I live up here in Michigan where there are tons of outside wood boilers. They usually have SS water jackets and they crack from expansion and contraction over time. I have switched to Stainless mig wire and Tri mix gas due to time it takes/saves. Had to relearn mig welding almost. I learned it was “get a puddle and GO!” Type of welding or it gobs up. As always great video!
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
as a mere mortal, it was strangely comforting watching you struggle at the beginning:) appreciate the honesty of you including all of it in your video, JB
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
Hey CB, thanks for showing us the new products and real world results. Keep up the great work. I hope you and your family have a Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the education on working with stainless steel. I’ve done very little stainless work. You brought some very good points across about mig different wires and heat and wire speed. I don’t have any inverter type of welders. However, I’m thinking very seriously about learning to tig and if I do I’ll be going with an arc captain machine. Thanks again for your videos the content is extremely helpful.
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What I was taught in school for welding was it goes Short Circuit and then globular transfer is the state of the wire before it gets to being hot enough to be a spray arc I was taught that globular transfer is good for horizontal and flat and I have not heard that term globular transfer in a long time you either hear short-circuit or spray arc or pulse spray and now they got this new thing called double pulse at least I'm just now hearing about it
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
FYI... I've run .035 Stainless Steel wire in my Miller Spoolgun on the 252 before with good results. Ran it with tri-mix gas and around 24-25 volts, 450-475 ipm. 👍
Really good to see this. I have a Lincoln spoolgun for my Ranger 300DLX engine drive and I'm going to try some. 030 and .035 with 75/25 gas aswell as some stainless wire and straight argon gas for working mobile jobs. Thx kaxtell281 👍
I've ran alot of stainless flux core, it was dual shield .045. It was lincoln wire i believe. I was building bumpers for the coal pier dock in Norfolk virginia. I attached stainless 3/4 nuts to steel dock bumpers. The nuts attached umhw plastic to the steel panels. It welded beautiful. Gas was 100 argon, gave me a headache after a 10 hr shift.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
Excellent Vid C.B. Answered the question pretty well. Additionally, I digress, I think you're onto something. I believe the .025 'maaaaaay' be the answer for that machine. Would really like to hear how that works out with you in another video on SS down the road. Inquiring minds alike would want to know. Cheers. Keep 'em coming!!
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
It’s the gas cb you need the right tri mix and I can’t remember what I found was the optimal but it had a fair amount of helium in it as far as I can remember I haven’t done anything in quite a while with mig sst most of the stuff I’ve welded in the rail car industry that was sst was either flux core with co2 and 75/25 or sst stick! Haven’t really miged it since the 90’s or early 2000’s now I don’t weld for a living when I run into a side project It was tig or stick sst. Side note your flux is electrode positive I believe
Yes....I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon I don't MIG enough stainless to lease a tank of tri mix although that gas is much better for stainless...I'd get it if I needed to do more
Didn't notice if you mentioned what polarity you used with the stainless flux core wire, but the self shielded runs on reverse polarity (DCEP). You also need to be up around 23-24 volts minimum... it's definitely not a low voltage wire. It's possible the wire could be trash, but I'm thinking your polarity and voltage could have been the problem.
@@NBSWELDING yep, I'm pretty sure swapping to dcep will make a big difference in the profile of the bead. It's been a long time since I used it, but I seem to recall it looking like a ball on the end of the wire while you're welding... So don't be alarmed if it looks odd because it's kind of just how the stuff runs.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
I will try that...thanks That brings up another point about the MIG 145...the way it's setup with the wire feed it's not very easy to run anything on DCEP....Might have to take something apart inside the machine I could try DCEP easily with the MIG 200 though
Interesting nice End result thank you for sharing like you said it’s not really a pipe supplying rocket fuel to the space shuttle it’s water it’s more than good enough Cheers from Nova Scotia
I think you said 100% Ar. I've used 308 ss wire that called for 98-2 Ar-O, and I got what I think was spray transfer (never did spray before). I'm going to try it with 100% Ar to see how that works. Tri mix was (is) $$. Great video. Thanks!
@NBSWELDING I'm like one of the only guys that still does it in my area. It's great for intricate repair of tool and die and small part fabrication repair.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
😁 It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
I agree that if it passes a pressure check, MIG;in this application, is just fine. One question: Did I understand you correctly, that you were using 100% argon? I know you can use 75/25 but tri-mix is the correct choice. I recently ordered and used some Lincoln Ultra-Core gas shielded flux core on a DOT bumper repair on a Great Dane trailer. Loved it. It calls for 75/25. Thanks CB.
Sure could have but wouldn't have learned anything...I've sticked lots of stainless...pretty easy I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon
Tri mix is better for stainless MIG but I don't do it enough to get a tank of that Found out that the stainless flux core has to be ran on DCEP...video correction on that will be out soon
On solid core 308 what gas do u run I have done it Tri gas and its pricey on 304 stainless but it works great !! I see you don't back purge with argon inside the tube so your going to have surging inside the pipe and this will cause lot of rusting in the future please let me know if I'm wrong !
I used argon and I don't do enough stainless to bother getting tri-mix gas...this stainless line is gonna be connected to over 50ft of plain black iron pipe that supplies it so a little corrosion inside the stainless is not even worth worrying about. If it mattered that much I would have back gas purged and used TIG but in this case that would have been a waste of time
Never welded stainless with oxy/acetylene....guys are suggesting that the stainless flux core runs better on DCEP so I gotta try that because I was on DCEN
Wonder if it’s just the arccaptain wire? Cause the flux I got w my mig200 from them wasn’t the best, switched to some diff brand flux core , welded a lot better 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@yenerm114 I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon. The ARCCAPTAIN flux core wire for regular carbon steel is the best flux core I've ever used so if you're having trouble with it then something else is wrong...ARCCAPTAIN flux core is better than Lincoln NR-211
It's been suggested that I need to switch polarity...I gotta try DCEP because guys are saying that flux core stainless runs better on DCEP with high voltage
I don't do enough stainless to lease another tank....it has been suggested that stainless flux core runs best on DCEP so I gotta try again on that polarity
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It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
I live up here in Michigan where there are tons of outside wood boilers. They usually have SS water jackets and they crack from expansion and contraction over time. I have switched to Stainless mig wire and Tri mix gas due to time it takes/saves. Had to relearn mig welding almost. I learned it was “get a puddle and GO!” Type of welding or it gobs up.
As always great video!
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@larryvollmar8763 good to see this. I have a boiler job coming up and trying different processes to see what would work best. Thx!
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Thank you CB for a complete honest review when the equipment doesn’t do exactly what it should. Or maybe it shouldn’t.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
@ I’m curious to see the results of switching polarity.
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@@NBSWELDING oh yea, you know I already watched that.
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as a mere mortal, it was strangely comforting watching you struggle at the beginning:)
appreciate the honesty of you including all of it in your video, JB
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Nice creative build.
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Problem solved. Thanks for the videos.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
Great video... Sometimes learning throws ya a curve ball. Knowledge gained from that curve is time well spent. Thanks for sharing, CB.👍
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Job very well-done SIR!
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It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
Hey CB, thanks for showing us the new products and real world results. Keep up the great work. I hope you and your family have a Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for sharing
It been suggested that the stainless wire may run better on DCEP...so I gotta try switching polarity and see how that does
Thanks for the education on working with stainless steel. I’ve done very little stainless work. You brought some very good points across about mig different wires and heat and wire speed. I don’t have any inverter type of welders. However, I’m thinking very seriously about learning to tig and if I do I’ll be going with an arc captain machine. Thanks again for your videos the content is extremely helpful.
The TIG200P is the best TIG I've ever used
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What I was taught in school for welding was it goes Short Circuit and then globular transfer is the state of the wire before it gets to being hot enough to be a spray arc I was taught that globular transfer is good for horizontal and flat and I have not heard that term globular transfer in a long time you either hear short-circuit or spray arc or pulse spray and now they got this new thing called double pulse at least I'm just now hearing about it
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support
FYI... I've run .035 Stainless Steel wire in my Miller Spoolgun on the 252 before with good results. Ran it with tri-mix gas and around 24-25 volts, 450-475 ipm. 👍
Really good to see this. I have a Lincoln spoolgun for my Ranger 300DLX engine drive and I'm going to try some. 030 and .035 with 75/25 gas aswell as some stainless wire and straight argon gas for working mobile jobs. Thx kaxtell281 👍
Great tip!
I had high hopes for the flux core stainless based on their other flux core wire. Looks good and thanks for the no BS info!
It's been suggested that I should try the flux core stainless in DCEP...maybe that would help...I hope to try and see soon
McDoneified. I just added a new word to my vocabulary. Thanks C.B.
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I've ran alot of stainless flux core, it was dual shield .045. It was lincoln wire i believe. I was building bumpers for the coal pier dock in Norfolk virginia. I attached stainless 3/4 nuts to steel dock bumpers. The nuts attached umhw plastic to the steel panels. It welded beautiful. Gas was 100 argon, gave me a headache after a 10 hr shift.
Good info...hate to hear it made ya get a headache...that sucks
Carbide annular cutter is the answer for holes in SS pipe or tube, especially as big as you were cutting
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Man this is a very good vidio, thank you sir and have a blessed day America
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Great suggestion!
Again, great video.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
@NBSWELDING that is correct for stainless flux core. Even the blue demon wire that i use requires it.
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Good info thanks CB
You bet
Thanks again cb appreciate your videos
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Excellent Vid C.B. Answered the question pretty well. Additionally, I digress, I think you're onto something. I believe the .025 'maaaaaay' be the answer for that machine. Would really like to hear how that works out with you in another video on SS down the road. Inquiring minds alike would want to know. Cheers. Keep 'em coming!!
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
@ I see now that ‘some’ S/S wires do require that; like Blue Demon.
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It’s the gas cb you need the right tri mix and I can’t remember what I found was the optimal but it had a fair amount of helium in it as far as I can remember I haven’t done anything in quite a while with mig sst most of the stuff I’ve welded in the rail car industry that was sst was either flux core with co2 and 75/25 or sst stick! Haven’t really miged it since the 90’s or early 2000’s now I don’t weld for a living when I run into a side project It was tig or stick sst. Side note your flux is electrode positive I believe
Yes....I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon
I don't MIG enough stainless to lease a tank of tri mix although that gas is much better for stainless...I'd get it if I needed to do more
Didn't notice if you mentioned what polarity you used with the stainless flux core wire, but the self shielded runs on reverse polarity (DCEP). You also need to be up around 23-24 volts minimum... it's definitely not a low voltage wire. It's possible the wire could be trash, but I'm thinking your polarity and voltage could have been the problem.
I am also curious if that was in fact welded with DCEP. The brand I own calls for that polarity only on their 308 flux core.
I gotta try DCEP...hopefully that was the problem
I gotta try DCEP....hopefully that will fix the issues I was having
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@@NBSWELDING yep, I'm pretty sure swapping to dcep will make a big difference in the profile of the bead. It's been a long time since I used it, but I seem to recall it looking like a ball on the end of the wire while you're welding... So don't be alarmed if it looks odd because it's kind of just how the stuff runs.
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Great info here! I have been working with this a little and appreciate this video. Thx CB.
Some have suggested that the flux core stainless wire runs better on DCEP...I gotta try that because I was on DCEN
@NBSWELDING Ok I will try that too. I have some of the Blue Demon stainless flux core wire. Thx again.
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Good to know the capability of the MiG 200 while using the stainless flux core wire. Thanks. 👍🏼
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
Great job love your videos
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Enjoyed the video as always, brother
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Try reversing the polarity with flux core stainless. DCEP works much better.
I will try that...thanks
That brings up another point about the MIG 145...the way it's setup with the wire feed it's not very easy to run anything on DCEP....Might have to take something apart inside the machine
I could try DCEP easily with the MIG 200 though
Great content greetings from denmark
Hey, thanks!
Interesting nice End result thank you for sharing like you said it’s not really a pipe supplying rocket fuel to the space shuttle it’s water it’s more than good enough
Cheers from Nova Scotia
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I think you said 100% Ar.
I've used 308 ss wire that called for 98-2 Ar-O, and I got what I think was spray transfer (never did spray before). I'm going to try it with 100% Ar to see how that works. Tri mix was (is) $$.
Great video. Thanks!
Yes I used pure argon...tri-mix would be better but I don't do stainless enough to lease a tank of it
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Dc tig is my bread maker with odd ball repair work.
I don't have any use for DC TIG
@NBSWELDING I'm like one of the only guys that still does it in my area. It's great for intricate repair of tool and die and small part fabrication repair.
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I wonder how it would do running it as dual sheild.
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
I know one thing is he doesn't give you any bullshit when it comes to welding
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It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
@@NBSWELDING will be watching for it when you get time
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I agree that if it passes a pressure check, MIG;in this application, is just fine. One question: Did I understand you correctly, that you were using 100% argon? I know you can use 75/25 but tri-mix is the correct choice. I recently ordered and used some Lincoln Ultra-Core gas shielded flux core on a DOT bumper repair on a Great Dane trailer. Loved it. It calls for 75/25. Thanks CB.
I used argon...I don't have tri-mix ....I don't do enough stainless to lease a tank of tri-mix
@ Yes, I understand. Neither do I. I know that 75/25 will work but it reduces your corrosion resistance.
Hey Cb. Mabey you could have stick welded it? Great video, thanks
Sure could have but wouldn't have learned anything...I've sticked lots of stainless...pretty easy
I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon
Would tri mix gas help?
Tri mix is better for stainless MIG but I don't do it enough to get a tank of that
Found out that the stainless flux core has to be ran on DCEP...video correction on that will be out soon
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I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon
On solid core 308 what gas do u run I have done it Tri gas and its pricey on 304 stainless but it works great !! I see you don't back purge with argon inside the tube so your going to have surging inside the pipe and this will cause lot of rusting in the future please let me know if I'm wrong !
I used argon and I don't do enough stainless to bother getting tri-mix gas...this stainless line is gonna be connected to over 50ft of plain black iron pipe that supplies it so a little corrosion inside the stainless is not even worth worrying about.
If it mattered that much I would have back gas purged and used TIG but in this case that would have been a waste of time
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When drilling stainless steel use Texas Pete or Franks hot sauce for bit lube ...Laugh if you want but it does work
"I put that sh!t on everything!"
Frank's hot sauce? Seriously? Seems kinda weird to try as a cutting fluid. I wonder how that began? 🤔😄
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@@tdotw77 I said the same thing when i saw a greassy ass bottle of texas pete on my buddies drill press Lol
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Is there any liquid that wouldn't work?...I don't think you'd get a different result if you compared hot sauce to plain vinegar really
I wonder how that wire would run if you preheat?! Have you ever welded stainless with an oxy acetylene welding torch?! I love welding with a torch.
Never welded stainless with oxy/acetylene....guys are suggesting that the stainless flux core runs better on DCEP so I gotta try that because I was on DCEN
Wonder if it’s just the arccaptain wire? Cause the flux I got w my mig200 from them wasn’t the best, switched to some diff brand flux core , welded a lot better 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@yenerm114 I found out that the stainless flux core wire has to be ran on DCEP...video correction will be posted on that issue soon.
The ARCCAPTAIN flux core wire for regular carbon steel is the best flux core I've ever used so if you're having trouble with it then something else is wrong...ARCCAPTAIN flux core is better than Lincoln NR-211
@ just watched the video 🤘🏼🤘🏼👌🏼
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less stickout/ more stickout?
It's been suggested that I need to switch polarity...I gotta try DCEP because guys are saying that flux core stainless runs better on DCEP with high voltage
@@NBSWELDING interesting. some flux core wires do run on deep. I will look in one of my welding books to check on SS wires.
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You would have had better luck running a tri-mix gas with stainless. Argon, CO2 and helium.
I don't do enough stainless to lease another tank....it has been suggested that stainless flux core runs best on DCEP so I gotta try again on that polarity
@ If I need tri-mix I will rent a bottle and cost it to the job.
I can't get it that easy here...if I wanted it I'd have to lease a tank for a year
CB i was going to leave a thumbs up but there is only a thumbs down box at the bottom of the video ???
Dunno on that one...there should be a like button with a thums up...everybody else including me has one...it's been liked 159 times so far
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Almost behaving like it's a dual Shield just for shits and giggles try it with some gas if you want I bet that porosity goes away
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
@NBSWELDING I didn't think about polarities that could be it
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In my experience, stainless is pure misery no matter what you do. Tig vs Mig?, don't make it artsy unless the intent is art. Go for function!
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Stick with an American welder 😂
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Good info!
It has been suggested that I should have been running the stainless flux core on DCEP so maybe that was why it didn't work well. I was running it on DCEN like I do all other flux core so I'll hafta try it on DCEP to see if it performs better that way.
@ love to see the results if you have the time and resources. Thanks
@@earlcavenaugh6459 video will be posted on it soon
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