I think we if we as Indigenous people do not want our songs and dances posted, we should not be doing them in a public setting like this to begin with, nor should we allow it to be recorded. That goes for all tribes, all dances, and songs.
I get what you're saying but you're lucky to be able to do your dances in the first place and have them be seen the US government could have just said they were banned from preforming and left them at that
As an indigenous Maya person I wish I could find more dances of my people on the internet however we didn't keep a good hold of our traditions due to two massive genocides and that's why you see most of our dances look choreographed because we had to create new dances because most of our elders never really taught us how to do our dances or practices
@@Chipito2005 My point has nothing to do with the US government's ban from the past years. It has to do with keeping the sacred, sacred. There are things within our tribal communities that are not to be seen by outsiders, they are not for public consumption. Others, are more social and posting them is fine. That was the question/comment.
Yeah it said Jicarilla Apache, they mislabeled them. They are the Gooday group from Ft. Sill, they're paint and traditional skirts and headdress look brand spanking new.
I am sorry if I have misidentified the dancers. This was a public performance at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture and I have nothing but respect for the dancers.
@Andy Fertal, we would like you to correct your mistake of identifying our family & tribe. We are the Gooday Family, Chiricahua/Warm Springs Apache. Originally from SE Arizona. Relocated in SW Oklahoma after imprisonment in SE United States. Renamed Ft. Sill Apache, not Jicarilla Apache, who does not do the Crown Dance and is from N.Central NM. You did not have permission for this post.
its still a message with the bandanas....the witchary of a spirit attached to your chin...it is the oklohomo indians n hopi apache beginning...a message with in a message the bandanas give the indication of the tribe doing the witchcraft Southern Ute Indian tribe 81122,,,,mike roubiduex group...red bandanas...under the chin...under neck wichcraft body paint means....mountains....us in the rockies southern utes...oklohoma engines
This is the Gooday Mountain Spirit Dancers they are Ft Sill Apache!!!! You do NOT have permission to post this. Please remove and contact Adrian or Keith Gooday at the Ft Sill Apache Tribe in Oklahoma for permission.
Do not put on public displays if you are worried about this "exploitation", I'm a Warm Springs Chiricahua Apache and a descendant of Talbot Gooday. Not to mention Victorio, Carl Mangas, Seth Mooda, Loco, and Chiricahua Apache scouts Martine and Guydelkon.
just know a federal law to protect Native dances from exploitation and over exposure is in the works. there will come a time when posting this kind of sacred activity will be a federal and criminal offense. then you'll get the picture. and know we're not messing around in protecting our dances. but I'm sure you as a white eye can afford the $300,000 fine !!!!
Your over exposing something that should not be exposed. Other people have said to take down the video. But your not. Thats why we need a federal law because of people exactly like you who think they can record what ever you want then post it. Like I said when you're contacted by the F. B.I then I'm sure you'll get the picture.
This is not a commercial site. I am retired and I make no money from this site. It is strictly a hobby. My purpose is to respectfully portray different aspects of our multi-cultural world here in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and specifically to encourage support for Native causes, which, in essence, are Human causes that we all must stand together for. I found this dance to be beautiful, inspiring and spiritual and I am very grateful that I was able to witness it. I believe that it will inspire others.
Your not inspiring no one your offending people. since you're not going to remove just know in time that posting ceremonial scenes like this will be a federal offense!!!! I can't wait for that day to come!!!
You cannot post these kind of images !!! I am working currently with Tribal Nations, communities and pueblos to end the exploitation of our Native dances and songs. I urge you to remove this video immediately!. there will come a time when individuals like you will be committing a Federal crime by posting this kind of activity. SO you are forewarned !!!!
This was a public performance at which photography was permitted. In truth, it was a demonstration of an actual ceremonial dance. It was performed at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I mean no disrespect by this posting. My intent is only to show examples of the beauty of native culture, and many other cultures, to foster better understanding among all people.
It wasn't a demonstration !!! That's the problem with you Non-Natives !! Thinking what you think it is. Just know the grass roots moment Sacred Preservation which I am heading is pushing for a Federal law to protect our Native dances from exploitation and over exposure. Especially from that ridiculous organization the boy Scouts if America and the order of the arrow.
I get what you mean but you're lucky to even be able to continue your cultural dances and have them seen by others including indigenous people who weren't born with their culture practices
@@shawnprice3894 As an indigenous Maya person who never grew up with their culture and traditions i wish I could look up traditional Maya dances however I can't find any that were "authentic" because most of our people a who knew ceremonies and dances were killed in genocides or don't post videos of the traditions So it's hard to try to learn more about my people's dances and traditions when there's not many places where you can find it online
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You guys should come down to San Carlos for the festives
Great Video of our Eastern Relatives! for those threatening this is a form of freedom of speech!!! Great Documentation for the future Apache People!
the ANCESTORS cannot be fooled
What does that mean ?
Whan i was maybe 1 or 2 I forgot i can't remember a fire dancer came up to me,and my mom say that I jump that a memory will BE WITH ME forever 🥲🥲
I think we if we as Indigenous people do not want our songs and dances posted, we should not be doing them in a public setting like this to begin with, nor should we allow it to be recorded. That goes for all tribes, all dances, and songs.
I get what you're saying but you're lucky to be able to do your dances in the first place and have them be seen the US government could have just said they were banned from preforming and left them at that
As an indigenous Maya person I wish I could find more dances of my people on the internet however we didn't keep a good hold of our traditions due to two massive genocides and that's why you see most of our dances look choreographed because we had to create new dances because most of our elders never really taught us how to do our dances or practices
@@Chipito2005 My point has nothing to do with the US government's ban from the past years. It has to do with keeping the sacred, sacred. There are things within our tribal communities that are not to be seen by outsiders, they are not for public consumption. Others, are more social and posting them is fine. That was the question/comment.
If these are healing songs . souls on mother earth need them now. So does our mother earth
This is the Gooday group from Oklahoma ft sill Apache style
That’s my fam
Yeah it said Jicarilla Apache, they mislabeled them. They are the Gooday group from Ft. Sill, they're paint and traditional skirts and headdress look brand spanking new.
NDE here proud of it let's continue for our children fuck the hate and stupid clueless trolls 💯🥁👩🏾🦅
Me gustaría saber más de sus danzas...
This is fort sill Apache
I am sorry if I have misidentified the dancers. This was a public performance at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture and I have nothing but respect for the dancers.
@Andy Fertal, we would like you to correct your mistake of identifying our family & tribe. We are the Gooday Family, Chiricahua/Warm Springs Apache. Originally from SE Arizona. Relocated in SW Oklahoma after imprisonment in SE United States. Renamed Ft. Sill Apache, not Jicarilla Apache, who does not do the Crown Dance and is from N.Central NM. You did not have permission for this post.
Cool
its still a message with the bandanas....the witchary of a spirit attached to your chin...it is the oklohomo indians n hopi apache beginning...a message with in a message the bandanas give the indication of the tribe doing the witchcraft Southern Ute Indian tribe 81122,,,,mike roubiduex group...red bandanas...under the chin...under neck wichcraft body paint means....mountains....us in the rockies southern utes...oklohoma engines
These dancers are not Jicarilla Apaches!!!
Yes, I know I lived in Dulce.
No this is fort sill apaches
😎
First of all they are not called mountain spirit dancers they are known as the apache crown dancer
They are Gan and the Gan are mountain spirits...
@@hostilesavage4299*Gáán
and the white peoples call them mountain spirits because they don’t have that knowledge or experience that we have..
I'm mescerlo Apache
Same and it’s called Apache
myra there is not just one apache tribe there are many. closely related yes but still different (clans,bands,) classic word different but same.
This is the Gooday Mountain Spirit Dancers they are Ft Sill Apache!!!! You do NOT have permission to post this. Please remove and contact Adrian or Keith Gooday at the Ft Sill Apache Tribe in Oklahoma for permission.
Do not put on public displays if you are worried about this "exploitation", I'm a Warm Springs Chiricahua Apache and a descendant of Talbot Gooday. Not to mention Victorio, Carl Mangas, Seth Mooda, Loco, and Chiricahua Apache scouts Martine and Guydelkon.
Look like Mescalaro dancers.
Was about to say the same thing
@drumm
Any yo ha , Any yo ha, Any yo, Any yo ha...where's the verse!
This isn't a pop song
Who are you? A nobody I'm guessing...never been around a group of apaches
just know a federal law to protect Native dances from exploitation and over exposure is in the works. there will come a time when posting this kind of sacred activity will be a federal and criminal offense. then you'll get the picture. and know we're not messing around in protecting our dances. but I'm sure you as a white eye can afford the $300,000 fine !!!!
I would support a law protecting exploitation of Native Americans in any way. Please help me to understand why you feel this represents exploitation.
Your over exposing something that should not be exposed. Other people have said to take down the video. But your not. Thats why we need a federal law because of people exactly like you who think they can record what ever you want then post it. Like I said when you're contacted by the F. B.I then I'm sure you'll get the picture.
This is not a commercial site. I am retired and I make no money from this site. It is strictly a hobby. My purpose is to respectfully portray different aspects of our multi-cultural world here in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and specifically to encourage support for Native causes, which, in essence, are Human causes that we all must stand together for.
I found this dance to be beautiful, inspiring and spiritual and I am very grateful that I was able to witness it. I believe that it will inspire others.
Your not inspiring no one your offending people. since you're not going to remove just know in time that posting ceremonial scenes like this will be a federal offense!!!! I can't wait for that day to come!!!
Cody Geewinw
You cannot post these kind of images !!! I am working currently with Tribal Nations, communities and pueblos to end the exploitation of our Native dances and songs. I urge you to remove this video immediately!. there will come a time when individuals like you will be committing a Federal crime by posting this kind of activity. SO you are forewarned !!!!
This was a public performance at which photography was permitted. In truth, it was a demonstration of an actual ceremonial dance. It was performed at the Museum of Indian Arts and Culture in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I mean no disrespect by this posting. My intent is only to show examples of the beauty of native culture, and many other cultures, to foster better understanding among all people.
It wasn't a demonstration !!! That's the problem with you Non-Natives !! Thinking what you think it is. Just know the grass roots moment Sacred Preservation which I am heading is pushing for a Federal law to protect our Native dances from exploitation and over exposure. Especially from that ridiculous organization the boy Scouts if America and the order of the arrow.
I get what you mean but you're lucky to even be able to continue your cultural dances and have them seen by others including indigenous people who weren't born with their culture practices
@@shawnprice3894 As an indigenous Maya person who never grew up with their culture and traditions i wish I could look up traditional Maya dances however I can't find any that were "authentic" because most of our people a who knew ceremonies and dances were killed in genocides or don't post videos of the traditions
So it's hard to try to learn more about my people's dances and traditions when there's not many places where you can find it online
We had to create new dances with what history of our people we have left
these white folks, mocking