It’s so funny how everyone is marveled at the ‘low’ numbers.......your S3 made good numbers for a mustang dyno. It’s not a heartbreaker dyno it’s an accurate valid and reliable dyno. And the increases were decent as well. Man I remember when my beard was like that my wife hated it. I’m growing it again.
Would have liked to see a dyno run after the intake install, before the DSG or stage 1. Btw, that dyno run right after the stage 1 would be pointless. The ECU hasn’t had chance to adapt. It’s like if you replace the battery - emissions fail for a few days and it stinks of gas - it’s because the ECU is adapting. The same thing after a flash. Wait 48 hours with normal driving and check it then vs straight after the flashes. Surprised 034 didn’t bring this up.
Dude how is the audi sooooo clean, like aside from this beautiful dyno masterpiece, all I noticed was how glossy it looked. I'm so jealous haha, can you come detail my baby for me!!
Hey Blake, as usual, great video and relevant info. Being on a Mustang Dyno, your numbers are lower as I expected. Taking this in consideration to a DynoJet, I'll say most tunes on Stage 1 are not far off from one another. My JB4 with intake/exhaust spin the wheel at 292/331 which corrected, would be comparable to your figures.
sajsed2 I didn’t do a dyno as I just ordered the intake and installed it at home - March 2017 on my 2016 S3. To be honest, I did notice the car felt better, sounded better (I left that plate off) and ran cooler. Is holding up fine even now. Literally had to clean that filter once in almost 3 years. I’d say it’s worth it.
You forgot to mention the mustang dyno are rated to show u around 25% less horsepower It’s a know fact mustang dyno always read lower DynoJet read 15-20% higher So with mustang dyno u got 230HP x 0.25% ( that it read lower ) = 57.5Hp = 287.5Hp and stock audi rated at 290HP correct? So it’s pretty close to their stock dyno reading of the s3
Dyno a brake horsepower is different. A roll of thumb for all-wheel drive is subtract 20% of your engines horsepower to get your horsepower at the wheels
I'm a bit curious as to why yours stock numbers are so low you should be at about 270 whp stock and just over 300whp with a tune I've got a 2015 s3 and mine made 269whp bone stock an I went with apr stage 1 with apr carbon fiber intake haven't been on dyno yet with stage 1 must have been hot where you are
Awesome buddy as always! Stage 2 I'm guessing is a DP? I've never dealt with 034 Motorsports but they definitely make some quality parts! Looking forward to seeing what a custom tune will yield, hopefully more than my wrx🤣🤣🤣
Brian G, this car is turbocharged, no pulleys to swap like a supercharged car. Maybe your thinking of the b8/b8.5 S4. I have a '12 S4 stage 2, supercharger pulley, Borla, and intake. It should put down around 375 hp to the wheels.
crispsum Lol I know it's turbocharged, Blake said he's planning on a stage 2 in the future...a "DP" is an abbreviation for the word downpipe. I'm confused by your reply. Hope you have a great rest of your day ✌
I don't understand how the tcu tune resulted in an increase in torque or mid range HP. Can someone explain that? Never heard a tuner claim that a TCU tune could do that either. Usually it's stuff like optimized shift points, increased clamping pressure, adjustable launch control, etc.
I'm considering going straight to a stage 2 tune, have you had any reliability issues and is the power too much for a daily driver? if so I might just do a stage 1+
These numbers seem like quite a let down tbh. I have yet to drive an S3 or honestly any other Audi than my 034 stage 1+ B8 S4, but this seems like it's gonna be CONSIDERABLY slower than my current car. I very much like quick accelerations leaving stop signs/red lights, and the casual punch on the highway, and I feel that this car will leave me wanting more..am I right?
@@joshualopez6464 We spent the day at the drag strip yesterday and handed it to a few S3's, i was quite dissapointed by there performance. I see now why people call them upgraded Jettas. I also got my dream job like a month after this comment so RS5 is on order already, just waiting for the call 😁😁
Can this tune be put on a smaller car, I want to buy a golf and I want to put some sort of tune on it to make a bit more power but obviously not too much because idk if it’s good for the engine, I might end up putting a tsi in it so then I could do stage 2 but for the time being what is possible with a stock 4 cylinder
Blake's Garage awesome, thanks I’m hoping I can get a tdi. 1 more question for you if I were to do the tune at home, do I have to pay for the software?
no, the premium plus 2017-20 has the analog "upgraded cluster", only the prestige and tech package has the digital cluster....many people like myself prefer the classy look of the S3 analog cluster
It’s amazing how much powetrain loss AWD and a dual clutch have. Those whp numbers mean it’s probably putting out 320 bhp. My golf has about the same whp, and it’s most likely 290-300 at the crank. But it’s manual and fwd, so minimal powertrain loss. Of course the dual clutch and awd translate into a faster car
Watch the whole video. If you don't know Dyno numbers are subjective then I don't know what to tell ya. It's all about the delta between stock and the new tune. Factory numbers are at the crank.
Make 330WHP with a 2015+ WRX. With a dyno tune and a couple parts. Trying to decide if I should buy my wife a s3.... How far can you push these cars? Is there parts available for audi like subaru?
Calling BS on those numbers unless you are on e85 . What kind of dyno ? "Couple of parts" a buddy of mine had a 2013 wrx with a tune and couple of parts . Made 265 on a mustang. 93 pump gas.
@@MrJjburgess11 a 2013 com'on bro you just answered your own question.. And it all in the tuner. TMIC with Jpipe. 330HP all day.. Thats what I ran before I was on E. Now I'm at 380HP on E45.
I love the videos. Keep up the great work. I own a 2017 S3 and it's an amazing machine. I'm too much of a pussy to upgrade mine, so i'm gonna live vicariously through you, ok... lol
Or a full comparison of stock power Vs stage 1 Vs Stage 1 TCU tune Vs carbon intake install tons of information that no-one else has taken the time to post actual results before and after.
@@scotfever that would be extremely challenging, as the number you refer to is considered "at the crank". Meaning the engine produces x HP on a test bench.
@@BlakesGarage Its not dude. US version of the S3 are Underpowerd. All New S3 's in the UK come with 310 bhp stock. in the US there 283hp stock. think it has something to do with emissions.
@@undisputedtruth2075 yes, it has to do with German emissions, and the crank HP for a stock S3 is actually more like 330+. Stock S3's are a bit faster than stock 2016-17 Mustang 5.0's in the quarter mile that have 420 HP.
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I hate it when a youtuber like you doesnt get the subscribers in relative to you views. Keep it up. You are great
Thanks Ashton
I dont get it neither
It’s so funny how everyone is marveled at the ‘low’ numbers.......your S3 made good numbers for a mustang dyno. It’s not a heartbreaker dyno it’s an accurate valid and reliable dyno. And the increases were decent as well. Man I remember when my beard was like that my wife hated it. I’m growing it again.
Yeah it’s a pretty decent increase over the stock curve
Would have liked to see a dyno run after the intake install, before the DSG or stage 1.
Btw, that dyno run right after the stage 1 would be pointless. The ECU hasn’t had chance to adapt. It’s like if you replace the battery - emissions fail for a few days and it stinks of gas - it’s because the ECU is adapting. The same thing after a flash. Wait 48 hours with normal driving and check it then vs straight after the flashes. Surprised 034 didn’t bring this up.
A brilliant, high quality, in depth video. Thank you!
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed
Great video! I was really surprised by the low stock numbers. Why the 034 tune? Why not Unitronic or APR?
weird cause stock a S3 is 293hp
@@maximebouthillier96 could be numerous variables to cause that. Elevation is one.
@@maximebouthillier96 also, that 293 is at the crank, not the wheels. The numbers pulled in this video are at the wheels.
@@johnsonjeremiah74 true totally forgot that !
Dude how is the audi sooooo clean, like aside from this beautiful dyno masterpiece, all I noticed was how glossy it looked. I'm so jealous haha, can you come detail my baby for me!!
Are you worried about a TD1 now with a tune?
I'll be interested to see if you have any reliability issues or concerns, I can't justify throwing my powertrain warranty out for a tune just yet.
Llama052 40k mike's all good do it!
Hey Blake, as usual, great video and relevant info. Being on a Mustang Dyno, your numbers are lower as I expected. Taking this in consideration to a DynoJet, I'll say most tunes on Stage 1 are not far off from one another. My JB4 with intake/exhaust spin the wheel at 292/331 which corrected, would be comparable to your figures.
So I didn’t catch the total number difference? Looked like 26 hp and 60 tq ? If so this should drop 0 to 60 about .2 in time not bad
what front lip is that again? thanks
Should have done a dyno with new in take with out tune then a dyno after tune to see if the We take is really worth it
sajsed2 I didn’t do a dyno as I just ordered the intake and installed it at home - March 2017 on my 2016 S3. To be honest, I did notice the car felt better, sounded better (I left that plate off) and ran cooler. Is holding up fine even now. Literally had to clean that filter once in almost 3 years. I’d say it’s worth it.
Hows that whp that low? stock GTIs get close to 250 whp bone stock.
You forgot to mention the mustang dyno are rated to show u around 25% less horsepower
It’s a know fact mustang dyno always read lower
DynoJet read 15-20% higher
So with mustang dyno u got 230HP x 0.25% ( that it read lower ) = 57.5Hp = 287.5Hp and stock audi rated at 290HP correct? So it’s pretty close to their stock dyno reading of the s3
290 flywheel factory
I thought the s3 had over 300hp stock? I’m confused
Dyno a brake horsepower is different. A roll of thumb for all-wheel drive is subtract 20% of your engines horsepower to get your horsepower at the wheels
No sir. S3 doesn’t come with 300+hp factory until 2021. Every other year ranges 288-292
I second what @garyh3123 said.
Nice, excited to see what it runs!
What song did you use for background?
I'm a bit curious as to why yours stock numbers are so low you should be at about 270 whp stock and just over 300whp with a tune I've got a 2015 s3 and mine made 269whp bone stock an I went with apr stage 1 with apr carbon fiber intake haven't been on dyno yet with stage 1 must have been hot where you are
It’s hot. I have 91 oct and we were on the dream killer mustang dyno they read low. It’s more about the gains in the deltas than just the number.
Blake's Garage oh ok makes sense yea I'm on 93 Oct an most dynos read low idek why but your s3 is still dope keep making vids bro
Hey blake so I’m thinking of getting Unitronic stage 1 software, how reliable is it ? Since have had it for sometime now.
I had absolutely no issues loved it.
Awesome buddy as always! Stage 2 I'm guessing is a DP? I've never dealt with 034 Motorsports but they definitely make some quality parts! Looking forward to seeing what a custom tune will yield, hopefully more than my wrx🤣🤣🤣
Brian G, this car is turbocharged, no pulleys to swap like a supercharged car. Maybe your thinking of the b8/b8.5 S4. I have a '12 S4 stage 2, supercharger pulley, Borla, and intake. It should put down around 375 hp to the wheels.
crispsum Lol I know it's turbocharged, Blake said he's planning on a stage 2 in the future...a "DP" is an abbreviation for the word downpipe. I'm confused by your reply. Hope you have a great rest of your day ✌
Brian G sorry man! DP in S4 world means dual pulley. Too many acronyms, I can't keep up! My apologies😉
crispsum All good! I agree too many acronyms👍😎
I don't understand how the tcu tune resulted in an increase in torque or mid range HP. Can someone explain that?
Never heard a tuner claim that a TCU tune could do that either. Usually it's stuff like optimized shift points, increased clamping pressure, adjustable launch control, etc.
The ECU and TCU limited torque output via the TCU map
@@BlakesGarage interesting. I guess that's a protection mechanism they have in the stock TCU software
I'm considering going straight to a stage 2 tune, have you had any reliability issues and is the power too much for a daily driver? if so I might just do a stage 1+
Do it! It’s not too much. It actually just makes me think should have got an RS3 lol
Blake's Garage any reliability issues and have you done the intercooler yet also?
5 year update from both?@@AA_F1GT
These numbers seem like quite a let down tbh. I have yet to drive an S3 or honestly any other Audi than my 034 stage 1+ B8 S4, but this seems like it's gonna be CONSIDERABLY slower than my current car. I very much like quick accelerations leaving stop signs/red lights, and the casual punch on the highway, and I feel that this car will leave me wanting more..am I right?
The S3 weighs 600 pounds less and has launch control and no it’s pulls very hard
@@joshualopez6464 We spent the day at the drag strip yesterday and handed it to a few S3's, i was quite dissapointed by there performance. I see now why people call them upgraded Jettas.
I also got my dream job like a month after this comment so RS5 is on order already, just waiting for the call 😁😁
@@Snail2Gcool story bro
Can this tune be put on a smaller car, I want to buy a golf and I want to put some sort of tune on it to make a bit more power but obviously not too much because idk if it’s good for the engine, I might end up putting a tsi in it so then I could do stage 2 but for the time being what is possible with a stock 4 cylinder
Yeah they do anything VW or Audi with a turbo and you can make great power with the new TDI! I just drove one at they’re great 👍🏼
Blake's Garage awesome, thanks I’m hoping I can get a tdi. 1 more question for you if I were to do the tune at home, do I have to pay for the software?
Get a GTi, they make great power with a tune
I’m confused by this like it’s an S3 right? How is it making that low numbers in stock?
Wheel horsepower mustang dyno very low reading.
Why do u still have the analog cluster in 2017 model? That should have been digital
That’s a 3500 dollar upgrade for the virtual cockpit
no, the premium plus 2017-20 has the analog "upgraded cluster", only the prestige and tech package has the digital cluster....many people like myself prefer the classy look of the S3 analog cluster
It’s amazing how much powetrain loss AWD and a dual clutch have. Those whp numbers mean it’s probably putting out 320 bhp. My golf has about the same whp, and it’s most likely 290-300 at the crank. But it’s manual and fwd, so minimal powertrain loss. Of course the dual clutch and awd translate into a faster car
Dsg doesn’t have that much drivetrain loss, it’s more in the differentials and haldex clutch i assume.
what about your car warenty ? did the tune void it ?
I'd bet that it can easily be flashed back to stock before taking it in for service.
Yes but if I’m not mistaken they can read the computer and see stats before and after the tune, I wouldn’t do it if I were you.
Hmmm that number seems too low. Stock MK7 GTIs will dyno higher than that at the wheels...
So all that for 20 more hp?
Around 26hp. Thats just peak. He picked up power throughout the power band. Thats what makes the car faster. Plus 60 lbs of torque
You should definitely change the exhaust! Atleast throw bigger dp in there.
DP coming soon. Video will be up this week.
are your brakes glowing at 5:43?
Definitely looks like they are glowing.
I think that’s a reflection from the red gas cans near buy. I hope they aren’t glowing.
oh...you might be right. I see the red can at 5:59.
Y is ur s3 only putting out that amount of power stock?? Here in the uk our s3 have 300bhp stock
Rs3 is what im thinking about getting. Or my 06-08 4.2 RS4
Yeah definitely get the RS3 if you want an Audi or just get an M Car for even more fun.
Can’t find the stage 1 review
Didn’t have one I went straight to stage 2 the same day but did dyno numbers to show the differences in the stage 2 video.
Do you hahe the video of stage 2 in the dyno? Y just put my stage 2 s3 into the dyno and is making 329 Whp Giac Tiñune)
Gunna guess the "standard" 20% drivetrain loss of AWD.. 290 - 20% (58) = 232
hahah within 1 pt :p
Yeah 20% parasitic loss is standard for AWD it may even be more. It ain’t no 2.5 5 cyl RS3 but it’s still a VERY good engine.
What song is in the intro?
Led Zeppelin No Quarter
It’s amazing how much powertrain
Ahhh Yes! Carbon fiber
I love seeing a tune with no added horsepower
Watch the whole video. If you don't know Dyno numbers are subjective then I don't know what to tell ya. It's all about the delta between stock and the new tune. Factory numbers are at the crank.
What did you expect from a stage 1 ? He got around 30 hp and 60tq .
The disappointment dyno
Lol , my stock s3 has 300hp , can't wait to stage 1... 🤟💀
ya i dont know why he on'y got 235on dyno 😭😂
Make 330WHP with a 2015+ WRX. With a dyno tune and a couple parts. Trying to decide if I should buy my wife a s3.... How far can you push these cars? Is there parts available for audi like subaru?
Yeah lots of parts from 034 Motorsports. Great cars 10x better than a Subaru get rid of the Subaru before you end up having to rebuild an engine.
Calling BS on those numbers unless you are on e85 . What kind of dyno ? "Couple of parts" a buddy of mine had a 2013 wrx with a tune and couple of parts . Made 265 on a mustang. 93 pump gas.
@@MrJjburgess11 a 2013 com'on bro you just answered your own question.. And it all in the tuner. TMIC with Jpipe. 330HP all day.. Thats what I ran before I was on E. Now I'm at 380HP on E45.
@@SimonPhoenix2022 you need to state that in the comments lol. This guy is running 91 piss gas. So its comparing apples to oranges .
@@MrJjburgess11 I agree but I also have a 91 map that is mustang dyno 330HP to the wheels.
I actually guessed 1hp off 😂
I love the videos. Keep up the great work. I own a 2017 S3 and it's an amazing machine. I'm too much of a pussy to upgrade mine, so i'm gonna live vicariously through you, ok... lol
Why was the hp only 256 the car makes 290-300
Lets say 230 stock
Worse fuel economy, clutch and flywheel issues down the track. Leave it stock guys, already a fast car.
Congrats you managed to turn 30 seconds of information into a eight minute video.
Or a full comparison of stock power Vs stage 1 Vs Stage 1 TCU tune Vs carbon intake install tons of information that no-one else has taken the time to post actual results before and after.
bye bye warranty....
230HP stock? why is it so low its supposed to be 310hp stock
Wheel horsepower
@@BlakesGarage Wouldnt it make sense to keep to the HP everyone else refers too? otherwise it just gets confusing for no reason
@@scotfever that would be extremely challenging, as the number you refer to is considered "at the crank". Meaning the engine produces x HP on a test bench.
@@BlakesGarage Its not dude. US version of the S3 are Underpowerd. All New S3 's in the UK come with 310 bhp stock. in the US there 283hp stock. think it has something to do with emissions.
@@undisputedtruth2075 yes, it has to do with German emissions, and the crank HP for a stock S3 is actually more like 330+. Stock S3's are a bit faster than stock 2016-17 Mustang 5.0's in the quarter mile that have 420 HP.
Numbers are too low for such a pricy little Audi! Needs stage 3 and beyond!