Using a Bass Guitar through a Line 6 Helix!
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👆 Lee and Nathan try out the Helix with a bass to find out how well it works for bassists.
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My wife and I use the Helix for bass and guitar; simultaneously. It works great. BTW, you can have up to 32 blocks in a preset, DSP permitting.
Whaaaaat?!
@@MrMann-gt1eh You can run 4 separate channels through it simultaneously. Running a guitar through one signal chain and a bass guitar through another is simple. BTW, my original post was 3 years ago and they've added all kinds of amps and effects and functionality since or free. Helix keeps getting better and better.
Versatility ... if you play Bass and Guitar then surely this is tough to beat at the price point... especially if you play live!
One of the reasons a lot of the amp models seem overdriven by default is that the default compressor model output is fairly hot. If you're finding you have to back off more than you'd expect on the amp drive, check the stuff before it in the signal chain, just like in a real world situation.
The Captain not being aware of Acoustic 360 bass amps was kind of a gut-punch.
Seriously, that's like a guitarist not being aware of Vox or Friedman or anything besides Marshall/Fender
@@jesuguru2394 Well, he's not a bassist
Lee is correct here... the presets ARE actually not very impressive or useful on the Helix. Compared to the presets on a Kemper or a Fractal unit the Helix really suffers. However, if you build your own presets you will find them every bit as sonically pleasing, and you'll also realise the Helix is leagues easier to utilise, than the aforementioned gear. I am an admitted Line 6 junkie but anyone who spends the time with it knows the Helix is seriously versatile and sounds phenomenal. It now forms the basis of my rig for both bass and guitar. It is worth mentioning that for full sonic quality you may prefer 3rd party cabs in the form of IR's (Impulse Responses; which, in this case, are emulated cabs) I also record vocals through the Helix and it is my main audio interface in the home studio. There's not a lot it can't do and anyone who claims the sound is substandard probably only heard the woeful presets and didn't sit down with it through an FRFR monitor or reasonably flat studio monitors to hear it's full tweak-able glory.
Martin Gordon that's really why I dont understand how the usually professionnal team at Andertons put out that kind of 45 minutes useless (or worse) video....
AH there were some good bits in there... I guess I would rather make my own video than cut anybody down for trying.
Funny how everyone has to immediately comment how helix sounds best with 3rd party impulses.... I think helix sounds pretty good but I find it odd that as soon as someone says they don’t like the tone it’s followed with “yeah but you just need 3rd party IR’s and it’ll sound great” Lol they’re not commenting on what other companies impulse will do, they’re speaking on the helix.
•allstopblue • You clearly have no clue. The reason people recommend IR's is because they sound better than the line 6 cabs. Simple. Try it yourself.
Martin Gordon that is the exact point I'm trying to make!! You gotta use another brands product for it to sound good!
Best wishes to Other Lee.
One of these days get a singer in there and demo the. Preamps vocals same time. One line for bass one for guitar, and maybe drums all at once. I bought my helix’s few months ago so impressed. Throw in the midi controls you have. Suprt and foundation for a great studio,
I like “All about the bass” very much!!! Have you guys checked out the Cort basses already? GB series are amazing!!!
I wish I could afford one of these!!! So awesome!
Did you ever get it? 😂
It's not a good Friday unless I get an All about the Bass video to check out.
I don't know anything about bass playing, but that sounds great!
Would love if you could do a more detailed version with more delay. reverbs and modulations and other fx for the bass. Really dive in!
Love that you're using Sire basses!
I love my DT 50s and variaxes and helix
I still have my pod. Hd pro x and pod hd 500x Wow nice synth sounds. What an smazujhnn
I like the bass, bass, biscuit bass, I like the buttery biscuit bass.
Oh boy I wish you had a line 6 Variax 700 bass or 705 bass. . I have a few 700 basses and one &05😊
Was very surprised Lee didn't know about acoustic amps...but then I remembered the current acoustic line is completely different than the original line of amps. I think the new line is basically guitar center/musicians friend only..and more budget friendly.
Guitards don't know bass... never recognize JPJ early days Acoustic 360 Royal Albert Hall-- only saw Page.
The “new” acoustics are rubbish. It’s Chinese made garbage
Yes! This is the review I have wanted!
Callum Ord this should have been the review i wanted...
Nathan needs opera-glasses... he's a great bass-player but is clearly as blind as a coot. ;)
Please do a video on Gallien Krueger MB series!
I saw that both XLRs were plugged in and got excited to hear some cool stereo bass effects! Very disappointed that you didn't have a reason to plug in the right channel.
I have been searching for this to see if a bass can plug into The Multi Effects pedalboards like Line6 Helix, pod Go and other similar kinds of these types of MultiFX pedalboard depending on brand. With fancy stuff and solo, we need effects for Bass to make it much more fancy stuff.
The *general* rule these days is if it’s digital it can do both bass and guitar, if it’s analogue mods may be required to avoid cutting the bass frequencies.
Through the 80’s and 90’s we did have seperate bass multi effects even though they were digital and that was mostly because they didn’t have the memory/storage/software suites, etc required for storing lots of sounds and patches. I’ve always suspected that things like the ME50 and ME50b were barely any different inside.
But yeah, for the last few years, and probably going forward, digital effects will be a one for all. The one gotcha is that because the guitar market is so much bigger they may release with guitar effects and have bass specific things like amp/cab emulation added later, best example being the GT1000 from boss that was about a year I think before they made bass patches available for download.
But yeah, it’s not like playing a bass through a DS-1 for example where you have to replace several capacitors to keep the bass
It's kind of an expensive solution for bass, since most bassists will only use a fraction of the features. That said, if you really use it a lot, and need the versatility in the studio and onstage, it seems like it can do it all.
It's also only any good if the whole band are guaranteed to have a decent monitor mix.
How do line 6 release their products with such shit presets? That's what people have been complaining about for years. They should just pay some pros and producers to make the stock presets so they aren't as laughable.
Great demo guys! It's a pity the Helix can't really handle the levels of an active bass though.. even with the -10db input Pad on you can still manage to get it to clip (depending on your bass of course)
Pretty sure I've seen somewhere that you're supposed to run active pickups into the aux in on the Helix instead?
I have had zero problems with any of my active basses. (Stingray 5 and Fender Precision Active Deluxe)
Excellent machine for bass as well as guitar - though you need to know what you are doing................
Lorneplumber so bad here...
Is this helix 6 work for both guitar and bass processor…?
Pearce BC as used by Billy Sheehan :-)
There is a fine line between noodling and grooving.
Edgy Grunt! :) 😆
You could never record a good dry track with The Damp Espadrilles !
Anyone younger than 60 should not be allowed to talk about bass guitar. Never heard of an acoustic 360 oh my God.
They should go more into the device and it's options for bass players before making a 45 minute video. These routing features are massive. Take a clean bass amp without cab and a clean or dirty guitar head with a cab and blend those to taste. Cabs tend to really make the lows hard to control when you just change them. Over those two little speakers it may not seem a big problem, but when you play through a 215/412/810 it really is way to problematic.
What model this line 6 ? How much ?
Helix. I picked one up used for 1200 usd about a year ago
I rolled my eyes every time he heard drive and asked for something "usable". Has this guy never heard how great bass can be with distortion?
Right though? They would have a heart attack at my pedalboard. Sooooo much drive and distortion on it
it's actually a crash of rhinos, not a herd. there's even a good UK band by that name
First thing I would have done with a device like that... BE GONE PRESETS.
- Compressors boring, move on!©
Are you really a bass player?
He's Mark King's brother, the legendary bass player of Level 42 (and compression lover... xD) and he's the guitar player in the band.
Why do some bassists try to play as many notes as possible when soloing, loosing all sense of musicality. Why not just play some groove
Don't limit yourself to " bass amps" on a modeler. Ax8 user here. Just like real life guitar amps make great bass amps.
I quite frequently find myself running something like a Mesa/Marshall/Soldano model alongside either a clean DI or bass amp model if i want some gain stuff.
Liam Podmore if I'm using a gain sound through a guitar amp I'll run a side chain with heavy compression and EQ out the highs.
Liam Podmore try 🍊 models ;)
Travis Griffin I feel kinda dumb asking this but is it dangerous to model a guitar amp on a bass like it is to use a real guitar amp with a bass?
Danny Aghdam it's not dangerous in real life or the modeling world to play bass through a guitar amp. In real life you should not use a guitar speaker for bass.
Years later and helix has still neglected adding to the minimal bass amps/effects. A little disappointing
I actually dislike the Kemper.
It doesn't look like an amp head. It looks like something out of "Lost in Space".
..and the sound is OK, but it doesn't take pedals well and it just seems like a generally over-priced pain in the butt.
No thanks.
"Ermagerd but it actually profiles amps instead of just modelling!"
Im sorry to say it dudes, but you got horrible sounds out of a good sounding piece.
I see that the both of you have been drinking a bit. I will not judge. I will drink with you and maybe make a purchase. I pray that my wife might forgive me after a stern chastising.
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I love everything I see
Honestly this video was very helpful. This bassist is a monster and willing to listen to a guitarist. God bless him
To be honest I would rather save up longer and get a Kemper
Your bass player looks totally confused, so am I..sounds better DI
That's up to personal preference. Some people like to keep it simple, some like to tweak their tone.
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The Peirce is based on Billy Sheenan's own personal amp that he used to get his signature drive sound
Correct, but spelt Pearce.
Pearce Pre-amps were made out of Buffalo NY by Dan Pearce. I still own the guitar Version of the pre-amp.
Is Lee replacing Lee?
That Sire sounds godly even without the Helix.
I like how patiently the Captain stimulates the ripple with his middle finger.
Thought i was the only one that noticed that hehe..
Yonk!
31:31 is a big muff, I think. I’m impressed with myself for knowing that without having to look at it.
Video 6 years ago...Helix 10 years ago...When will Line 6 release a HARDWARE update? The available processors and memory nowadays are far superior to 10 year old technology.
Eddie Grant had a massive hit with Electric Avenue, which had a edgy grunt synth bass bomb at the chorus by the way...
for bass, the HX Stomp ($600 USD) is a compact rig option with same amps/effects as the flagship Helix and has parallel routing for blending wet and dry signals (POD Go does not have this feature)
Should I get rid of my Headrush MX5? I'm a Bass player, and this is awesome as well.
The swedish bassist Erik Arkö uses a helix and makes the most amazing sounds coming out of it
Will we get Mark on one day?
Love'd Petes intervention after the "cougar" comment haha.
+1 for Danish Pete’s unappreciated innuendo humour :o)
It's a shame you guys didn't try the Obsidian 7000 distortion, as it's meant to be a very good model of the Darkglass B7k Ultra
I am walking proof that Helix presets can be used to gig live and record with.
I have used my Helix for the past year or so both with bass and guitar for live pub gigs, Church, recording and everything in between. They sound good. Period. I’ve made my own presets, tweaked factory presets and had nothing but praise from seasoned guitarists through to average joes with no musical experience.
The bottom line is that average joe eating at the local tavern doesn’t care if the band’s bass or guitar sounds a certain way. I have dialed in a sound which suits the context of where I’m using Helix and Helix lives up to its reputation sound wise and with reliability. I dare you to try it!
Fancy!
How about the Headrush pedalboard with bass?
It’s nice of you to do all your editing with the helix, if I were doing presets I’d use HX edit. Super easy much easier than doing it with the hardware, plugging the helix direct in sounds great. .
Nice. I’d love to see a video with 4 dufferebt electric instruments going through a helix at the same time
This is the bassist from Frost*?
Now vocals into the helix!!!
The Pearce is on there now? Lovely. Billy Sheehan used to use Pearce. He asked line 6 to model it for him.
Try some echo and some of the helix synths
30:41 is that a Chris Squire bass line I hear? Sounds very similar to Does It Really Happen.
Ewww. Y'all need to rehearse a bit before these demos. Half of it is not even hearing what the bass sounds like and 2 guys troubleshooting
very farty sounding, not convinced
the drive sounds so scrambled up and gravely
Huh ? WTF are you talking about? You seem to be the one with preconceptions here...
To answer, no not at all, Helix's are great, I get to get my hands on one almost every weekend, and I will probably own one someday.
It just sounded farty on a BASS, and yes I would be able to tell if a bass sounded farty be it going through a helix or or a full tube SVT, doesn't change the fact that it sounds farty.
That being said although the Helix has bass geared features in it, it most definitely isn't geared towards bassists, so it's not that surprising that the bass modelings do not sound as good as the guitar modelers (way less time spent on the Bass side of the Helix I would imagine)
RiffsNReviews I'm sure you can make it cleaner like 19:39 .
Of course the general rule is try it yourself. In this case, you can download the Helix Native 15 Day Free Trial.
I really think the Andertons team here unfortunately just didnt know how to use the product, speaking of the impulse section (amp/cab)...
I thought the Native bass amps were the best Ive heard in software, of course other IRs would help too. I wasnt thrilled by a lot of the sounds in this demo though, maybe its the bass, but it sounded like weird farty distortion on the bottom. On the software at least there was an input level to aim for to be accurate, it might be too hot in this case making the preamp part of the modelling fart out.
Way to much output from that bass :-/
My honest opinion it sounds to klinky not enough bass
I would like to see a head to head comparison between a Line6 Helix, and Line6 POD HD500X, just to see if the extra $1000 for the Helix is justified. 🎵🎸
for bass, the HX Stomp ($600 USD) is a compact rig opton with same amps/effects as the flagship Helix and parallel routing for blending wet and dry signals
This is an old video.
Playing bass without a cabinet simulator always sounds better than with a cabinet
It actually depends on the application and the bass tone/setup you are going for. I actually experienced the opposite, specially when trying to make my bass tone work in a mix. I wouldn't rule out experimenting with cabinets a little if I were you.
Depends, if you're using drive effects (or pushing a tube amp/sim) regularly, the cab sim will kill some of the really harsh highs that you get if running DI. If you're going for a purely clean tone...I can see wanting only the bass/amp tone
Bar Goldstein agreed. For me personally that’s the case the vast majority of the time anyway.
anyone have any presets they want to share?...I'm not too stoked on the presets either....I'd like one with crunch and clean simultaneously for metal....like ola likes to make....
Just jump into the SVT with the 810 fridge cab. No bass player needs more. You can get it in the PodGo for a fraction of the price.
any one use helix and bass thru the Tech 21 Power Engine Deuce Deluxe 1x12 with wood build, rear ports, HPF/LPF and switchable tweeter?
To every one who thinks they can plug into a piece of gear that will automatically make them sound better, it does not. You just can't plug it into a guitar amp and expect it to sound good without setting up the right configuration that your plugging into. I see a lot of people trying out some gear without thinking that a guitar amp is going to sound like a full range speaker then they think "this sucks" then go on to the next magic box that will make them sound like Jimi Hendrix by just plugging in to be disappointed yet again.
What if you play in a metal or death metal punk numetal or black metal what settings would you set it at
Spoiler alert Lee doesn't know what an Acoustic 360 is
John Paul Jones used to play Acoustic amps... come on Captain! :)
I don’t know if the bass player is either blind or he doesn’t enjoy the pedal at all, haha 😂
Miss the good old video with jack playing piano at andertons.
Where’s Lee?!?!
HR is gonna have to have a talk with Danish Pete...
Nice Job review of TC Electronic SpectraDrive Bass Preamp/Overdrive Pedal..Yes
The gentleman on the left is the daddy of Joe Dart.
Probably true
Mark Kings brother and Level 42’s guitarist.
Definitely true
Informative and entertaining! Thank you.
Nathan, just put your specs on, good sir.
hahaha all about that bass
hi
Fourth!
The Damp Espadrilles is definitely a shoegaze band
I’ve seen this comment somewhere else but I think a good idea would be to do a bass ‘sound like...’ ! :)
They did one for royal blood
Please use a P bass in demos also!
COOL GEAR,SOUNDS GREAT 👍