Was Ding Liren's offer reasonable? | Praggnanandhaa vs Ding Liren | Norway Chess 2024

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
  • Ding Liren offered a draw to Praggnanandhaa on the 30th move of their game at the Norway Chess 2024. Was the draw offer reasonable? Why did the World Champion do that? Check it out in this video with commentary by IM Sagar Shah.
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Комментарии • 82

  • @user-js1ed6pr7t
    @user-js1ed6pr7t 25 дней назад +35

    10:43 :
    Pragg -> draw q bhai?
    Ding : Bs yaar paet mae drd hain

  • @gkfair123
    @gkfair123 25 дней назад +14

    10:10 This is the moment we get to know that chess players are no less than secret talkers.

  • @JaiSriRam801
    @JaiSriRam801 25 дней назад +39

    10:12 Draw offer moment. Iam able to see this only with zoom in and slow motion
    I think top chess players can become good spy's also

  • @NEPLIC_3_Brothers
    @NEPLIC_3_Brothers 25 дней назад +21

    Sagar Shah is best commentetor

  • @abhijayrajput1221
    @abhijayrajput1221 25 дней назад +23

    I understand Ding's position, poor guy got already enough jolt to his confidence now that he don't want to take risk . He should should avoid competition before championship and focus on training to get more confidence.

    • @ashmitbhat8811
      @ashmitbhat8811 25 дней назад

      LOL u look dumb bcoz ding liren is doing it for future to defend his title in novemeber

  • @DhwajJyoti
    @DhwajJyoti 25 дней назад +4

    Ding looked like he wanted to finish the game quickly it seems.

  • @KidJV
    @KidJV 25 дней назад +5

    something interesting is happening in the ceiling in this games

  • @shubhsrivatava777
    @shubhsrivatava777 25 дней назад +13

    Ding need to take a break of atleast a year to just stable his whole situation

    • @Aditya_1706
      @Aditya_1706 25 дней назад +1

      he have to play the world championship match in november

    • @njr3320
      @njr3320 25 дней назад +1

      V Gukesh??

    • @SaiCh-yw9wp
      @SaiCh-yw9wp 24 дня назад

      No vs Sagar shah​@@njr3320

  • @noa7124
    @noa7124 25 дней назад +3

    in every Sagar Shah video someone chops off a bishop.

  • @fixpontt
    @fixpontt 25 дней назад +15

    poor Ding is in a terrible mental state, hope he will recuperate

    • @elcheapo9444
      @elcheapo9444 25 дней назад +1

      I want him to recuperate after the world championship.

    • @_rmradziq8537
      @_rmradziq8537 25 дней назад

      ​@@elcheapo9444 what, wouldnt it be better before? Or else we r gonna get a very boring WCC.

    • @fixpontt
      @fixpontt 25 дней назад

      @@elcheapo9444 beating a dead lion has no value at all, with him to be in his best form for the match

  • @1C00LTV
    @1C00LTV 25 дней назад +8

    Hey chessies how do u get to know from the position that a draw is being offered plzz tell ❤❤

    • @richardfeynman7332
      @richardfeynman7332 25 дней назад

      the elo bar is exactly equal, which means according to the engines the position is nearly equal, so if every moves are played perfectly the game would result in a draw

  • @rahilcasanova981
    @rahilcasanova981 25 дней назад +7

    Why is Gukesh not in this tournament?

  • @saykp3783
    @saykp3783 25 дней назад +3

    Praggg❤❤

  • @soothOfTheLoop
    @soothOfTheLoop 25 дней назад +1

    I think that the best preparation for Ding for defending his title in November, are long walks in the mountains and aerobics and fitness, but not chess. he really should take a long break from chess.

  • @soldier5993
    @soldier5993 21 день назад

    7.16: Prag should’ve taken knight at g7 with bishop at a3.

  • @n.m.5744
    @n.m.5744 25 дней назад

    Ding is growing stronger

  • @bhatfaiz1593
    @bhatfaiz1593 25 дней назад +1

    Dont know what is going on with Ding i am feeling bad for him😢

  • @mkevents6386
    @mkevents6386 25 дней назад

    Who won the game

  • @dannygjk
    @dannygjk 25 дней назад

    iirc not the main line.

  • @FrankJamger
    @FrankJamger 25 дней назад

    Neither player lost, but the fans lost.

  • @cdr3115
    @cdr3115 25 дней назад +1

    Too much ritual, or it's just annoying of the opponent to disturb the concentration.

  • @ameyhukkeri9874
    @ameyhukkeri9874 24 дня назад

    Where are these guys going after making a move?

    • @yeaiateit
      @yeaiateit 23 дня назад

      There is another room to rest, I believe. Magnus was eating pizza there during his game, too. There's also a confessional which allows the players to talk about what they think of their games and the games of other players.

  • @user-pf3on2ks3b
    @user-pf3on2ks3b 25 дней назад

    guys i am a beginner and i maybe wrong but can't ding capture the pawn at a4 by en passant at 3:38

    • @architojha000
      @architojha000 25 дней назад

      how...??

    • @nf6nx
      @nf6nx 25 дней назад +1

      No for this the needs to be beside other not front

    • @RakeshKumar-ej5fq
      @RakeshKumar-ej5fq 25 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sujithalakshmi8002
    @sujithalakshmi8002 24 дня назад

    Can someone explain how come it became draw

    • @gnosticallyspeaking3544
      @gnosticallyspeaking3544 23 дня назад

      After a certain number of moves per tournament rules, anyone can offer a draw. Seems after Ding made his move, he whispered "draw" and after some review Pragg accepted. Why the draw? Ding might've been very slightly better. But think Pragg probably would've brought his light square bishop out to attack the knight and then exchange. Leaving opposite color bishop ending. Black with light square. White with dark square. Which is very drawish anyway. That and given a draw for black in an e4-e5 opening isn't bad probably makes Ding's offer understandable.

  • @iThqralt
    @iThqralt 25 дней назад

    Ayanokoji solos

  • @universianabgamer1374
    @universianabgamer1374 25 дней назад +6

    Bhai ye baar baar uth ke kaha zare h?

    • @chemreetesh84
      @chemreetesh84 25 дней назад

      😂😂

    • @chessvlog
      @chessvlog 25 дней назад +3

      Bhi bar bar nhi uth rhe h each side have 2 hr time so total time is 4 hr dono player ke time ko Mila ke ..itne der kon baithe ga

    • @universianabgamer1374
      @universianabgamer1374 25 дней назад +1

      @@chessvlog thanku bhai, 🤗

    • @Rishi_1990
      @Rishi_1990 25 дней назад +2

      There is rule after every 5 moves you need to have atleast 50mtr walk otherwise 5 minutes has been reduced from that player's clock... it's for keeping chess players healthy....

    • @RakeshKumar-ej5fq
      @RakeshKumar-ej5fq 25 дней назад +1

      ​@@Rishi_1990kuch bhi😂😂😂😂😂

  • @radhikamodi7905
    @radhikamodi7905 25 дней назад

    Why do they get up in between like that almost everytime?!?

    • @gusta01015
      @gusta01015 25 дней назад

      There is a time skip[

    • @ShankarMupanna
      @ShankarMupanna 25 дней назад

      Bruh the game generally goes for about 3 hrs
      Who would sit There for that long?

  • @chemreetesh84
    @chemreetesh84 25 дней назад +7

    Ye ding kya kr rha h bar bar uth rha h😂😂

    • @rk7508
      @rk7508 25 дней назад +4

      bhai terrace pe jaake sutta maarke aata tha :D

  • @jlcdrivewayramps7343
    @jlcdrivewayramps7343 25 дней назад

    ding chilling. or is he faking.

  • @ffshorts2854
    @ffshorts2854 25 дней назад +4

    Prag respect butten😊

  • @Mrswhosemelon
    @Mrswhosemelon 25 дней назад +2

    I'm telling you Ding is preparing for Gukesh . He is not revealing his strategy that's why he intentionally losses or draw . Mark my words

  • @dawn21stcentury
    @dawn21stcentury 25 дней назад +1

    Ding seems such a sad person.
    What is going on with him?
    Why is he soo depressed?

  • @hydraotaku2607
    @hydraotaku2607 25 дней назад +1

  • @elmerfrejoles98
    @elmerfrejoles98 25 дней назад +1

    That was a premature draw. White could move his light bishop in front of Q and fork lift his rook for better positioning for the end game. I wouldn't accept his draw offer. Win or lose, play on to the end. Knowing you did your best. Draws are for AI's super computer games.

    • @peted6334
      @peted6334 25 дней назад

      Thank you for your learned opinion, mr. grandmaster! 😂

  • @soothOfTheLoop
    @soothOfTheLoop 25 дней назад

    prag is still trailing close by to first place and therefore he should try and go for the win in clasical for the 3 points. the position is only slightly better for Ding, and Ding is known to have made big mistakes, so I think prag should not have accepted the draw offer.

  • @madrasman8883
    @madrasman8883 25 дней назад

    Dings problem is he is moving pieces quickly. He should practice the opposite and come out of mental state with patience. He should solve puzzles with longer time concentrations

  • @Rau-son
    @Rau-son 25 дней назад

    4:39 sagar bhai thooda so lia karo

    • @Pranay_9
      @Pranay_9 25 дней назад

      kya be

    • @1C00LTV
      @1C00LTV 25 дней назад +1

      He is referring to fabi's game and trying to tell that fabi played that move here.
      Sone ki jarurat tumko hai 😂😂

  • @frsmantixgaming3394
    @frsmantixgaming3394 25 дней назад

    Hey

  • @NEPLIC_3_Brothers
    @NEPLIC_3_Brothers 25 дней назад

    Op

  • @aquafriendly
    @aquafriendly 25 дней назад

    game 2024 camera 1997

  • @azimkhanapure9234
    @azimkhanapure9234 25 дней назад +1

    Who wins

  • @Karan__124
    @Karan__124 25 дней назад

    First comment

  • @SujeeT-96
    @SujeeT-96 25 дней назад

    ये बार बार उठकर जाते कहा है

  • @Prachtbart
    @Prachtbart 25 дней назад

    why not remove yourself from the tournament if you dont want to play ding? Its okay but this is not respectable behaviour

    • @peted6334
      @peted6334 25 дней назад

      What is not respectable? He followed the rules and politely offered a draw after move 30. Totally respectable and respectful. Perhaps you would have different strategy? (if you were a world champion level player!)

    • @Prachtbart
      @Prachtbart 24 дня назад

      @@peted6334Im not talking strategy, im saying if you do now want to play a tournament because youre feeling unwell, thats totally fine.
      Playing the tournament and being half-hearted is not, another more motivated player could play instead.
      Of course it is Dings choice how to handle the situation and if he deems it more polite to try and draw that is his business, and I do not think any less of him, for I dont know his reasoning.

    • @heyyhei
      @heyyhei 24 дня назад

      @@PrachtbartI feel like withdrawing from a double round robin tournament would be the worse choice he could do. Even though Ding just draw this game immediately, he is still playing chess. But withdrawing from the tournament will mess up the schedule and the score of the players.

  • @uniquegaming4714
    @uniquegaming4714 25 дней назад

    Who won the Armageddon

  • @syedirfanahmad9626
    @syedirfanahmad9626 21 день назад

    Boring game

  • @peted6334
    @peted6334 25 дней назад

    Anyone else feeling dizzy watching Ding's constant getting up and sitting down? 😅

  • @dipalirahalkar2801
    @dipalirahalkar2801 25 дней назад

  • @productive_
    @productive_ 25 дней назад

    Ding liren is about to cu(o)m(e) 🤔 c