PLYMOUTH ARGYLE APPOINT WAYNE ROONEY AS HEAD COACH
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Welcome along to a manager special from The Honest Football Podcast. Today, we react to the surprise news that Plymouth Argyle have appointed Wayne Rooney as their new Head Coach. He replaces Ian Foster, who was sacked last in the Championship season!
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If Rooney takes the role serious, learning from his mistakes, and puts 110% in (as it has been reported in the past that his punctuality has been lax in his previous role, sometimes not even turning up for training at times), and also works hard to help bring bigger investment into the club then we may stand a chance with him at the helm. Our budget is well known to be small compared to other clubs in the championship. Simon Hallet has done us proud, as his investment in crucial signings has allowed Argyle to grow, with Home Park developing nicely. It will be interesting to see, when the next window opens, who we can attract to the club to fill the gaps that are lacking in our squad at present. Who knows, it is a throw of the dice. Has Neil and the rest of the board got this appointment right? Is this what Argyle really needs at the moment?, we shall see. C'mon Rooney, prove us wrong, then Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer will have you on the show lol. Your reply to them on the side lines of the FA Cup Final when Gary Lineker jested with you about it was...Quote: 'See you next year'. Hope you are right. COYG's
I really hope Plymouth do well, as I see a few parallels to my club. Rooney is a gamble, that is no doubt. He's got a pre-season and transfer window here though, which will leave him with no excuse. For your sake, I really hope he brings Phelan with him too. I think that makes the difference! 👍
As an Argyle fan that was an excellent assessment. 99% of us are very anti the Rooney deal but we'll support it and we'll back him and the Club. There's also rumours of big investors coming on board so who knows, we could have a very interesting season ahead!
Tbh, it might be support til he fails, like Foster.
It's going to be interesting with a transfer window and pre-season. It's his last chance but it could be the perfect fit yet. He just needs a good start! 👍
@@HonestFootballPodcast Over the past 12 days an awful lot has changed and Rooney is now cautiously welcomed at Home Park by the fans. Watch this space!
I`ve changed my mind....my first reaction was `oh no`...what a desperate appointment! But after looking at the `other` aspects of investment and recruitment possibilities I`m starting to think this could be a shrewd move by the club. Wayne Rooney is passionate about football, and he`s obviously determined to be a fully fledged coach, fair play to his spirit. There is a possibilty that this could be a disaster, but it could also gel like a dream...he`s made his mistakes in his managerial career, probably some man management faults...but, I think he`s so desperate to succeed that he will be mature and accepting enough to be advised better by his back room staff and improve in all areas. Argyle have ambition, and I expect them to now work with WR to recruit a strong enough side to stay in the Champ for next season. Lets give him a go.
It could go either way as you say, but he's got a real crack at it here. Transfer window, pre season, freedom to add staff. If he fails, I doubt he'd get another chance at this level again. 👍
I live in plymouth and all the poseur man utd fans will love this
😂
Could have been worse, it could have been lampard. 😅😅😅
I'm not sure about that. They've both had a 'decent' time at Derby and struggled elsewhere. 😂
A perfect example of not what you know but who you know. Jobs for the boys. I’m not a Plymouth fan but will punt £100 on you being relegated with Rooney at the helm.
I can understand the reasoning, but Plymouth have had success via this route before. Time will tell! 👍
Foster out, Rooney in, you can't make it up. Death wish appointments.
If the choice was between Foster and Rooney, Rooney would walk it!
@@humptydumpty9177 You mean he is worse than Foster? Oh no, please, he can't be worse than Foster.
@@GaryM67-71 errr, not quite.
A small step up from foster but not much both have horrific records
@@GaryM67-71 Better...just!
Forget the football side as the players were not good enough at birmingham. Look deeper for a person who has no respect for any club or person. Not being at training and unable to communicate to the players and rumours on his lifestyle. Three years is a big gamble that will cost you
The off pitch rumours are definitely a worry, which is why I also think it's so important he gets Mike Phelan in as no.2. It's a make or break job for him now, so if he wastes this chance he'll deserve no sympathy.
Really got no problem with Dewsnip recruiting from his network, but he needs to be accountable for how things unfold. I remember Sturrock bringing in a bus-load of players he knew from Scotland, in his first spell, and he rightly earned the plaudits.
Lowe and Schumacher weren't bad choices, but ultimately they're young managers who were given opportunities to progress their careers.
On balance, our scouse managers have brought more good times than bad, so far.
It'll be interesting but as you say, eventually that pool of managers in his network will get worse and worse. In fairness, it looks like Rosenior was offered it first, so that would have been a departure somewhat! 👍
Poor Plymouth Argyle, Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard, great players but no ideas in management. If PAFC stay up, and its a BIG IF, it will be a successful season
You'd argue that would have been the case whoever they'd appointed. It's well reported that Rosenior was offered the job first, which would have been an exceptional appointment. I'm really intrigued to see how this pans out!
Hiring a manager with a 26% win rate is shameful and stupid, especially after Ian Foster. Neil Dewsnip needs to go if this doesn't work out - the last 4 managers have just been his scouser friends. We got lucky with Lowe and Schumacher.
I hate this appointment but there's nothing I can do other than get behind Rooney. He has the best chance to succeed with a full off-season and staff with him, something Foster didn't.
This is the glimmer of hope, he has both a full summer transfer window and pre-season for the first time as a manager in England. If he can't succeed here, I think that's curtains for him.👎
Good balanced piece
Cheers 👍
Let's be honest the only requirement to be a manager at Plymouth is if you are from the Liverpool area as demonstrated by the last 3 managers and now Rooney. Dewsnip just hiring friends essentially and not the best candidates. I guess eventually you may hit one successful candidate like this but i wont take that bet.
You do have to question if that pool of managers eventually becomes worse. However, it's reported that Rosenior was offered the job first, so perhaps he did try to deviate slightly! 😂
Bring back Gus Honeybun as manager...can't be any worse...
Oh dear it will be more Argyle socks [or sucks] rather than Plymouth Argyle.
An utter farce, Not wanted here!
We should have looked at Ian Evatt, Nigel Adkins, Pete Wild or Andy Whing. All far better managers than Mr Rooney.
We will struggle or be relegated ive watched since 1970 not next season and he's been given a 3 year contract.
He's not moving down either a real disaster for Argyle.
Its not personal, its his record
I can understand your frustration, but Ian Evatt certainly wouldn't have been your answer either. I'm so surprised Pete Wild hasn't been looked at by anyone, but it may be that he wanted to stay in the north! We know Rosenior was offered the job first, which would have been a great fitt, but let's see how the season pans out. 👍
Derby fan here! You are kidding yourselves on if you think Rooney is the right man for the job! Relegation is coming your way
It's going to be interesting for sure. It's probably his last chance at this level, at a well run club with circumstances in his favour. He has no choice but to succeed from a managerial career point of view!
As a Birmingham fan I can tell you this is a big mistake , I hope I'm wrong .But what we heard from people in the know at our club , he was terrible to the players , showed up late or not at all for training and has zero man management skills , I hope you don't end up like us , but it seems like history is repeating ?
That's weird that he didn't turn up or turned up late to training, if he did that as a player we'd have been hearing about it all the time
@@simonpassmoreThey caught him asleep a couple of times at the training ground
@@Mallorcablues1981 you got any sort of evidence for that or did someone just tell you it
@simonpassmore my cousin's mate is one of the coaches for the under 21s and he told me
It's going to be an interesting one. It's surely his last chance at this level, so he has to take it with the advantage of a pre-season and transfer window! 👍
The problem with Rooney as you will find is all the negative publicity he brings with him
Every time you lose the media jump all over him, he never connected here at Brum , the players and fans hated him ,
Good luck with him but i do fear for you KRO
This is a fair point. The issue with media negativity around Rooney can drag a club down with him if things aren't going well. Not his fault but a factor that has to be considered.
Shocking decision this
It's a surprise to say the least!
I think you’ve summed that up pretty well. The more I talk to people and think about the more on board I am. He’s never had a transfer window or a preseason. Most experienced managers would struggle in those circumstances. I’m fully behind the board in their decision and staying positive. COYG! 💚
It's his last chance at this level, you would think. It was going to be a tough season for Plymouth either way. It could end up being a perfect fit. Now let's hope Plymouth vs Luton is a summer fixture! 🤞
Birmingham city fan. Sorry but Rooney is a class less person. Great player who will never make a manager and has zero communication skill. Your away fans who expect to be acknowledged at the end of the game do not hold your breath. He has nothing. No class. No man management skills. Wait for his interviews and tell me different. Errrrrrrrr will be very high
Oh well at least you will have spent 2 seasons in the championship.
I wouldn't rule out 3 yet. We see some clubs implode every season! 😂
This is an exciting appointment, but no idea how it will play out. Maybe with his ultra high profile he will be able to attract players that don’t normally want to come to our remote location. Who knows? Not long to wait until we find out🤞
It's certainly a possibility but as Birmingham saw, commercial value and profile isn't everything. I'm interested to see how the summer transfer window goes but he needs a good start this season! 👍
Looney will get you relegated. He ay got a clue.. Terrible manager
I'm not sure people expected many Birmingham City fans were going to be leaping to his defence! 😂
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Every club he's been at not done well 🙈
Oh, My oh, my. I really feel sorry for the players and the fans. Chin up boys and girls, he'll be gone by Christmas. Great players don't always make great managers. I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall when the owner/board either a), we've been approached by Rooney's agent, or, b), what about Wayne Rooney, he's free... He did help get Birmingham get relegated.. Yep, we'll have some of that!! Wishing you all the best......
It's interesting. As a manager in England, he's never had the combination of a full active summer transfer window and a normal pre-season. He has no excuses if this one goes wrong but it'll be intriguing to see what he does with his last chance.
Really sorry for Argyle fans. Can't see this working out. He's like Mark Hughes as an ex-Man U player getting job after job despite failing.
When I was a kid, Mark Hughes did some very good jobs. It no doubt went awry for him from Stoke onwards, but I think that overall comparison is a touch harsh.
Rooney will do well, look at Lowe and Schumacher he will be loved down hear
He'll be given a chance by the fans, which is the main thing. 👍
You know what dunno y but got a crazy feeling he guna be alright dont ask me why was absolutely shite for us blues fan
It's a very different club and approach he's walking into. If he can't take advantage of a full pre-season and transfer window though, hell be in for a tough ride! 👍
Bring back Gus Honeybun as manager...can't be any worse...
Argyle are massive that's the chant....as much as I'd like to believe that truth is we missed the boat many moons ago. This for me is about exposure and investment. Undoubtedly Wayne massively ups the profile of the club.....I'm very unsure of his management credentials but apparently he came to us we didn't go to him....that shows some kind of will. So I will give him every chance just worries me that if he doesn't get off to a flyer the hate mob will be right on it. Welcome Wayne COYGs
This is key as you say, he has to start well. With a full pre season and transfer window, he won't really have many excuses either. 👍
I see ,Strangley The Newcastle fans said how well Graham Jones did when tacking over for a game or 2 when Steve Bruce was sacked said good things in the media n talked well n was calm , but I wouldn't know about Luton I respect your better judgement
To be fair, that came after so I'm sure he learned plenty from it. Perfectly suited to a coaching role though. 👍
They must be barking mad. The only reason he did ok in the US was his back room staff. But hell it will be an interesting ride.
That's why I said that adding Mike Phelan is so important. He's got to have proven quality coaching and experience alongside him, as realistically, he cannot afford to fail in this job!
they go down
We live in a 🤡 🌎. Plymouth to end below Oxford.
Correct
Hope so as an oxford fan, we need all the help we can get 😉 if it does go wrong hopefully they sack him before he does too much damage, cant imagine what its like if youre a plymoth fan waiting for exciting transfer news and getting this instead
Its damn right depressing we look forward to handing you 3 points next season 😂
I think that's a possibility anyway, Oxford are a good side! 👍
How does someone who's a proven failure keep getting these jobs?
He failed at Birmingham. Did average at DC and Derby was an absolute car crash off the pitch.
Here he has backing, freedom, a full transfer window and pre-season too. He's got no excuse!