rjn turned from a good reviewer to a meme with all this aim\grip\mouse ratio theories that work only for him and he states them as a fact. Also i feel like he lost inspiration.
Hi, do you think this mouse would be good for 17,5x9cm hands for claw/pincer grip? I'm waiting for the wireless version to come out and i'm not sure if it would suit me well. Could you tell me the size of your hand to have perspective of the size of the mouse? Great video btw, very nice and detailed review
I main the S2-C currently. I think it should be the go-to shape for claw grip and you can never go wrong with it. It can actually feel pretty gpx-esque in hand, just with a more prominent hump and thinner grip.
@@KraftyCraftKraf i realy enjoyed the the s2-c when i tried it but i felt it was a bit heavy adn the cable altho a good one did still bother me so i resorted to my gpx again lol. so hard to find the perfect mouse lol
I have. The shape felt good in hand and it was very comfortable. The side curvature works well for claw grip and supports your hand well without forcing your fingers into too deep into the grooves. I didn't have any problem with the optical clicks either. However, it is a long mouse with a diamond-shaped hump towards the back that has a pretty wide flare. When mice reach their highest point towards the back, they feel longer in hand than they are on paper. This made the mouse too long for my 18*9cm hands and I had a hard time with precision control so I returned it. It felt great for browsing though because the curves were so comfy. If your hands are bigger than mine, I think it could work out well for you. If they made a smaller KPA, I would probably use it over the GPX.
Great review! Once I paracorded my NP01s the difference was night and day for sure. It’s definitely a top 3 mouse for me rn and I’m hyped to see a wireless mouse from them.
The xm1r has been one of my go-to mice for a good while now. I like how the shape is designed and it feels quite premium in hand. Both the xm1 and the np-01s have low fronts, similar lengths, and a prominent rear hump, but the xm1 is a lot wider and fills out your hand much more due to the diamond-shaped back working its way deeper into your palm than the rounded back of the np-01s. This makes the xm1r feel more full and stable in comparison but at the cost of restricting more of your movement. I will likely make a full review of the xm1r soon and go over a few shape comparisons that I feel are particularly relevant.
Would love to see you revisit this mouse with grips and a paracord. Best performing mouse for me so far, and the added width from the grips fixed the fatigue issue for me.
I would definitely recommend the np-01s over the np-01 for your gripstyle. You'll have a much greater range of motion but still have enough of a hump to support your hand when you want it too. However, it feels pretty similar in size to the fk2 so it might give you issues. The back hump is larger and more hand filling, but the rest of the mouse is a little smaller which makes them feel pretty similar in size.
I'd say no Ive mained the mouse with a pincer ft grip but the weight should be lower. Starts to make my finger ache. Still in my top 2 of perfoming mice tho
Those side buttons actually do feel really good. I totally forgot about them because that shape is the least favorite I've ever tried and I did my best to wipe it from my memory. Great buttons though.
Depends what you want. I think the np-01s would still work for 20cm hands because of how long it is. If you want something that feels very thin and like you're holding a pencil, which feels great for aggressive grips, but still gives a little bit of hand support, then the np-01s is a great option. If you want something that feels very wide in the back and fills out the majority of your hand with its curves, then get the np-01. I do think the np-01 will be a little safer, though. The np-01s might cramp your hand because of how close together your fingers are at the grip, but the np-01 should be totally fine in that regard as long as you're okay with something that feels so bulky in the back.
I have not. I'm really interested in the ZA13-c when it comes out. I have used the mm710 and I liked the shape so a higher quality version with a similar shape sounds great.
your review is waaaaaaaay better than anyone online, even RJN
rjn turned from a good reviewer to a meme with all this aim\grip\mouse ratio theories that work only for him and he states them as a fact. Also i feel like he lost inspiration.
Very detailed and indepth review of this mouse. I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you!
Hi, do you think this mouse would be good for 17,5x9cm hands for claw/pincer grip? I'm waiting for the wireless version to come out and i'm not sure if it would suit me well.
Could you tell me the size of your hand to have perspective of the size of the mouse?
Great video btw, very nice and detailed review
Fantastic review! Wow
nice review, very detailed
Great review! I might have to pull the trigger on this mouse
what is your main mouse? i keep trying mouse after mouse and nothing can beat the superlight even though i know its not end game for me :(
I main the S2-C currently. I think it should be the go-to shape for claw grip and you can never go wrong with it. It can actually feel pretty gpx-esque in hand, just with a more prominent hump and thinner grip.
@@KraftyCraftKraf i realy enjoyed the the s2-c when i tried it but i felt it was a bit heavy adn the cable altho a good one did still bother me so i resorted to my gpx again lol. so hard to find the perfect mouse lol
Makes sense. Lightweight wireless feels really good. I personally value shapes above all else, but I can totally see why it can get people hooked.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Thanks for all ur help!! I actually am going to go ahead and give the NP01 a try
Nice review. Have you tried the roccat KPA?
I have. The shape felt good in hand and it was very comfortable. The side curvature works well for claw grip and supports your hand well without forcing your fingers into too deep into the grooves. I didn't have any problem with the optical clicks either. However, it is a long mouse with a diamond-shaped hump towards the back that has a pretty wide flare. When mice reach their highest point towards the back, they feel longer in hand than they are on paper. This made the mouse too long for my 18*9cm hands and I had a hard time with precision control so I returned it. It felt great for browsing though because the curves were so comfy. If your hands are bigger than mine, I think it could work out well for you. If they made a smaller KPA, I would probably use it over the GPX.
Great review! Once I paracorded my NP01s the difference was night and day for sure. It’s definitely a top 3 mouse for me rn and I’m hyped to see a wireless mouse from them.
Did you use a flathead for the triangle screws?
@@Johnthybaptist no, I used a triangle head screwdriver set I found on Amazon. The brand is E.Durable if you wanna try it for yourself
what are your thoughts on the xm1r? would love to see a comparison between the xm1r and np01s
The xm1r has been one of my go-to mice for a good while now. I like how the shape is designed and it feels quite premium in hand. Both the xm1 and the np-01s have low fronts, similar lengths, and a prominent rear hump, but the xm1 is a lot wider and fills out your hand much more due to the diamond-shaped back working its way deeper into your palm than the rounded back of the np-01s. This makes the xm1r feel more full and stable in comparison but at the cost of restricting more of your movement. I will likely make a full review of the xm1r soon and go over a few shape comparisons that I feel are particularly relevant.
Would love to see you revisit this mouse with grips and a paracord. Best performing mouse for me so far, and the added width from the grips fixed the fatigue issue for me.
Already on it. I have a paracord, grips, and superglides for this mouse on the way and I’lol definitely be revisiting it on the channel.
@@KraftyCraftKraf can't wait to see this!
Grip witdth is perfect for me. Tried grips out but got too wide and messed up the shape feeling imo.
Any plans to cover the NP-01?
would you recommend the np-01s over the np-01 for a pincer claw/fingertip user? 19.5x10 hands, the FK2 seemed a bit small/uncomfortable for me
I would definitely recommend the np-01s over the np-01 for your gripstyle. You'll have a much greater range of motion but still have enough of a hump to support your hand when you want it too. However, it feels pretty similar in size to the fk2 so it might give you issues. The back hump is larger and more hand filling, but the rest of the mouse is a little smaller which makes them feel pretty similar in size.
I'd say no Ive mained the mouse with a pincer ft grip but the weight should be lower. Starts to make my finger ache. Still in my top 2 of perfoming mice tho
If you could do a comparison between the NP-01s and SC-C that would be great
I'll probably make a video on it. Someone else also requested the same thing and I think its an interesting comparison to make.
I really do like this mouse, but the back feels too narrow to me. If it were a bit wider on right side I'd be a happy camper.
are you gonna review your skypad?
Yeah, soon. Its a really interesting surface so I plan on that being my first pad review after my XTen Control video that's going up tomorrow.
A company has mastered side-button feel. It's called the Logitech G403 Hero. 🙌
Those side buttons actually do feel really good. I totally forgot about them because that shape is the least favorite I've ever tried and I did my best to wipe it from my memory. Great buttons though.
I also have an aggressive tilt grip but have 20 x 10 hand is np01 or 01s better
Depends what you want. I think the np-01s would still work for 20cm hands because of how long it is. If you want something that feels very thin and like you're holding a pencil, which feels great for aggressive grips, but still gives a little bit of hand support, then the np-01s is a great option. If you want something that feels very wide in the back and fills out the majority of your hand with its curves, then get the np-01. I do think the np-01 will be a little safer, though. The np-01s might cramp your hand because of how close together your fingers are at the grip, but the np-01 should be totally fine in that regard as long as you're okay with something that feels so bulky in the back.
Thank you so much for the detailed recommendation
Have you tried the ZA13?
I have not. I'm really interested in the ZA13-c when it comes out. I have used the mm710 and I liked the shape so a higher quality version with a similar shape sounds great.
You talk so fast it made me read the comments in your voice and pace. lol.
About 10:00 that's not relaxed claw that's palm grip.