Featherlight 700 vs Speedster Stoves: Which Camping Stove Wins? 🏕️

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @WalkWithWallace
    @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад +1

    ⚡️ Useful links:
    🔥 Speedsters: speedsterstoves.co.uk
    🔥 Wildside: wildsideadventures.eu
    ⛽️ Fuel I use: ekofuel.org/

  • @wsa.international
    @wsa.international 14 дней назад +6

    Thank you so much for creating this video! We really appreciate everyone who takes the time to share their experience and help the community better understand the FeatherLight 700 Alcohol Cooking System and its advantages.
    One thing we noticed is that during assembly, the connector tabs weren’t fully slid along to the end of the T-slot. This step is essential to ensure proper stability and performance of the cone.
    Just also a small clarification regarding efficiency and effectiveness:
    Efficiency: This is all about clean combustion (enough oxygen to fully burn the fuel) and how heat is transferred to the pot. A clean pot after cooking is a great indicator of efficient burning. Efficiency focuses on saving fuel rather than just faster heating.
    Effectiveness: This is about achieving quick boil times or heating results, which you measured well in your test.
    Both are important, and your video does a great job showcasing the system!
    Cheers,
    Wildside Adventures Team

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  14 дней назад

      Thank you taking the time to offer constructive feedback. 🔥 👍🏻

  • @Danilyn_Livao
    @Danilyn_Livao 16 дней назад +2

    Great insights Wallace! 🔥 You really highlight the key differences in these stoves for anyone gearing up for ultralight backpacking. Big thanks for sharing your expertise!

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  16 дней назад

      @@Danilyn_Livao thank you ☺️ 🔥

    • @Danilyn_Livao
      @Danilyn_Livao 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@WalkWithWallace You're welcome! Keep sharing your incredible contents! 🙂

  • @steviet3725
    @steviet3725 День назад +1

    Really good comparison
    Everyone will have their preferred option
    But I think no matter what people prefer I think it’s great that people are making the effort to design and produce equipment that none of the big brands would bother making

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  День назад

      Thanks Stevie and totally agree. Like a bit of cottage gear.

  • @MrDancingBishop
    @MrDancingBishop 19 дней назад +3

    I just drop the top on the base of the Featherlight and it always just slots together. Think trying to do all the tabs individually is the issue

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      I think you’re probably right, also someone else mentioned they click it together first then do the tabs to create the cone last. Makes sense.

  • @WyeExplorer
    @WyeExplorer 9 дней назад +1

    The speedster is ironically slower Robin but comes up the rankings fast for sturdiness. I had that down almost from the start. Good comparison. All the best up there. Mark

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  9 дней назад +1

      Thanks Mark and agreed. The Speedster is easier to work with. Hope all is good down in Hereford mate.

    • @WyeExplorer
      @WyeExplorer 8 дней назад +1

      @@WalkWithWallace A pleasure Robin - I may get the speedster when I'm back out. Me? Yeah getting fitter.

  • @ootnboots
    @ootnboots 17 дней назад +1

    Nice one Robin , a good comparison between the two stoves . Like you , i've used the speedster set up for a years now . The Featherlite cone does look a bit faffy putting it together ..I actually just bought the border raider kit a few weeks back ...good video mate ..cheers Stevie

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  17 дней назад +1

      Cheers Stevie, the BR kit will see you right mate. Kev’s got one too.🔥

  • @AndyMacaskill
    @AndyMacaskill 17 дней назад +1

    Brilliant Robin.
    I made a titanium shield/stand for my titan pot some years back. The offering from Xboil is almost identical, at least conceptually. Now you have given weights and times on these, I'll need to see how my set up compares. Regards price, I cant remember what the materials cost me, but it was back when the Titan pot was eye wateringly expensive. Apart from that all minimal differences, but all good fun.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  16 дней назад +1

      Cheers Andy, think I’d be tempted by the X-Boil if I was in the market for a new stove setup. If you do a test, let me know the results. 🔥
      I should attempt a DIY effort as there’s plenty tutorials on here.

  • @PAADVENTURES1
    @PAADVENTURES1 19 дней назад +4

    Speedster for me Robin! Simplicity is key with these items and at half the price i can wait an extra minute 😊 Paul

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад +1

      Cheers Paul and I concur. I’mm usually doing tent admin as it boils. Hope you’re good mate since the dust has settled on your Munro completion.

    • @PAADVENTURES1
      @PAADVENTURES1 19 дней назад +1

      @WalkWithWallace all good mate! Been out a lot and enjoying leaving the camera. Good to take a wee break from filming 👍👍👍👍

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад

      @ nice one mate, yeah I enjoy occasionally not filming a trip too.

  • @fellrunningguide
    @fellrunningguide 18 дней назад +1

    Interesting stuff Robin.
    I've got both the Speedster and my own DIY split cone.
    I like that I can fit the cone inside my pot for transport and it's a bit lighter.
    However the Speedster is quicker and less fiddly to set up, especially with cold fingers. So, there's a place for both in the kit cupboard!
    PS I like the look of the new Speedster, I've got the old silver one with the "pin" rather than the press studs. You've got to be careful not to lose the pin, I wonder if the new version is as secure.
    One thing to think about regarding efficiency - did the cone boil water faster because it concentrated the heat onto the pan rather than losing heat to the environment, or did it burn hotter using more fuel? You could test that by weighing the burners, fill them with precisely the same amount of fuel then extinguish them as soon as the first pot boils and weigh them again. That would show which had used used most fuel.
    That's if you could be bothered! 😂
    ATB, Dave

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +1

      Cheers Dave,
      There’s definitely pros and cons to both. Down to what the expectation is I guess.
      I’ve got the pin version too, never lost the pin, that would be awkward. Do you feed it in from the top or bottom? Kev asked me as he’s seen some people secure the pin from below, whereas we do it from the top.
      Ironically someone else mentioned efficiency vs boil time being different. I’m assuming that the two burners being very similar in size and capacity would burn the very similar. My friend has sold the stove so I can’t revisit it 😆

    • @fellrunningguide
      @fellrunningguide 18 дней назад +1

      @@WalkWithWallace Never thought to put the pin in from the bottom, I always do it from the top. Can't see why you'd put it in from below, you're probably more likely to drop it if it's in from the bottom.
      I doubt there's much in it regarding efficiency. I reckon I need 15ml fuel to boil 500ml of water on both versions.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +1

      No, I’ll stick to pinning from the top. 😂
      Yeah I’d use about 15ml but probably 20ml in winter.

  • @RollrightKnights
    @RollrightKnights 19 дней назад +2

    I supported the kickstarter campaign for the Wildside Adventures cone and stove. I've yet to use it in the wild but it's pretty easy to slot together in my experience, I slot them both together at the same time then do the tabs at the end. Works fine for me 👍

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +2

      Good shout mate, I did wonder if there was a knack and or I was all fingers and thumbs.

    • @RollrightKnights
      @RollrightKnights 18 дней назад

      ​@@WalkWithWallaceit's still a bit tricky sometimes, there is also the ever present threat of cutting your fingers! 😂😱

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +1

      Haha, aye extra care required particularly when you’re proper Hank Marvin in a rush 😄

    • @davidgidman7561
      @davidgidman7561 18 дней назад

      Bit disappointed in mine. Pain in the arse to put together and although I paid for the full kit I didn’t get the burner. Had the speedster stove anyway.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      @@davidgidman7561glad I’m not the only one who finds it fiddly. If you contact them I’m sure they’ll post out a burner for you.

  • @markalanshaw4950
    @markalanshaw4950 18 дней назад +1

    Hi Robin, Enjoyed video! I have a question to ask, would a alcohol stove work inside a baked beans can? Or does the alcohol stove need oxygen to work, I have a few foldable wind shields but a tin can would be a perfect wind break! If it would work can you do a time trial! Cheers Robin, kind regards Mark!

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      Hey Mark, I’m not sure that would work tbh. It would be quite narrow, tall and not very stable. Whereas the stoves in this video are really stable and secure once water is added. A windbreak from Speedsters is pretty cheap. 🤔

    • @markalanshaw4950
      @markalanshaw4950 18 дней назад

      @@WalkWithWallace Hi Robin will you try it for me! A tin can would be a great wind barrier with a pot sitting on top! Cheers Mark!

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      I think I’ll pass. You’d have to figure out a way for the flame to breathe as well once your pot is placed on top. Sounds like a fire hazard 😆

  • @totomesch1940
    @totomesch1940 19 дней назад +3

    Fair comparison. I'd say that with a lot more use you'd become pretty adept at putting the cone together. I've seen a couple of other outdoor YT's who use cone systems and they put them together in seconds. The Featherlight system isn't cheap but it is more of a bespoke product, engineered really well and weighs next to nowt in your backpack. ATB

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад +1

      Totally agree with you, you’d definitely get the knack after a few uses and the time spent developing is second to none but my only concern is the Featherlight system won’t take a beating over a prolonged time.

  • @Belbury101
    @Belbury101 18 дней назад +5

    A good comparison video , But there was a glaring mistake. Efficiency is nothing to do with how fast it takes to boil, but rather how much fuel the system uses to boil a certain amount of water.
    What you were calling efficiency was actually just the boil time. Which is a different metric.
    The only way of testing the efficiency would be to weigh the stoves including the fuel you put in them before you put them and also after you sniffed them, to see how much fuel they used to do the boil.
    I'd still prefer a cone system, but the Speedster might actually be the more efficient setup. But you haven't measured that. I suspect they are similar efficiency, as I've used Cones for 15 years, and also bought a Speedster to compare, some years back.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +3

      I understand and agree with what you're saying and if I added to the test; weighing each burner before and after the test this would have made the results more conclusive.
      However, whilst the test wasn't totally scientific, the boil time surely goes hand in hand with efficiency as we were not comparing apples and pears here but two very similar 30ml spill proof burners with the same amount and type of fuel.

    • @AyrshireFlyGuy
      @AyrshireFlyGuy 17 дней назад +2

      Are you always this boring, or did you make a special effort on this one?. Anyone who is interested in using stoves knows what Robin meant.

    • @Belbury101
      @Belbury101 13 дней назад

      They are probably not far apart in efficiency. But It is absolutely incorrect to say that the faster one is the more efficient. If two cars drove somewhere and one got there faster, would you say that it used less fuel than the one that got there afterwards? It might have, but with two similar cars, It's very unlikely. We all know if we drive faster our cars mpg drops - I.e it's less efficient. It's as simple as that.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  13 дней назад

      @@Belbury101 thanks for replying 👍🏻

    • @AyrshireFlyGuy
      @AyrshireFlyGuy 13 дней назад +1

      @Belbury101 Gimme an hour, I'm off for another sleep after reading your latest post.

  • @bencoombes2711
    @bencoombes2711 18 дней назад +1

    What's down jacket are you wearing the the first shot please?

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +1

      Hi Ben, it’s the Rock Front Nord jacket. I did a short vid a few weeks ago. Due them a review at some point.
      ruclips.net/user/shorts5f2mAtNdbYo?feature=share

  • @Dazck9s
    @Dazck9s 19 дней назад +1

    Speedster stove for me, I've got his original one. I've used it for 8 years now and the guy who makes them is quite local to me and has sometimes delivered the odd bit of kit to me..
    What I saw in this vid is the minute it took to set up to boiling point the 700 equals the time of the speedster stove
    Set up to boiling point
    ATB Daz

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +1

      He’s a good lad, always helpful.
      I could probably get my time down to put the 700 together, but a minute or so isn’t important to me as I do things in the tent as it boils.

  • @milesfromanywhere.
    @milesfromanywhere. 17 дней назад +1

    Speedster for me, why change when I’m more than happy, cheap as chips too , cracking stove 👌

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  17 дней назад

      💯 mate, a 1 litre bottle of bioethanol last me ages 🔥

  • @Thoughts_from_a_Small_Island
    @Thoughts_from_a_Small_Island 19 дней назад +1

    The Featherlite is very similar to the Stormin Norman Cones, unfortunately no longer available. Another alternative would be the Vesuv cone as it’s a one piece design and easier to assemble.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      Yeah, Norman sadly passed away a few years ago. I liked the look of the rivets for the upper part to rest on. Not sure how easy it is to rivet titanium. 🤷🏻 I’ll check out Vesuv, as there’s X-Boil too.

  • @neemancallender9092
    @neemancallender9092 19 дней назад +1

    Speedster
    I had a screen made for my Trangia 27 pots and kettle
    Excellent setup
    Also minimal heat loss at the sides

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      Gary is good that way. He’s made a bespoke windscreen for one of wider MSR pots that I occasionally use.

  • @Fellmandave1
    @Fellmandave1 19 дней назад +1

    Nice one Robin.......Gas!

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      @@Fellmandave1 cheers Dave, but alcohol for the win 😜

  • @theecanmole
    @theecanmole 19 дней назад +1

    Have you watched Tetkoba's channel on DIY pepsi/coke/soda can stoves? Some of his stove designs are beautiful! Check out his "easy capillary hoop stove" of ECHS. It can boil 350 ml in 4 minutes! It's a bit fiddly to follow his instructions but it's worth perservering. After a couple of attempts I made a stove that boiled water in about 4 minutes 20 seconds. 😄

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      Gave him a sub, hadn’t heard of him before but I once had to make a makeshift stove out of a can when I forgot my burner. Lucky someone left a can in the bothy.

  • @benvickery
    @benvickery 18 дней назад +1

    I’ve got a speedster stove and I take it on all my wildcamps. I’ll be sticking with it as £99 for the featherlight is a bit steep. I do like its design though.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      If you’ve already got a Speedsters or similar, I don’t see the point in changing unless you’re moving to gas. 🤷🏻

    • @benvickery
      @benvickery 18 дней назад

      We all like shiny new kit though 😂and I do like the way it folds away into the pot.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад

      That’s true. I do like a new pot. 🫡

  • @philb3059
    @philb3059 18 дней назад +1

    Think I'll stick with my MSR DragonFly.

  • @BrokenBackMountains
    @BrokenBackMountains 19 дней назад +1

    Speedster for me. I use it with a foil windscreen and it does me well.

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +1

      Ideal mate, that’ll keep the weight down even more.

    • @BrokenBackMountains
      @BrokenBackMountains 18 дней назад

      ​@@WalkWithWallaceAye, I use the speedster wire tripod. Don't have to rely on a specific windshield.

  • @bencoombes2711
    @bencoombes2711 18 дней назад +1

    Cheek out greencraft make your Owen super light upstand and wind shield

  • @Kev_Russ
    @Kev_Russ 18 дней назад +2

    Nice comparison vid bud. Moan the Speedster. 🔥

  • @southcoastoutdoorsuk6301
    @southcoastoutdoorsuk6301 19 дней назад +2

    Nice comparison, the pot diameter massively comes into play as the featherlite is 20% wider helping with quicker boil time , would be good to put a X boil into the mix
    Hit me up if you want me to organise that as I sell them
    Atb
    Col
    Outdoor Gear Essentials

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад

      Cheers mate, do the X-Boils come in different sizes depending on pot or do you buy a full kit?

    • @southcoastoutdoorsuk6301
      @southcoastoutdoorsuk6301 19 дней назад

      @ they come in different sizes depending on which pot , but you can also use a wider pan on top of any of them as well

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад

      I’ll have a look mate.

  • @themunrobagger
    @themunrobagger 19 дней назад +2

    Speedster all day long mate, that cone looks a pain in the hole!!!!!😊😊😊

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  19 дней назад +1

      I’m sure you’d get used to the cone after a few shots, but I’m sticking with Speedsters.

  • @geoffcresswell4815
    @geoffcresswell4815 19 дней назад +2

    was a hiking channel now selling crap . lol . unsubscribe

    • @RollrightKnights
      @RollrightKnights 19 дней назад +3

      Give over, he's not selling anything, it's a review 🙄

    • @WalkWithWallace
      @WalkWithWallace  18 дней назад +7

      lol, bit sensitive Geoff. Nobody is forcing you to watch the reviews. Cheerio 👋🏼