I would find it hilarious if she has like a secret cameo in a Mario game where she draws a Goomba, and then another Goomba, and then another... And then she's made the tallest tower of Goombas and boom Mario has to fight the tallest tower of Goombas
AND ANOTHER THING! A HUGE reason why Adeleine is such a perfect candidate to bake into the Kirby regulars is because she benefits from whatever "theme" the game is going for more than any other character. Forgotten Land's primal theming? She gets an interest in carving, in cave drawings. Robobot's futuristic themes? She uses some weird-ass Dreams like 3D painting photoshop thing. Triple Deluxe's floral theme? GUESS WHO JUST GOT INTO PRESSING FLOWERS!!! The tie in of "Ok what kind of artwork fits our game" is EFFORTLESS, making Adeleine an easy way to further embellish whatever the current Kirby game is going for! As for other ways to flesh her out further, I don't think the series needs to go that far with explaining what the heck humans and The Ancients are, if they are the same thing, I think a huge part of the fun of Kirby is that those avenues are left for interpretation. I just want... I dunno, 20% more than what we have now, ya know? Just a hint of "Yes, she's the only human, and yes that is weird, there's something unnatural about that because of these two scenes, let your imagination go crazy!" Past that I want her, and really any other side Kirby character (The series really should use them more, they're fun designs!), to just have a fun interaction or two to slowly build their personalities and stories. A Dedede saving a Waddle Dee here, a Metaknight coming to Kirby's aid there, just give a few of those moments to other characters too and I'll be pleased as punch. I don't think Ribbon is entirely necessary, she's more grounded to Ripple Star's lore while Adeleine/Ado is an easier character to just insert into any setting, but if we did want to use Ribbon, I'd make her the Mail Toad of the games. She brings messages from other Kirby characters to let the player know how they are doing. Maybe have a cute little tie in to Adeleine where she also delivers her artwork to buyers or something, that could have some adorable interconnection of all the Kirby characters sending drawings instead of letters, THAT would be adorable!
I think what’s funny about this is that Adeleine IS homaged in robobot, the games second boss Holo defense API is basically an Adeleine fight right down to using Kracko and Ice dragon and also having her infamous 1 HP, I kind of wish that much like Meta knight, Adeleine was captured by the HWC and used as some sort of Dream generator to create the API’s holograms only for Kirby to rescue her from that at the end of the fight it would be a nice cameo but also reinforcing the threat that the HWC holds much like how Meta was converted into a cyborg and Dedede was captured and Cloned, Adeleine is just seen as an object to the company rather than a person. Also with Ribbon she kind of suffers a lot from being tethered to characters, and deserves a chance to shine on her own. I think it would be cool if they gave her some sort of adventure on Ripple star mirroring one of Kirby’s it would be a neat way to have her be an actual character and not just a fairy backpack.
Making her the last human limits the scope of what can be done and plus I find it funnier that there could be a bunch of humans that refuse to interact with Kirby’s crew but ado
:Look, sir, if we go into her we have to bring dark matter and some dark history of the humans. So we can't do that because it's a kid's game. No worries her cameios will be seen or in text in the new upcoming Kirby games in the future. :U
@@supa1875so having death cults, Eldric gods, and dark lore in Kirby games is fine but having a character who could potentially add on to the already existing dark lore is bad?
@@Random_User666 :Those were mistaken by other writers. You never know if even it's confirmed just don't think of it too much. We know you all love Kirby and so do we, Thank you for your response. :U
As the person who made that Adeleine for Smash Concept a year ago I whole heartedly agree she just fits so well with the main four that it’s not even funny, I want to see sort of a sibling dynamic between her Bandee and Kirby it fits so well. I just don’t want to wait another 18 years for her return.
I think it would be funny if Adeleine didn't know she was a human. None of the characters have seen one, so they just talk about humans like they're these monsters, and Adeleine is right there with them. Plus it would really play into the power of friendship themes, since the gang would accept her no matter what, even if humans are the bad guys.
To Jordan, I headcannoned that to be the case until the end of Adventure/Nightmare In Dreamland (she wasn't in that adventure, I'm talking about the sidelines) And to RealSuperKirby, yes, but everyone just prefers to ignore that
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS! Everywhere I go online, I always use Adeleine as my mascot, even long after I distanced myself from the Kirby fanbase. All of my friends, when they think of me, they think of Adeleine. Whenever they see Adeleine, they instantly think of me. Hell, I was once in a discord server where people referred to me as Adeleine. Even my SO, who knows literally nothing about Kirby and most other video games, knows who Adeleine is, simply due to the love and passion i have for the character. Adeleine is a character that I hold near and dear to my heart, and the fact that she’s become an intrinsic part of who I am and how i’m perceived is emblematic of that. I’d absolutely LOVE to see her come back in some way, especially as a new main character, and I’m really happy to see other people who share that passion. Great Video!!
I always wanted Adeliene to have a najor return since I fell in love witj her in Star Allies, I was perplexed why she wasn't anywhere in Forgotten Land.
How you feel about Ado is basically me with Gooey. It is criminal that he's only been in 2 games before Star Allies. He's so fun. A member of the Dark Matter Forces who was influenced by Kirby's immaculate vibes to become this chaotic neutral entity that ties Kirby and Dark Matter together way before Star Allies went ham with it. Ever since I played KD3, I thought it would've been cool for Gooey to be Kirby's player 2. He'd have Kirby's copy abilities but wit his own twist like how he uses parasol in Star Allies for example. I just....I love him and his stupid googly eyes so much. I don't think he'd work on a team (specifically talking about the Return quartet) but if it was just him and Kirby like say in Forgotten Land if he was P2 istead of Bandana Dee, I feel like that could work great. Bring my special blue boy back.
My (short) pitch for a game that could bring back Adeleine: Drawcia comes back Kidnaps Adeleine in a “Snow White” style of storytelling, Drawcia’s jealous of Adeleine’s talent so she gets mad idk. And the final boss lets you play as an Adeleine who sits atop a giant painted dedede in a Kaiju fight against Drawcia
Kirby: Painted Panic! You play as painter Kirby for the whole game and unlock enemy drawings or other paintings to assist you (like star allies with befriending) and unlock adeline as a post game character
Maybe playing into snow white similarities adeline gets trapped by some cursed paintbrush and stuck in a painting world that Kirby must go to in order to save her. The style could be in different artstyles throughout the game to reference various art types (maybe even references to previous art inspired games such as epic yarn
It would be cool to see Adeline in the Forgotten Lands setting, discovering her ancestors' fate and perhaps giving more lore as to where she originated. Is her family still out there? Is humanity still kicking somewhere, giving the bird to whatever malicious force is wreaking havoc? It's dark themes like this that really make the Kirby universe interesting with its disturbing themeing covered with a bright facsimile oblivious to it.
Imagine Scribblenauts but with the Google Quick Draw AI which recognizes the thing you are drawing. Then you play as Adeline and can draw things into life in the game to solve puzzles and complete platforming stuff.
You should check out the Brawl in the Family webcomic, it has 600 comics of fun Nintendo jokes and content, and while there's more than just kirby stuff, especially later on, Adeline is a part of the Kirby crew from basically the beginning, along with Meta Knight Dedede and Waddle Dee. Plus it's just really entertaining :)
I always thought Adeleine was interesting. Between Shiver Star, her appearance in the Kirby Time books, and her presence alone, she feels like there's some kind of sadness in the background of her character, almost like there's something deeper in her character that the Kirby franchise feels too simple and cheery to delve into. Then I remember Taranza. In the course of two appearances, and a single entry in the Kirby Time books, a full arc was painted about losing someone he loves, grieving her loss, then finding happiness in the simple, kind people around him who still care for him, despite hardly knowing the guy. Adeleine is a young character, and one who probably hasn't processed what happened to the rest of her people, the last of the human ancients seemingly dead by way of Shiver Star's freezing. But there's some implication that she knows. And that's _tragic._ I've always thought that, since she arrived on Popstar to study art, she learned her ability to create life from paintings from the very painter who created the likes of Drawcia and Paintra. A way to pass on the artist's legacy to a new generation before they died. She arrives in Lollipop Land, visits the studio, learns her craft, and moves on when she finds the studio empty one day. Finding her way down to the world below somehow. It could be a way to tie Adeleine to other characters, and bring her back into lore relevance. But... that doesn't NEED to happen. She's already pretty important as is, from the fact that she's human alone.
I'm so glad to see another Adeleine enthusiast! She is by far my favorite character in the series for reasons I just can't explain. I didn't see anything in this video I even slightly disagreed with, and the editing is great! TL;DR, nice vid dude
I think an issue kirby games have is They tend to not really bring older characters back, and there's only really 3 other characters you CAN definitely expect to have a guaranteed appearance
Even then, their appearances aren’t garunteed either Meta knight didn’t show up for canvas curse, 64 or triple deluxe And dedede didn’t show up for robobot outside of the D3 clones and cutscenes at the beginning and end of the game
Adeliene could easily be the star of any number of her own games, her being so underutilized is the second biggest missed opportunity in the Kirby series, only eclipsed by star allies being underwhelming.
Yep, which is why I'm making a series where I review (almost) every Kirby game, and Adeline specifically is the main character, not Kirby, Adeline's the TRUE main character in my eyes
I'll agree with this sentiment. As enjoyable as it is to see her appear from time to time, ultimately it just makes the occasions where they just drop her much more confusing. What's Fighters 2's excuse for using Artist instead of her? Why would Forgotten Land ever implicate human ancestry without the one character perfect for tying it together?
also i hope in the future i can add in more character traits about adeleine and very strong feelings every time that where she came from gets brought up but that's going to be a long time
YESSSSS!! THE ADELEINE VIDEO!! Adeleine is a GREAT Kirby character who should definitely show up more often (in ANY capacity, though main cast line-up would be nice) - she just jives so well with the other characters and has a cool ability, while not overshadowing main title characters (essentially the equal of Bandanna Dee but painter instead of master spear-wielder) I also think that it would be super cute to have these charming interactions with my favorite Kirby character - she could be super welcoming and friendly while he is very tsundere, being aggressive and edgy (I'll leave you to guess who that is...😉) Overall, great video (and one that I have personally been looking forward to for quite a bit)!
As huge of a Meta Knight fan I am, I do think him getting booted from "the core four" would be for the best. One cool side-effect about the Shimomura trilogy's aversion to Meta Knight is that it made MK's appearances feel all the more special when he did show up, considering he was absent for over half of the games in the classic era. His role in The Forgotten Land was easily my favorite utilization of the character since Amazing Mirror; from Squeak Squad through Star Allies he just sorta felt like "the other Dedede." Gooey could still work as Kirby's Player 2 if they want both players to be able to play with copy abilities, which is something I can see HAL doing in the future. Bandana Dee works better for instances where they want asymmetrical co-op, which was definitely the smart choice for the franchise's first steps into 3D. I just think "Kirby with slightly different properties" was a very interesting idea in KDL3 that can easily be expanded on (e.g. different hovering mechanics). Basically my ideal "squad" (especially if the game has Dedede possessed/kidnapped/otherwise occupied) would be Kirby, Gooey, Bandana Waddle Dee, and Adeleine. Even if Gooey doesn't have a copy mechanic and instead functions like Star Allies/Fighters 2 I still feel this setup is more balanced than the current one because then you've got an elemental user, weapon user, and support rather than 3 weapon users. But realistically, this kind of wishful re-structuring of the main party would fall under the realm of a traditional RPG spinoff.
I think there's a ton of untapped potential with her entirely BECAUSE there are artist enemies! The fact that there is a magic paintbrush in lore entirely separate from Adeleine, and the fact that so many 'soul' enemies end up using a paint-based attack, to say nothing of Drawcia, Claycia, and the third one being shown as from other dimensions in general, creates a ton of potential just on Adeleine's existence! As long as she eventually gets some form of payoff, I like the place she's in, as she is absolutely bursting with possibilities as someone unwittingly tapping into the power of creativity unchained, and that's real cool! Just please don't make it a Curse game, they're cool thematically but I don't like playing them and what Canvas Curse did to its soundtrack is a crime.
It feels like forgotten land was practically begging for her to be used. The human like world, the Kirby 64 callbacks, and yet she didn’t get so much as a mention. Feels like a huge missed opportunity to blatantly ignore a character that not only would’ve fit flawlessly, but a character that many fans wanted to see get a bigger role
Here’s another option: What if for a sequel to Forgotten Land they could add four-player co-op (Granted some things might have to be tweaked around a bit but I think it could work) and of course along with Kirby & Bandana Dee the other playable characters could be both Adeleine and Gooey (Much like how your in need to see Ado brought back I am also in need to see my friendly demonic entity brought back).
Kirby and the forgotten land's biggest missed opportunity had to be Adeline not appearing in any form. She could have shown up in various levels, drawing the scenery and interacting with kirby, occasionally commenting on how familliar the places she's at feel, and not knowing why. Later revealing [both to us and herself] that she was present for Fecto Elfilis' initial invasion and got sent forward in time and space somehow and ended up in Dreamland. That I feel woulda been a cool twist!
You know adeleine is slowly becoming my favorite Nintendo character in general let alone the best Kirby character for how awesome, cute, relatable, inspiring and obscure she is. I really want a sub game dedicated to her origins like what hal did for magolor in return to dreamland deluxe. I wanna see how ado from dreamland 3 became the N64 version of adeleine. Also I've been thinking about a cool concept for a Kirby game with the plot of "it's a wonderful life" where Kirby's star allies and enemies could have massive spotlight and playable moments like if Kirby wasn't there or if he's kidnapped. I'm hoping we get more of her in general cuz I probably love her to pieces more than you do. I might even be one of her top 5 fans I love her that much ❤
I feel this sentiment so much. Adeleine is just such a fun and cute character, and I would love a Kirby game that not only includes her, but also has the Kirby 64 style of storytelling and vibes. 5:52 Minus points for use of the redundant "irregardless", just use "regardless".
Got it, have Adeleine be the menu guide for the gallery mode of my Kirby fan game the same way Magalor is for the game's shop, then give her and Ribbon their own version of the game's guest story. Anything else, chief?
I too want to see Adeleine come back and be an important part of the series. I would love if the next game made her a playable character and give her a side story with her and Ribbon go on a painting adventure.
Pretty sure you answered your own questions. Adeleine doesn't get used because of her unclear connections to the ancients. If adeline was in forgotten land either they'd half to have Adeleine not acknowledge anything, or they'd have to have Adeleine drop the entire lore at the beginning of the game, both bad writting choices. Kirby lore did confirm that the forgotten land's inhabitants were humans, but not in game, but through a random twitter post on a mysterious person that showed up in the kirby anniversary music stream Also Adeleine hasn't even spoken in a game as of yet.
Personally I’m just glad she came back for Star Allies. Can’t believe that actually happened. Dark Meta Knight and Marx too, but Adeleine and Ribbon were just nuts.
FINALLY another missing in action video (she has three now so thanks man) although it's nice that someone like you talked about her i myself did not know that she exist and now look at me she is one of my favorites next to meta knight taranza and the three mage sisters and king dedede. but yeah adeleine is very underused which is very sad also man don't you like adeleine A LOT (can't blame you because your right but something i noticed) i would feel like she needs to get what magolor got in return to dreamland deluxe her own mode telling the how and the why she is the last human and how did she manged to get out of earth and to planet pop star. Also this year adeleine did have a big role at least in the kirby story time videos that came out in feb 14 and stuff like the kirby guardains by kimiomega (while yes she's way different and way older) still have her being in a big role and magcial friends comics (these are all fan made versions of adeleine tho but they are still nice and amazing) also being the last human in the kirby got me hook to see how that happened and made me like adeleine even more and yes it hurts when she is not in the kirby games i like the return to dreamland characters but 64 is the definition of PEAK and amazing characters and groups there's so many things to explore about adeleine but yet so little done other than why she was not in pop star for 18 YEARS! overall she is the greatest character to exist in kirby and i can die on the hill and still say she's the greatest but this video said pretty much everything why adeleine should be used more
I had an idea to make a Kirby spin-off game to explain Adeleine's backstory... but since Nintendo is such a bully to fanmade games and I'm no gamedev, I didn't pursue it any further
So, despite the fact that she doesn't canonically appear after Kirby 64, Adeleine is actually influential in the lore of later games - in fact, Canvas Curse is _indirectly_ her fault. Adaleine is heavily implied to be the one who created Drawcia, Pantria and Vividria.
Okay everyone, please state your self-proclaimed fictional nieces/nephews/gender neutral version I don't remember/children: Closest would be Xion from Kingdom Hearts. Part of me wants her to be playable again, but the other part recognizes that'd mean focusing the story on her and my child has been through enough! Let her be done with the traumatic shit, let her be happy, and if someone doesn't get her a therapist I'll go Karen on the baddies! After her, Tempo from Archie Mega Man, and whilst playing Tears of the Kingdom I may have considered adopting Riju too, and I think for a time Adeleine was a niece as well. Of course, I don't think I'd be a very good parental figure, so I'll settle with being an aunt. Fictional parental figure(like Baliara from TotK, did I spell her name right?): *sees me tucking their kid or charge or whatever* What are you doing? Me: I adopted her. Character: Wha- Me: She's my niece now.
Bandana Waddle Dee it's simply the most CRIMINALLY OVERRATED playable character of Kirby's cast. His role could be replaced by any other DeDeDe minion and differences will be minimum. Adeleine, in other hand, has the potential of having her own spin-off series just because with the fact of her being a human in Kirby's universe. Possibilities are unlimited... But japanese companies policy are friends of tradition and enemies of innovation. What to do!
I like her too, and they should bring her back for something more than a cameo I feel like Nintendo's kinda rejecting her, because they said "No Humans", but maybe bend the rules just a bit for lore purposes, explain what happened to the humans, is Adeline from Shiver Star or the Forgotten Land Luckily, there's always fanmade stuff ❤ Edit: Perhaps Ribbon would also be involved to be honest, because the way Nintendo's going with her cameos, those two blend into the same character
Make both magolor and adeleine main stay characters Magolor fits as the ranged fighter and is a good minigame host. Adeleine could be the art gallery character. Both can be possessed for extra boss fights to give dedede a break, Both are unique enough from the rest of the cast, And both are very prominent already of their era's. ( Adeleine in the dark matter trilogy, magolor in the modern era with return to dreamland, fighter's 2 deluxe, both team kirby clash game's, )
My headcanon is that after Crystal Shards, Adeleine and Ribbon became a Lesbian couple and that’s why they’re one played in Star Allies If they come back I need the pride (I’m mostly kidding… only mostly)
I also headcannon Adeline to be a lesbian, but not getting with Ribbon as I headcannon Ribbon to be 16 compared to Adeline being 12 Nice headcannon though 😊
I would find it hilarious if she has like a secret cameo in a Mario game where she draws a Goomba, and then another Goomba, and then another... And then she's made the tallest tower of Goombas and boom Mario has to fight the tallest tower of Goombas
AND ANOTHER THING!
A HUGE reason why Adeleine is such a perfect candidate to bake into the Kirby regulars is because she benefits from whatever "theme" the game is going for more than any other character. Forgotten Land's primal theming? She gets an interest in carving, in cave drawings. Robobot's futuristic themes? She uses some weird-ass Dreams like 3D painting photoshop thing. Triple Deluxe's floral theme? GUESS WHO JUST GOT INTO PRESSING FLOWERS!!! The tie in of "Ok what kind of artwork fits our game" is EFFORTLESS, making Adeleine an easy way to further embellish whatever the current Kirby game is going for!
As for other ways to flesh her out further, I don't think the series needs to go that far with explaining what the heck humans and The Ancients are, if they are the same thing, I think a huge part of the fun of Kirby is that those avenues are left for interpretation. I just want... I dunno, 20% more than what we have now, ya know? Just a hint of "Yes, she's the only human, and yes that is weird, there's something unnatural about that because of these two scenes, let your imagination go crazy!" Past that I want her, and really any other side Kirby character (The series really should use them more, they're fun designs!), to just have a fun interaction or two to slowly build their personalities and stories. A Dedede saving a Waddle Dee here, a Metaknight coming to Kirby's aid there, just give a few of those moments to other characters too and I'll be pleased as punch.
I don't think Ribbon is entirely necessary, she's more grounded to Ripple Star's lore while Adeleine/Ado is an easier character to just insert into any setting, but if we did want to use Ribbon, I'd make her the Mail Toad of the games. She brings messages from other Kirby characters to let the player know how they are doing. Maybe have a cute little tie in to Adeleine where she also delivers her artwork to buyers or something, that could have some adorable interconnection of all the Kirby characters sending drawings instead of letters, THAT would be adorable!
I think what’s funny about this is that Adeleine IS homaged in robobot, the games second boss Holo defense API is basically an Adeleine fight right down to using Kracko and Ice dragon and also having her infamous 1 HP, I kind of wish that much like Meta knight, Adeleine was captured by the HWC and used as some sort of Dream generator to create the API’s holograms only for Kirby to rescue her from that at the end of the fight it would be a nice cameo but also reinforcing the threat that the HWC holds much like how Meta was converted into a cyborg and Dedede was captured and Cloned, Adeleine is just seen as an object to the company rather than a person.
Also with Ribbon she kind of suffers a lot from being tethered to characters, and deserves a chance to shine on her own. I think it would be cool if they gave her some sort of adventure on Ripple star mirroring one of Kirby’s it would be a neat way to have her be an actual character and not just a fairy backpack.
Making her the last human limits the scope of what can be done and plus I find it funnier that there could be a bunch of humans that refuse to interact with Kirby’s crew but ado
:Look, sir, if we go into her we have to bring dark matter and some dark history of the humans. So we can't do that because it's a kid's game.
No worries her cameios will be seen or in text in the new upcoming Kirby games in the future. :U
@@supa1875so having death cults, Eldric gods, and dark lore in Kirby games is fine but having a character who could potentially add on to the already existing dark lore is bad?
@@Random_User666 :Those were mistaken by other writers. You never know if even it's confirmed just don't think of it too much.
We know you all love Kirby and so do we, Thank you for your response. :U
As the person who made that Adeleine for Smash Concept a year ago I whole heartedly agree she just fits so well with the main four that it’s not even funny, I want to see sort of a sibling dynamic between her Bandee and Kirby it fits so well. I just don’t want to wait another 18 years for her return.
I think it would be funny if Adeleine didn't know she was a human. None of the characters have seen one, so they just talk about humans like they're these monsters, and Adeleine is right there with them. Plus it would really play into the power of friendship themes, since the gang would accept her no matter what, even if humans are the bad guys.
It was said at one point that Adeleine left her home planet to study art, so she's probably aware
To Jordan, I headcannoned that to be the case until the end of Adventure/Nightmare In Dreamland (she wasn't in that adventure, I'm talking about the sidelines)
And to RealSuperKirby, yes, but everyone just prefers to ignore that
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS!
Everywhere I go online, I always use Adeleine as my mascot, even long after I distanced myself from the Kirby fanbase. All of my friends, when they think of me, they think of Adeleine. Whenever they see Adeleine, they instantly think of me. Hell, I was once in a discord server where people referred to me as Adeleine. Even my SO, who knows literally nothing about Kirby and most other video games, knows who Adeleine is, simply due to the love and passion i have for the character.
Adeleine is a character that I hold near and dear to my heart, and the fact that she’s become an intrinsic part of who I am and how i’m perceived is emblematic of that. I’d absolutely LOVE to see her come back in some way, especially as a new main character, and I’m really happy to see other people who share that passion. Great Video!!
I always wanted Adeliene to have a najor return since I fell in love witj her in Star Allies, I was perplexed why she wasn't anywhere in Forgotten Land.
You're literally me except for Adeleine it's 5-Volt
How you feel about Ado is basically me with Gooey. It is criminal that he's only been in 2 games before Star Allies. He's so fun. A member of the Dark Matter Forces who was influenced by Kirby's immaculate vibes to become this chaotic neutral entity that ties Kirby and Dark Matter together way before Star Allies went ham with it. Ever since I played KD3, I thought it would've been cool for Gooey to be Kirby's player 2. He'd have Kirby's copy abilities but wit his own twist like how he uses parasol in Star Allies for example. I just....I love him and his stupid googly eyes so much. I don't think he'd work on a team (specifically talking about the Return quartet) but if it was just him and Kirby like say in Forgotten Land if he was P2 istead of Bandana Dee, I feel like that could work great. Bring my special blue boy back.
My (short) pitch for a game that could bring back Adeleine:
Drawcia comes back
Kidnaps Adeleine in a “Snow White” style of storytelling, Drawcia’s jealous of Adeleine’s talent so she gets mad idk.
And the final boss lets you play as an Adeleine who sits atop a giant painted dedede in a Kaiju fight against Drawcia
Kirby: Painted Panic!
You play as painter Kirby for the whole game and unlock enemy drawings or other paintings to assist you (like star allies with befriending) and unlock adeline as a post game character
Maybe playing into snow white similarities adeline gets trapped by some cursed paintbrush and stuck in a painting world that Kirby must go to in order to save her.
The style could be in different artstyles throughout the game to reference various art types (maybe even references to previous art inspired games such as epic yarn
aaand this is why we aren't the ones making the games
@@TheRealSuperKirby 💀
Definitely a spinoff idea though, I do consider spinoffs cannon but Hal doesn't... Oh well, I love this idea overall
It would be cool to see Adeline in the Forgotten Lands setting, discovering her ancestors' fate and perhaps giving more lore as to where she originated. Is her family still out there? Is humanity still kicking somewhere, giving the bird to whatever malicious force is wreaking havoc? It's dark themes like this that really make the Kirby universe interesting with its disturbing themeing covered with a bright facsimile oblivious to it.
Imagine Scribblenauts but with the Google Quick Draw AI which recognizes the thing you are drawing. Then you play as Adeline and can draw things into life in the game to solve puzzles and complete platforming stuff.
great vid! I gotta say, the "adeleine is your adoptive daughter" bit is so awesome & funni & I need that to be dukedom lore
You should check out the Brawl in the Family webcomic, it has 600 comics of fun Nintendo jokes and content, and while there's more than just kirby stuff, especially later on, Adeline is a part of the Kirby crew from basically the beginning, along with Meta Knight Dedede and Waddle Dee. Plus it's just really entertaining :)
I always thought Adeleine was interesting. Between Shiver Star, her appearance in the Kirby Time books, and her presence alone, she feels like there's some kind of sadness in the background of her character, almost like there's something deeper in her character that the Kirby franchise feels too simple and cheery to delve into.
Then I remember Taranza.
In the course of two appearances, and a single entry in the Kirby Time books, a full arc was painted about losing someone he loves, grieving her loss, then finding happiness in the simple, kind people around him who still care for him, despite hardly knowing the guy. Adeleine is a young character, and one who probably hasn't processed what happened to the rest of her people, the last of the human ancients seemingly dead by way of Shiver Star's freezing. But there's some implication that she knows. And that's _tragic._
I've always thought that, since she arrived on Popstar to study art, she learned her ability to create life from paintings from the very painter who created the likes of Drawcia and Paintra. A way to pass on the artist's legacy to a new generation before they died. She arrives in Lollipop Land, visits the studio, learns her craft, and moves on when she finds the studio empty one day. Finding her way down to the world below somehow. It could be a way to tie Adeleine to other characters, and bring her back into lore relevance.
But... that doesn't NEED to happen. She's already pretty important as is, from the fact that she's human alone.
I'm so glad to see another Adeleine enthusiast! She is by far my favorite character in the series for reasons I just can't explain. I didn't see anything in this video I even slightly disagreed with, and the editing is great! TL;DR, nice vid dude
The reason star allies is my favorite Kirby game (and probably always will be) is because I get to play as Adeleine
I loved that too, but my favorite game will forever be Amazing Mirror no matter what, but I guess Star Allies is a SECOND favorite for that reason
I think an issue kirby games have is
They tend to not really bring older characters back, and there's only really 3 other characters you CAN definitely expect to have a guaranteed appearance
Like
Take katfl
It'd be nice to have em as npcs! That'd be fun.
Even then, their appearances aren’t garunteed either
Meta knight didn’t show up for canvas curse, 64 or triple deluxe
And dedede didn’t show up for robobot outside of the D3 clones and cutscenes at the beginning and end of the game
Adeliene could easily be the star of any number of her own games, her being so underutilized is the second biggest missed opportunity in the Kirby series, only eclipsed by star allies being underwhelming.
Yep, which is why I'm making a series where I review (almost) every Kirby game, and Adeline specifically is the main character, not Kirby, Adeline's the TRUE main character in my eyes
Adeleine is one of my favorite Kirby characters. I am so glad to see the love for her in this video and comment section.
I'll agree with this sentiment. As enjoyable as it is to see her appear from time to time, ultimately it just makes the occasions where they just drop her much more confusing. What's Fighters 2's excuse for using Artist instead of her? Why would Forgotten Land ever implicate human ancestry without the one character perfect for tying it together?
also i hope in the future i can add in more character traits about adeleine and very strong feelings every time that where she came from gets brought up but that's going to be a long time
YESSSSS!! THE ADELEINE VIDEO!!
Adeleine is a GREAT Kirby character who should definitely show up more often (in ANY capacity, though main cast line-up would be nice) - she just jives so well with the other characters and has a cool ability, while not overshadowing main title characters (essentially the equal of Bandanna Dee but painter instead of master spear-wielder)
I also think that it would be super cute to have these charming interactions with my favorite Kirby character - she could be super welcoming and friendly while he is very tsundere, being aggressive and edgy (I'll leave you to guess who that is...😉)
Overall, great video (and one that I have personally been looking forward to for quite a bit)!
As huge of a Meta Knight fan I am, I do think him getting booted from "the core four" would be for the best. One cool side-effect about the Shimomura trilogy's aversion to Meta Knight is that it made MK's appearances feel all the more special when he did show up, considering he was absent for over half of the games in the classic era. His role in The Forgotten Land was easily my favorite utilization of the character since Amazing Mirror; from Squeak Squad through Star Allies he just sorta felt like "the other Dedede."
Gooey could still work as Kirby's Player 2 if they want both players to be able to play with copy abilities, which is something I can see HAL doing in the future. Bandana Dee works better for instances where they want asymmetrical co-op, which was definitely the smart choice for the franchise's first steps into 3D. I just think "Kirby with slightly different properties" was a very interesting idea in KDL3 that can easily be expanded on (e.g. different hovering mechanics).
Basically my ideal "squad" (especially if the game has Dedede possessed/kidnapped/otherwise occupied) would be Kirby, Gooey, Bandana Waddle Dee, and Adeleine. Even if Gooey doesn't have a copy mechanic and instead functions like Star Allies/Fighters 2 I still feel this setup is more balanced than the current one because then you've got an elemental user, weapon user, and support rather than 3 weapon users.
But realistically, this kind of wishful re-structuring of the main party would fall under the realm of a traditional RPG spinoff.
I think there's a ton of untapped potential with her entirely BECAUSE there are artist enemies! The fact that there is a magic paintbrush in lore entirely separate from Adeleine, and the fact that so many 'soul' enemies end up using a paint-based attack, to say nothing of Drawcia, Claycia, and the third one being shown as from other dimensions in general, creates a ton of potential just on Adeleine's existence! As long as she eventually gets some form of payoff, I like the place she's in, as she is absolutely bursting with possibilities as someone unwittingly tapping into the power of creativity unchained, and that's real cool!
Just please don't make it a Curse game, they're cool thematically but I don't like playing them and what Canvas Curse did to its soundtrack is a crime.
She has potential to expand upon the lore of Kirby, especially since she’s seemingly human, and the only one.
**coughs in Paint Roller** (:
*_*laughs in Ado*_*_ (8_
But no, Adeleine is, like, one of the best _Kirby_ characters and I will die on this hill. 💚
To be honest since fotgotten land made most abilities only single attacks. Can we get the animal buddies back?
Adeleine is my favorite character she has a lot of potential and I wish they'd use her more often. I'm still bitter she wasn't in forgotten land
It feels like forgotten land was practically begging for her to be used. The human like world, the Kirby 64 callbacks, and yet she didn’t get so much as a mention. Feels like a huge missed opportunity to blatantly ignore a character that not only would’ve fit flawlessly, but a character that many fans wanted to see get a bigger role
you are certified awesome sauce for making this video
Here’s another option: What if for a sequel to Forgotten Land they could add four-player co-op (Granted some things might have to be tweaked around a bit but I think it could work) and of course along with Kirby & Bandana Dee the other playable characters could be both Adeleine and Gooey (Much like how your in need to see Ado brought back I am also in need to see my friendly demonic entity brought back).
Kirby and the forgotten land's biggest missed opportunity had to be Adeline not appearing in any form. She could have shown up in various levels, drawing the scenery and interacting with kirby, occasionally commenting on how familliar the places she's at feel, and not knowing why. Later revealing [both to us and herself] that she was present for Fecto Elfilis' initial invasion and got sent forward in time and space somehow and ended up in Dreamland. That I feel woulda been a cool twist!
You know adeleine is slowly becoming my favorite Nintendo character in general let alone the best Kirby character for how awesome, cute, relatable, inspiring and obscure she is. I really want a sub game dedicated to her origins like what hal did for magolor in return to dreamland deluxe. I wanna see how ado from dreamland 3 became the N64 version of adeleine. Also I've been thinking about a cool concept for a Kirby game with the plot of "it's a wonderful life" where Kirby's star allies and enemies could have massive spotlight and playable moments like if Kirby wasn't there or if he's kidnapped. I'm hoping we get more of her in general cuz I probably love her to pieces more than you do. I might even be one of her top 5 fans I love her that much ❤
I feel this sentiment so much. Adeleine is just such a fun and cute character, and I would love a Kirby game that not only includes her, but also has the Kirby 64 style of storytelling and vibes.
5:52 Minus points for use of the redundant "irregardless", just use "regardless".
Tbf Magolor literally does what you’re talking about in Return to Dream Land Deluxe
I Agree She Is The OG!
Got it, have Adeleine be the menu guide for the gallery mode of my Kirby fan game the same way Magalor is for the game's shop, then give her and Ribbon their own version of the game's guest story.
Anything else, chief?
I KNOW, I NEED ADELEINE BACK
I too want to see Adeleine come back and be an important part of the series. I would love if the next game made her a playable character and give her a side story with her and Ribbon go on a painting adventure.
Pretty sure you answered your own questions. Adeleine doesn't get used because of her unclear connections to the ancients. If adeline was in forgotten land either they'd half to have Adeleine not acknowledge anything, or they'd have to have Adeleine drop the entire lore at the beginning of the game, both bad writting choices.
Kirby lore did confirm that the forgotten land's inhabitants were humans, but not in game, but through a random twitter post on a mysterious person that showed up in the kirby anniversary music stream
Also Adeleine hasn't even spoken in a game as of yet.
I dont really get why Adeleine is such a fan favorite, but it would be nice if she appeared more
Personally I’m just glad she came back for Star Allies. Can’t believe that actually happened. Dark Meta Knight and Marx too, but Adeleine and Ribbon were just nuts.
Gooey needs to come back. He can just be the group’s silly dog
Kirby in general needs the 2d Super Mario Wonder treatment and give us a big roster of playable characters
That is literally what star allies was
@@TheRealSuperKirbyyeah but star allies burn it out we need a fresh coat of paint
Two things
1) We must convince HAL to give Adeleine a role in the next game.
2) Are you an owner of an Adeleine plush?
Bring her back
FINALLY another missing in action video (she has three now so thanks man) although it's nice that someone like you talked about her i myself did not know that she exist and now look at me she is one of my favorites next to meta knight taranza and the three mage sisters and king dedede. but yeah adeleine is very underused which is very sad also man don't you like adeleine A LOT (can't blame you because your right but something i noticed) i would feel like she needs to get what magolor got in return to dreamland deluxe her own mode telling the how and the why she is the last human and how did she manged to get out of earth and to planet pop star. Also this year adeleine did have a big role at least in the kirby story time videos that came out in feb 14 and stuff like the kirby guardains by kimiomega (while yes she's way different and way older) still have her being in a big role and magcial friends comics (these are all fan made versions of adeleine tho but they are still nice and amazing) also being the last human in the kirby got me hook to see how that happened and made me like adeleine even more and yes it hurts when she is not in the kirby games i like the return to dreamland characters but 64 is the definition of PEAK and amazing characters and groups there's so many things to explore about adeleine but yet so little done other than why she was not in pop star for 18 YEARS! overall she is the greatest character to exist in kirby and i can die on the hill and still say she's the greatest but this video said pretty much everything why adeleine should be used more
Adeleine would fit quite well in a second Kirby anime alongside other characters from the franchise.
I had an idea to make a Kirby spin-off game to explain Adeleine's backstory... but since Nintendo is such a bully to fanmade games and I'm no gamedev, I didn't pursue it any further
A can't say how much I agree
We are on the same mindset.
Adeleine supporter approved🎨🎨🎨
0:15 There I am, Gary! There I am! :D
0:05
Why do friends
not pick a friend
to put Rayman in Super Smash Bros
with them
when they know that he
would want to be in it?
I agree but her name is pronounced like Ade-lane not Ade-line :B
As an Adeline fan I approve this message
I want them to bring back my polite boi, Taranza is underrated
I love her to.
I wanted and HOPE she was some of the DLC character tbh in Smash but nop.....
So, despite the fact that she doesn't canonically appear after Kirby 64, Adeleine is actually influential in the lore of later games - in fact, Canvas Curse is _indirectly_ her fault. Adaleine is heavily implied to be the one who created Drawcia, Pantria and Vividria.
Okay everyone, please state your self-proclaimed fictional nieces/nephews/gender neutral version I don't remember/children:
Closest would be Xion from Kingdom Hearts. Part of me wants her to be playable again, but the other part recognizes that'd mean focusing the story on her and my child has been through enough! Let her be done with the traumatic shit, let her be happy, and if someone doesn't get her a therapist I'll go Karen on the baddies!
After her, Tempo from Archie Mega Man, and whilst playing Tears of the Kingdom I may have considered adopting Riju too, and I think for a time Adeleine was a niece as well. Of course, I don't think I'd be a very good parental figure, so I'll settle with being an aunt.
Fictional parental figure(like Baliara from TotK, did I spell her name right?): *sees me tucking their kid or charge or whatever* What are you doing?
Me: I adopted her.
Character: Wha-
Me: She's my niece now.
True
Yes
Bandana Waddle Dee it's simply the most CRIMINALLY OVERRATED playable character of Kirby's cast. His role could be replaced by any other DeDeDe minion and differences will be minimum.
Adeleine, in other hand, has the potential of having her own spin-off series just because with the fact of her being a human in Kirby's universe. Possibilities are unlimited... But japanese companies policy are friends of tradition and enemies of innovation. What to do!
I like her too, and they should bring her back for something more than a cameo
I feel like Nintendo's kinda rejecting her, because they said "No Humans", but maybe bend the rules just a bit for lore purposes, explain what happened to the humans, is Adeline from Shiver Star or the Forgotten Land
Luckily, there's always fanmade stuff ❤
Edit: Perhaps Ribbon would also be involved to be honest, because the way Nintendo's going with her cameos, those two blend into the same character
1:54 I know it’s super unintentional, but your voice here is giving me Chris Chan vibes, and I do not jive well with that
Put Adeleine in Smash!
Make both magolor and adeleine main stay characters
Magolor fits as the ranged fighter and is a good minigame host.
Adeleine could be the art gallery character.
Both can be possessed for extra boss fights to give dedede a break,
Both are unique enough from the rest of the cast,
And both are very prominent already of their era's. ( Adeleine in the dark matter trilogy, magolor in the modern era with return to dreamland, fighter's 2 deluxe, both team kirby clash game's, )
I thought haltman and susie were also humans
If they bring back Adeleine why not bringing back Ado too? /j
My headcanon is that after Crystal Shards, Adeleine and Ribbon became a Lesbian couple and that’s why they’re one played in Star Allies
If they come back I need the pride (I’m mostly kidding… only mostly)
I also headcannon Adeline to be a lesbian, but not getting with Ribbon as I headcannon Ribbon to be 16 compared to Adeline being 12
Nice headcannon though 😊
wat
🤠💜‼️
Abathur is based