They need to get rid of the actor who plays Ned Leeds and this MJ because these are not the correct MJ or Ned leads at all in the comics. Ned Leeds is not a fat black kid, and MJ is not a black teenager-she's a redheaded white chick!
I feel like MJ and Ned should probably just go away for a few movies and let peter settle into his spiderman persona and focus on cultivating new friendships and relationships. Then possibly bring them back down the line
End of Peter is an interesting description, which it's most likely the case that Peter will mainly be Spiderman for a big portion of his screen time, and any sort of stuff with Peter not being Spiderman will be small screentime wise
That's why I think Spiderman should get the black suit in Doomsday because in the 4th Spiderman, that suit can build off that loneliness. That can be the theme of the entire movie loneliness. That's why Venom will be a great villain in Spider man 4 ( Sony Japan spoiled it) because Venom died in the third one. we can see Eddie struggling without him. Then, in a dark scene Finding Peter through the daily bugle and taking the suit, making this venom a true villain.
@@manxdarcqpaw744 amy pascal have confirmed this the biggest mistake we did was to not have spiderman inn ssu littery she said it. Now are focus is only on tom holland spiderman, beyond the spiderverse and noir and we will never do a villian movie without spiderman again. So sony did learn but to late for there own univers atleast they deleted that univers now
Except that most of the time the heroes DO TRIUMPH over adversity and survive. Movie studios do see the point, and your statement is completely invalid and wrong. Why you even said this is beyond me, you're the one who doesn't get it. But, who cares what you think anyway.
I still don't understand how she is in anyway involved. She left Sony but they still have her involved? I never understood how she could work that deal.
What villains do I want? of them!!!! I would like to see Mr. Negative. I would like a Gang War of some kind involving Tombstone, Hammerhead, Silvermane, Kingpin, The Rose, Black Tarantula, The Owl, Hobgoblin. I would like the Jackal and a nod to a potential Clone Saga film. I would like the Smythes and their Spider-Slayers. I would like The Scorpion (finally). I would like to see some secondary characters like White Tiger, Black Cat, Puma, Nocturne, Batwing, Bluebird, Agent Venom, Speedball, Silver Sable, Hobie Brown's Prowler, Nightwatch, Rocket Racer, Solo, Cardiac, Paladin, Chance, Coldheart, Poison, Corona, Delilah, The Slingers; Prodigy, Hornet, Dusk & Ricocet. Personally... what I would love to see.... I want a new Norman Osborn. I know the Norman from No Way Home said he looked and couldn't fine any trace of a Norman in this universe. That's an easy fix. Norman was crossing into top secret research so the government whisked him away, erased his existence and put his ex-wife and son Harry into witness protection. Then when the snap happened, he was freed but realized he had to operate off the radar. So instead of "Oscorp", he assumed the role of Tyler Stone and created Alchemax. Alchemax would be the new Oscorp. And Kingpin would fund Alchemax for all sorts of programs to help take down vigilantes of which a whole floor or two would be dedicated to Spider-man. For that they would have robotics experts like Mendell Stromm, Otto Octavius (or Olivia Octavius), Phineas Mason and Spencer and Alistair Smythe. They would have genetic experts like Miles Warren, Michael Morbius and Farley Stillwell that have a team dedicated to trying to find trace DNA of Spider-man. On top of potentially cloning Peter, they could work with Damage Control to "acquire" alien samples of the Outriders and use that to clone them and create the Dopplegangers. They could create a mutagen that transforms Peter into Man-Spider. If I were Sony.... instead of making films about characters and not being able to have Spider-man in them, I would work out a deal with Disney for a Disney plus series called "Tangled Web" where each episode could be devoted to an origin story of a Spider-man related character. I can have (but doesn't have to) Spider-man in it or culminate to a conclusion whereby Spider-man could just be reserved for the final episode. Tangled Web season 1 could explore flashbacks for Norman and his return to power to creating Alchemax and each episode could be him assembling the "professionals" to fill his lab with. Tangled Web season 2 could explore the secondary characters and perhaps The Game storyline whereby many compete for a prize. The third season could explore the Clone Saga.
Bro, you should be the riders at Sony because my God if this is how the Sony Spider-Man universe was people probably have no complaints a true Spider-Man fan right here👏👏👏
I don't know what to say about Spider-Man after the messed up ending of Spider-Man No Way Home meaning messed up as in being alone with no family and friends along with being forgotten from everyone's mind and everything he worked hard for as Peter Parker like academics gone down the drain since he's been wiped out of all the school records and how everyone thinks he killed his own aunt as well as still believing the lies of Mysterio. I say the writers went too far with this even if everyone doesn't agree with me
if hes done being peter, does that mean hes done being nice too? if so the anger and frustration he may go into this movie with could help fuel his anger when we get the black suit
Peter Parker isn't dead but I get what they're saying but headline probably doesn't help with that. Personally I have no interest in Miles Morales(I understand if you grew up and that character was created and you got into it, I can see why but its not for me).
I've been very indifferent about Miles Morales as well, because he just hasn't been Spider-Man for me anywhere as much as we obviously still associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker. This current thing of having two different characters carrying the Spider-Man mantle at the same time reminds me of when Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider existed in the comics during the 90s, only he was Peter's literal clone during that infamous Clone Saga story arc. It's one thing if they've been wanting Miles to be an alternative iteration of Spider-Man, but I just think it would be a huge mistake if they ever wanted to substitute Peter for him altogether and then never want to do anything more with the OG Spider-Man again.
Agreed I’m pretty indifferent. I think there’s a lot of potential with it but I don’t really care too much. It’s like a movie I’d still go see, but wouldn’t care too much about the future of it
I’m in between on that like I love Peter Parker he’s the OG but miles is so cool he should’ve be shown in the mainstream movies like a good ending to the raimi movies to make people like him more and I can relate to them both which is why I’m in between on that opinion
For the portion of the movie that is not multiversal(if possible at all), I do wanna see Kingpin as the guy behind scenes, and maybe have like Scorpion be his goon that attacks Spidey and then Daredevil(and if possible, Black Cat) team up. If this portion lasts like at least an hour and a half, then they could go any route with the Multiverse thing.
FINALLY We’ve been waiting for Black Cat and she’s finally here!!! Tbh I think she can offer so much more depth to the story because to me MJ and Gwen felt similar, at least their storylines with Spider Man did
Seeing more Spider-Man than Peter Parker is something that hasn't been done before in live action. I think this is a good thing and will have an amazing story. I'm cool with a multiversal story as long as they show a decent amount of street level. 👍
Okay at least it seems they are dealing with him being ground level for part of the movie. I wonder what this means for him being in college, maybe he’s more of a recluse and instead of taking photos for the bugle it will maybe be videos? I feel like all these plans are great but I think all of it happening within the Doomsday stuff will be a lot! It honestly would have been great if it was King Pin
Predictions of the Sinister 6: Scorpion-the leader of the group.🦂 Chameleon-(Peter’s bus driver in FFH) after Mysterio’s death, Chameleon uses his illusion tech to create a mask that will allow him to change his appearance.🎭 Spider Slayer-a paralyzed scientist that created his own iron man like spider suit.🕷️ Razorback-the muscle of the group. Probably will look like a humanoid warthog like Bebop.🐗 Vermin-a geneticist that experimented on himself, transforming himself into a humanoid rat.🐀 Hobgoblin-Ned was kidnapped and experimented with a serum that corrupted him and probably will use his magic to fight Spider-Man.👹
I hope the next villain is the scorpion because of the apearence of mack gargon in Spiderman homecoming, and on top of for to take some inspiration from the comics to have J Johna jameson fund the money for the experiment that mack gargon into the scorpion.
I still don’t get this, everyone forgot who Peter Parker was but does his spider suits forget who he is? You can’t delete him from the stark tech. Also, what about Edith he still has that too.
Nah, man they should just keep spider man for spider man 5 and 6 swinging alongside miles morales [most times] and the rest of it, bonding with miles, harry osborn,ned,mj, flash thompson and possibly gwen stacy and ganke lee
That does make sense, plot and story wise. Pete will be pouring his WHOLE being into his alter-ego. But I can see a bit of a call back to Homecoming when Peter did that to try to be an Avenger. Again, that's me overthinking it. But it could mean something differently. Idk.
I think like people stated that he ruining from his civil life so he will not be hurt again. Perfect time for venom thu. Also the fact andrew said the same to him no way home dont run away from being peter parker i dont want you to end up like me bitter and angry and stoping puling back. So I predict andrew vs tom if it is a multiverse movie. Andrew need to kick him out off it
If Spider-Man 4 hadn't been cancelled in 2010, Tobey Maguire would still be Spider-Man and would still be part of the MCU and would be the only Spider-Man just like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine.
@@MontclairBearexactly. people just like to talk lol when the MCU is established, regardless to when that happened, marvel would’ve cast their own Spider-Man, as they did, with Tom Holland. Son movies are separate at the end of the day
This is the perfect way they could introduce black cat like literally! He doesn't want anything to with his personal life and then he meets black cat AS spiderman. She doesn't need to know who he is and work together for sometime then eventually they become lovers.
How long till Sony sells the rights of Spider-Man and all the characters from his comics back to marvel and Disney just like how Disney got the rights for the Fantastic Four and the X-Men from Fox to use in the MCU? If that happened sooner, Do you think we would have seen Tobey Maguire Spider-Man in the Deadpool and Wolverine movie?
It makes sense, especially after no way home. He'll barely be Peter due to the spell. I think eventually find a way to drop the spell in a way where it'll only be to people who he wants to know. Family and friends. Favorite Hero: Batman
I actually like the direction this movie is going in and Spider-Man getting with Black Cat as a couple would be pretty cool. I hope the other two Spider-Men show up at the beginning of the film instead of at the end but if they’re going to be in the movie, where will they be staying at house wise?
Who else feels doctor strange should re do the spell. I don’t like the thought of no one knowing he’s Spider-Man after we just had him in so many movies. It seems like a slap to the face of the audience 😂
I don't think my choice of a villain would be very popular but I kind of want Hobgoblin (maybe played by Robert Pattinson or someone else). I think if Roderick Kingsley comes in, it would be an interesting way to bring MJ and Ned back into the plot. In the comics, I am pretty sure Kingsley was MJ's employer and MJ became a young model. He is also a fashion designer while also a criminal mastermind (maybe Kingpin hires him or asks him a favor). Kingsley also brainwashed Ned in the comics to make him a variant of Hobgoblin and go after Peter, it could be interesting to see peter battle someone who was once his best friend. What I also think would be very cool is that if the Hobgoblin had the ability of a sorcerer like doctor Strange. The variant Hobgoblin of Ned was a sorcerer in the comics, but they could switch it up to let Kingsley be the sorcerer instead (I'm thinking Kingsley might have been a former student in Kama Taj or something like that). I think if Doctor doom was going to destroy or effect the multiverse in someway after Avengers Doomsday, incursions start happening more frequently. This might be the reason we see Michael Keaton's Vulture in the Sonyverse, maybe time and space were so unstable he travels back and forth multiple times (I'm assuming the scene Morbius meets Vulture is taking place during the time after Avengers Doomsday). We could also see villains like Kraven the Hunter and Rhino come to the MCU and form some sort of sinister six (or seven) lead by Kingsley who hires them. We could even see the return of Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock, as the multiverse starts to move unstably, he travels back to the MCU. Maybe Eddie bonds with the piece of Venom left in the MCU and fights Peter (at one point), and them teams up with him after,
Hear me out, wouldn't it be kind of cool if he spends the film chasing a black-suited figure. Venom shows up, they fight, it's chaos, it's super obvious Venom is the figure, then boom; Andrew Garfield has the symbiote and his mind is twisted up from it (remember he had already stopped pulling his punches. Presumably, this Spider-man kills) and he beats the brakes off Tom and Tom. Now Tom and Tom need Toby's help, but he is reluctant to keep fighting after the events of Doomsday. Eventually he gets pulled in, big battle, they pull Andrew back from the brink. I know it won't happen, but I would pay to see that film 🎥
i´d love to see something like spectacular spiderman where Felicia tries to take his dad out of prison for the murder of Ben Parker and this lead into a flashback of Peter not saving uncle Ben and realizing himself that With Great Power comes great responsibility, and then Peter realizing that his time with the Avengers had pushed him away from his believes but Aunt May was there to remind him of what he used to stand for
id like it to be just a normal movie, no fantastic four, that feels weird. just keep it natural organic spider-man. I just hate it when a movie gets ruined.
We have heard this before and sony amy pascal have said this from the start. I belive tom holland peter parker will still be there but because he so hurt from what he have done he want to be/hide as spiderman. Is perfect time to bring inn venom since he allmost every single time make spiderman want to kill and we saw that rage wirh goblin. It is also perfect to bring inn andrew to inn diffrent way then we thought like a scene inn no way home where he say dont end up like me i ending up with full rage and stop pulling back i dont want to see you ending up bitter and angry at the wold. So i can easy see andrew or michelle try to get him back. This is why venom is perfect for this movie and we got the full villian from him again iven if i wanted hardy i think this is better for tom holland spiderman
This plot leak makes perfect sense. Why would he want to be Peter and risk personal relationships after losing Aunt May and ned and MJ and Tony.. go full out SPIDERMAN. awesome
I don’t mind the direction they are taking SM4 as long as these are the films that follow 🎥: SM5 - SM & DD team up against Kingpin & Scorpion SM6 - Peter mentors Miles and they fight against Mr. Negative & Prowler
Idk how I feel about this. Would’ve made more sense before doomsday. Idk how he’s going back to normal spidey with all the multiverse stuff going on. I hope it’s great though!
I would like to see Silk since it is supposedly a 'multiversal' film, and before they introduce Miles. If they introduce the Black Cat or Silk and they end up 'involved', the MCU better think about making it a Rated R film, for obvious reasons, ESPECIALLY for Silk, lol. Tom Holland's Spidey never got an 'origin' story, so introducing Silk they can explore that... I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see Felicia though. I think singer Ciara would be perfect because she has a body on her the way I think Felicia would and looks alot younger than 39 or maybe Zoe Kravitz (36). Paris Belec would be a good Silk...
I would inspect if they prepare as the sinister six trilogy, and all dudes Kingpin is to be the main boss of the sinister six, and to have the end of Spiderman Peter Parker. Than after that the introduction for Miles Morales.
I'm gonna get hate for this and I don't care but they made the biggest mistake in not letting Marvel use the REAL MJ (Mary Jane Watson). Zendaya's Michelle Jones should've remained a completely separate (and original) character with no romantic connections to Peter Parker but they had to force in those "MJ" initials by the end of Homecoming, which pissed a lot of fans off including me, and then just when you could've had a perfect send-off for Michelle, the character, by the end of NWH, with the spell, only to eventually undo it and bring them back together when that could've been your opportunity to bring in the actual MJ into the fold, especially if you're soft-rebooting the MCU after Secret Wars. It would only make sense to bring in the actual Spider-Man characters that Sony couldn't allow Marvel to use before because of rights issues, such as Harry Osborn, Mary Jane Watson, Norman Osborn (the MCU version), etc. Why can't Sony just let Marvel use those characters, especially now that their "Sony Spider-Man-less" universe is over?? Ned and Michelle should've just remained a thing of the old 616 timeline. And before anyone says it, yes, I'm aware Tom Holland and Zendaya are together in real life but that's all it should remain. No need to bank on their real-life relationship by bringing them back together again for this second trilogy (they're already co-starring together in Christopher Nolan's upcoming new film). I want this second trilogy to really be its own new arc by making it a more traditional Spider-Man trilogy that people know and love with actual supporting Spider-Man characters. Bringing in Black Cat is a pure example of that direction so why can't they "reboot" with other characters, like Mary Jane Watson and Harry Osborn, rather than bring back characters we don't need to see anymore (Michelle Jones' MJ and Ned)?? Sony needs to stop being so limited with who they let Marvel use, when it already shows that THEIR plan of films never worked outside of the animated Spider-Verse films.
If we got the fantastic 4 earlier we could have a peter/johnny rooming together. Movie adaption of the comic,have him be one of the few friends. He have as peter and then have johnny find out hes spidernan and have them team up. Since this first movie is kinda a soft reset,have that kinda build up to secrets wars.
@00:40 Amy Pascal is good friends with Kevin Feige?? Hardly. Rumor is they despise each other. The two have been rivals for years. It took forever for Kevin to get a meeting with her to discuss Marvel taking over the Spider-man movies. Technically he never even got a meeting, she just agreed to speak with him while she ate lunch. When he suggested that Marvel start making the Spidey movies, she threw her sandwich at him.
I'm sorry but I actually find it so crazy that this current mcu spider-man gets praised so much... all of those spider-man movies are NOT spider-man movies... theyre mcu movies that use the spider-man ip and fame to attribute to it. Let's be honest we learn NOTHING from these movies, they have bad plot, and to be honest the no way home movie was genuinely one of the better ones because it put up some sort of character developtment onto peter... But that gets honestly taken away by the fact that the previous spider-men (especially andrew) were just beter peters and spider-men. Honestly not hating on tom holland I just think the spidey he portrays is just extremely bad and we havent really seen anything spiderman related... heck we have like 2 or 3 shots of spider-man swinging in nyc in current mcu movies... thats honestly just sad
Peter Parker should be allowed to have more solo adventures so he can grow as a character.
Agreed. Kinda hard having Spiderman without having Peter Parker. But I guess we’ll see 🤷🏾♂️
They need to get rid of the actor who plays Ned Leeds and this MJ because these are not the correct MJ or Ned leads at all in the comics. Ned Leeds is not a fat black kid, and MJ is not a black teenager-she's a redheaded white chick!
@@anubusx is easier for Kevin to do it after spiderman 4 since tom holland spiderman will still be there and sony have given up allready.
@@quadphonics bro its not serious n ned aint even black🤣 and your right but zendaya still did better than dunst
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I feel like MJ and Ned should probably just go away for a few movies and let peter settle into his spiderman persona and focus on cultivating new friendships and relationships. Then possibly bring them back down the line
I think Ned needs a hobgoblin arc. The NWH alluded to it
Wasn’t it rumored that Ned was going to turn into the green goblin or hobgoblin or green goblin in some sorta twist.
a few movies...? this is possibly the last tom spiderman movie, there's absolutely no room to do that.
@@katgreer6113 he has another 3 movies lol 4 5 6
End of Peter is an interesting description, which it's most likely the case that Peter will mainly be Spiderman for a big portion of his screen time, and any sort of stuff with Peter not being Spiderman will be small screentime wise
Let's see a Tobey & Hugh team-up where Tobey evolves into the Man-Spider
I hope this turns out to be true
Kinda like Robert Pattinson’s Batman. Batman had a lot of screen time while Bruce Wayne had small screen time.&
I like the premise. Peter Parker trying to run away from Peter Parker. A great inner conflict.
That's why I think Spiderman should get the black suit in Doomsday because in the 4th Spiderman, that suit can build off that loneliness. That can be the theme of the entire movie loneliness. That's why Venom will be a great villain in Spider man 4 ( Sony Japan spoiled it) because Venom died in the third one. we can see Eddie struggling without him. Then, in a dark scene Finding Peter through the daily bugle and taking the suit, making this venom a true villain.
I can see venom being a villain in spidey 5. I think just Eddie will be introduced in spidey 4
@BM-sg1sl yeah maybe but like I said Sony Japan kinda spoiled it and you know Sony they love to rush things.
Thanks for the spoiler. You should always wait with spoilers at least a year after the movie dropped. Venom 3 is still in theaters, you dunce.
@@FuzzyFoot58 lol. I think exceptions are made for crap movies like Venom 3
@FuzzyFoot58 I'm sorry a year come on man also Venom 3 came on VD today that sounds like more of a you problem
And movie studios STILL fail to see the point that we want to see our heroes TRIUMPH over their adversity, not keep dying.
@@manxdarcqpaw744 amy pascal have confirmed this the biggest mistake we did was to not have spiderman inn ssu littery she said it. Now are focus is only on tom holland spiderman, beyond the spiderverse and noir and we will never do a villian movie without spiderman again. So sony did learn but to late for there own univers atleast they deleted that univers now
Except that most of the time the heroes DO TRIUMPH over adversity and survive. Movie studios do see the point, and your statement is completely invalid and wrong. Why you even said this is beyond me, you're the one who doesn't get it.
But, who cares what you think anyway.
I still don't understand how she is in anyway involved. She left Sony but they still have her involved? I never understood how she could work that deal.
Man nah bruh the title alone made me almost cry 😂😂😂😂😂😭
SpiderMan 4- no way we just killed the multiverse
The man under the mask is why we love Spider-Man!
If they kill peter off and bring in miles I'm officially DONE!
What villains do I want? of them!!!!
I would like to see Mr. Negative. I would like a Gang War of some kind involving Tombstone, Hammerhead, Silvermane, Kingpin, The Rose, Black Tarantula, The Owl, Hobgoblin. I would like the Jackal and a nod to a potential Clone Saga film. I would like the Smythes and their Spider-Slayers. I would like The Scorpion (finally). I would like to see some secondary characters like White Tiger, Black Cat, Puma, Nocturne, Batwing, Bluebird, Agent Venom, Speedball, Silver Sable, Hobie Brown's Prowler, Nightwatch, Rocket Racer, Solo, Cardiac, Paladin, Chance, Coldheart, Poison, Corona, Delilah, The Slingers; Prodigy, Hornet, Dusk & Ricocet.
Personally... what I would love to see.... I want a new Norman Osborn. I know the Norman from No Way Home said he looked and couldn't fine any trace of a Norman in this universe.
That's an easy fix. Norman was crossing into top secret research so the government whisked him away, erased his existence and put his ex-wife and son Harry into witness protection. Then when the snap happened, he was freed but realized he had to operate off the radar. So instead of "Oscorp", he assumed the role of Tyler Stone and created Alchemax. Alchemax would be the new Oscorp. And Kingpin would fund Alchemax for all sorts of programs to help take down vigilantes of which a whole floor or two would be dedicated to Spider-man. For that they would have robotics experts like Mendell Stromm, Otto Octavius (or Olivia Octavius), Phineas Mason and Spencer and Alistair Smythe. They would have genetic experts like Miles Warren, Michael Morbius and Farley Stillwell that have a team dedicated to trying to find trace DNA of Spider-man. On top of potentially cloning Peter, they could work with Damage Control to "acquire" alien samples of the Outriders and use that to clone them and create the Dopplegangers. They could create a mutagen that transforms Peter into Man-Spider.
If I were Sony.... instead of making films about characters and not being able to have Spider-man in them, I would work out a deal with Disney for a Disney plus series called "Tangled Web" where each episode could be devoted to an origin story of a Spider-man related character. I can have (but doesn't have to) Spider-man in it or culminate to a conclusion whereby Spider-man could just be reserved for the final episode. Tangled Web season 1 could explore flashbacks for Norman and his return to power to creating Alchemax and each episode could be him assembling the "professionals" to fill his lab with. Tangled Web season 2 could explore the secondary characters and perhaps The Game storyline whereby many compete for a prize. The third season could explore the Clone Saga.
Bro, you should be the riders at Sony because my God if this is how the Sony Spider-Man universe was people probably have no complaints a true Spider-Man fan right here👏👏👏
Let him cook, my guy has what it takes to be the next Kevin feige 🙌
I smell Black Cat in the future!!!!
Same I can just taste her 🐱
I don't know what to say about Spider-Man after the messed up ending of Spider-Man No Way Home meaning messed up as in being alone with no family and friends along with being forgotten from everyone's mind and everything he worked hard for as Peter Parker like academics gone down the drain since he's been wiped out of all the school records and how everyone thinks he killed his own aunt as well as still believing the lies of Mysterio. I say the writers went too far with this even if everyone doesn't agree with me
Seeing Miles morales in this universe will be dope
Just hope it is a well written story 😊
The end of Peter Parker? NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭
if hes done being peter, does that mean hes done being nice too? if so the anger and frustration he may go into this movie with could help fuel his anger when we get the black suit
don't blame her, its only sony. she's fine. don't pull her in cosmic that's bad.
More Spidey should be good and I can't wait to see him working in the Daily Bugle
Pretty cool having Spiderman for about 90%of the film😮😮
Peter Parker isn't dead but I get what they're saying but headline probably doesn't help with that. Personally I have no interest in Miles Morales(I understand if you grew up and that character was created and you got into it, I can see why but its not for me).
I've been very indifferent about Miles Morales as well, because he just hasn't been Spider-Man for me anywhere as much as we obviously still associate Spider-Man with Peter Parker.
This current thing of having two different characters carrying the Spider-Man mantle at the same time reminds me of when Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider existed in the comics during the 90s, only he was Peter's literal clone during that infamous Clone Saga story arc. It's one thing if they've been wanting Miles to be an alternative iteration of Spider-Man, but I just think it would be a huge mistake if they ever wanted to substitute Peter for him altogether and then never want to do anything more with the OG Spider-Man again.
Agreed I’m pretty indifferent. I think there’s a lot of potential with it but I don’t really care too much. It’s like a movie I’d still go see, but wouldn’t care too much about the future of it
@@nicksorenson940 Im tired of seeing him everywhere and taking the spotlight from peter
@@french_toast223He’s not taking the spotlight
I’m in between on that like I love Peter Parker he’s the OG but miles is so cool he should’ve be shown in the mainstream movies like a good ending to the raimi movies to make people like him more and I can relate to them both which is why I’m in between on that opinion
For the portion of the movie that is not multiversal(if possible at all), I do wanna see Kingpin as the guy behind scenes, and maybe have like Scorpion be his goon that attacks Spidey and then Daredevil(and if possible, Black Cat) team up. If this portion lasts like at least an hour and a half, then they could go any route with the Multiverse thing.
FINALLY
We’ve been waiting for Black Cat and she’s finally here!!!
Tbh I think she can offer so much more depth to the story because to me MJ and Gwen felt similar, at least their storylines with Spider Man did
It’s the end of Peter because no one knows who Peter is.
He’s not going anywhere.
Seeing more Spider-Man than Peter Parker is something that hasn't been done before in live action. I think this is a good thing and will have an amazing story. I'm cool with a multiversal story as long as they show a decent amount of street level. 👍
7:47 Bout damn time we see BLACK CAT!!!!
Peter Parker Is Not Dead
Go for black cat!
Okay at least it seems they are dealing with him being ground level for part of the movie. I wonder what this means for him being in college, maybe he’s more of a recluse and instead of taking photos for the bugle it will maybe be videos? I feel like all these plans are great but I think all of it happening within the Doomsday stuff will be a lot! It honestly would have been great if it was King Pin
Predictions of the Sinister 6:
Scorpion-the leader of the group.🦂
Chameleon-(Peter’s bus driver in FFH) after Mysterio’s death, Chameleon uses his illusion tech to create a mask that will allow him to change his appearance.🎭
Spider Slayer-a paralyzed scientist that created his own iron man like spider suit.🕷️
Razorback-the muscle of the group. Probably will look like a humanoid warthog like Bebop.🐗
Vermin-a geneticist that experimented on himself, transforming himself into a humanoid rat.🐀
Hobgoblin-Ned was kidnapped and experimented with a serum that corrupted him and probably will use his magic to fight Spider-Man.👹
I hope the next villain is the scorpion because of the apearence of mack gargon in Spiderman homecoming, and on top of for to take some inspiration from the comics to have J Johna jameson fund the money for the experiment that mack gargon into the scorpion.
I still don’t get this, everyone forgot who Peter Parker was but does his spider suits forget who he is? You can’t delete him from the stark tech. Also, what about Edith he still has that too.
They do forget. That's why he has the new suit at the end of the film. He had to make a new one from scratch.
Well if nobody remembers Peter Parker, then he can use the name Peter Parker.
Pretty cool news and it would make for a good movie
Nah, man they should just keep spider man for spider man 5 and 6 swinging alongside miles morales [most times] and the rest of it, bonding with miles, harry osborn,ned,mj, flash thompson and possibly gwen stacy and ganke lee
That does make sense, plot and story wise. Pete will be pouring his WHOLE being into his alter-ego. But I can see a bit of a call back to Homecoming when Peter did that to try to be an Avenger. Again, that's me overthinking it. But it could mean something differently. Idk.
I think like people stated that he ruining from his civil life so he will not be hurt again. Perfect time for venom thu. Also the fact andrew said the same to him no way home dont run away from being peter parker i dont want you to end up like me bitter and angry and stoping puling back. So I predict andrew vs tom if it is a multiverse movie. Andrew need to kick him out off it
If Spider-Man 4 hadn't been cancelled in 2010, Tobey Maguire would still be Spider-Man and would still be part of the MCU and would be the only Spider-Man just like Hugh Jackman's Wolverine.
No, due to Peter’s age tobey would NOT be the only Spider-Man in the MCU. Maybe we would have gotten miles morales in 2017 though
@@MontclairBearexactly. people just like to talk lol when the MCU is established, regardless to when that happened, marvel would’ve cast their own Spider-Man, as they did, with Tom Holland. Son movies are separate at the end of the day
We fans don’t want end to Peter Parker’s story
Its a nod to the comic arc peter parker no more. Its when peter chose to pursue his spider-man carrer at the cost of himself.
I just want to know when will Peter get the symbiote suit
This is the perfect way they could introduce black cat like literally! He doesn't want anything to with his personal life and then he meets black cat AS spiderman. She doesn't need to know who he is and work together for sometime then eventually they become lovers.
How long till Sony sells the rights of Spider-Man and all the characters from his comics back to marvel and Disney just like how Disney got the rights for the Fantastic Four and the X-Men from Fox to use in the MCU? If that happened sooner, Do you think we would have seen Tobey Maguire Spider-Man in the Deadpool and Wolverine movie?
Don't hold ur breath this ain't a charity
@@jayrock2754I think Disney is wealthy enough to just buy Sony
It makes sense, especially after no way home. He'll barely be Peter due to the spell. I think eventually find a way to drop the spell in a way where it'll only be to people who he wants to know. Family and friends.
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Crazy how the street level storyline will be multiversal for this now
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that’d be an amazing scene for Avengers 5/6
@@ttt9830 they have not interacted even once yet for this to make sense lol
@@DireNemesisthey did interact once.
@@DireNemesis how would that not make sense?
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I actually like the direction this movie is going in and Spider-Man getting with Black Cat as a couple would be pretty cool. I hope the other two Spider-Men show up at the beginning of the film instead of at the end but if they’re going to be in the movie, where will they be staying at house wise?
Who else feels doctor strange should re do the spell. I don’t like the thought of no one knowing he’s Spider-Man after we just had him in so many movies. It seems like a slap to the face of the audience 😂
It makes the most sense. Now we can finally see him as Spider-Man alone. Build Spider-Man up as a hero before Peter Parker gets more story.
Why hasn't NWH made it into Disney Plus yet?
All I hope for is the suit being upgraded to have raised webbing and not being covered up with CGI like 90% of the time.
Miles Isn’t going to be Spider-Man in the reboot so idk why they’d even bring him in unless he’s a part of each one of these next 3 Spider-Man movies
This idea can really develop peter Parker in a way we have not seen before and it will be interesting what brings him back so to speak
I just hope they start filming in 2026 and sony looses the rights in 2025 of september
I don't think my choice of a villain would be very popular but I kind of want Hobgoblin (maybe played by Robert Pattinson or someone else). I think if Roderick Kingsley comes in, it would be an interesting way to bring MJ and Ned back into the plot. In the comics, I am pretty sure Kingsley was MJ's employer and MJ became a young model. He is also a fashion designer while also a criminal mastermind (maybe Kingpin hires him or asks him a favor). Kingsley also brainwashed Ned in the comics to make him a variant of Hobgoblin and go after Peter, it could be interesting to see peter battle someone who was once his best friend. What I also think would be very cool is that if the Hobgoblin had the ability of a sorcerer like doctor Strange. The variant Hobgoblin of Ned was a sorcerer in the comics, but they could switch it up to let Kingsley be the sorcerer instead (I'm thinking Kingsley might have been a former student in Kama Taj or something like that). I think if Doctor doom was going to destroy or effect the multiverse in someway after Avengers Doomsday, incursions start happening more frequently. This might be the reason we see Michael Keaton's Vulture in the Sonyverse, maybe time and space were so unstable he travels back and forth multiple times (I'm assuming the scene Morbius meets Vulture is taking place during the time after Avengers Doomsday). We could also see villains like Kraven the Hunter and Rhino come to the MCU and form some sort of sinister six (or seven) lead by Kingsley who hires them. We could even see the return of Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock, as the multiverse starts to move unstably, he travels back to the MCU. Maybe Eddie bonds with the piece of Venom left in the MCU and fights Peter (at one point), and them teams up with him after,
Pascal is not to blame for Sony having Spidey- Marvel is to blame for selling them off...
Hear me out, wouldn't it be kind of cool if he spends the film chasing a black-suited figure. Venom shows up, they fight, it's chaos, it's super obvious Venom is the figure, then boom; Andrew Garfield has the symbiote and his mind is twisted up from it (remember he had already stopped pulling his punches. Presumably, this Spider-man kills) and he beats the brakes off Tom and Tom. Now Tom and Tom need Toby's help, but he is reluctant to keep fighting after the events of Doomsday. Eventually he gets pulled in, big battle, they pull Andrew back from the brink.
I know it won't happen, but I would pay to see that film 🎥
I want to see Venom, as Sony Japan confirmed he's coming to the MCU with Spider-Man 4
I’m gonna man guess that nothing has actually been confirmed.
i´d love to see something like spectacular spiderman where Felicia tries to take his dad out of prison for the murder of Ben Parker and this lead into a flashback of Peter not saving uncle Ben and realizing himself that With Great Power comes great responsibility, and then Peter realizing that his time with the Avengers had pushed him away from his believes but Aunt May was there to remind him of what he used to stand for
id like it to be just a normal movie, no fantastic four, that feels weird. just keep it natural organic spider-man. I just hate it when a movie gets ruined.
I am glad because that means we are getting the max amount of screen time with his beautiful red and blue suit
We have heard this before and sony amy pascal have said this from the start. I belive tom holland peter parker will still be there but because he so hurt from what he have done he want to be/hide as spiderman. Is perfect time to bring inn venom since he allmost every single time make spiderman want to kill and we saw that rage wirh goblin. It is also perfect to bring inn andrew to inn diffrent way then we thought like a scene inn no way home where he say dont end up like me i ending up with full rage and stop pulling back i dont want to see you ending up bitter and angry at the wold. So i can easy see andrew or michelle try to get him back. This is why venom is perfect for this movie and we got the full villian from him again iven if i wanted hardy i think this is better for tom holland spiderman
This plot leak makes perfect sense. Why would he want to be Peter and risk personal relationships after losing Aunt May and ned and MJ and Tony.. go full out SPIDERMAN. awesome
I don’t mind the direction they are taking SM4 as long as these are the films that follow 🎥:
SM5 - SM & DD team up against Kingpin & Scorpion
SM6 - Peter mentors Miles and they fight against Mr. Negative & Prowler
Thank you amy pescal for keeping spidey away from disney not all heroes where mask or caps
Starts with a line we have known for over 3 years.
spider man 4 movie in the beetle vs spider in the mcu in 2025 today now yes 😍😍😍😍
I'll would like the Chameleon to play the villain
2026 is going to be an insane year for movies
Give JJJ thirty minutes with Thor. He will never mention Spider-Man again.
So a darker version of the one more day storyline? Wow I hate when I'm right
Idk how I feel about this. Would’ve made more sense before doomsday. Idk how he’s going back to normal spidey with all the multiverse stuff going on. I hope it’s great though!
They've literally announced that kraven will be the last of the side movies because they're terrible and they can concentrate on Spiderman
i feel like this is fresh take on the spider-man story im interested
"being peter parker is hard"
that's what she said
didn’t we already know this for months or just speculation before
I would like to see Silk since it is supposedly a 'multiversal' film, and before they introduce Miles. If they introduce the Black Cat or Silk and they end up 'involved', the MCU better think about making it a Rated R film, for obvious reasons, ESPECIALLY for Silk, lol.
Tom Holland's Spidey never got an 'origin' story, so introducing Silk they can explore that...
I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see Felicia though. I think singer Ciara would be perfect because she has a body on her the way I think Felicia would and looks alot younger than 39 or maybe Zoe Kravitz (36). Paris Belec would be a good Silk...
Dude I still feel like MJ should have the relationship and not blackcat
I want to see the Hob Goblin eventually
Im excited for
Spider-man 4
I would inspect if they prepare as the sinister six trilogy, and all dudes Kingpin is to be the main boss of the sinister six, and to have the end of Spiderman Peter Parker. Than after that the introduction for Miles Morales.
But Tom holland signed a contract to star as Peter Parker/Spider-Man in spider-man 4,5 and 6 and avengers doomsday and secret wars
If he’s going to be spiderman more hope we see black cat
I'm gonna get hate for this and I don't care but they made the biggest mistake in not letting Marvel use the REAL MJ (Mary Jane Watson). Zendaya's Michelle Jones should've remained a completely separate (and original) character with no romantic connections to Peter Parker but they had to force in those "MJ" initials by the end of Homecoming, which pissed a lot of fans off including me, and then just when you could've had a perfect send-off for Michelle, the character, by the end of NWH, with the spell, only to eventually undo it and bring them back together when that could've been your opportunity to bring in the actual MJ into the fold, especially if you're soft-rebooting the MCU after Secret Wars. It would only make sense to bring in the actual Spider-Man characters that Sony couldn't allow Marvel to use before because of rights issues, such as Harry Osborn, Mary Jane Watson, Norman Osborn (the MCU version), etc. Why can't Sony just let Marvel use those characters, especially now that their "Sony Spider-Man-less" universe is over?? Ned and Michelle should've just remained a thing of the old 616 timeline.
And before anyone says it, yes, I'm aware Tom Holland and Zendaya are together in real life but that's all it should remain. No need to bank on their real-life relationship by bringing them back together again for this second trilogy (they're already co-starring together in Christopher Nolan's upcoming new film). I want this second trilogy to really be its own new arc by making it a more traditional Spider-Man trilogy that people know and love with actual supporting Spider-Man characters. Bringing in Black Cat is a pure example of that direction so why can't they "reboot" with other characters, like Mary Jane Watson and Harry Osborn, rather than bring back characters we don't need to see anymore (Michelle Jones' MJ and Ned)?? Sony needs to stop being so limited with who they let Marvel use, when it already shows that THEIR plan of films never worked outside of the animated Spider-Verse films.
We're going to get black cat finding out Spiderman is a kid and throws up on him
Black Cat needs to be in there now
If we got the fantastic 4 earlier we could have a peter/johnny rooming together. Movie adaption of the comic,have him be one of the few friends. He have as peter and then have johnny find out hes spidernan and have them team up. Since this first movie is kinda a soft reset,have that kinda build up to secrets wars.
Sydney Sweeney as black cat please
Multiverse ruined Spider-Man for this version it should have been grounded and they refuse to budge
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Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Miles Morales is Miles Morales
Miles is Spider-Man
@@CSM.HBJ-DoggPeter Parker is Spider-man
@@CSM.HBJ-Doggactually Migual O'Hara is Spider-Man. Peter & Miles are just dorks 😂
@00:40 Amy Pascal is good friends with Kevin Feige??
Hardly. Rumor is they despise each other. The two have been rivals for years. It took forever for Kevin to get a meeting with her to discuss Marvel taking over the Spider-man movies. Technically he never even got a meeting, she just agreed to speak with him while she ate lunch. When he suggested that Marvel start making the Spidey movies, she threw her sandwich at him.
Everyone forgot peter was spiderman, what happened to the footage with his identity reveal
So it's just like Robert Pattinson's Batman, where he was most of the movie
Reverse Spiderman 2😂
I'm sorry but I actually find it so crazy that this current mcu spider-man gets praised so much... all of those spider-man movies are NOT spider-man movies... theyre mcu movies that use the spider-man ip and fame to attribute to it. Let's be honest we learn NOTHING from these movies, they have bad plot, and to be honest the no way home movie was genuinely one of the better ones because it put up some sort of character developtment onto peter... But that gets honestly taken away by the fact that the previous spider-men (especially andrew) were just beter peters and spider-men. Honestly not hating on tom holland I just think the spidey he portrays is just extremely bad and we havent really seen anything spiderman related... heck we have like 2 or 3 shots of spider-man swinging in nyc in current mcu movies... thats honestly just sad
I hope he starts taking photos (or videos) for J. Jonah Jameson and the Daily Bugle)
XD no more peter? Wait wich one?
black cat will be suited pair for Toby spiderman variant
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