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  • Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
  • It is day 2 of Eurobike 2024, Frankfurt, and Steve Jones is on a quest to find the latest and greatest insane eBike tech! He’s also bringing you new bikes from Orbea, 3x3 gearboxes, and one of Dangerholm’s greatest eBike projects yet!
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:23 - 3x3 Rear Hub Gearbox
    02:06 - Thömus Lightrider
    02:08 - Spherik
    03:18 - Orbea's Rise In Alloy!
    04:05 - Edag
    05:14 - Goodyear Tyres
    06:00 - M1 Sporttechnik
    06:51 - TQ Motors
    07:47 - Pardus
    08:10 - Rook M-780
    08:28 - Overfly
    08:35 - Montra
    09:03 - Capriolo
    09:21 - Dynem
    10:31 - Totem
    11:00 - Scott Voltage 900 SL
    11:50 - Dangerholm's Latest Creations
    14:40 - Shimano
    16:28 - Giant Stance E+ Pro
    17:01 - Superior
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  • @embn
    @embn  12 дней назад +3

    What do you want to see more of on Day 3 of EUROBIKE 2024?

    • @kevinburke1325
      @kevinburke1325 12 дней назад +3

      More reliable motors.

    • @chrisjong8412
      @chrisjong8412 12 дней назад +2

      Showing the cheaper brands but then going to the $500 ebikes wich are now what you want in terms of reliability and quality

    • @ronlind1757
      @ronlind1757 12 дней назад +2

      Might not be happening quite yet for 2025 bikes... but would love to see some manufacturer brands using the Bafang motors. The video you redently released at the Bafang motor plant was amazing and sold me on their motors and batteries! Cheers

    • @barrysnell6792
      @barrysnell6792 12 дней назад +2

      More serviceable and reliable motors with parts availability. Till then I’ll stay with my non motor 23 stumpjumper

    • @nomad-pq4yw8iy7v
      @nomad-pq4yw8iy7v 12 дней назад +1

      Full suspension fat tired emtbs if there any that on par with bikes like the Stance E, Trubo levo and the likes if you know what I mean.

  • @benjaminbixby8459
    @benjaminbixby8459 12 дней назад +20

    One thing you learn watching these videos, there are n+1 bike companies - more than you could imagine existing.

    • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
      @SonnyDarvishzadeh 9 дней назад

      Also think of the ebike brands that aren't present at Eurobike 😅

  • @johngreason9964
    @johngreason9964 12 дней назад +14

    DJI, MGM, ZF, and Pinion are the true breakouts in tech. Bosch, Brose, Shimano(especially). I think where they could be innovative is customer retention. Loyalty. Through repair, parts, replacement guidance. Add value to your product for your current customers. Also, it will add resale value. Example. If a ZF motor has a lifetime warranty, imagine if it's transferable. How will you compete? Race results, some silly updates that everyone has, some weight reduction, noise level, RUclips hype? I think not. Not with this new competition. The only manufacturer "safe" is Bafang. Why? Loyalty.

  • @8rett
    @8rett 12 дней назад +4

    That insane rust bike was so cool hahahaha, so much character. I'd totally ride that around town.

    • @embn
      @embn  12 дней назад

      Incredible bike, @dangerholm is always so creative with his builds!

    • @Arturito2017
      @Arturito2017 12 дней назад

      @@embn is there a link to the Rook M-780

  • @nickclarkuk
    @nickclarkuk 12 дней назад +6

    Water proofing and reliability is the most important thing to me for any system . I want it to just work like my Honda CB500F :)

    • @andymoss4285
      @andymoss4285 12 дней назад +5

      Waterproofing, spare parts, repairability…. words not in the the emtb world’s lexicon

    • @GC16199
      @GC16199 10 дней назад

      I saw a video of a Stark Varg electric MX bike jumping in water, would never do that with my Bosch motor, already learned that the hard way... 😢

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 3 дня назад

      @@GC16199 How wet did your Bosch get that it affected it? I have a Bosch and am super scared of getting it wet, even rain when transporting.

  • @Magoo71
    @Magoo71 8 дней назад

    Thanks for another great Trade show Stevie! It';s simply unreal how many Bike Mfg'ers there are now. It seemed when I started racing and riding in the mid 80's, there were only a handful of builders...

  • @haemmertime
    @haemmertime 12 дней назад +4

    This might be a new Bosch motor, however they agreed to hide it for now because dealers have a lot of bikes in storage which might be even harder to sell when there is a new motor available. On the other hand they wanted to allow the brands to showcase their bikes with this motor. At least it is what they've said

    • @MikePalmer42
      @MikePalmer42 12 дней назад

      @@haemmertime it’s listed on a lot of 2025 bikes (bdu375)

  • @benny360
    @benny360 12 дней назад +9

    Time for TQ to up the power on that thing! It’s the best fitting motor just needs more grunt!

  • @stiksandstones
    @stiksandstones 12 дней назад

    A lot in here Jonesy! well done. Cheers.

    • @embn
      @embn  9 дней назад +1

      So much to see, thanks for watching!

  • @stellasuppa81
    @stellasuppa81 12 дней назад +1

    im so glad you covered all the smaller brands and especially the better value ones for certain price brackets

    • @embn
      @embn  9 дней назад +1

      Sometimes the greatest innovations come from the smaller companies 🤘

  • @sagartikhe2176
    @sagartikhe2176 12 дней назад

    This is amazing

  • @StephenRose-eu1vh
    @StephenRose-eu1vh 12 дней назад +1

    Love the intergrated rear shock on the Scott Voltage 900 SL, it looks the business!

    • @embn
      @embn  12 дней назад +1

      It does look great!

    • @zayon0170
      @zayon0170 12 дней назад +1

      it just make it more complicate to do base maintenance lol, worthless

    • @Romanonissimo
      @Romanonissimo 12 дней назад

      Folle intégration pour des mécanos qui pleurent

    • @StephenRose-eu1vh
      @StephenRose-eu1vh 12 дней назад

      @@zayon0170 surely their will be a way to maintain it otherwise it would be a pain. Still looks awesome though

  • @vaibhavbharadwaj1570
    @vaibhavbharadwaj1570 12 дней назад +1

    9:28 DYNEM is Crazy 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Mtb9r
    @Mtb9r 12 дней назад +2

    Could we look forward to Steve competing in a complete emtb race in the future????😊😊😊.

  • @neilvan3779
    @neilvan3779 10 дней назад +1

    Bosch better start giving people the option of switching off the limiter otherwise they going to loose out big time to other brands

  • @JNLR74
    @JNLR74 12 дней назад

    For me the ZF motor with the lifetime warranty is massive! ZF gearbixes for high end sports cars have been industry leading for many years, this motor in that small package will be just the beginning, they will be the next to perfect the motor / gearbox combination unit and it will also come with a lifetime warranty I reckon!!

  • @stoneenforcer
    @stoneenforcer 5 дней назад

    The pants guy again!!! Dude 😂

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 3 дня назад

      At least we don't see his stupid tattoos

  • @freestylershevi
    @freestylershevi 12 дней назад

    9:28 dynem is having something crazy stuff over there ❤

  • @Arturito2017
    @Arturito2017 12 дней назад +2

    Is there a link to the Rook M-780 emtb? Listed at 8:17

  • @sujeetnaik9422
    @sujeetnaik9422 12 дней назад

    9:29 dynem is what i m looking for they are coming up with crazy stuff.😍

  • @happysensyhappysensy670
    @happysensyhappysensy670 12 дней назад +1

    you brain is working overtime ---- you have one---wow

  • @cheniggy
    @cheniggy 12 дней назад

    Dynem seem to be the most interesting software to showcase 9:28🎉

  • @FIGHTTHECABLE
    @FIGHTTHECABLE 12 дней назад +1

    1:40 Pinion MGU does that already.

  • @Gurpritgamma
    @Gurpritgamma 12 дней назад

    @ DYNEM is Crazy. Will definetly ride the bike with so innovative features.

  • @josimarsilva3238
    @josimarsilva3238 12 дней назад

    10:20 Ananda motor. My e-bike has a m100 Ananda Motor and I love it. 😊

  • @tbolende
    @tbolende 12 дней назад +1

    I hate RUclipsrs calling out people walking through- the priority is what is happening in real life not them getting a shot for their channel

  • @davidstepro7486
    @davidstepro7486 12 дней назад +2

    I wouldn't watch this channel if Steve Jones ever leaves.

  • @kunalrade9144
    @kunalrade9144 12 дней назад

    DYNEM 🔥

  • @realmcerono
    @realmcerono 5 дней назад

    Maxon Switzerland, like the guys that developed the motors for the Mars Rovers? 😮

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 12 дней назад

    Got the new Bosch update today in the UK (1.22.7). I definitely need to get the TRP eShift derailleur now, haha. But the AI added to the range is interesting, and thank God we can now change the Purion 200 screens in the app.

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 3 дня назад

      My eco range jumped over 10 miles from like 54 to to over 64 on full charge (625wh). And the other settings proportionally. Not sure if accurate. Time will tell.

  • @GabrielRueeger
    @GabrielRueeger 12 дней назад +1

    Hey how come I‘ve never seen anything about Megamo bikes on your channel? 🤓
    I‘ve seen some around recently but there‘s very few reviews.
    Would appreciate if you could give us your opinion on them 😁

  • @YerDad632
    @YerDad632 11 дней назад

    That Bosch CX you pointed out at the end physically looks like the SX. maybe we’re gonna get a 750w peak 85nm SX??

  • @AndreaBiancucci
    @AndreaBiancucci 11 дней назад

    Any news from Bosch and wattage/cad broadcast to Garmin head unit or linkk between Bosch cloud to Garin Connect?

  • @chantalrobinson7399
    @chantalrobinson7399 12 дней назад +3

    DJI

  • @rajababooful
    @rajababooful 12 дней назад

    ❤👍

    • @embn
      @embn  9 дней назад

      👍

  • @jeanmarc_in_Hudson
    @jeanmarc_in_Hudson 12 дней назад

    Dynem bike - built in security and battery consumption calculator… 👍

  • @gottalovethetube
    @gottalovethetube 12 дней назад +1

    Do you really like the Giant Stance? Its hard to tell when the review is sponsored. Ive had it for a year and absolutely love it

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 3 дня назад +1

      It was interesting that he updated us on the bike after submersion. Most of us were wondering the longer term effects.

  • @BaldBloke
    @BaldBloke 12 дней назад +2

    if only 'molicell' made ebike battery packs (21700 cells)

    • @nicod974
      @nicod974 10 дней назад

      Molicels are designed for ecig...

    • @BaldBloke
      @BaldBloke 10 дней назад

      @@nicod974 Battery Mooch tests mate, all cells compared (ecig or not)

  • @Pete68T
    @Pete68T 4 дня назад

    I Had a New BMW M135I With ZF Auto Gearbox and it Lasted 3 Months !!!!!!!!.So Dont Go Thinking ZF is the Master of Engineering as The Fault Was Still in Production Cars Years Latter as They Did Not Know How To Fix it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Lets Waite and See How Good it is First Before Jumping on the ZF is the Best Bandwagon!

  • @krisanstey4228
    @krisanstey4228 11 дней назад

    Can anyone tell me where i can find a link to that rook ebike even shipped to canada that would be an incredible deal

  • @grantnewby3756
    @grantnewby3756 12 дней назад

    Great to see new developments and smaller lighter motors and batteries, but there also needs to be some standardisation of motor mounts or adaptors so you can mix and match just like all the other parts. And the motors need to be warranted through the bike company. They have chosen to do business with the motor supplier, not you. It is just seen as a lack of customer service.

  • @alexioflexio8818
    @alexioflexio8818 12 дней назад

    What about MGU bikes? Anytime I see a derailleur it feels like a relic of the past. MGU bikes or nothing I say. 😂

  • @user-ku8ip3yy7q
    @user-ku8ip3yy7q 12 дней назад

    Yeah it doesn't take them anytime now days to dial the bikes because of 3d printers & part machines!
    The questions is which is better then other for a atleast a week until you're advertising more! 😂

  • @user-xw2cu1dn1y
    @user-xw2cu1dn1y 11 дней назад

    ‏‪11:54‬‏What is this being?😅

  • @NotAnonymousNo80014
    @NotAnonymousNo80014 12 дней назад

    Life-time oil bath in automotive means, it's good until it's not. Life-time reached.

  • @joebot2127
    @joebot2127 12 дней назад

    Everyone trying to go lightweight. I just want more range.

  • @plainuser48596
    @plainuser48596 12 дней назад +3

    this is all nice and good, but it is about time we had some standardization in eMTB world. First of all batteries - these should be standard connector, size and voltage - it is consumable part of bike, and customers should not be stuck with useless bike that manufacturers wont sell new batteries for after 3-5 years. Same deal with motors - either standard mounting points and sizes or 10 years+ repairability guarantee. Why pay 5, 10 or 15k for bike, that won't be serviceable in 5 years and manufacturer will tell you to buy new one? That is not ok. You may say "when you buy a car you don't expect to be able to swap engine" - to that I say "I expect to be able to fix the car for pretty much as long as I want, which is not the case with eMTB

    • @franciscoteixeira2771
      @franciscoteixeira2771 7 дней назад

      EXACTly you are 850% right ,with 105n/m of force in reason. but they deal with us ,customers like cattle for slaughter .We dont have rights to them only money .Lets see if some manufactor point in that way to gain market share and brand trust ,giving real support to their products without simply asking to buy a new part.Right to repair no less than 10 years

  • @adrianrogers6976
    @adrianrogers6976 12 дней назад +4

    Only Scott could make a TQ motor bike look fat

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII 12 дней назад +1

      If you ever get the opportunity to test ride it, you’ll wish you had one after the ride. 😉

  • @akinetic177
    @akinetic177 12 дней назад

    Nobody use brose motors anymore

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 3 дня назад

      uses vs use. Specialized does. Sram does.

  • @Djangoat68
    @Djangoat68 12 дней назад

    Way too many emtb manufacturers, small volumes sold hence high prices needed to survive. This is like the beginning of the auto industry. Bankruptcies and consolidation….and quality Chinese bikes will solve this over time - can’t come too soon !

    • @vashon100
      @vashon100 3 дня назад

      I remember when full sus took off there were so many linkage versions it was ridiculous.

  • @Liqweed1337
    @Liqweed1337 12 дней назад

    bruh, the light e-mtb motor Bosch CX is already announced AAAGES ago, what is this "news"? its not new!

    • @embn
      @embn  9 дней назад

      Are you talking about the the SX motor? The motor that was showcased at Eurobike appeared to be the same size as the SX but have a CX plate on it 🤔

    • @Liqweed1337
      @Liqweed1337 9 дней назад

      @@embn it is the CX motor, but there is only one version that is new. the lightweight.
      just you all wait for the cx5.
      the cx4 is already a very okay motor

  • @robrider838
    @robrider838 12 дней назад +2

    Everything new is already out of date compared to the Euro bike components category winner: DJI. Must feel like a waste of time for Steve and crew showing everything else.

    • @embn
      @embn  12 дней назад +1

      The DJI motor is very cool but there's so much to see at Eurobike, keep watching there's bound to be interesting stuff!

    • @robrider838
      @robrider838 12 дней назад +1

      @embn yeah don't worry I will - I was only kind of kidding. Love the show! But damn the DJI bike is a game changer. 10 lbs lighter than my Rocky with the same power! I now follow DJI on Twitter. Interesting company.

  • @Rideoak
    @Rideoak 12 дней назад +4

    NO Bikes from China or India, please...

    • @user-go8ib4mb3k
      @user-go8ib4mb3k 12 дней назад

      why?

    • @Rideoak
      @Rideoak 12 дней назад

      @@user-go8ib4mb3k Garbage... There is many Trouble with the BIG Brands... what would you do if a Motor from India makes some Trouble? Send it to them?

    • @user-go8ib4mb3k
      @user-go8ib4mb3k 12 дней назад +3

      @@Rideoak The DJI is very cool

    • @Rideoak
      @Rideoak 12 дней назад +1

      @@user-go8ib4mb3k Yes, it is. Maybe a BAFANG!?

    • @user-go8ib4mb3k
      @user-go8ib4mb3k 12 дней назад +3

      @@Rideoak DJI produces its own motors, which are stable and reliable.

  • @ferp420
    @ferp420 5 дней назад

    bosch makes the worst products ive ever used before i gave up on them it seems every product was defective out of the box and never worked right on the rare occasions i end up with one of there products it wont last the first use absolute junk i would exspect there bike motors are the same quality complete garbage

  • @cameratool
    @cameratool 12 дней назад +12

    Industry needs to stop claiming >30kg monstrosities with >2,6" tires are bicycles just because they have pedals instead of pegs. They're moped/motorcycles.

    • @danielholman3436
      @danielholman3436 12 дней назад +13

      No they are not. Not even close to a motorcycle😂😂😂

    • @danielholman3436
      @danielholman3436 12 дней назад +7

      My Cannondale Moterra Carbon 1 that I race locally in the E-MTB class feels NOTHING like my Yamaha R1 & Suzuki SV650. It’s silly to think this.

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII 12 дней назад +2

      No they are not. And i only ride Bio MTB for 42 Years now.

    • @zayon0170
      @zayon0170 12 дней назад +3

      u r so lost lol

    • @Amphibax
      @Amphibax 11 дней назад +5

      Show me a motorcycle under 30kg