This is not exactly how it goes. If you people don't want this community to progress and secure its future , yeah, this is the right way to do it. If this is what you are up to, sure, you can have it all the way. The way I see it: I am located in Europe. I have recently bought a UV-5R having the absolute minimum knowledge of the whole technology and no awareness of the HAM community. Trying to learn how to use this radio I learned many things about the community etc. The more I learn the more I am into this, and now I want to get my license in order to be able to fully explore all the aspects and possibilities. Does the community need new people that will continue and progress on this like me or not? If I haven't got my hands on this cheap radio I wouldn't be here watching videos and wanting to learn more.
@@octap79 at 69 raised 4 kids. Buried, a wife and one child. The rest is gone I went back to my radio. And found many changes. New equipment I never dreamed of kinda like a steam boat engneer being dropped in to a atomic sub I have a idea how it works. The tools. Have changed drastically. Yes get ham lience. //Used to be a radio operator for army, and worked for Sylvania ( gt&e) be of good cheer and best 73s. Ps I learned to solder from my mother. And built my first radio at 7 think of schematic as a road map and you got it. Kv4li. Out
@@stephenwilliams5201 Nothing less than my ultimate respect to you Stephen. Wish I find someone with your knowledge in my area to learn from (the basics are the most valuable, Technology is the latter).
Ya i got one but dont have a licence but im studing.so the only thing I can do on it is listen to the fm radio and may not tslk on it unless it is a emergency. Unfotually I have learning disabilties and have a hard time understanding the questions for the test.
I really liked your video. Well done. The main issues with the FCC are the spurious emissions are not in spec, the various Baofeng radios use the one FCC approval number and are each model needs a certification number. There is also a type acceptance issue with the radios. Just because Amazon sells it doesn't make it legal. The new Baofeng GT-5R fully complies with FCC Part 97 rules. It has the same cost and uses the Baofeng UV-5R accessories! I completely agree in an emergency the rule book goes right out the window. Great video 73 DE KF5EKG
I own 2 of the Boafeng radios, purchased them before the ban and I now I use the FM channel to listen to my favorite talk shows. Its not worth it for me getting nailed with fines that start out at $19k dollars a day. I will have to buy a legal 2m radio if I want to use repeaters. But first I am going to set up my HF ham shack. My stuff was shipped yesterday can't wait... I felt like you, FCC can come and get mine, but after sitting on it for a time NOT WORTH IT!
@@Badcode0101 Well as long as i can still hear the same retards on cb channel 6 all over the country that ive bwen hearing for the last 20 years, then the fcc must not be out knocking down violators doors just yet. Give me a break, those morons on channel 6 are doing way more than someone running a baofeng radio.
Is not about freedom, The guy in the video is missing the whole point and giving wrong information, is not about Baofeng paying the FCC to have the sticker on the back what makes the difference, it is about blocking the radio to transmit outside of the Ham bands because the Baofeng radios power output is 5 watts and on FRS "family radio frequencies the maximun power output allowed is 2 Watts, if the radio was only 2 watts then it would be legal to transmit on FRS because no license is needed, on GMRS frequencies a FCC license is required and it is different than a Ham radio license and the FCC allows up to 50 watts and a repeter use, the license is easy to get just pay about $60.00 dollars and no test required and covers the whole family but to get a Ham license is not that easy you have to study a book and learn: Chpt 1 - Introduction. Chpt 2 - Radio & Signal Fundamentals. Chpt 3 - Electricity, Components & Circuits. Chpt 4 - Propagation, Antennas & Feedlines. Chpt 5 - Amateur Radio Equipment. Studying for a Technician License. Why getting a baofeng radio if you are not a Ham radio licensed operator? buy GMRS radios , get the license so you can use them at all times.
What about the homebrew radio's folks build that are not type accepted but fully legal under Part 97? I dont think the FCC is going to come after any individual. It's up to the amateur community to police ourselves.
These radios are only illegal if you are using it outside of the amater radio spectrum. You and any amateur radio operator may even build their own radio if they so wish to take the time and effort to do so. The reason these have come under such scrutiny is that many people have purchased these for use on other portions of the radio spectrum outside of the amateur radio spectrum. SO PLEASE STOP CALLING THESE RADIOS ILLEGAL WHEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY LEGAL FOR AMATEUR RADIO USE!
The guy in the video is missing the whole point and giving wrong information, is not about Baofeng paying the FCC to have the sticker on the back what makes the difference, it is about blocking the radio to transmit outside of the Ham bands because the Baofeng radios power output is 5 watts and on FRS "family radio frequencies the maximun power output allowed is 2 Watts, if the radio was only 2 watts then it would be legal to transmit on FRS because no license is needed, on GMRS frequencies a FCC license is required and it is different than a Ham radio license and the FCC allows up to 50 watts and a repeter use, the license is easy to get just pay about $60.00 dollars and no test required and covers the whole family but to get a Ham license is not that easy you have to study a book and learn: Chpt 1 - Introduction. Chpt 2 - Radio & Signal Fundamentals. Chpt 3 - Electricity, Components & Circuits. Chpt 4 - Propagation, Antennas & Feedlines. Chpt 5 - Amateur Radio Equipment. Studying for a Technician License. Why getting a baofeng radio if you are not a Ham radio licensed operator? buy GMRS radios , get the license so you can use them at all times.
sooo if I program my baofeng 888S to only operate in the ham bands, I am legal with my FCC amateur license? Thats the way i understand it. big brother is watching us...mannn
If I dont have a license, If I own the Baofeng BF-H7 (It doesnt have the FCC number imprinted on the back). If I use the radio for scanning & listening to the built in FM radio, according to the FCC is that legal?
Thanks! Enjoyed your report. Here in New Zealand laws are different. Baofeng on my to-buy list. Licensing, perhaps ... Ham radio club, definitely ... practice groups, certainly! ---- shalom --- loved the wind chimes. God bless.
I'm just starting to get into ham radios. I have some Motorola T460's. I'm looking for a good radio just in case everything goes to pot. Looking at baofeng radios but can't decide what to get. Any suggestions? Thanks
It's my understanding that if your radio is capable of transmitting outside of the amateur radio bands, which Baofengs are, then it is illegal to import, market, sell or use. Even if it has a FCC id number. It having a FCC ID number doesn't mean anything if the radio in question is violating the specifications that it was licensed under.
There may be a bit of ambiguity regarding this subject, but if the radio has an FCC ID number, it is safe for the user to assume that it is type accepted, and legal. If the radio has NO FCC ID number, then it is not legal to use. Please feel free to protect yourself by whatever means you deem necessary. If you don't feel comfortable using a Boafeng radio that has an ID number, don't do it. As for me, my opinion stands as stated in the video. Thanks for the feedback.
I just purchased one on Amazon in August of 2019... Baofeng UV 5R and it doesn't have the FCC id no. It has the FCC logo but not an entire ID number. What does that mean?
If Amateurs can only use radios that only transmit on amateur frequencies. How can we fulfill the 97.403 part about Safety of Life or property if we cannot contact another amateur and have to go any station that can hear us?
Thanks for your input on these Chinese handheld transceivers. Those Baofeng transceivers are open and can transmit on Police, Fire, etc which is a NO, NO. A ham license operator can open up any transceiver radio but can only transmit on legal ham bands. You can buy RT System software to program the Baofeng UV-S9 not to transmit on those government/ businesses frequencies, monitoring is OK in most cases
I have a dumb question. I have a sea fairing boat with a VHF IC-M302 I have hade many years works well. and I can talk to the coast guard in needed is it still legal.
Anyone here own a printer? It's just a sticker... ;) "See Mr.FCC govt man, all my radios are legal..." Edit: Heck, i just checked both my Baofeng UV-5R's that have wideband transmit, and both of them have the FCC sticker. Guess someone in China knows how to run a printer...lol.
Why not just get a nice 11 meter CB radio with SSB? No license needed and you can easily talk 40 miles, even1000’s if the weather conditions are right. This line of sight vhf, uhf equipment just doesn’t carry very far unless you enjoy using repeaters, setting channel offsets etc.
Remember the Yaesu FT 101 amateur transceiver of the 1970's. They wee easily modified to enable 11 meter use. There were, and probably still are, a lot of them on the citizens band.
FCC dropped the ball years ago by not fining and restricting Boafeng in the U.S. for their brazen violations of flooding the market with cheap radios that cause chaos on airwaves across the country with interference. Why would other companies spend a lot of money on R&D and expensive certification process if Baofeng or other cheap Chinese products don’t bother complying with our regulations.
I guess I am missing something here. Are these radios (no FCC ID) illegal to have in your possession or just become illegal when you use them to transmit? It's my understanding the ones in question are not locked down to "HAM" bands and can transmit on NOAA freqs etc. So if you don't have a Amatuer Radio Operators license, these are illegal to transmit with period, or do they transmit on CB an FRS freqencies?. Am I missing something? If you don't don't have a Amateur Lic, you can't transmit with or without a FCC ID sticker. If you have a license then you can transmit with or without the sticker. I don't see what changed here other than FCC publicly saying HAMs can use it on HAM bands...
Can you provide the specific FCC code section that refers to MuRS frequency use during an emergency (life/property at risk) at greater than 2 watts, or email us the section. We are a fire safe council hoping to use a MURS frequency at greater than the 2watts when there is no power, no phones and at fire evacuation risk.
Update 2019 the retailer's still sell the radios and is legal for us to buy from what I read the manufactures changed the software but the hardware is the same. The radios are programmable and these silly little rules are easily sidestepped. You can thank the Japanese manufactures who pressured The FCC into doing these ridiculous rules. How can society have better checks and balances. We have moral obglations fuck the politics and ridiculous retail war that we get caught in the middle of.
I don't have a ham license, I should probably get one. What about GMRS? I have a GMRS license, and I have 2 Baofeng GMRS V1 radios. Am I still permitted to use these?
I do not have a GMRS license and know very little about GMRS. I don't know if the regular Baofeng radios are legal for GMRS use or not. My guess would be no. If you have a radio that was licensed as a GMRS radio, and only transmits on those channels, it is probably still OK to use.
YET, amateur home built equipment which could be capable of operation outside of ham bands requires NO FCC certification. Of course such equipment must not cause interference outside of the ham bands, and the builder must operate it in a manor that does not cause interference outside of the ham bands. SO, I maintain that if I can insure that a non-fcc certified radio will meet the same requirements as a home brew radio, it should be legal for me to operate it. Consider that WAR SURPLUS equipment was NEVER FCC certified, and it was NOT home brew (but probably ham modified to make it work, usually meant modifying the power supply), and THAT was legal.
The only thing ilegal is to transmit without a lisence in those radios and any other radio that are in the gmrs or ham frequencies or frequencies that are illegal to transmit
Question if the programming of the radio sets the transmitting range then one can operate the radio if this poor understanding of the law this can BIT Are you saying that one can not build and operate the radio ??? i think that one that ouens the radio can indeed use it if programmed this is a good test for the law I do not have one of these radios this could be interesting to watch
So... As a ham you can design and build a radio... you can align a radio... and you are 100% responsible for your equipment. So, why would FCC certification matter to anyone but a reseller? All that matters _(if you're properly licensed)_ is that your can ensure that your equipment and usage is license conformant. And nowhere in the license does it say you can only operate FCC approved commercially available radios. So, it ain't happening! What they DO need to crack down on is the amateur band units being sold to the general public as "walkie talkies" ... I've heard kids and their mom gibbering away on UHF, not a callsign in sight. The general public just aren't being told that these are not general use PMR radios. There was also a local warehouse near me using them on 2m... I tracked them down, went in to see the site manager and explained the situation - they were still doing it two weeks later (on a different channel) so I reported them and handed over my evidence that they were already fully aware and were now deliberately abusing the spectrum. It stopped, and I assume they got fined. We have to stop advertisers marketing these as "walkie talkies" as widespread abuse just makes an argument for further band restriction. We don't want 2m/70cm becoming the new 'muppet band'
Thank you for explaining. Purchased Yaesu 65 you described in previous video. Tech Test tomorrow. Also want Baofeng so appreciate your knowledge. Settling in NW AR next spring. PJF subscriber also
First they came for my house and I did not cry, then they came for my car and I did not cry, in they came again and took my dog yet still I did not cry. But when they came for my Baofeng I said 'take them all' for they are stored in a steel box at the bottom of the Lake...
Yes I have two Baofeng radio's and I will keep using them. But, I will use them with in the legal frequency range. So how will they know? And yes I am licensed. Okay one of my Baofeng radio's has the sticker so is legal, as long as I only transmit with in the legal frequencies. The other one does not, but again. I only transmit on legal frequencies so who's to know? This is all so silly. I wonder if Yaesu, Icom and Kenwood are not behind this? Since they cannot or will not build a radio that can compete price wise.
KG5cuo - So they allow you if you have a licences? im just now getting my head out of the sand the radio i have does not have a fccid so i guess its time for me to buy another radio 73 KG5CUO
Privacy, no. The gubment already gets all that from your computer and cell phone. In my opinion, the FCC is just trying to put a stop to these radios being used on non-ham frequencies and causing interference with others that have paid to license their use of the frequencies.
Actually your wife's radio is illegal as well. The UV-5R grant allows for 136 - 174MHz 1.3 Watts MAX, and 400-480MHz 1.78 Watts MAX only, your wife's radio is capable of transmitting at a higher power than the grant allows. She would need a BF-F9V2+ for a certified part 90 radio.
Kind of a weird question but thinking of moving to Arkansas in 2020 (the summer of July).. Looking for someone that knows the areas around little Rock, hot springs and NW Arkansas.. Or in general anywhere from hot springs north to the NW area... Also a ham radio operator KG7QIS out of Washington state.. But any help would be greatly appreciate
It is ridiculous for the GOV to restrict the sale or possession of a piece of equipment. What if I built my own radio that matched the capabilities of the UV-5R? If I violate the regulations (they are not laws, just regulations) then they can come after me,until then leave me alone. PS- I am a HAM and a GMRS license holder.
@@jroysdon i doubt that anyone will stop using baofengs tbh like what's the FCC gonna do. Come to your house to check if your equipment complies with their laws? 🤣 Nah
@@alexderpyracc4053 - agreed, just wanted to clarify the law. If the FCC really wants to enforce a change, they need to do it with the importers and sellers like Amazon.
You mention that clause as though it applies only to us as ham radio operators which isn't true, any person licensed or not can use whatever means possible to prevent lose of life! I am curious with the radio your wife owns being FCC certified if it is still currently capable of transmitting out of the amateur band? Also I know for a fact Amazon is still selling baofeng radios such as the UV-82 which do not have a FCC type acceptance on them as I have seen people scramble to buy them before they get taken off the market and this was within the past week!
I have not seen a clause like that in part 90 or 95 of the FCC rules; only part 97 which covers amateur radio. If you have found the clause elsewhere, please share. Yes, my wife's radio is type accepted under part 90 and is capable of transmitting outside the amateur bands. To clarify: for a radio to be legal and NOT be type accepted (certified), and not having an FCC ID number, it must transmit in amateur bands ONLY. If the radio IS type accepted under part 90, which allows transmission outside amateur bands, it is legal, and can also be used for amateur radio. The FCC is trying to stop the influx of non-certified radios that are capable of transmitting on licensed business frequencies.
There is also the possibility that the FCC will apologize to the American public and acknowledge that they have come to realize the folly of their ways........ could happen........ lol
At about 05:50 you talked about a benefit of being an licensed Amateur Radio Operator with respect to life or property being at risk and thus being able to use an unapproved radio.... (EDIT to add: my comment is for the United States...other countries can have very different laws, including prison terms for misuse or even possession of a transmit-capable radio) If lives or property are at risk, then ANYONE can use any radio to call for help or to help someone else with an emergency situation. One does not have to be an licensed operator to have that temporary authorization in such conditions. Under such conditions, it is also OK to use power levels higher than normally permitted in a given frequency band. A risk of course, is that the authorities may not agree with your assessment of the criticallity of a given situation. Let's say we're at a lake and I have a stroke and am unconscious and we know the only communications that works is my radio that reaches a mountain-top repeater. But, my sister isn't a licensed HAM but does know how to use the radio (because we input the repeater settings ahead of the trip and I trained her how to use the radio in an emergency). It is 100% OK for her to use my radio to call for medical help, even if she forgets some of the protocols during the situation.
If it has FCC Part 90 then it is only legal for business band use and if it has the Part 97 (Amateur Radio) then it only good for amateur radio use and if it has the Part 95 (Citizens Radio Service, the old CB rules) on it it is good for only use on MURS/FRS and by licensed GMRS operators depending on the model.
I can build and have built .my own ham radios which are obviously not FCC type accepted nor have any FCC I'D Number and yet I can legally operate them on the ham bands. I DON't see how/why it could be illegal. Ditto for much of my old HF gear from the 1940's, 50's and 60's. The same is true of the Baofengs... just Don't operate them outside of the ham bands. These days thousands of hams are using Baofenga regularly. Furthermore, if you want you can program the Baofenga so as.to lock.out anything.outsise of the ham bands or, in channel mode.you can lock.out any channels that are programmed to non ham frequencies. In such cases you can monitor the channel but prevent it from transmitting on that channel should.the PTT button be pressed.
Yes, the VHF marine mobile units are usually 1 or 2 watts on low and 25 on high. But then you would have the USCG tracking you down, they very much do go after illegal users of the marine frequencies. Yes, the marine mobile unites are usually 1 or 2 watts on low and 25 on high. Had a couple of local CB'ers get arrested by the MA State PD and a US Marshall for operating on VHF channel 16 with Midland VHF marine walkie talkies while out hunting (saltwater fowl hunting). They each got a $10.000 fine, 5 years probation, 500 hours community service, all of their radio equipment confiscated and can never hold a license to operate any type of radio ever again and may never own or use any type of transmitting equipment, ever!.
Actually, it hardly matters what the license says about emergencies ... ANY individual may use ANY equipment if it is necessary to prevent loss of life - at least, to the extent that they don't KNOWINGLY risk another life to do so. This falls under the common-law defence of "strict necessity" ..... if you were in a prop plane and the pilot has a stroke? Anyone MAY use the aircraft radio, licensed or not! A police officer down? Then anyone MAY use his police radio strictly for the purpose of saving a life! The FCC may explicitly authorise emergency use out-of-band as an amateur licensee... but if you are NOT a licensee, you are actually FAR better defended when it comes to claiming necessity. After all, you have less options, less knowledge and less responsibility to primary users. As an amateur ... you still have the exact same right, but you accept full responsibility for doing so. So you're certainly no better off (legally) as a licensee in such a situation. Not that I'm arguing against getting licensed... the license is cheap and invaluable! It ain't about the paper. I'm not referring to SHTF situations. SHTF use typically isn't about immediate life-threatening messages. It is about organising, staying safe and avoiding life threatening situations - and that activity is NOT covered by acts of necessity... nor is it covered by the amateur license as regards law or liability for operating out-of-band. The license doesn't cover you for _"preventing a life from becoming endangered"_ ... the threat has to be immediate and tangible. A true WROL situation is different, but at that point you're talking government collapse. It's unlikely... but, in such an event we can tear up all the licenses. You can sing songs on the police bands and pee from rooftops. Give a baofeng to your dog... y'know... general pandemonium : )
I don't know about your country but in my country amateur radio can use any radio they want so long as they are on the ham bands and within the limits for bandwidth and power including home built transmitters.
Do yourself a favour, get them to ban them. Unlicensed operators have destroyed our repeater system in UK and made it almost useless by blocking channels. Now repeaters use lots of attenuation but still enough pirates close enough to block them. Repeaters that had a +50 mile range now normally restricted to 10 miles.
Let's see, you can buy a product legally that will blow my freakin head off in half a second, another that will kill me slowly with second hand smoke (and it did) and another that will rot my liver, But a $10 Chinese radio??? OMG FCC Save Us Save Us Please from these horrible things. Make it stop!!!!!
just like another guy said in a video about this subject all this boils down too is kenwood - yeasu and other big name radio manufacture's are the one's gripping too the fcc because their sales are dropping due too these cheap radios on the market. and i believe him so blame kenwood - yaesu and all the others when a person wants to buy a radio for 60 bucks instead of 2000 or more. they are pricing new people out of ham radio with their ridiculous prices only doctors or millionaires can afford. the normal working man can't.
This is advisory is silly for numerous reasons. The barn door is is already open and there are probably over 1 million of these type of radios out there. But more confusing for me are the rules. To my understanding amateur radio operators operate under part 97 requirements and do not require any certification for radios. Indeed there are many custom built radios that do have the ability to operate outside the ham bands and they are legal. There are also more expensive radios sold that can operate outside the ham bands with no or simple modification. So I am not a legal expert but I don't see the relevance whether the radio has part 90 certification or not. Also it is within the FCC rules for hams to operate outside the ham bands in case of emergency and people have been rescued because they had this capability. I think the FCC will backtrack on this advisory.
If your homebrew transceiver can transmit outside the amateur radio band that you hold a license for, then that radio is illegal to operate. It would need to be certified.
@@EdWatts You are wrong. If you can transmit outside the amateur band, it isn't an amateur radio and would require FCC certification. Not my rules, it's the FCC's rules.
@@djsoundzentertainment42: Not so. LOTS of (nearly all) older amateur radio transmitters would (usually unintentionally!) transmit outside the limits of amateur bands, and they, neither then nor now, required any sort of certification. Likewise, many "modern" radios become quite frequency agile by merely snipping a jumper wire or a diode, but they are not subject to retro-certification when the modification is made. These radios will, however, earn the operator a "pink slip" from the FCC if the emissions are found to be outside frequencies authorized for amateur service.
Everybody yells Baofeng. It applies to MANY radios, including Yaesu, Kenwood, Icom, TYT, and others. Any that can be made to transmit 136-174 and 400-480Mhz.
Thank heaven the government is protecting us from uncertified radios.
ill sleep better tonight knowing that
I kinda sorta think the govt is not worried about a Chinese radio. Just now
This is not exactly how it goes. If you people don't want this community to progress and secure its future , yeah, this is the right way to do it. If this is what you are up to, sure, you can have it all the way. The way I see it: I am located in Europe. I have recently bought a UV-5R having the absolute minimum knowledge of the whole technology and no awareness of the HAM community. Trying to learn how to use this radio I learned many things about the community etc. The more I learn the more I am into this, and now I want to get my license in order to be able to fully explore all the aspects and possibilities. Does the community need new people that will continue and progress on this like me or not? If I haven't got my hands on this cheap radio I wouldn't be here watching videos and wanting to learn more.
@@octap79 at 69 raised 4 kids. Buried, a wife and one child. The rest is gone I went back to my radio. And found many changes. New equipment I never dreamed of kinda like a steam boat engneer being dropped in to a atomic sub I have a idea how it works. The tools. Have changed drastically. Yes get ham lience. //Used to be a radio operator for army, and worked for Sylvania ( gt&e) be of good cheer and best 73s. Ps I learned to solder from my mother. And built my first radio at 7 think of schematic as a road map and you got it. Kv4li. Out
@@stephenwilliams5201 Nothing less than my ultimate respect to you Stephen. Wish I find someone with your knowledge in my area to learn from (the basics are the most valuable, Technology is the latter).
If life or property in danger, you don't even need a license to transmit.
Ya i got one but dont have a licence but im studing.so the only thing I can do on it is listen to the fm radio and may not tslk on it unless it is a emergency. Unfotually I have learning disabilties and have a hard time understanding the questions for the test.
I dont even know how to call for a emergency!
if and when shtf, the rules go right out the window.
Whoa! Just found that my new UV5R is illegal! This makes it more exciting
to use! 😂😂😂
it's not
@Ty Black my wife’s uncle is the head of the east coast reflector group. He and they all said it’s ok and
An "Assault Radio"... Who'd have imagined ?
Fully semi automatic with a 100 channel clip
@@NoNORADon911 128 channel clipazine, man. Scaary
First the government wants to outlaw AR Rifle.
Now they want to out law AR Radio
I really liked your video. Well done. The main issues with the FCC are the spurious emissions are not in spec, the various Baofeng radios use the one FCC approval number and are each model needs a certification number. There is also a type acceptance issue with the radios.
Just because Amazon sells it doesn't make it legal.
The new Baofeng GT-5R fully complies with FCC Part 97 rules. It has the same cost and uses the Baofeng UV-5R accessories!
I completely agree in an emergency the rule book goes right out the window.
Great video
73 DE KF5EKG
Guess im breaking the law once again😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*COME AND TAKE IT*
A Judas Priest song just popped into my head. LOL
BTW this guy is wrong, bought a Radio on Amazon last week, no FCC ID, it has a CMIIT-ID fccid.io/CMIIT-ID-2017FP2633
I own 2 of the Boafeng radios, purchased them before the ban and I now I use the FM channel to listen to my favorite talk shows. Its not worth it for me getting nailed with fines that start out at $19k dollars a day. I will have to buy a legal 2m radio if I want to use repeaters. But first I am going to set up my HF ham shack. My stuff was shipped yesterday can't wait... I felt like you, FCC can come and get mine, but after sitting on it for a time NOT WORTH IT!
@@Badcode0101 Well as long as i can still hear the same retards on cb channel 6 all over the country that ive bwen hearing for the last 20 years, then the fcc must not be out knocking down violators doors just yet. Give me a break, those morons on channel 6 are doing way more than someone running a baofeng radio.
@@EliteGeeks Yup, me 2 I'll beat this rap by removing the illegal sticker!
Freedom with no rights
Rights with no freedom.
Free-doom!
Is not about freedom, The guy in the video is missing the whole point and giving wrong information, is not about Baofeng paying the FCC to have the sticker on the back what makes the difference, it is about blocking the radio to transmit outside of the Ham bands because the Baofeng radios power output is 5 watts and on FRS "family radio frequencies the maximun power output allowed is 2 Watts, if the radio was only 2 watts then it would be legal to transmit on FRS because no license is needed, on GMRS frequencies a FCC license is required and it is different than a Ham radio license and the FCC allows up to 50 watts and a repeter use, the license is easy to get just pay about $60.00 dollars and no test required and covers the whole family but to get a Ham license is not that easy you have to study a book and learn: Chpt 1 - Introduction. Chpt 2 - Radio & Signal Fundamentals. Chpt 3 - Electricity, Components & Circuits. Chpt 4 - Propagation, Antennas & Feedlines. Chpt 5 - Amateur Radio Equipment. Studying for a Technician License. Why getting a baofeng radio if you are not a Ham radio licensed operator? buy GMRS radios , get the license so you can use them at all times.
What about the homebrew radio's folks build that are not type accepted but fully legal under Part 97? I dont think the FCC is going to come after any individual. It's up to the amateur community to police ourselves.
These radios are only illegal if you are using it outside of the amater radio spectrum. You and any amateur radio operator may even build their own radio if they so wish to take the time and effort to do so. The reason these have come under such scrutiny is that many people have purchased these for use on other portions of the radio spectrum outside of the amateur radio spectrum. SO PLEASE STOP CALLING THESE RADIOS ILLEGAL WHEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY LEGAL FOR AMATEUR RADIO USE!
Some of them are illegal. Please go watch "Part 2" here: ruclips.net/video/-ON7z9nrqew/видео.html
The guy in the video is missing the whole point and giving wrong information, is not about Baofeng paying the FCC to have the sticker on the back what makes the difference, it is about blocking the radio to transmit outside of the Ham bands because the Baofeng radios power output is 5 watts and on FRS "family radio frequencies the maximun power output allowed is 2 Watts, if the radio was only 2 watts then it would be legal to transmit on FRS because no license is needed, on GMRS frequencies a FCC license is required and it is different than a Ham radio license and the FCC allows up to 50 watts and a repeter use, the license is easy to get just pay about $60.00 dollars and no test required and covers the whole family but to get a Ham license is not that easy you have to study a book and learn: Chpt 1 - Introduction. Chpt 2 - Radio & Signal Fundamentals. Chpt 3 - Electricity, Components & Circuits. Chpt 4 - Propagation, Antennas & Feedlines. Chpt 5 - Amateur Radio Equipment. Studying for a Technician License. Why getting a baofeng radio if you are not a Ham radio licensed operator? buy GMRS radios , get the license so you can use them at all times.
There is the harmonics issue that violates part 97.
Which model do you recomend to start? Theres to many models in Amazon to choose
How do they know if you are operating it inside the ham bands?
The reality is, if you are not interfering with someone on public safety or commercial frequencies, they will most likely never know.
So do many licensed hams. The FCC, however, does not have the field manpower to go test everyone's radios.
Do you nave an update for this video concerning the Sept 30 2019 date?
sooo if I program my baofeng 888S to only operate in the ham bands, I am legal with my FCC amateur license? Thats the way i understand it. big brother is watching us...mannn
If I dont have a license, If I own the Baofeng BF-H7 (It doesnt have the FCC number imprinted on the back). If I use the radio for scanning & listening to the built in FM radio, according to the FCC is that legal?
You can listen all you want, it is when you transmit that you are breaking the law.
They make a fairly decent, inexpensive scanner.
I saw the fcc logo on the back of the one you were saying didn't have it. I didn't see a ID number though
Thanks! Enjoyed your report. Here in New Zealand laws are different. Baofeng on my to-buy list. Licensing, perhaps ... Ham radio club, definitely ... practice groups, certainly! ---- shalom --- loved the wind chimes. God bless.
I'm just starting to get into ham radios. I have some Motorola T460's. I'm looking for a good radio just in case everything goes to pot. Looking at baofeng radios but can't decide what to get. Any suggestions? Thanks
My question is it legal to use the uv-5r for listening only without a license? If so, what frequencies? (Sorry I'm new to this hobby.
It's my understanding that if your radio is capable of transmitting outside of the amateur radio bands, which Baofengs are, then it is illegal to import, market, sell or use. Even if it has a FCC id number. It having a FCC ID number doesn't mean anything if the radio in question is violating the specifications that it was licensed under.
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There may be a bit of ambiguity regarding this subject, but if the radio has an FCC ID number, it is safe for the user to assume that it is type accepted, and legal. If the radio has NO FCC ID number, then it is not legal to use. Please feel free to protect yourself by whatever means you deem necessary. If you don't feel comfortable using a Boafeng radio that has an ID number, don't do it. As for me, my opinion stands as stated in the video. Thanks for the feedback.
That is correct. It can not tune or transmit on any frequency other than 2.0 ,1.25, meter, or 70 centameter bands.
More clarification in the recently uploaded part 2...
I just purchased one on Amazon in August of 2019... Baofeng UV 5R and it doesn't have the FCC id no. It has the FCC logo but not an entire ID number. What does that mean?
Yes I just noticed that.
I didnt have $150 to buy a handy talkie, do they honestly think I have $19k to give them? Lmao
If Amateurs can only use radios that only transmit on amateur frequencies. How can we fulfill the 97.403 part about Safety of Life or property if we cannot contact another amateur and have to go any station that can hear us?
Boafeng and pofung are the same company??
Pofung is the parent company.
Thanks for your input on these Chinese handheld transceivers. Those Baofeng transceivers are open and can transmit on Police, Fire, etc which is a NO, NO. A ham license operator can open up any transceiver radio but can only transmit on legal ham bands. You can buy RT System software to program the Baofeng UV-S9 not to transmit on those government/ businesses frequencies, monitoring is OK in most cases
I have a dumb question. I have a sea fairing boat with a VHF IC-M302 I have hade many years works well. and I can talk to the coast guard in needed is it still legal.
Yes it is still legal. It is type accepted for use on the marine band. If you look, you will likely find an FCC ID number on it somewhere.
this is not a hand held unit.
I know exactly what it is... www.universal-radio.com/catalog/marine/2385.html
Here is all the legal mumbo-jumbo from the FCC: fccid.io/AFJ268500
This radio is legal for use in the marine band.
thanks BROTHER.
Anyone here own a printer? It's just a sticker... ;) "See Mr.FCC govt man, all my radios are legal..."
Edit: Heck, i just checked both my Baofeng UV-5R's that have wideband transmit, and both of them have the FCC sticker. Guess someone in China knows how to run a printer...lol.
Seems like everybody should be able to use it in a emergency
So they're only running 1.3 Watts and 1.78W? Is that DC?
Why not just get a nice 11 meter CB radio with SSB? No license needed and you can easily talk 40 miles, even1000’s if the weather conditions are right. This line of sight vhf, uhf equipment just doesn’t carry very far unless you enjoy using repeaters, setting channel offsets etc.
Remember the Yaesu FT 101 amateur transceiver of the 1970's. They wee easily modified to enable 11 meter use. There were, and probably still are, a lot of them on the citizens band.
Tarsus ft 101
My old Johnson Viking 2 from the 1950'S HAS 11 meters on it because when that radio was made 11 meter was still.a.ham band.
FCC dropped the ball years ago by not fining and restricting Boafeng in the U.S. for their brazen violations of flooding the market with cheap radios that cause chaos on airwaves across the country with interference. Why would other companies spend a lot of money on R&D and expensive certification process if Baofeng or other cheap Chinese products don’t bother complying with our regulations.
Does it effect the stations too, or just hand held...
I have a baofeng that dont have a fcc Id number but I don't talk on it I use it as a scanner only am I safe ?
Yes. The reality is as long as you’re not interfering with others, the FCC will never know.
But does it ONLY transmit on ham frequencies.
2years later and these radios are still being advertised, sold and used. Millions of them and n circulation.
What did I miss?
I guess I am missing something here. Are these radios (no FCC ID) illegal to have in your possession or just become illegal when you use them to transmit? It's my understanding the ones in question are not locked down to "HAM" bands and can transmit on NOAA freqs etc. So if you don't have a Amatuer Radio Operators license, these are illegal to transmit with period, or do they transmit on CB an FRS freqencies?. Am I missing something? If you don't don't have a Amateur Lic, you can't transmit with or without a FCC ID sticker. If you have a license then you can transmit with or without the sticker. I don't see what changed here other than FCC publicly saying HAMs can use it on HAM bands...
When is the last time anyone checked your radios???
Hi i have a baofeng bf8hp im only using channel 8-14 is it illegal? Also i dont have license.can i still use it? Thanks
Someone; Please tell me is it just making more frequency restrictions, or collecting registrations? Maybe a underhanded way of doing both??
Can you provide the specific FCC code section that refers to MuRS frequency use during an emergency (life/property at risk) at greater than 2 watts, or email us the section. We are a fire safe council hoping to use a MURS frequency at greater than the 2watts when there is no power, no phones and at fire evacuation risk.
Update 2019 the retailer's still sell the radios and is legal for us to buy from what I read the manufactures changed the software but the hardware is the same. The radios are programmable and these silly little rules are easily sidestepped. You can thank the Japanese manufactures who pressured The FCC into doing these ridiculous rules. How can society have better checks and balances. We have moral obglations fuck the politics and ridiculous retail war that we get caught in the middle of.
I don't have a ham license, I should probably get one. What about GMRS? I have a GMRS license, and I have 2 Baofeng GMRS V1 radios. Am I still permitted to use these?
I do not have a GMRS license and know very little about GMRS. I don't know if the regular Baofeng radios are legal for GMRS use or not. My guess would be no. If you have a radio that was licensed as a GMRS radio, and only transmits on those channels, it is probably still OK to use.
YET, amateur home built equipment which could be capable of operation outside of ham bands requires NO FCC certification. Of course such equipment must not cause interference outside of the ham bands, and the builder must operate it in a manor that does not cause interference outside of the ham bands. SO, I maintain that if I can insure that a non-fcc certified radio will meet the same requirements as a home brew radio, it should be legal for me to operate it. Consider that WAR SURPLUS equipment was NEVER FCC certified, and it was NOT home brew (but probably ham modified to make it work, usually meant modifying the power supply), and THAT was legal.
The only thing ilegal is to transmit without a lisence in those radios and any other radio that are in the gmrs or ham frequencies or frequencies that are illegal to transmit
Question if the programming of the radio sets the transmitting range
then one can operate the radio
if this poor understanding of the law this can BIT
Are you saying that one can not build and operate the radio ???
i think that one that ouens the radio can indeed use it if programmed
this is a good test for the law I do not have one of these radios
this could be interesting to watch
So how can the FCC know you're using it.
Show me 1 case that the FCC enforced this... just 1... that is all I ask where a HAM was charged even $1 for this.
They dont have enough money to confiscate or impose any fines
Not enough money to go after anyone the hammers hate this
So do they both transmit and receive all the same frequencies ?
Yes, however, the Yaesu FT-65 needs a simple configuration modification. I cover that in this video: ruclips.net/video/PKFsbG86TS8/видео.html
So... As a ham you can design and build a radio... you can align a radio... and you are 100% responsible for your equipment. So, why would FCC certification matter to anyone but a reseller? All that matters _(if you're properly licensed)_ is that your can ensure that your equipment and usage is license conformant. And nowhere in the license does it say you can only operate FCC approved commercially available radios.
So, it ain't happening! What they DO need to crack down on is the amateur band units being sold to the general public as "walkie talkies" ... I've heard kids and their mom gibbering away on UHF, not a callsign in sight. The general public just aren't being told that these are not general use PMR radios. There was also a local warehouse near me using them on 2m... I tracked them down, went in to see the site manager and explained the situation - they were still doing it two weeks later (on a different channel) so I reported them and handed over my evidence that they were already fully aware and were now deliberately abusing the spectrum. It stopped, and I assume they got fined.
We have to stop advertisers marketing these as "walkie talkies" as widespread abuse just makes an argument for further band restriction.
We don't want 2m/70cm becoming the new 'muppet band'
I love my Baofeng UV-5RE. And my Yaesu FT-4VR 2 meter radio. 73 KO4IDL.
Thank you for explaining. Purchased Yaesu 65 you described in previous video. Tech Test tomorrow. Also want Baofeng so appreciate your knowledge. Settling in NW AR next spring. PJF subscriber also
First they came for my house and I did not cry, then they came for my car and I did not cry, in they came again and took my dog yet still I did not cry. But when they came for my Baofeng I said 'take them all' for they are stored in a steel box at the bottom of the Lake...
they will be the only ones working if we have a solar flare as long as that steel box is waterproof and handheld is in a cardboard box
God no NOT MY CAR
Cutie Tootie they can have my radio not my dog sorry.
If they came for my dog someone would be leaving in a coffin! (which would probably end up being me) but still, it's the principle of the matter.
And how about PMR?
Whatever become of this. I just got me a uv5r plus off eBay the other day..did the FCC lift the bann...
So… If I wanted to buy a baofeng radio, how do I know if it has an FCC ID on it, before buying it on Amazon?
Usually they show pics with battery off where the numbers are
Is it the radio itself? Or the improper use of it that is illegal? Is it illegal to simply listen and not transmit?
Realistically it is the improper use that is illegal. The FCC has just cracked down on 1 specific importer.
Yes I have two Baofeng radio's and I will keep using them. But, I will use them with in the legal frequency range. So how will they know? And yes I am licensed. Okay one of my Baofeng radio's has the sticker so is legal, as long as I only transmit with in the legal frequencies. The other one does not, but again. I only transmit on legal frequencies so who's to know? This is all so silly. I wonder if Yaesu, Icom and Kenwood are not behind this? Since they cannot or will not build a radio that can compete price wise.
James Hart I thought the exact same thing
KG5cuo - So they allow you if you have a licences? im just now getting my head out of the sand the radio i have does not have a fccid so i guess its time for me to buy another radio 73 KG5CUO
Do u think the FCC will use it to target or violate our privacy rights?
Privacy, no. The gubment already gets all that from your computer and cell phone. In my opinion, the FCC is just trying to put a stop to these radios being used on non-ham frequencies and causing interference with others that have paid to license their use of the frequencies.
Gordy Curious. Where can I go to learn what frequency ranges are for specific applications?
You should find these two documents helpful:
www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/2003-allochrt.pdf
www.fcc.gov/oet/spectrum/table/fcctable.pdf
What if I have one of these "illegal radios" and don't transmit and only receive is that ok?
So now if shtf do ya think you would be fined?
Actually your wife's radio is illegal as well. The UV-5R grant allows for 136 - 174MHz 1.3 Watts MAX, and 400-480MHz 1.78 Watts MAX only, your wife's radio is capable of transmitting at a higher power than the grant allows. She would need a BF-F9V2+ for a certified part 90 radio.
Yes. I discovered that after I made this video. Check out "part 2"...
Kind of a weird question but thinking of moving to Arkansas in 2020 (the summer of July).. Looking for someone that knows the areas around little Rock, hot springs and NW Arkansas.. Or in general anywhere from hot springs north to the NW area... Also a ham radio operator KG7QIS out of Washington state.. But any help would be greatly appreciate
Suppose the label 'falls' off?
Superb honest advice.
I need a lie'cense to use az walkie talkie??
It is ridiculous for the GOV to restrict the sale or possession of a piece of equipment. What if I built my own radio that matched the capabilities of the UV-5R? If I violate the regulations (they are not laws, just regulations) then they can come after me,until then leave me alone. PS- I am a HAM and a GMRS license holder.
my baofeng has fcc certifacation and from what ive been reading and seeing they cant be used
There is a lot of mixed information out there. Check out "Part 2" of this video. Hopefully I do a better job of explaining in it.
Wait so your home build radio has to be approved first by the FCC?
No. So long as the radio won't transmit out of Part 97 bands and follows the rest of the rules, you are good to go.
@@jroysdon i doubt that anyone will stop using baofengs tbh like what's the FCC gonna do. Come to your house to check if your equipment complies with their laws? 🤣 Nah
@@alexderpyracc4053 - agreed, just wanted to clarify the law. If the FCC really wants to enforce a change, they need to do it with the importers and sellers like Amazon.
You mention that clause as though it applies only to us as ham radio operators which isn't true, any person licensed or not can use whatever means possible to prevent lose of life!
I am curious with the radio your wife owns being FCC certified if it is still currently capable of transmitting out of the amateur band?
Also I know for a fact Amazon is still selling baofeng radios such as the UV-82 which do not have a FCC type acceptance on them as I have seen people scramble to buy them before they get taken off the market and this was within the past week!
I have not seen a clause like that in part 90 or 95 of the FCC rules; only part 97 which covers amateur radio. If you have found the clause elsewhere, please share.
Yes, my wife's radio is type accepted under part 90 and is capable of transmitting outside the amateur bands.
To clarify: for a radio to be legal and NOT be type accepted (certified), and not having an FCC ID number, it must transmit in amateur bands ONLY. If the radio IS type accepted under part 90, which allows transmission outside amateur bands, it is legal, and can also be used for amateur radio. The FCC is trying to stop the influx of non-certified radios that are capable of transmitting on licensed business frequencies.
its still "We the People " right ?
Yes. We the People allow our government to infringe on all liberty's and Rights
how do you do an emergency call on a Baofeng fellas?
You...don't. Unlike 911, there's no guarantee that anyone will be monitoring any frequencies close enough to hear you.
Buy a satellite beacon.
There is also the possibility that the FCC will apologize to the American public and acknowledge that they have come to realize the folly of their ways........ could happen........ lol
Yupper and I hear hell is freezing over.
No part certification for ham radio.
Just bought a UV5R and will return it can't afford a fine.
Amazon is still selling the radios. November 22
Yes and those have an FCC ID.
At about 05:50 you talked about a benefit of being an licensed Amateur Radio Operator with respect to life or property being at risk and thus being able to use an unapproved radio....
(EDIT to add: my comment is for the United States...other countries can have very different laws, including prison terms for misuse or even possession of a transmit-capable radio)
If lives or property are at risk, then ANYONE can use any radio to call for help or to help someone else with an emergency situation. One does not have to be an licensed operator to have that temporary authorization in such conditions. Under such conditions, it is also OK to use power levels higher than normally permitted in a given frequency band. A risk of course, is that the authorities may not agree with your assessment of the criticallity of a given situation.
Let's say we're at a lake and I have a stroke and am unconscious and we know the only communications that works is my radio that reaches a mountain-top repeater. But, my sister isn't a licensed HAM but does know how to use the radio (because we input the repeater settings ahead of the trip and I trained her how to use the radio in an emergency). It is 100% OK for her to use my radio to call for medical help, even if she forgets some of the protocols during the situation.
I have a Boafeng Radio it does have a FCC ID. So im guessing im fine.
If it has FCC Part 90 then it is only legal for business band use and if it has the Part 97 (Amateur Radio) then it only good for amateur radio use and if it has the Part 95 (Citizens Radio Service, the old CB rules) on it it is good for only use on MURS/FRS and by licensed GMRS operators depending on the model.
Got it; scary black radio bad, pretty blue radio good
I can build and have built .my own ham radios which are obviously not FCC type accepted nor have any FCC I'D Number and yet I can legally operate them on the ham bands. I DON't see how/why it could be illegal. Ditto for much of my old HF gear from the 1940's, 50's and 60's. The same is true of the Baofengs... just Don't operate them outside of the ham bands. These days thousands of hams are using Baofenga regularly. Furthermore, if you want you can program the Baofenga so as.to lock.out anything.outsise of the ham bands or, in channel mode.you can lock.out any channels that are programmed to non ham frequencies. In such cases you can monitor the channel but prevent it from transmitting on that channel should.the PTT button be pressed.
What if I used a marine VHF radio? Aren't they more powerful? Like 25 watts?
Yes, the VHF marine mobile units are usually 1 or 2 watts on low and 25 on high.
But then you would have the USCG tracking you down, they very much do go after illegal users of the marine frequencies.
Yes, the marine mobile unites are usually 1 or 2 watts on low and 25 on high.
Had a couple of local CB'ers get arrested by the MA State PD and a US Marshall for operating on VHF channel 16 with Midland VHF marine walkie talkies while out hunting (saltwater fowl hunting).
They each got a $10.000 fine, 5 years probation, 500 hours community service, all of their radio equipment confiscated and can never hold a license to operate any type of radio ever again and may never own or use any type of transmitting equipment, ever!.
@@jfrphoto01 What if I live within 1 mile of the gulf of the gulf of Mexico?
It's all about making money for the F.C.C.
Pay to play
I'll just. keep my C.B.
That nobody uses anymore..
CB is alive
@@letitrotfuckit Man don't let everyone know ♨🎉💲💲💂
Mine has the fcc logo, but no number
the wet the whistle part was the best
Actually, it hardly matters what the license says about emergencies ... ANY individual may use ANY equipment if it is necessary to prevent loss of life - at least, to the extent that they don't KNOWINGLY risk another life to do so. This falls under the common-law defence of "strict necessity" ..... if you were in a prop plane and the pilot has a stroke? Anyone MAY use the aircraft radio, licensed or not! A police officer down? Then anyone MAY use his police radio strictly for the purpose of saving a life!
The FCC may explicitly authorise emergency use out-of-band as an amateur licensee... but if you are NOT a licensee, you are actually FAR better defended when it comes to claiming necessity. After all, you have less options, less knowledge and less responsibility to primary users. As an amateur ... you still have the exact same right, but you accept full responsibility for doing so.
So you're certainly no better off (legally) as a licensee in such a situation.
Not that I'm arguing against getting licensed... the license is cheap and invaluable! It ain't about the paper.
I'm not referring to SHTF situations. SHTF use typically isn't about immediate life-threatening messages. It is about organising, staying safe and avoiding life threatening situations - and that activity is NOT covered by acts of necessity... nor is it covered by the amateur license as regards law or liability for operating out-of-band.
The license doesn't cover you for _"preventing a life from becoming endangered"_ ... the threat has to be immediate and tangible.
A true WROL situation is different, but at that point you're talking government collapse. It's unlikely... but, in such an event we can tear up all the licenses. You can sing songs on the police bands and pee from rooftops. Give a baofeng to your dog... y'know... general pandemonium : )
I tried telling people this about the FCCID's on those chinafeng radios 5 years ago and people called me nuts. Well shit who's the nut now?
I dont like ham radio. Do they have bacon radio?
If you play electric guitars,,,,, they have a toast pedal
I Own Two Baofengs ANd Non Of Them Are Certified To Anything B3ecause Only Sticker Under The Battery Is About Battery Voltage
Like all the CB base stations that ran legally. Right? 😂🤣
what about those of us who listen only?
Thanks for the clarification
I don't know about your country but in my country amateur radio can use any radio they want so long as they are on the ham bands and within the limits for bandwidth and power including home built transmitters.
Same here in the U.S. We can take just about any radio and modify it for use in the amateur bands and use it legally.
Do yourself a favour, get them to ban them. Unlicensed operators have destroyed our repeater system in UK and made it almost useless by blocking channels. Now repeaters use lots of attenuation but still enough pirates close enough to block them. Repeaters that had a +50 mile range now normally restricted to 10 miles.
Let's see, you can buy a product legally that will blow my freakin head off in half a second, another that will kill me slowly with second hand smoke (and it did) and another that will rot my liver, But a $10 Chinese radio??? OMG FCC Save Us Save Us Please from these horrible things. Make it stop!!!!!
just like another guy said in a video about this subject all this boils down too is kenwood - yeasu and other big name radio manufacture's are the one's gripping too the fcc because their sales are dropping due too these cheap radios on the market. and i believe him so blame kenwood - yaesu and all the others when a person wants to buy a radio for 60 bucks instead of 2000 or more. they are pricing new people out of ham radio with their ridiculous prices only doctors or millionaires can afford. the normal working man can't.
This is advisory is silly for numerous reasons. The barn door is is already open and there are probably over 1 million of these type of radios out there. But more confusing for me are the rules. To my understanding amateur radio operators operate under part 97 requirements and do not require any certification for radios. Indeed there are many custom built radios that do have the ability to operate outside the ham bands and they are legal. There are also more expensive radios sold that can operate outside the ham bands with no or simple modification. So I am not a legal expert but I don't see the relevance whether the radio has part 90 certification or not. Also it is within the FCC rules for hams to operate outside the ham bands in case of emergency and people have been rescued because they had this capability. I think the FCC will backtrack on this advisory.
I agree 100%.
If your homebrew transceiver can transmit outside the amateur radio band that you hold a license for, then that radio is illegal to operate. It would need to be certified.
@@djsoundzentertainment42:
Nope. Only if one actually transmits on frequencies outside the limits of his license is a law broken.
@@EdWatts You are wrong. If you can transmit outside the amateur band, it isn't an amateur radio and would require FCC certification. Not my rules, it's the FCC's rules.
@@djsoundzentertainment42:
Not so. LOTS of (nearly all) older amateur radio transmitters would (usually unintentionally!) transmit outside the limits of amateur bands, and they, neither then nor now, required any sort of certification. Likewise, many "modern" radios become quite frequency agile by merely snipping a jumper wire or a diode, but they are not subject to retro-certification when the modification is made. These radios will, however, earn the operator a "pink slip" from the FCC if the emissions are found to be outside frequencies authorized for amateur service.
Im telepathic, does the fcc regulates, telepathic abilities?😂
Probably, as soon as they figure out how to receive them. LOL
Shadow Master call LAURA SMITH she'll let you know what she can do
What does the FCC do with all that money?
Everybody yells Baofeng. It applies to MANY radios, including Yaesu, Kenwood, Icom, TYT, and others. Any that can be made to transmit 136-174 and 400-480Mhz.