I know we can't win in this era, Carats, but there's still a chance next comeback! Seventeen said that this comeback is not seeking for the win, but a gift for fans. So, we should return their gift to get them a win next comeback and support them by streaming and vote for them! I know we can do this, Carats! ^^
*SEVENTEEN* makes their own *music + choreography*, perform *FLAWLESSLY*, are one of the most *humble, genuine,* and *talented* groups out there yet they havn't been able to snag even *ONE WIN*...THEY ARE A *GROUP* THAT *SELF PRODUCES* EVERY *ASPECT* OF THEIR *MUSIC* UNLIKE *MOST OTHER GROUPS*...This is so honestly so *disappointing*...
lol Yo, I said "most" other groups I did not mean Gfriend...i'm not downgrading the winners...I'm just saying Seventeen should have one once THROUGHOUT their promotion... that is all
+Emi Irwin Lol... but they wont complaining doesnt have any use stream their songs but their album... their albums sales is only like 60k now.. around the same as their debut album sales
lol I know complaining won't really fix anything but...I just want to shed some light on my opinion because I just wanted to say it, it was on my mind so I wanted to express it
Is it just me or does it seem like for the first time in these promotions that they didn't use a backing track with their voices in it? Today everything sounded quite different but I liked it more to be honest
this is definitely live. Their voices are really clear you can tell they are live because the "Woah" part in the second chorus are not (never) prerecorded. They sang it live
+Jessica Nguyen the fact that it's so clear is more indicative of a pre-recording though? and minghao's part at 1:11 is quite blatantly autotuned lol. again, this is not to say that seventeen can't sing live; they are excellent performers and sing live 9 times out of 10. this just happens to be that tenth time.
Dokyoem is my bias in seventeen too . Omg he is Killing me with his charms . He is also a boy whose vocal ability is high and very good , so doubt that he can reach Super high notes
I wish Seventeen would win with this song but somehow it's always Wonder Girls, Gfriend or Beast... Not that they don't deserve to win but Very Nice is such a great song and they just don't win. I knew it'd be hard at Music Bank because of the Sketchbook incident but why can't they win on other shows? And why aren't they performing at The Show?
i know this is hard to accept but dearest carats, THEY WILL WIN NO. 1 ! Believe in them, guys 😘 They are so different than others, legends or not in every aspects. Dont forget that they are just a year and 2 months old 👶
I don't know if anybody noticed but in 0:10 you can see the smile of Mingyu due to the fanchants in DK's part 😍 for some reason this makes me so happy and proud of the fans 🎉💙 if only I could be there to sing those fanchants to make all of them smile 💙💙💙
Seventeen need to work on their digital = they need to get the korean public to know and care about them. Always doing things "for fans" is not enough. They have good album sales (3rd behind Exo & BTS, only 1 year after their debut) but their digital is too weak. They need to attract teenage boys and adults, while keeping that Seventeen color to their music. While I-fans are always saying that nothing has been better than Adore U so far, I'm pretty sure their most known/popular song in Korea is Mansae. Like, it's fun, not overly cute and easy to remember. Everyone was doing the Mansae dance during its era. And while I-fans also think Pretty U is their weakest main song, I think it really helped them because the choreo was awesome. And almost each perf was different. Personally, I found it more interesting to watch than Very Nice... Anyway, Seventeen are really talented and they deserve more attention from the public. Getting the average citizen to know them should be their priority imo.
17diamonds17 yep...shame aju nice cant- i swear what koreans seem to love with svt is the exact opposite of i-fans. Personally I liked Pretty U more but I though Aju Nice was a stronger comeback? does that make sense...
Pretty U: When it came out, I was disappointed. I watched the showcase live and they showed the MV first and it was such a let down...then they did the perf and I was like "Wow, is it really the same song?". Then they promoted it for a month and they always changed things to the choreo so I was really looking out for each perf "I wonder how it will be today!!!" and well, now I really like the song. Very Nice: When the teasers came out, I thought this was gonna be like the best song ever and I was really excited. Then it came out...and I was still very excited but I couldn't help but think that while the chorus was really exciting, the rest of the song could have been better. And about the choreo, it's cool, very tiring, perfectly in sync and all, but I don't know...it's not that fun to watch after a few times. The 1st week was enough. I'm not that excited about the perfs anymore. I still watch them for the clothes actually ^^ I don't really know how to say it...it's a good song and a good choreo...but I'm ready for a new era tbh. PS: Sorry for the long rant(?). I have a lot of feels about Seventeen XD
"Always doing things "for fans" is not enough." oh my god shut up? they're just a 1 y/o group, relax, they'll have their time. i'm sure pressuring them isn't gonna increase their digital sales and make them popular. people have such high expectations of seventeen when they've already accomplished so much. also no one knows about mansae, pretty u is their most popular song but international fans didn't like it for whatever reason. songs like pretty u are way more public-friendly than very nice/mansae. fans want seventeen to improve their digitals but at the same time complain when they release public-friendly songs? you can't have it both ways.
some fans are so ungrateful. seventeen themselves didn't expect to win with this comeback (repackages tend to not do as well as regular albums). just continue supporting them, buy their albums, stream their songs/mvs, vote, etc. hopefully next time pledis will have better timing and not make them come back in the same week as big seniors like wonder girls/beast or digital monsters such as gfriend/twice. seventeen have already achieved so much, stop being greedy. winning on music shows isn't everything. they've gained a lot of new fans this era so it's not like it was all in vain. seventeen are still rookies, they'll have their breakthrough. just enjoy their remaining performances before they leave for their asia tour. they'll have more wins in the future (and hopefully as 13 again)
Yeah I agree. And their "group" was still very young (cuz they debuted in 2015) compared to the other seniors. And I do believe,They will accomplish more award's in the future:)
I like how there are no dance holes in Seventeen. Like how are they all such good dancers? And this kind of performance, wow, it's like I'm watching a musical.
I don't why but I think show champion seems to be the best camera work for me. not too dizzy nor changes camera so fast or whatever. and focuses the members who sings while the dance is also being shown clearly. no too much effects or movements of the camera which shows off SEVENTEEN's amazing choreography.
I think this is the biggest problem for our boys. They have good physical sales (3rd to Exo & BTS). Could it be due to the fact that since most fans already pre-ordered/ordered that the need to download and stream is less?
that's right, always win about physical sales, but lower with digital :( i'm sad cause i can't do streaming on melon. I just can support them by bought they album, streaming on youtube also vote on show champ. But i can't do streaming :"( i want to do that I really want to do that, really need someone who knows how to do that and sit beside me, teach me until i can do that (about digital streaming). I already read the tutorial and i just make 1 account, just it. I'm sad i can't help them more.. i'm too stupid about that -_-
Did joshua had sweet chocolates before this proformances??... Cause his voice!!! 😍😍😍😍😍he really gotta stop.. My bias is jungkook he is tricking with my mind!!! 😭 i don t wanna change my bias(jungkook) but I can t help.. 😝😛😛😄
So I just randomly played this video at 1×7.5 speed and ...... whoa I'm dead like when carats are sing along it was so great and Dino and Vernon's part so so good and also while The8's part came it was like a robot singing lol so I recommend you to watch this video sped up
![[SHOWCHAMPION] 세븐틴 - 아주 NICE (SEVENTEEN - VERY NICE) l EP.193](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/K2Y3LF4ZHIo/mqdefault.jpg)
![[SHOWCHAMPION] 세븐틴 - 아주 NICE (SEVENTEEN - VERY NICE) l EP.193](/img/tr.png)
![[SHOWCHAMPION] 세븐틴 - 예쁘다 (SEVENTEEN - Pretty U) l EP.187](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SBtPpC3GIfM/mqdefault.jpg)
![[미공개영상] 세븐틴 '아주NICE(Very NICE)' 슈퍼콘서트 미방송 무대 독점공개! (SEVENTEEN UNBROADCASTED STAGE)](/img/1.gif)
Bless the cameraman for every Jun's appearance.
Bless the dimple of S.coups and Dino's wink.
Jun was given more camera time in this live and damn i'm dead. Yes, bless this cameraman
+Anitasis i'm dead too. 😂😢
Dokyeom is damn fine 😍 how he hit those high notes easily? (( such a bias wrecker ))
I knooooooow right? Damn his vocals. :) He's my bias. Ugh. Hihi
I agree, he is fine as hell.
I love you dokyeom
I swear, they're killing every performance!
first: i agree ^^
second: omg your name made laugh so hard XD
third: me neither XD no one can handle hobis booty
Killin me 2 😂
DK's vocals are AMAZING. You could tell straight away in 'Adore U'
Jihoon in the thumbnail is life.
his whole existance is life tbh
ummmmmm que bien ummm ¿¿
ウジ君かわいすぎ‼
Alice 나나미 それな!!😂
分かる、めっちゃ分かる
1:03 that facial expression change
Dino: I’m cute
Dino again: what the shit are you looking at?
I know we can't win in this era, Carats, but there's still a chance next comeback! Seventeen said that this comeback is not seeking for the win, but a gift for fans. So, we should return their gift to get them a win next comeback and support them by streaming and vote for them! I know we can do this, Carats! ^^
👍👍👍👍
true
pretty much means comeback lol
so Mansae Era would included everything they did in that comeback, all their promotions and shows, etc.
we need to return the gift for our babys ❤
O my gawd i love this fandom
I LOVE THE GUY IN RED PANTS 😂😂
I love that guy with suspenders 💙💙
I love the guy with the smile
Meh I prefer the guy in suspenders
omg I totally love the guy with white socks 😍💘
the one with black shoes is cuter!
*SEVENTEEN* makes their own *music + choreography*, perform *FLAWLESSLY*, are one of the most *humble, genuine,* and *talented* groups out there yet they havn't been able to snag even *ONE WIN*...THEY ARE A *GROUP* THAT *SELF PRODUCES* EVERY *ASPECT* OF THEIR *MUSIC* UNLIKE *MOST OTHER GROUPS*...This is so honestly so *disappointing*...
Lol other groups do it too.. stop downgrading the winners
lol Yo, I said "most" other groups I did not mean Gfriend...i'm not downgrading the winners...I'm just saying Seventeen should have one once THROUGHOUT their promotion... that is all
+Emi Irwin Lol... but they wont complaining doesnt have any use stream their songs but their album... their albums sales is only like 60k now.. around the same as their debut album sales
lol I know complaining won't really fix anything but...I just want to shed some light on my opinion because I just wanted to say it, it was on my mind so I wanted to express it
Emi Irwin lol by downgrading other groups.. not a good choice
아니 우리 지훈이!우지가!! 헙!이란 표정을 하고 오케이 사인을 하고 있는데 어케 안들어와 썸네일 누가 만들었냐 상 줘야돼 상
Is it just me or does it seem like for the first time in these promotions that they didn't use a backing track with their voices in it? Today everything sounded quite different but I liked it more to be honest
it's pre-recorded I believe :) not to degrade them of course, they can't sing live all the time.
this is definitely live. Their voices are really clear you can tell they are live because the "Woah" part in the second chorus are not (never) prerecorded. They sang it live
+Jessica Nguyen the fact that it's so clear is more indicative of a pre-recording though? and minghao's part at 1:11 is quite blatantly autotuned lol. again, this is not to say that seventeen can't sing live; they are excellent performers and sing live 9 times out of 10. this just happens to be that tenth time.
+superjo16 well it could be some part that its prerecorded. it is still live. they might still sing it with their voices. im just saying.
+Jessica Nguyen
Pre-Recorded vocals are used because it's harder to tell when they lipsync. This was mostly pre-recorded, you could tell.
LISTEN TO THOSE DAMN FANCHANTS
minghao has been so cute & extra on stage this era carats are sHOOK
yeah my baby is cute😍
I'm really inlove with the boy who wears red pants and black shoes
Honestly, me too. so freaking bad.
i love the one with suspenders
We all love them
Me too af 💘
the one with the white shirt is my favorite, so handsome 😍
HOLY SMOKES SCOUPS NO.!!!! 2:10... U CANT DO THAT TO US!!! MY HEART IS ON FIRE UR SMILE IS SO PRECIOUS ITS SO ADORABLE
Dokyoem is my bias in seventeen too . Omg he is Killing me with his charms . He is also a boy whose vocal ability is high and very good , so doubt that he can reach Super high notes
1:40 why so cute jun~
cause of death: jun
Dino slays this dance
벌써 이곡 4년전이네..
세븐틴이 얼마나 대단한데..5년! 10년 더 오래가자! 세븐틴 화이팅 !!
와 역시 셉틴이야 근데 셉틴 만큼 캐럿들이 대단해❤ 응원 목소리 봐바.. 응원 목소리 겁나 커👍
ㅇㅈ이요👍
Dino at 1:03 the duality is amazing. His first face is before 30 and the second is after 30
everytime dino hip thrusts i can hear jeonghan saying dino nugu aegi?
*I DONT WANT THIS ERA TO END* I LOVE 아주 NICE SO MUCH ♥
same omg
歌上手すぎ(=^^=)
Ahh, it has always been "official outfit" in Show Champion. No special day to any members. I wish they would win though.
same same
same :(
+علي ألهادي حازم plss dont start fanwar ^^
+GG
OK I well delete my comments
+GG done
THEY'RE VOCALS ARE AMAZING IN THIS STAGE!! YOU CAN HEAR ALL OF THEIR VOICES PERFECTLY!!! ITS SO CLEAR!! THIS BRINGS ME JOY AND HAPPINESS #SLAYVENTEEN
I wish Seventeen would win with this song but somehow it's always Wonder Girls, Gfriend or Beast... Not that they don't deserve to win but Very Nice is such a great song and they just don't win. I knew it'd be hard at Music Bank because of the Sketchbook incident but why can't they win on other shows? And why aren't they performing at The Show?
exactly
huhu ikr
I know right?!! They were on 4th place once somewheres but didn't win.....😞
hing :'( the fact tht they produce all on their own...
ikr
1:11の声好きすぎるし1:18のお顔がとてつもなく可愛いどうしよう動けない
どうしよう（·_·）
わかりみが深すぎます
마흔후반인데. 이노래 넘 좋다
다만 숨어서 들어야
sokmin so nice and handsome.
That sudden change of expression by Chan at 1:02 made me speechless, the duality omygod
Jun oppa why you'r so beautiful ♡
♥my seventeen fighting love you so much♥
This era is Dokyeom's era. He's so bright in every 아주Nice performance.
Edit: wait, where's Wonwoo?
サムネのうーたん可愛すぎて見てしまった
1:18 The8 why are you like this? That face killed me I DIED. I AM *D E C E A S E D.*
i know this is hard to accept but dearest carats, THEY WILL WIN NO. 1 ! Believe in them, guys 😘 They are so different than others, legends or not in every aspects. Dont forget that they are just a year and 2 months old 👶
Hoshi Dk Minghao and Jun stay slaying my existence. ❤
dino's change in expression in the second verse always hurts me he's such an angel
Seventeen always do their best♡ Thats why im a CARAT♡
으앙!존잘이양!
I don't know if anybody noticed but in 0:10 you can see the smile of Mingyu due to the fanchants in DK's part 😍 for some reason this makes me so happy and proud of the fans 🎉💙 if only I could be there to sing those fanchants to make all of them smile 💙💙💙
@02:29 DK's Nose on point. ON. POINT. DAMN U NOSE HAHAHA
Seventeen need to work on their digital = they need to get the korean public to know and care about them.
Always doing things "for fans" is not enough. They have good album sales (3rd behind Exo & BTS, only 1 year after their debut) but their digital is too weak. They need to attract teenage boys and adults, while keeping that Seventeen color to their music.
While I-fans are always saying that nothing has been better than Adore U so far, I'm pretty sure their most known/popular song in Korea is Mansae. Like, it's fun, not overly cute and easy to remember. Everyone was doing the Mansae dance during its era. And while I-fans also think Pretty U is their weakest main song, I think it really helped them because the choreo was awesome. And almost each perf was different. Personally, I found it more interesting to watch than Very Nice...
Anyway, Seventeen are really talented and they deserve more attention from the public. Getting the average citizen to know them should be their priority imo.
Pretty U had charted quite well digitally. I think better than all their other comebacks
Oh yeah, this too. I remember going on Melon once a day, and Pretty U stayed in the top 50 for a long time ^^
17diamonds17 yep...shame aju nice cant- i swear what koreans seem to love with svt is the exact opposite of i-fans. Personally I liked Pretty U more but I though Aju Nice was a stronger comeback? does that make sense...
Pretty U: When it came out, I was disappointed. I watched the showcase live and they showed the MV first and it was such a let down...then they did the perf and I was like "Wow, is it really the same song?". Then they promoted it for a month and they always changed things to the choreo so I was really looking out for each perf "I wonder how it will be today!!!" and well, now I really like the song.
Very Nice: When the teasers came out, I thought this was gonna be like the best song ever and I was really excited. Then it came out...and I was still very excited but I couldn't help but think that while the chorus was really exciting, the rest of the song could have been better.
And about the choreo, it's cool, very tiring, perfectly in sync and all, but I don't know...it's not that fun to watch after a few times. The 1st week was enough. I'm not that excited about the perfs anymore. I still watch them for the clothes actually ^^
I don't really know how to say it...it's a good song and a good choreo...but I'm ready for a new era tbh.
PS: Sorry for the long rant(?). I have a lot of feels about Seventeen XD
"Always doing things "for fans" is not enough." oh my god shut up? they're just a 1 y/o group, relax, they'll have their time. i'm sure pressuring them isn't gonna increase their digital sales and make them popular. people have such high expectations of seventeen when they've already accomplished so much.
also no one knows about mansae, pretty u is their most popular song but international fans didn't like it for whatever reason. songs like pretty u are way more public-friendly than very nice/mansae. fans want seventeen to improve their digitals but at the same time complain when they release public-friendly songs? you can't have it both ways.
1일 1재생,요즘 이노래 때문에 힘이 남
I thought it was supposed to be Jun's day? Anyway GREAT PERFORMANCE AS ALWAYS! CARATS AND SEVENTEEN, FIGHTING!
아니 잠깐만 이게 4년전 노래라고??!!! 누가 내 4년 루팡해간거야 진짜
00:10 Mingyu's face is pure joy just singing & dancing in the back although he's not the focus
i just bought seventeens album!!!! my first ever korean album
the camera is in love with jun
same
A legend song of kpop...Aju nice
As always Seventeen and Carat the best!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😙😙😙😙😙😙
The camera work was so good in this performance !
some fans are so ungrateful. seventeen themselves didn't expect to win with this comeback (repackages tend to not do as well as regular albums). just continue supporting them, buy their albums, stream their songs/mvs, vote, etc. hopefully next time pledis will have better timing and not make them come back in the same week as big seniors like wonder girls/beast or digital monsters such as gfriend/twice. seventeen have already achieved so much, stop being greedy. winning on music shows isn't everything. they've gained a lot of new fans this era so it's not like it was all in vain.
seventeen are still rookies, they'll have their breakthrough. just enjoy their remaining performances before they leave for their asia tour. they'll have more wins in the future (and hopefully as 13 again)
true, i was just happy that there were five more seventeen songs i could jam to
Yeah I agree. And their "group" was still very young (cuz they debuted in 2015) compared to the other seniors.
And I do believe,They will accomplish more award's in the future:)
I clicked in lightning speed when I saw the thumbnail, woozii😍😍❤️
I really love every vibe of their song❤️❤️❤️
I like the guy with hair
hoshi hoshi hoshi
Aju nice
the fanchants tho wow
Wonwoo!!!😍😍
I love the one with hair
I love the one with the suspenders
I like how there are no dance holes in Seventeen. Like how are they all such good dancers? And this kind of performance, wow, it's like I'm watching a musical.
何度見てもサムネのうーたん可愛い
Jun in this performance 💕💕💕💕💕
okay this was the best camera work i’ve ever seen from a music show
Jun get more screening time. He is so handsome.
I don't why but I think show champion seems to be the best camera work for me. not too dizzy nor changes camera so fast or whatever. and focuses the members who sings while the dance is also being shown clearly. no too much effects or movements of the camera which shows off SEVENTEEN's amazing choreography.
Why do I have a feeling that Show Champion has a special spot in their hearts for seventeen
After 3 years its still a puzzle why dizz masterpiece didn't win. Anyways I love going back to SVT 2016 era
miss this concept of seventeen
Mingyu ganteng bangettt
Fanchants are on points ♥
the fan chants had Me shook more than the performance
stan talent
they have such a good charisma and stage presence!❤️
i'm actually proud that S. Coups did the hand thing right this time
スングァン赤髪最高
the fanchants I'm LIVING
STOP THE FUCKING FAN WARS LETS JUST FOCUS ON GIVING SVT A FIRST WIN. FAN WARS ARE NOT FOR CARATS
Was their any fan war going on? I haven't heard anything
yesterday on show champion livestream
what happened?
+valerie wong some of immature carat throw harsh word to gfriend
黒髪ンギュが好きすぎる…
they're still lacking with digital ;;-;; stream stream on melon, genie etc
I think this is the biggest problem for our boys. They have good physical sales (3rd to Exo & BTS). Could it be due to the fact that since most fans already pre-ordered/ordered that the need to download and stream is less?
+17HokuNui Boygroups usually have lower digital sales and higher physical sales. YG groups, exo, block b and beast are an exception.
that's right, always win about physical sales, but lower with digital :( i'm sad cause i can't do streaming on melon. I just can support them by bought they album, streaming on youtube also vote on show champ. But i can't do streaming :"( i want to do that I really want to do that, really need someone who knows how to do that and sit beside me, teach me until i can do that (about digital streaming). I already read the tutorial and i just make 1 account, just it. I'm sad i can't help them more.. i'm too stupid about that -_-
seventeen #67 on melon, and GFriend #3 on melon. Ofcourse... digital is everything :( but now it's already #49. still far from top #10
+찬라라 you can follow on twitter 17hwaiting or u can donate to buy stream pass, it is many ways to increase their digital
I click the like button before the video started
Their dancing always melts my face off
Every time when S.coups stare at the camera, it is sooooo damn perfect and i am like OMG he is so beautiful!!!
jeonghan ❤ Seventeen and Carat fighting! we can make them win next time ❤
Aju nice❤❤❤❤❤
NORMALLY I ONLY LIKE DARK CONCEPTS BUT THIS WILL BE THE ONLY CUTE CONCEPT I WILL ADORE
Can we take a moment to appreciate the perfect voice of Woozi cutie ;;
Jun's eye contact with the camera is killing me 😍😍 oh and I was waiting for him to do the kick but he didn't lollol
Did joshua had sweet chocolates before this proformances??... Cause his voice!!! 😍😍😍😍😍he really gotta stop.. My bias is jungkook he is tricking with my mind!!! 😭 i don t wanna change my bias(jungkook) but I can t help.. 😝😛😛😄
ウジ♡かっこいい！
The fan-chants so loud !!! So proud !!!
SVT MAKE EVERY STAGE ARE FUN..❤
スングァンLOVE！！
I love that guy who has a hair
ダンスや衣装に目を奪われるけれど、
ブーちゃんとDKの高音でしっかりと
聴かせてくれる✨
Very nice👍✨
So I just randomly played this video at 1×7.5 speed and ...... whoa I'm dead like when carats are sing along it was so great and Dino and Vernon's part so so good and also while The8's part came it was like a robot singing lol so I recommend you to watch this video sped up
words like 'ultimate bias' does not exist in carats world
the struggle is real!!!!!!!!