In Romania capital we extended to M5 ,build in 9 years delayed 7 kilometres of brand new underground (metro) with 10 stations. In Dublin needed 10 years to build a train station. How many decades you need to build a metro?
I can’t imagine why is the Irish government delaying such immensely beneficial development that will contribute so much not only to Dublin proper but also to the wealth of Ireland.
Well the courts not yet but if someone launches a judicial review (which is likely) after planning permission is granted then the courts will certainly be delaying it. Other big infrastructure projects are currently delayed because of such legal actions.
What the video doesn’t say is that a previous incarnation of the project had planning permission approved back in 2011 and just needed digging to start. The government of the time ditched it due to the economic crash. It was a calamitous decision which set the project back 20 years.
Hate to break it to you but your numbers are pretty inaccurate . The Metropolitan area population of Dublin 2024 is 1.4 million the airport handled over 33 m passengers last year (which includes transit passengers)and their was about 7m international visitors in 2022 which was down on 2019
It's about time work for this project got well underway. We need this as Dublin is now recognised as a major European city , it would be great for Ireland when we do have a link to the airport .
Flash-bang American-style video where everything is shaking and wobbling and with flashing lights and sped-up movements everywhere. Unwatchable.....for the same reason most American TV documentaries are unwatchable. Why not make a sensible European style, cool calm and collected, information video? (And spend more time on actual REAL information than on "flash-bang.")
Greater Dublin is fast approaching 2•5 million people, from Greystones in the south east to Drogheda in the north east. Hazlehatch to the west. Maynooth in the north west. Ashbourne/Navan in the north. Saggart to Blessington via Selby in the south west. This is not the full population of Wicklow, Kildare, Meath and Louth, it's merely the spill over population from Dublin just over the aforementioned counties
The Dart Underground project with a spur to Dublin airport woukd have cost a fraction of this and integrate into national rail and tram network much better.
Nor will it even go to any of the airport terminals. Evidently the closest station to the airport will be half a mile away. It's an absolute disaster, all of it.
unfortunately, the issue with this is not just the ever changing route, but the people living above the line are not happy, as the tunnels cause vibrations and noises. it's the city's own people stopping this as well
This property REIT or whatever it's going to be which owns the other 25% would be a good investment - East Link bridge is still in private hands 40 years after being opened...
There is quite a few cities in Europe that are smaller than Dublin that I can think of. There's even a few in Ireland alone! Lol Other than this good video, thanks!
IF it ever happens and that’s a BIG IF , It’s will cost €20+ billion and open up in 2050, the Irish government is useless when it comes to major capital projects.
Got bad feeling that Irish GDP hits less than $50B USD struggles to be in Top 100 countries only 2-3 yrs away making building this new metro just about impossible unless the China front up the $12B + needed
Dublin isn't one of the smallest cities in Europe and it has 1.4 million people Dublin also does have an innercity metro, it's called the dart and is overground, just cause it's overground doesn't mean it's not a metro Proof being a lot of new York subway lines are overground
While the video is highlighting an important project for Dublin, the innacuracies are glaring and even sometimes contradictory. E.g. the "number of phases" involved in the metrolink design. In one part, a segment of metrolink is described as phase 2, while later on, the conversion of the Green Line to Metrolink is called phase 2. The annual pax total at Dublin Airport is currently around 30 million, not 22 million. And this video claims that there is no commuter rail in Dublin? There are literally hundreds of diesel-powered carriages operating on 4 corridors to the outlying regions. Also, does anyone else get AI-generated vibes from this video?
Forget it lads. Iv heard about this since late 1970s building an underground so I would not hold my breath too long. In fact way back rumour s we're abound that a Japanese company wanted to build an underground system with no cost to the state if they were given the sole running rights for a number of years. Perhaps some rail buffs might either confirm or deny this rumour. Consultants have been paid a hell of alot of money on this project for 50 years. The current metro plan is all wrong anyway. After all why end it in Ranekagh and why follow the same route as the tram system except it's underground. Better to scrap it now and redesign a proper system. The way infrastructure projects are done here it will be 15 Billion and the rest for a few kilometres of track.
Doesn't work quite the same way as regular planning permission. It goes to public hearing in 2 weeks, Joe public can submit an "observation" which is simply that, their own 2 cents on the project. It's not the same as an appeal but they are considered (or ignored) by the planning board when making their decision. The board can approve, reject or approve with conditions. Approval is granted by issuing what's called a railway order. To be honest a project of this scale and importance and the fact €100m has been spent planning it already I can't see them messing around and fully expect it to get the green light by the end of the year. You can also assume a general election is on the way and the politicians want a nice big Infrastructure project started to pretend like they've done something useful.
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In Romania capital we extended to M5 ,build in 9 years delayed 7 kilometres of brand new underground (metro) with 10 stations. In Dublin needed 10 years to build a train station. How many decades you need to build a metro?
I can’t imagine why is the Irish government delaying such immensely beneficial development that will contribute so much not only to Dublin proper but also to the wealth of Ireland.
Main reason they are Irish aka slow. I doesn’t take 35 years to build rail.
Because they’re imbeciles
They aren't delaying it, the planning system and civil service and the courts are delaying it.
@@spacetweek the courts?
Well the courts not yet but if someone launches a judicial review (which is likely) after planning permission is granted then the courts will certainly be delaying it. Other big infrastructure projects are currently delayed because of such legal actions.
01:39 No it doesn't include 4 routes. It's only one route, those are just four sections of the same route
Those are expandable sections on the website.
Also, love the photo of "The Government of Ireland" at 5min37!
What the video doesn’t say is that a previous incarnation of the project had planning permission approved back in 2011 and just needed digging to start. The government of the time ditched it due to the economic crash. It was a calamitous decision which set the project back 20 years.
Hate to break it to you but your numbers are pretty inaccurate . The Metropolitan area population of Dublin 2024 is 1.4 million the airport handled over 33 m passengers last year (which includes transit passengers)and their was about 7m international visitors in 2022 which was down on 2019
I think the metro area is 2.2 million and greater area is 3ish. It’s a very fast growing city.
Dublin is one of the smallest cities in Europe and it has 1.4 million people. What a truly bizzare statement! Dublin is fairly big by any measure.
Its a shitty AI generated video what do you expect...
It's about time work for this project got well underway. We need this as Dublin is now recognised as a major European city , it would be great for Ireland when we do have a link to the airport .
A lot of inaccuracies in this video.
Flash-bang American-style video where everything is shaking and wobbling and with flashing lights and sped-up movements everywhere.
Unwatchable.....for the same reason most American TV documentaries are unwatchable.
Why not make a sensible European style, cool calm and collected, information video? (And spend more time on actual REAL information than on "flash-bang.")
Finally someone has said it! They are so surface level and way too fast paced.
Greater Dublin is fast approaching 2•5 million people, from Greystones in the south east to Drogheda in the north east. Hazlehatch to the west. Maynooth in the north west. Ashbourne/Navan in the north. Saggart to Blessington via Selby in the south west. This is not the full population of Wicklow, Kildare, Meath and Louth, it's merely the spill over population from Dublin just over the aforementioned counties
Many of whom work in Dublin City and County
Tens of thousands of commuters from Cavan, Longford, Laois, Wexford, etc
10Bn? It'll be 30 or more by the time it's built.
It's all fucked now d nods and winks club are involved
Why they just dont extend the dart lines?
Live in Dublin but can never see it veing built. Can't manage building a children's hospital
So I can tell your whole ambition in life is to get a free State house and live on the dole and complain about how things are crap in Ireland.....
The Dart Underground project with a spur to Dublin airport woukd have cost a fraction of this and integrate into national rail and tram network much better.
Am i correct in saying Metrolink doesn't connect to either of the two mainline train stations nor the central bus station!
Nor will it even go to any of the airport terminals. Evidently the closest station to the airport will be half a mile away. It's an absolute disaster, all of it.
@@celticlofts The metrolink airport stop is literally on the front door of T2, check their website. Stop spreading misinformation.
It would connect at Tara Street so railway passengers would be able to connect for metrolink that way
unfortunately, the issue with this is not just the ever changing route, but the people living above the line are not happy, as the tunnels cause vibrations and noises. it's the city's own people stopping this as well
This property REIT or whatever it's going to be which owns the other 25% would be a good investment - East Link bridge is still in private hands 40 years after being opened...
There is quite a few cities in Europe that are smaller than Dublin that I can think of. There's even a few in Ireland alone! Lol Other than this good video, thanks!
I think Dublin is the biggest city in Ireland.
Vienna,Prague,Oslo,Bratislava are all similar to Dublin.
IF it ever happens and that’s a BIG IF , It’s will cost €20+ billion and open up in 2050, the Irish government is useless when it comes to major capital projects.
Got bad feeling that Irish GDP hits less than $50B USD struggles to be in Top 100 countries only 2-3 yrs away making building this new metro just about impossible unless the China front up the $12B + needed
Dublin isn't one of the smallest cities in Europe and it has 1.4 million people
Dublin also does have an innercity metro, it's called the dart and is overground, just cause it's overground doesn't mean it's not a metro
Proof being a lot of new York subway lines are overground
So why not just extend that metro underground?
While the video is highlighting an important project for Dublin, the innacuracies are glaring and even sometimes contradictory. E.g. the "number of phases" involved in the metrolink design. In one part, a segment of metrolink is described as phase 2, while later on, the conversion of the Green Line to Metrolink is called phase 2.
The annual pax total at Dublin Airport is currently around 30 million, not 22 million.
And this video claims that there is no commuter rail in Dublin? There are literally hundreds of diesel-powered carriages operating on 4 corridors to the outlying regions.
Also, does anyone else get AI-generated vibes from this video?
The information is probably drawn from the planners themselves so that's how bad this whole project has been planned.
Forget it lads. Iv heard about this since late 1970s building an underground so I would not hold my breath too long. In fact way back rumour s we're abound that a Japanese company wanted to build an underground system with no cost to the state if they were given the sole running rights for a number of years. Perhaps some rail buffs might either confirm or deny this rumour. Consultants have been paid a hell of alot of money on this project for 50 years. The current metro plan is all wrong anyway. After all why end it in Ranekagh and why follow the same route as the tram system except it's underground. Better to scrap it now and redesign a proper system. The way infrastructure projects are done here it will be 15 Billion and the rest for a few kilometres of track.
why cant they just extend the luas as far as the airport
We want a proper solution. Trams to airports are what a banana republic would do.
The airport needs more than a tram. It needs a proper railway.
@@spacetweek : And having nothing at all - What does that make us?
Has it definitely, definitely, definitely been 100% approved? No NIMBY appealing and An Bord Pleanala waiting for a few more years?
Doesn't work quite the same way as regular planning permission. It goes to public hearing in 2 weeks, Joe public can submit an "observation" which is simply that, their own 2 cents on the project. It's not the same as an appeal but they are considered (or ignored) by the planning board when making their decision.
The board can approve, reject or approve with conditions. Approval is granted by issuing what's called a railway order.
To be honest a project of this scale and importance and the fact €100m has been spent planning it already I can't see them messing around and fully expect it to get the green light by the end of the year.
You can also assume a general election is on the way and the politicians want a nice big Infrastructure project started to pretend like they've done something useful.
It will look really nice with the 7.8 billion euro children’s hospital that we’re never going to get 🙄
It would take 2 years, to build DART connection to the airport. Naaah....let's wait 10 years for Metrolink.
I asked the same question 4 years ago. Never got an answer.
It’s definitely not one of the smallest cities in Europe
That clicking sound is completely annoying and unnecessary. Whoever is doing your editing from fiver get a new one
Never happen 😅😅
Never happen 😅pie in the sky
Shut up. Thank you.
@OpeningSalvo the truth hurts if we had 100billion to spend still wouldn't be done
Never happen 😅😅