Here for my fix. I’m a former opioid dependent of the worst variety. Two times in prison, homeless history despite the fact that I check all of the boxes that predict American success. I find RUclips to be unbelievably addictive, and I try to mitigate by listening to information that helps me grow.
It's both an individual and collective problem. I'm a recovering addict. I don't use my smartphone. I'm Buddhist, so I train in mindfulness. Don't outsource all of it. I'm also a media psychologist. Been warning about this for 15 years. Thanks so much! All humans are addicted, we're addicted to thought.
This discussion illustrates the real reason why the alt-right took off to the extent that it did. Hatred and prejudice has been around forever. What changed is the disorientation. The longing for community and cohesiveness with an urgency that wasn't there before.
I struggle with food addiction and had bariatric surgery 6 months ago. Yet in the whole process, food addiction was never addressed by the surgeon or his team of clinicians or dieticians. Now I find myself still making bad food choices, but just eating less due to physical restraints, which has stopped my weight loss journey. Yet there seems to be the general view that food addiction doesn't exist. One just needs to exercise more willpower, which anyone who has ever struggled with stopping any harmful behavior knows is BS. I would argue food addiction is a different beast because unlike alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling or porn, one can't eliminate eating and live.
Oh well, it could be worse... we could all be watching television night and day. But... we got addicted BEFORE the internet, for those of us who remember it (TV dinners, anyone?). Even the person interviewed here admits to getting addicted, as if a university degree could safeguard her from being human (a bit holier than thou there, btw). How do you spend your time, and who gets to tell you that what you're doing is right or wrong? Quit your phone, yes, that makes sense from a cultural perspective, but our culture is pushing us at the same time to have one. There is a big difference between loneliness and solitude. If you want to be alone, that's fine and healthy too, so long as it doesn't make you feel bad, which apparently is a pathology. Oh, this is SO subjective!
I have abundant leisure time but I'm not a common case. My situation is, I teach in a university in China. Pay is only $1100/month but I can live well on that in China. I only work a few hours a day (and even have days off during the week). Problem is, I don't utilize my free time in the most effective way possible.
Thank you. Very illuminating, as always NYT. Not mentioned in cause is our need to feel in control of our environment and lack of control in physical world. And need to look away from the horrible state of that physical world. Digital world offers a much too easy escape from the sad state we live in. As always, or perhaps, the cure is gratitude.
Two wonderful women talking I appreciate the honesty and authenticity that came across from both of you. But for me, at least, there was nothing new here and nothing revelatory. I believe what we seek already exists in the texts of all the ancient wisdom traditions. We’ve just lost contact with that body of work.
Im skeptical of her claims. I suspect if she didn't have a book,'dopamine nation' to sell, then she would have a differnt position. Im willing to bet, without knowing anything else about her, she's probably profiting in other ways with these claims about behaviorial addictions, probaly spots in documentaries, ted talks, public speaking etc.. I agree that chronic social media and internet ususage is a problem. Theres tons of science to back that up. But she mentioned some other things that have zero science
In the conversation, Dr. Lemke mentioned family vacations without devices being pretty difficult, but also enriching. I imagine she has more examples in her book.
Like like like like. The author says the word like so many times, that like ,I just can’t like, you know ,like even listen, like to the interview. As well as vocal fry…..wow😮😢
Here for my fix. I’m a former opioid dependent of the worst variety. Two times in prison, homeless history despite the fact that I check all of the boxes that predict American success.
I find RUclips to be unbelievably addictive, and I try to mitigate by listening to information that helps me grow.
It's both an individual and collective problem. I'm a recovering addict. I don't use my smartphone. I'm Buddhist, so I train in mindfulness. Don't outsource all of it. I'm also a media psychologist. Been warning about this for 15 years. Thanks so much! All humans are addicted, we're addicted to thought.
Being able to travel without a device is also privilege. That could be very dangerous for a non-white person.
This discussion illustrates the real reason why the alt-right took off to the extent that it did. Hatred and prejudice has been around forever. What changed is the disorientation. The longing for community and cohesiveness with an urgency that wasn't there before.
It’s not alt anymore
I haven't carried a phone with me for over ten years. Its great.
You're my hero. Me next...
In self reflection, i recently realised that my alcoholism,
now in remission, has been replaced by shopping. I now need to stop that.
Doom scrolling takes on a whole new meaning. I wish we could turn off the internet a few times a week. Good discussion.
I struggle with food addiction and had bariatric surgery 6 months ago. Yet in the whole process, food addiction was never addressed by the surgeon or his team of clinicians or dieticians. Now I find myself still making bad food choices, but just eating less due to physical restraints, which has stopped my weight loss journey. Yet there seems to be the general view that food addiction doesn't exist. One just needs to exercise more willpower, which anyone who has ever struggled with stopping any harmful behavior knows is BS. I would argue food addiction is a different beast because unlike alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling or porn, one can't eliminate eating and live.
Oh well, it could be worse... we could all be watching television night and day. But... we got addicted BEFORE the internet, for those of us who remember it (TV dinners, anyone?). Even the person interviewed here admits to getting addicted, as if a university degree could safeguard her from being human (a bit holier than thou there, btw). How do you spend your time, and who gets to tell you that what you're doing is right or wrong? Quit your phone, yes, that makes sense from a cultural perspective, but our culture is pushing us at the same time to have one. There is a big difference between loneliness and solitude. If you want to be alone, that's fine and healthy too, so long as it doesn't make you feel bad, which apparently is a pathology. Oh, this is SO subjective!
I don't know what planet she's living on where we have abundant leisure time, but I'd like to move there.
I have abundant leisure time but I'm not a common case. My situation is, I teach in a university in China. Pay is only $1100/month but I can live well on that in China. I only work a few hours a day (and even have days off during the week). Problem is, I don't utilize my free time in the most effective way possible.
@@elzoog "the most effective way possible" hmmm. That sounds impossible
Illuminating interview!
Thank you. Very illuminating, as always NYT. Not mentioned in cause is our need to feel in control of our environment and lack of control in physical world. And need to look away from the horrible state of that physical world. Digital world offers a much too easy escape from the sad state we live in. As always, or perhaps, the cure is gratitude.
Extraordinary talk...the idea to simmulate inconvenience, love it
I think I'm severly addicted to food, air & water.
Is there any hope for me?
Two wonderful women talking I appreciate the honesty and authenticity that came across from both of you. But for me, at least, there was nothing new here and nothing revelatory. I believe what we seek already exists in the texts of all the ancient wisdom traditions. We’ve just lost contact with that body of work.
DUH DUH DUH DUH. Literally everyone already knows this.
Great contribution
Im skeptical of her claims. I suspect if she didn't have a book,'dopamine nation' to sell, then she would have a differnt position.
Im willing to bet, without knowing anything else about her, she's probably profiting in other ways with these claims about behaviorial addictions, probaly spots in documentaries, ted talks, public speaking etc..
I agree that chronic social media and internet ususage is a problem. Theres tons of science to back that up. But she mentioned some other things that have zero science
Are there any good examples of "simulate hardship"?
In the conversation, Dr. Lemke mentioned family vacations without devices being pretty difficult, but also enriching. I imagine she has more examples in her book.
Like like like like. The author says the word like so many times, that like ,I just can’t like, you know ,like even listen, like to the interview. As well as vocal fry…..wow😮😢