2:55 Feral Rage
4:26 Forbidden Ancient
5:00 Carrion Grub
5:51 Fiery Bat
6:47 Infested Wolf
7:33 On the Hunt
8:04 Anomalus
8:59 Cult Sorcerer
9:18 Shatter
10:12 A Light in the Darkness
11:04 Divine Strength
11:58 Rallying Blade
12:56 Selfless Hero
13:57 Darkshire Alchemist
14:50 Hooded Acolyte
15:36 Power Word: Tentacles
16:56 TwilightDarkmender
17:25 Bladed Cultist
18:04 Blade of C'Thun
19:35 Journey Below
20:24 Shadow Strike
21:07 Southsea Squidface
21:58 Eternal Sentinel
23:09 Evolve
24:11 Flamewreathed Faceless
25:20 Primal Fusion
26:18 Stormcrack
27:07 Darkshire Councilman
28:17 Darkshire Librarian
28:33 Forbidden Ritual
29:33 Usher of Souls
29:53 Blood To Ichor
31:08 Bloodhoof Brave
32:24 Bloodsail Cultist
33:13 Malkorok
34:20 Aberrant Berserker
34:44 Am'gam Rager
34:51 Bilefin Tidehunter
35:55 Blackwater Pirate
36:40 Bog Creeper
37:39 Corrupted Seer
38:39 Crazed Worshipper
38:59 Cyclopian Horror
40:03 Darkspeaker
40:49 Disciple of C'Thun
41:20 Doomcaller
42:02 Duskboar
42:11 Eldritch Horror
42:25 Evolved Kobold
42:58 Faceless Behemoth
43:03 Grotesque Dragonhawk
43:36 Midnight Drake
43:51 Nat, the Darkfisher
44:21 Nerubian Prophet
45:15 Psych-o-Tron
45:46 Silithid Swarmer
46:12 Squirming Tentacle
46:25 Twilight Geomancer
46:57 Twin Emperor Vek'lor
47:11 Twisted Worgen
47:33 Zealous Initiate
48:09 Dark Arakkoa
48:51 Princess Huhuran
50:24 Shifter Zerus
....Never again.
+TheStonebrother And still nobody noticed FeelsBadMan
I want to see an Am'gam Ragerino but he has to be as dedicated and awesome as Magma Ragerino.
+Keine Ahnung I'm more awesome than him
kripp are old HE CANT AVALIATE CARDS MORE HE TALKING SHIT AFTER SHIT PASS ON NOXIUS AND SEE THE TRUTH
+Am'gamRagerino Kripperino next expansion they are gona add a 3 mana 2/5 because just like they did with ice rager probably would be called Ec'i rager
+Am'gamRagerino Kripperino I'm on your side bro, even I can take on a magma rager with no troubles.
+Keine Ahnung Dedicated and awesome as me*
There's a reason I usually mainly stick with Kripp evaluating the cards over anyone else. He really truly analyzes the cards not only situationally but with its interactions with other cards, both with mechanics I never thought of myself. There's been countless cards with this set that I initially though we're underwhelming until Kripp brings up situations and reasons why in fact a lot of these are strong. Good Stuff Kripp
as they said the transfrom card will have a new, third, form so yes druid of the flame is 5/5, druid of the claw will be 4/6 taunt and charge, acient of war will be 10/10 taunt etc... basically you get all the best aspects of each transformation
Please kripp slow down the fucking pace!
JUST CHILL , we can, and want to watch a 2 hour video!
Heyguyshow'sitgoingKripparianheregottagofastbeacsueIhavetoreviewabunchofcardswhichseemprettygoodIhopeyouguysenjoyedandI'llseeyouguystomorrow.
you can change the playback speed to 75%
+Ãngelo Tavares I watched at at 1.25 lol
+Natalie Schneider Always watch kripp at /at least/ 1.25.
And if he does that people will watch it at 2x speed again
Blizzards Balance Team: "Lets nerf Blade Flurry, as this will allow the design team to make some cool rogue weapons and weapon buffs".
Blizzards Design Team: "Lets not give rogue any weapons or direct buffs this expansion, because Blade Flurry would make these over powered".
Meanwhile, there was no communication between these teams.
34:40 when he skipped the rager card, I started laughing so hard.
just lil sometin on druid legendary staghelm , they actualy made a third form for all transform minions so yeah druids of the flame will be 5/5 for 3
+Pwnstar Wouldnt it be 7 7 ? i mean wasnt the stats combined?.
+Kripparrian 1:26 Ben Brode confirmed on stream that they designed Third Forms for minions with choose one / transform effects like Druid of the Flame
13:22 Turn 1: Selfless Hero // Turn 2: Coin + Steward of Darkshire + Trade SH // Turn 3: Magma Rager // Turn 4: Double "Duskboar" and snow ball....
Shadow Strike 3 mana deal 5 damage to Jaraxxus.
There's so many good C'Thun sinergy cards, that you could build Reno decks around it.
They clarified the double choose one effect, they created a third minion with both stats, its in the WoTG stream around 59 minutes
ancient of war, 10/10 taunt...
If you had seen the reveal video, Ben Brode explains exactly how Fandral Staghelm works with transform minions.
They have made a 3rd form that will have the advantages from both forms. 4/6 taunt "bear cat" and so on.
I mean...usually you don't need both effects(Druid of the claw), and sometimes it makes the card worse(ancient of war). So the only reasonable way to play it would be thaurissan - fandral - ancient of lore - Druid of the saber
Yes, having Fandral on board and playing a Choose One card like Druid of the Flame will give you combined stats (in this case a 5/5). Ben Brode mentioned on the stream that they made a third variant card for every one of these to reflect the new forms.
a 7/7^^
+wolfVFV What? I'm pretty sure it's still a 5/5 not a 7/7
+wolfVFV they said its 5/5. The card is originally a 2/2 Each choose one adds either +3 attack or +3 health. 2/2 + 3/3=5/5
1:54 the transform effects do make Druid of the flame, for example, a 5/5 and they actually made a new 'form' with its own art for each of these
Neat *click*
Did RUclips change it's video player U.I. again?
+sunny yang Yeah, and for once it actually looks a bit better
RedTruth I disagree.
+sunny yang yes
sunny yang
ok
17:39 "Can't combo on turn one" Oh, so I can't coin out two Bladed Cultists for two 2/3's on turn 1? FailFish
Yeah but it isn't guaranteed that you will go second
SHAMANS ARE GOING TO BE SOOOOOOO OP
- Said everyone before TGT released EleGiggle
The tools Shamans got in TGT are insane, Aggro shaman would be OP if it was any more consistent than it currently is. If the shaman gets the cards they want you can easily lose turn 3-4. Inconsistency keeps it in check though.
Ben Brode confirmed they made new forms for transform creatures that combines both the effects if you have Fandral Stagheln
New combo;Addled Grizzly + Force of Nature
Thats decent, but that 800 dust tho...
lol
+Renan Borelli yep
+Mazza Sounds golden FoN boooooys
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This is why i prefer Kripps card reviews over any other streamer. He gives you the most thorough incite on each card without any biased opinions. Cough* ....Amaz .....Cough*
Ben Brode has confirmed that Fandral Staghelm on minions will cause them to combine.
Druid of the Flame becomes a 5/5 for example
7/7
5 mana 4/6 taunt charge damn
+SkipTheSparrow ok, i'm not sure what you wrote qualifies as an explanation.
take druid of the claw. if it both gains *charge* and gains *+2 health and taunt*, it is a 4/6 taunt with charge. obviously.
(same with ancient of war, a 10/10 taunt, etc.)
but if druid of the flame both transforms into a 2/5 and transforms into a 5/2... that doesn't even make sense! (if it was a 2/2 and said choose one - gain 3 attack or 3 health, that would be understandable. maybe they'll change its wording.)
+theantimatter Ben himself said that it will transform into a 5\5, and will be a completely different minion. See their "Whisper of the old gods live stream" stream VOD on HS official channel.
+NIKENITIUS ok, i'll check. thanks ^_^
For Staghelm it was clarified on stream that the transform minions will each be given a new third form to transform into that combines the best effects of both choices. For example, Druid of the Claw will be a 4/6 minion with both charge and taunt, Druid of the Saber will be a 3/2 minion with both charge and stealth, and Druid of the Flame will be a 5/5 minion.
Dang i thought this video was on 1.25x speed.
nope just kripp spitting bars faster than Eminem
34:42
BEST card breakdown of all time. Incredible work!
46:11 Kripparian forgets that there is class that is called a "druid"....
Wouldn't that swarmer at 45:54 also work in Druid decks in addition to Rogue, since their hero power lets them attack as well?
yes but it would suck
“Life's not about how hard of a hit you can give... it's about how many you can take, and still keep moving forward.”
― Sylvester Stallone, Rocky Balboa
A headsup for those that didn't watch the reveal stream. Fandral Staghelm transform the choose one minions into a third form with special name and art. For example, Druid of the claw becomes a 4/6 taunt with charge. The effects happens in the order they are written so the left option happens first and then the right one.
I feel like after dr boom/challenger people are so scared to call a card straight up bad
About transform effects with the Fandral.
Ben Brode said that BOTH effect will take place, and actually that there are a bunch of NEW ARTS and NEW SOUNDS for the combined effect. ALL Choose One - transform will basically now have a THIRD option that they will transform to only if Fandral is in the board.
Frecking cool.
Who watched kripp edit this shit for 3 hours
With Fandral Staghelm the minions that transform get the stats that are best over all so Druid of the flame will be 5/5 minion, Druid of the claw will be a 4/6 with taunt, and charge and so on. This was confirmed by Ben Brode in the stream which was on 21st of April, he also said that they made new card art for when these minions get both options.
I'm so excited for my favorite class to get these great cards. Shamans get some good good lovin!!
totems , totems evvriwheeeere!
+TheGreatRakatan Flamewreathed faceless is the Blue eyes white dragon of hearthstone
+TheGreatRakatan Seriously though shaman is OP now with all the new cards. Kinda ridiculous compared to all the other releases
+TheGreatRakatan halleluja, I have 3 shaman decks that I have used at one point or another and each of them will be come strictly and significantly better. This should be fun
+12Rman21 is reincarnate shaman dead.
41:45 - Doomcaller.
If C'Thun gets milled it surely won't go into your deck? If you mill Old Murk Eye it doesn't get summoned in Any-fin, correct?
+Scott Kemp I believe you're correct.
+Brad O'Neil don't think the card will see play anyway, but they couldn't have perhaps worded it slightly better :)
Scott Kemp Now that i think about it. The wording is fine. Deathrattles don't go off on mills so they didn't die. I agree that it won't see play though.
17:40
I haven't scrolled through the comments, so someone may have already said this, but Ben Brode on twitter (possibly on the stream) said that there is now an added 3rd transform that is a combination of the choose one cards.
So DotC becomes a 4/6 charge with taunt, AoW becomes a 10/10 taunt and the 3 mana DotF becomes a 5/5. It also applies to your choose one spells as well allowing for some interesting effects with Raven Idol or the new choose one spell.
hey kripp. nice shirt
+MinesAndDesigns chin
+MinesAndDesigns Hisss
Who is Leafy?
+MinesAndDesigns GO AWAY
+MinesAndDesigns Dude, how dare u put normal comments here!
I really liked the deep analysis of the Am`gam Rager!
4:28 I don't think it is going to work with brann, he will activate the battlecry use ur 9 crystal and become a 10-10 then he will activate the battlecry again but u have already spent all your mana and will add 0-0
Ben Brode said on the stream that with Fandral Staghelm, a third minion is created for choose one transform effects(i.e. Druid of the flame and Druid of the Claw). So you will get a 5/5 or a 4/6 taunt charge.
please make a tavern brawl where it's just shifter zerus's... that'd be so sick.
~4:50 I think Brann will not work as you said. It will spend all your mana again, but at this point there is no more mana to spend ;)
Definitely not giving Fendral enough credit. Even Raven Idol turns into draw 2.
I hope Kripp gives us a more extensive review on these cards based on class and neutrals. He just misses a lot of interactions.
Turns out its preeetttttyyy goood!
Every streamer ever: "too slow" for every card
RAVEN ITS THE STRONGER LEGENDARY OF THE EXPANSION HES AWESOME
"Duskboar, 2 mana 4/1 beast. Okay we're done"
54 CARDS?! *gets popcorn*
Divine Strength - "We couldn't think of anything, so we made a Magic The Gathering card."
Bladed Cultist - "Coin, have two 2/3's."
Flamewreathed Faceless - Turn 4 7/7, Turn 5 "have enough mana to play rockbiter and windfury, insta 20 damage"
They said on stream that Fandral Staghelm with for example druid of the flame will get a third transformation. So a 3 mana 5/5
+Daniel Karlsson damn that is crazy good
Patrick Bartash Yeah, and druid of the claw will be 4/6 with taunt and charge.
Kripp: "Can you combo on turn 1? Not really. That's really hard to do."
Oh yes, tell us how playing a coin is really hard to do. Or coin + 1-drop + this card.
omg watch this on 0.5 he looks sooo fucking high rolforlfolrofl
About 1:48, Blizzard confirmed in their reveal stream that the minions with transfrom effects will get a 3rd form for that case which combines both stat buffs, so that druid of the claw becomes a 4/6 Taunt with charge.
In arena last week, I used Black Knight on a silverback patriarch. Which is maybe the worst target for him in the game, but I won :)
goldshire footman pogchamp
+Lucas Kenzou Target dummy
+alaineman fair enough. Still felt weird using it
+Ian Nutter a wild comment appears!
+Ian Nutter That poor TriHard
I'm sure lots of other people have posted this but just in case it was missed - Ben Brode said on stream that there are new druid forms for the cards where you 'Choose One' into a specific create. Druid of the Flame becomes a 5/5 and druid of the claw is a 4/6 with charge and taunt
divine shield paladins? time craft some bloodknights
43:48 but it says "for each other card' not "for each card" like Twilight Drake. Couldn't that be interpreted as if I had 4 cards in my hand it would only gain +2 as it would be counting every other card?
Cyclopian Horror really reminds me of Celia from Monsters Inc.
yup
for those wondering, the new druid legendary spawns a new minion, the flame druid does become a 5/5, druid of the claw becomes a 4/6 taunt with charge, etc.
Coin, Bladed Cultist, Bladed Cultist. Win.
*Hearthstone Dev greets an artist as he enters his office.*
Dev: Hello! Thank you for coming. I understand you have an idea for the card "Disciple of C'Thun?"
Artist: I sure do! First, I was thinking let's make this guy a Pandaren. Because, you know, Pandaren are known to be around Silithus.
Dev: I like it! Anything else!?
Artist: Well, I have been kicking some major ass in Mortal Kombat as Raiden. He's just so cool with lightning coming out of his hands and---
*Dev interrupts the artist.*
Dev: Stop! Your idea is incredible! You need to start drawling this right away. Here, take your payment in advance, with a bonus!
*With that the artist ran out of the office with hands full of cash.*
kripp I watched the entire wotg stream and ben said transform cards will have a third form and druid of the flame will be a 5 5
only with the "your choose one cards combine effects" (or something along those lines) card in play
Ben Brode stated that transform minions now have a third hybrid form of their transformations, having both stats and keywords. taunt and charge, with bonus health. stealth 3/2 with charge. Or a flat 5/5. And the choose effects go in order that they are printed on the card, dealing 5 damage, then doing 2 to all. He said it during the live stream card reveal.
"You play Evolve" Silly kripp, no one plays Evolve anymore
I really liked the deep analysis of the Am`gam Rager! 34:42
"One full mana crystal less!" As opposed to one half mana crystal?
+Dieter Gaudlitz No. "One full mana crystal" as opposed to one empty mana crystal like Wild Growth gives you.
You're welcome.^^
For Staghelm they already said on stream that if the choose one card has a transform effect that they have made a third form which combines the two. They gave Flame as an example, as it DOES become a 5/5
Hey why'd you skip over Am'gam rager :(
4:50 is there synergy with bran? cause you cant spend youre mana twice right?
Have you even watched the LIVESTREAM Kripp my god you are so wrong on so many cards.
1:27 On the reveal live stream they said about the Fandral Staghelm, that they have made a 3rd version of those "choose one" minions just because of that card :D
Fandral Staghelm activates both Choose One effects in the order in which they are written on the text. For example, an Ancient of War would get +5 attack and then +5 HP and Taunt, effectively turning into a 10/10 with Taunt. Druids work slightly differently. For example, a Druid of the Flame would gain +3 atk and then +3 HP, turning into a 5/5. A Druid of the Claw would gain charge and then +2 HP and taunt, turning into a 4/6 Taunt + Charge. They get the best stats of each form and the abilities of each form. Even spells are affected by this. For example, Feral Rage would grant your hero +4 atk and then give +8 armor. Not to shabby!
And Raven Idol you discover both
About that Druid Legendary...
They said on stream that they have special "third" option for Choose one cards, which this card utilizes. So basically Druid of the Claw is a new 4/6 Taunt minion with charge.
They said on stream how Fandral staghelm would work with Transform Minions. theyve made a new Minion/token for each of those cards.
Was gonna comment this, guess he didn't watch the twich
To those wondering about how Fandral works (kripp seems to not have heard the news), cards like Druid of the Flame and Druid of the Claw become a brand new third form. Druid of the flame is a 5-5, druid of the claw is a 4-6 with charge + taunt.
1:49 If I'm not wrong they said that for the transform minions there will be a third transformation for Fandral effect that will metch the other 2 choices
it's not that noob trap or like that, I think it's similiar to brann if it is on the board thing are going to happen
Fandral Staghelm: For cards like Druid of the Flame/Claw, you get the upside of both effects. Brode said in the stream that the cards use a 3rd form that gets both stat bonuses. Kripp must've missed that.
I really like the fact that you went quickly most people have played enough, or watched enough, hearthstone to know if the cards are good or not. Going quickly definitely a good idea.
For any wondering how Fandral interacts with Druid of the Flame and Claw: You'd get a 5/5 from Flame and a 4/6 charge taunt from Claw, as confirmed by Ben Brode during the stream yesterday.
Hey Kripp, just so you know, cards like druid of the flame would become a 5/5. Ben Brode mentioned it yesterday on stream
it was nice seeing you edit it! (I came here to see the cards you forgot to record lol)
Hey Kripp, as far as Fandral Staghelm (the new druid legendary) works out, Ben Brode said on stream that minions such as Druid of the Flame would have both of the "beneficial" versions combined and they would actually turn into a completely NEW, THIRD minion not otherwise selectable. So Druid of the Flame would have a new form where it is a 5/5 for 3 mana. Preeetty good!
It'll be interesting to see "choose one" decks built around Fandral Staghelm. The dream of turn 4 Fandral, turn 5 Druid of the Claw, turn 7 Ancient of War, and starfalls for board clear. Not sure how competitive, but it'll be fun to watch the highlight clips.
In the Live Stream they said for the transform 'Choose One' minions, they have made a combination creature it will now become. They also said the choose effects go in order of text.
Druid of the claw will be 4/6 with charge.
Druid of the claw will be 4/6 with charge.
Alexander Aramaki I mean yeah that's obvious.
Godrekefalcer DotF will be 5/5
YEAH I SAW IT
They made an entire new set of versions (edit: I think they qualify as tokens) for "choose one" cards for when you get combined effects (with Fandral). At least that's what I understood from the stream.
Kripp: "Freezing is kind of difficult to do!"
Freeze cards: Frost Bolt, Ice Lance, Water Elemental, Ice Elemental, Blizzard, Cone of Cold, Ice Nova
45:45 Silithid Swarmer am i wrong to say this also would work in druid?
i meant opponent sorry not enemy LUL
+InfernoIrfan ya I realized right after I wrote it that for the tempo gain it's actually slower in druid.