Wing Chun POWER development - simultaneous joint movements
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2017
- www.mindfulwingchun.online
CST explains and demonstrates how to control the joints of the body simultaneously to maximize power and efficiency in all movements.
*A note about this channel the lineage:
Sifu Nima King is the owner and team leader of Mindful Wing Chun, a CST Wing Chun school in Hong Kong with affiliations around the world. Mindful Wing Chun is wholeheartedly dedicated to passing on the internal wing chun method as passed down by Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin who was the longest serving student of Grandmaster Ip Man. Chu Shong Tin lived with Ip Man for 5 years (1950-1955) and was coined the title ' the king of siu nim tao' by his master Ip Man.
He was a legend in the world of Wing Chun (in particular the internal method of wing chun) and spent 64years passing it on full-time before he passed away in 2014. Nim King practiced under hin in Hong Kong for 9 years and established Mindful Wing Chun under CST's guidance. Nima is also on the board of Directors for the 'Chu Shong Tin Alumni' which is a group of senior students of CST that were hand picked by him to establish the Alumni and to uphold and continue his teachings and Wing Chun legacy after he passed away.
Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin was a very humble and low-key Wing Chun Master therefore its only after we began putting his videos online, that people started to hear about him. In fact, majority of the main Wing CHun teachers (of the Ip Man lineage) who began practice in the 50s and early 60s (apart of Leung Sheung and Lok Yiu) were trained by CST even-though they were Ip Man's students. This is due to CST being the most snr and main teacher of Ip Man's school in those days.
Nima was lucky to start his practice under CST in 2005 because that's when CST decided to change his teaching to all internal practice so that he can pass on "Nim Tao' and 'Nim Lik' (the mind power/energy cultivated through internal Wing Chun practice) to his students.
Nima, even though a non-chinese and much younger than the other students of CST, attained a high level of these final teachings. He now mainly teaches the seniors within this lineage and also travels around giving workshops and is working on an online program so that master CST's teaching can have a greater reach.
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Thanks for sharing this video. I love the explanations. For me, the upper spine control was the hardest part to attain. All those years of office work made my shoulders and back really stiff. CST's video reminds me of an old exercise I used to do. I would have someone hold my elbow, and while retracting my elbow, I do huern sau, tan, wu, bong, until elbow is fully retracted. Then do the same but extending my elbow all the way forward. The exercise helped me gain control the elbow while moving the forearm independently.
That's great, thanks so much for sharing that. Hope you're still keeping up your practice and improving with time...
It's always amazing to watch Sigung, but your explanations makes everything so much clearer! I really hope you release an online course or dvds. I know long distance learning has its limitations, but the way you explain things really helps a lot! Thank you so much! Cheers
hopefully one day!
Mh goi! Your teachings really help clarify the things I hear so often from WC sifu.
I've heard "relax" from a million WC teachers but only CST could explain what I've been hoping to achieve by relaxing and only you could further extrapolate his teachings for an English speaker.
Physically, I turn to other sources for explanations and methods of the WSL WC I learn, but for s deeper understanding of how the human body expresses the nim tao of our techniques- your channel will always be the first source!
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Msai! :) My pleasure mate and very glad to hear that you find this channel useful in your journey. Wong Shun Leung's lineage is a great one and I have so much respect for him and what he achieved for Wing Chun
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Hi Nima, I have a feeling I can do these things already, although I have never done Wing Chun. At higher levels of aikido, I think we reach the same point as your Sifu. However, there are very few who can do it... You can count them on the fingers of one hand. It helped me to study in the Huang Shen Shyan tradition where we relax all the joints for each two hour session, knees bent the whole time. No strength in arms. Never.
Hey Keni. Sounds very interesting. One of my students, Richard Robertson, is a registered 4th Dan Aikido practitioner through the Aiki Kai headquarters in Tokyo. I practised Takemusu style for 2 decades as taught to me by Takeyasu sensei (7th Dan at aikidoaus.com.au), a student of Saito sensei, whom was the principal student of the founder of Aikido- Morihei Ueshiba. He moved from Aikido to WC after meeting CST in HK around 7years ago and is training with me now. He also mentioned some very interesting things about high levels of Aikido. Im very interested to feel it
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Aikido energy is wind energy. It is harder to sense "center"; their spine [if truly advanced and internal] often feels like a blade of grass. They do not "accept" energy as we do, but move in "harmony" with us. They also use "passing" [the circular 90 degree stepping to vacate space for throws]. These ideas wed very well to Wing Chun, especially since Wing Chun entries allow easier transitions into Aikido techniques.
But it's distinctly different energy, just as Taiji uses "pushing" and "grounding" rather than "center" and "wedging".
Thanks! I was waiting for new video!)
My pleasure, more on the way :)
lol...love the high 5 at 13:40. watch at 13:30
Haha, yeah that's such a Chris (the guy high fiving) thing to do, and Chu Shong Tin is a child at heart. It's so funny cause after this seminar we took Chu Shong Tin and his wife out to a Chinese banquet for dinner and Chris sat next to him and taught him how to play thumb wars and Chu Shong Tin easily beat him at it while they were both laughing. Great soul he was...
Sensation wise, if it's what I think, rather than being pushed or pulled, you feel like your space has been invaded.
It feels like how no 2 objects can occupy the same space at the same time, and that the other person simply took the space, which expelled you out. Depending on the explosiveness of the stealing of space, it can send people flying.
Part of it I think is using the joints to apply arcs in a linear fashion.
Movement looks straight, but it's several arcs moving at once to create what seems like a straight motion. Arc of the shoulder plus the hinge of the elbow makes a "straight" forward motion. But it's not a straight driving force. If you straight drive, it isolates motion down to normally just shoulder rotation.
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I wanted to add, I think this made something click for me. For a while I've been doing something, but unaware as to why it worked. I could just move my limbs through someone pressing full force into me, or send someone flying back with ease. And as I said, sensation wise, it feels more like stealing space than it does being pushed. The one on the receiving end just suddenly feels like they've been swept in a wave or like they were just suddenly freefalling for no apparent reason. I called this method stretch power, because I viewed it as I was simply stretching through a target.
I would use this same method as a glue to hold my joints together, creating a stretch through my legs and through my spine, and directing the center of gravity through a similar method and sending out the limbs to strike by well, stretching them forward.
But after watching this, and thinking for a bit, I decided to analyze my movements, and it helped me realize that my stretching mechanic is actually using the rotation of joints simultaneously. It's almost like my arm was a hose and I'm sending water through, the whole thing just straightens out to discharge force.
Thanks very much for taking the time to share with us. I'm glad you picked something helpful up from this video
In this instance, you are using "Pressure". This is indeed one of the ideas central to Wing Chun. It is NOT "pushing" energy as in Taiji. For the opponent, it is more like being swept back by a "wave" as you describe. I have used this in duress against multiple opponents, without fully understanding it [I was trained in Wing Chun at a very young age]. It doesn't feel as if effort is going into the movement, but people fly backward. This is a "water" gift.
My wife described one such instance where a man rushed me and with one movement of my wrist he flew backward heel over head around 15 feet. I went a bit "grey" as I had been randomly attacked and there were four other people trying to hold or push me while I advanced [they were unable to affect my movement due to "wedging" and "centering" NOT use of "grounding" force]. I do vaguely remember him disappearing in the brush off the side of the road.
"Pressure" can also fill your joints as you describe much like a fire hose filled with pressure.
Centering is a "mind" gift.
Use "expanding" [wind gift] in the Crane form [fluttering arms outward] and hidden also in Wing Chun to add to this effect and that of others. There are many "ideas" [kinds of chi] within these forms. Isolate each, then add them into a whole.
But understand: those who lack these gifts cannot produce such an effect [though Chu Shong Tin sometimes lent his chi energy to his students to feel the effect]. Done correctly, you will eventually feel a flow of your inner energy. Ignore those who attack these truths because they work against truth itself. There are MANY kinds of chi.
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What is the difference in term of internal work between these and Yang Style Taijiquan?
Can they be complementary?
Top stuff.
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Hi Nima, thanks for sharing! A question about the joint movement and...qi. What do you think the relationship between this two concept? For joint movements, it's comparatively easy to understand based on anatomy knowledge. And qi somehow is "magic ". However, I'm very impressed by SLT demo about qi and Lim li, from your former clip. And this clip reminds me the question I have before.
Hi, The relationship would be that one can only utilize the joints in this way (said in the video) if the joints are relaxed and there is at least a low level of Nim Tao activation. so when someone can do this, they will be on the right track and all they would need to do (easier said than done), is to continue mindfully relaxing deeper and deeper until the Qi (Nim Lik) is released and flowing within the body. So we can say that both are on the same track of mindful relaxation but to use Nim Lik (Qi) the level of relaxation must be much higher. Hope this makes sense :)
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Thanks.
I agree with the way it is done here, but when in a fight, how much power will the palm or a fist do? As the main focus is the elbow and joint movements... (maybe I misheard it soemwhere in the video?)
The fist and Palm are the outlets for the power not the engine themselves. so if done correctly, they should have a lot of power :)
Would say this is all just a breakdown of individual body mechanics for connecting power, not for generating power, although the method has a level of power in it by itself, just not substantial in the realm of impact power. But it would give you strong control over the opponent.
By understanding this method and applying it to the entire body as a whole, while driving your movements from the center of gravity, and using these methods to simply connect your center to the target you should have a very high amount of power.
The methods here I would say more so, make the transfer of power more efficient rather than actually creating power. If the center of gravity is your engine, this method is the gears that connect the power of your engine to the target.
That's my understanding at least.
I have conditioned and learned how to break brick with a palm strike, so it is possible to generate enough power to do serious and even fatal damage once one learns the proper way.
Just an idea you can easily Relax your bicep muscle when you are laying down and raising the up using your elbow joint just an idea
Yeah doing things like that may give the person an insight into what a relaxed joint may feel like. I used to practice (doing my forms and kicking) in swimming pools for this reason. But once you stand up and have to deal with gravity under normal circumstances you'll still need to be able to relax the muscles (especially when under incoming pressure from an opponent)
I love at 3:50 "who are the instructors here? You can come up here and try" Oh you the clueless guy . . .
haha, yeah he's not an instructor at our school :)
Did CST ever speak of Dantian?
Yes, he said that in Wing Chun we do not cultivate a=energy or think about the Dantien. We work with the spine
Hard to follow/understand when 2 people are talking at once.
yeah its not ideal...
These guys should be the only ones to teach. As all the others are fraud
perhaps most people are wholeheartedly trying their best to teach what they know, and so they end up making good relationships with their students and set a good culture which may help their students in many way emotionally, mentally etc. Even if what they're teaching isn't optimal, they may be making a good impact on some lives.
But yeah just like any other service, there are some frauds out there who have very selfish intentions and do and say whatever to get what they want.