Although this was my favourite druid build and what I wanted to go for first. Considering my version requires 3 uniques, Greatstaff of the Crone, Tempest Roar and Temerity. I think I'll do my playthrough as a pulverize/trampleslide bear. And with smart loot I will hopefully find these items eventually for my stormwolf.
i've been messing with the werewolf for a hot minute, but it never occurred to me that a werewolf could also integrate storm into it. Very well thought out video! very interested.
Not to shit on ya, but how could you not? Like storm/werewolf goes together so does earth/bear. I immediately saw the poison/crit tornado build from turning my tornadoes into WW skills. Just wasn’t sure if it will work or not until I get to test it. I like the ultimate interaction of this build tho! Definitely worth a shot or I’ll go WW chest and drop ultimate for 2nd defense skill or pet
@@perfectcell3722 It just never occurred to me that I could use that poison passive for the storm skills with that leggo so I avoided poison all together in the paragon boards. That's all.
I just wish tornado was a better skill for multiple enemies. For bosses yeh its crazy but for dungeons the clear speed is pretty abysmal even with the legendary. I would like to see the speed quickened up or the aoe increased.
I think tornado starts to feel much better when you can basically spam it, which is what happens later on. Being able to dual wield and have much higher attack speed with lowe spirit cost and higher spirit Regen really smooths out the feeling of the skill
I’m running tornado lightning storm wolf and it’s so fun! Nice change from being a bear all game. I’m using butchers cleaver, runeworker aspect, and I’m walking around with tornados and lightning strikes following me . And butchers cleaver with shred makes any elite perma feared/slowed lol
Thank you. I’ll go with either this or your lightning storm build. How would you level a Druid? Depending on the legos you find? Or pulverise like everyone else says? Or straight with the endgame build? Interested to hear your take.
Great question! I actually have a complete leveling guide coming out tomorrow 😀Quick answer, I plan on specifically speed running the campaign to get to world tier 3 as quickly as possible. I'll be using Landslide with a zoo core (companions)
@@carthh_ Hey thx for the quick answer! Im gonna definitely watch that - I need something else than pulv. Every single beta weekend I found the shockwave aspect early but never the landslide or tornado one. Thx for putting in the work. Best druid content creater currently.
This seems fun with a lot of synergies, my real fear is the lucky hit chance. It’s very dependent on multiple low proc rate lucky hits with a low base lucky hit skill to operate the entire “engine”. If it does work though, I absolutely can see myself running this on my Druid in the future. Thanks for the build!
you can increase lucky hit just as you cna increase crit, the thing is with his build, he doenst use shredd which is an awesome multihit skill which can procc several elctric damage sources to procc more lightningstrikes and tehrefoire pretty consistently procc everything by the sheer amount of sources, that will make aoe situations pretty comfortable and in boss situations as soon as the engine starts its on.
@4:12 I have a bad news for you, Hurricane has a "per cast" procing at least what github's character builder says. They have calculated that Hurricane has Lucky Hit Chance of 21.48, per use. To add, @11:09 Yes but no. Yes your storm skills with this build are WW skills, but that shouldn't mean that your storm skills are now also shapeshifting skills cause they don't shapeshift you, they get all the bonuses from + to WW skills, but cause they don't shapeshift you to anything, so they shouldn't be considered under Shapeshifting skill sub, and/or if they do, the wording could have made better. But fantastic build once again, keep up the good work!
Correct about Hurricane, that's why we'll be focusing on Tornado for our lucky hits. Your storm skills will shapeshift you into a werewolf when you are wearing Tempest Roar.
@@carthh_ No they are not, Tempest Roar will make you to be WW all the time, so you do not shapeshift at all, you just are, so no shapeshift is happening. - Sorry I'm working almost all day every day, so can't answer so quickly.. Dishwasher by choice over here, in F'n Funland.
@@jussikankaansydan5645 I believe you are confusing Tempest Roar with Mad Wolf's Glee. Mad Wolf's Glee makes it so your true form is werewolf form meaning you are always a werewolf. Tempest makes it so your storm skills function like werewolf skills, similar to something like shred that you transform into a werewolf while using it and hold that form for a few seconds before transforming back to human.
@@carthh_ You are correct, I was thinking of MWG, but I still stand in my statement. The Tag of being WW or WB is a different tag than Shapeshifting. Let me put my Concept to this form: `"Your lightning damage is increased by 50% every hit made by your lucky hit with source that procs with lightning." But if your, lets say, Wind Shred would state that it does X storm damage to an enemy. Would it proc with Lightning damage even they are considered to be "same category" but not with same tag/wording? - So even though your storms skills are WW skills, they shouldn't be tagged as shapeshifting, cause they are two different things to beginning with. Do you get my drift?
@@carthh_ lets focus on your language; emphasising "ing" in the word of ShapeshiftING, if Tempest roar would state that being in the form, would give your storm skills shapeshift(ed) benefits it would proc, but shifting and being are two different things right? - Sorry I will answer later, being a little bit tipsy and trying to get my BBQ recipes right for my kitchen manager for a staff party thingies is "just" a little bit overwhelming at the moment.. Carry on..
I honestly cant believe there's this many people that think the helm doesn't affect all skills with the storm tag. Plus people who have played the endgame have already talked about the werewolf storm build on many different occasions. BRO, IT'S A THING!
I am not that familiar yet with druid, was aware of Landslide and Pulverize build , but that one looks pretty cool. But it seems only doable when having the unique items which one might NEVER get. ^^
@@carthh_ Another question, I saw your paragon board from d4builds is different from what you were showing. So what is more up to date? Board or your video?
What are some of the most important stats to seek out on gear? I'm slowly building my way into this build (using trampleslide and having a wonderful time but the nerfs are a little sad), and I'm curious what to look out for specifically (gear affixes, not aspects)
Excellent build. Farming two uniques for a build may turn out to be a monumental quest but the reward will be that much more worth it when you do. Everyone wants to know what the unique drop rates will be like and I want to know if they're total rng or your class influences it's outcome. For example, I farmed skele dungeons specifically for crossbows during the server slam to see how items dropped. I first farmed them with a sorcerer and got a crossbow about every other dungeon run, then farmed them with a rogue and was getting one or two a run. I'm curious if this is how the uniques will drop in D4 or will they be complete rng like D3. We'll all figure this out soon enough. Thanks for the video, that looks like a fun build to shoot for.
Lots of nice builds, thanks for the videos. Im very eager to this build, this with Tempest Roar or a Bear/Earth with the Vasily Prayer. Ill just farm for Helms and play the first I get :D
Hey still havent gor that head after 8 hour spamming nightmare dung. Have check ur build and wonder if u go with 1 hand and offhand or a 2 hand? And what is the best gear stats i will focus on all items? :)
I am using a similar build with a few different leggos but yes it works fine. A lot stronger than my bear. You just really need the unique helm, the 2 grizzly rage legos, 1 paragon board that’s bout it
hey! have u tryed this one out in higher lvls now? is it possible to go without 2 legendery head and leg? is this the best on now from 55+ ? keep it up!
i think dire wolf aspect taking away your damage reduction and adding it into move speed is going to get you slaughtered in tier 100 nightmare. people are stacking that with good fortify and still getting 2 or 3 shot, sometimes a crit even 1 shots them. I dont see how getting move speed to plow into them to stop and cast tornado isnt going to insta gib this. I guess we wont really know till it happens.
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised when they see just how tanky this build will be. There is a very large amount of damage reduction and absurdly healing and barrier generation
Do we know if the Unique helmets actually also tag skills with Transforming? The tags on Druid are so ridiculous trying to understand if that is the case or not. Cause Bear skills turned into Earth doesnt tag it as Nature magic.
The tooltips aren't all accurate unfortunately but basically anything that is a storm or earth skill falls into the nature category. I tested this in the beta test
@@carthh_ well thats good news for my Earth Bear build (guess just depends which unique helm drops first for me). Thoughts on how Perfect Storm will work? I think Sorc has as similar aspect where each CC will count separately so should see 45% dmg right?
@@carthh_ I'm pretty sure I've seen videos of some testing Aspect of Control and it treated each as a separate instance. Plus this would make it similar DMG to walking Arsenal
The main issue I see is this build actually procing Earthen Might. Tornado lucky hit at best a crit hit is 0.008 and at worst is 0.004. You might go an entire dungeon and never proc Earthen Might.
Something you need to keep in mind is that Tornado has a lower lucky hit rate because it hits many times. Each individual hit on every single mob has a chance to proc lucky hit with Tornado
@Carthh Assuming a single tornado hits 100 times, which it doesn't, and you cast 5 times each, which you dont have enough spirit to cast 5 times, and they are all double casts that's 1,000 hits. At a rate of .012 with a crit, you might get 12 triggers of the lucky hit. It is far more likely you will not trigger the Earthen Might, and you will be out of spirit. A tornado getting 10 hits is more realistic. So, with 5 tornados, 1 free with the 20% peoc, is 60 hits and a 4/1000 lucky hit chance base of procing, it is not likely to happen. I really hope it works, but the lucky hit is so bad. 8% tornado 5%Earthen Might 4 in a 1000 hits to proc. Best case: 8% x (5%+10%crit+10%cc) = 2% proc rate With a crit, you have a little over 1% proc chance. When it happens, it'll feel great for sure. It just is not going to happen consistently.
A lot of math has been done on this subject, here is a spreadsheet breaking down how a lot of the build functions: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bsGs0SdeFAd9G6kAwPMo39Kjor-g-4yLNoaWtl-lnYM/edit#gid=1932974547
@Carthh I think everything about the build looks solid except the ability to proc Earthen Might. Tornado has a horrid lucky hit chance. Druids have the worst + to lucky hit out of all classes. And even in your stats, there is nothing to buff the lucky hit. I hope I am wrong. I know from testing things with a lucky hit under 5% didn't not go off, not even once in the span of a dungeon. A good example of this is frozen orb 4% lucky hit x15% lucky hit node and the meteor enchantment 8%. 0.00368 a little lower than your 0.004.
People have already done the math (spreadsheet) and the conclusion is that you should easily be able to keep it up on multitarget and probably to some degree single target. We might need 1h and offhand to have enough uptime on EM for st, but that’s about it. 8% lucky hit for tornado is actually quite good if you understand how the skill functions.
You’ll see plenty of uniques if you play more than the average player (2 hours a day). You might get super unlucky and never find it, but chances are, you will at some point.
@@iamtheone91 hopefully lol i deff will be more than 2h aday lol. but i still dont have high hopes in good drop chances of uniques. We'll find out next week lol.
The paragon board looks very greedy - by pathing towards some extra legendary nodes with conditional damage you're skipping not only guaranteed damage, but even more than you gain from the legendary nodes. Imo it's better to condense and fill out the glyph areas, and also grab the +5% dmg magic nodes that you've skipped all over the place.
Also Constricting Tendrils can be a great source of immobilize for the build, which gives you more reason to go fully into the Storm-Lucky_hit branch in the skills.
I don't think Tornado will become a Shapeshifting skill. Werewolf skill and Shapeshifting skill are two seperate things and Tempest Roar only says Werewolf skills. So Tornado won't trigger Masochistic. I think...
Tornado lasts for roughly 4.5 seconds, depending on what you get your attack speed up to you could be summoning at least 2 a second, so you're looking at 8+ tornados at a time
@@carthh_ That's not counting the chance to summon a bonus tornado with each cast right? So theoretically in the most insane scenario ever... you could be looking at 16 tornados? XD
Doesn't BASE Storm Skill only include storm strike and wind shear because it is precisely called BASE skill? (I'm not mad, I just want to make sure you recognize the wording they use ) UPDATE: I think that I'm in the wrong here. The tag on storm strike and wind shear is BASIC and not BASE. Hope that BASE means all the skill other than ultimate like @Evgeniy said down there
Those are BASIC skills, not BASE. Currently we're 99.9999% sure BASE skills are the ones that had this tag BASEline without any additions from legendaries and whatnot.
@@EvgGaar I don't think this is what they mean. Take a look at Vasiliy's prayer (the earth version) The wording is " Your earth skills are now also werebear skills and fortify you for X". Why not say this same thing but for storm Helm version.. I think the devs put that base (probably meant basic) in order for you to only use the Basic skills for this.
This build will not be able to work as intended I am 99% sure. Also, considering it requires a specific unique 90% of players which try to go for it will not be even able to run it.
The part with skills on a skill bar. I got the Dire Wolf aspect during the first open beta. The game was literally forcing me to use every single werewolf skill that exists, except for ultimate, while completely reseting my skill bar. Also, I am not even sure that the unique helm will be making every single storm skill, but the ultimate one, into werewolf skills. The choice of words in description is weird because it says "storm base skills" and that description is closer to 2 storm basic skills than every non-ultimate storm skill. For example, in the description of the Symbiotic Aspect it clearly says "every non ultimate skill". On top of all of that, this build is squishy as hell. I am pretty sure people are neglecting defense way to much and are hardly thinking about trying to stay alive in the end game content. Everyone is pushing towards highest possible ammount of damage and this build is doing the same. Healing will not be enough and wont cut it, especially not on bosses where you will not be able to heal from kills. And, whether we liked it or not, that helm will drop for just a tiny percentage of people that will try to make this build. It is an end game build but it can be end game build only for those lucky enough to get the helm and not many will be.
This build passively gains fortify per second from the ult, and temerity has a lucky hit to heal and you heal on crit. All that healing gets converted into barrier increasing your max hp and resistance to one shots, and Fortify DR applies even to damage taken against barrier. How is this build (assuming the interactions work as described in the video) NOT tanky af?
@@Southpaw17 Neither you or me have clue what the end game bosses in this game will be like. If you think this build is tanky af idk what would you think about builds that are truly tanky af. Its possible to make a pure werewolf build which is tankier than this one and pure werewolf druids are not even considered as tanky. Again, maybe this will be enough but maybe it will not. I am not claiming anything. I am just stating what might happen. Edit : p.s. Your main def (barrier) is dependant on 2nd unique which you must get. And even gettin helm alone will be hard.
I would not assume its just for "basic" attack storm skills. My guess is prevents Greatstaff of the Crone being also a Werewolf skill (the staff turns Claw into a Storm Skill i.e. not "also a storm skill") meaning Claw is now purely a Storm skill but not a base Storm skill.
@@rflynn1974 Yes I have an early game leveling build, a mid game build and this will be my late game build. I will be putting out a leveling guide with my early game build tomorrow!
This build seems really fire, I really like how we can Chain Druid legendaries this way. Great video!
This might be the smartest D4 build I've seen any creator make. I hope it works. Thank you Daddy Carthh.
Although this was my favourite druid build and what I wanted to go for first. Considering my version requires 3 uniques, Greatstaff of the Crone, Tempest Roar and Temerity. I think I'll do my playthrough as a pulverize/trampleslide bear. And with smart loot I will hopefully find these items eventually for my stormwolf.
Great idea! I think I will do something similar to this
I hope I find these uniques before I develop carpal tunnel syndrome from playing trampleslide build.
i've been messing with the werewolf for a hot minute, but it never occurred to me that a werewolf could also integrate storm into it. Very well thought out video! very interested.
Not to shit on ya, but how could you not? Like storm/werewolf goes together so does earth/bear. I immediately saw the poison/crit tornado build from turning my tornadoes into WW skills. Just wasn’t sure if it will work or not until I get to test it. I like the ultimate interaction of this build tho! Definitely worth a shot or I’ll go WW chest and drop ultimate for 2nd defense skill or pet
@@perfectcell3722 It just never occurred to me that I could use that poison passive for the storm skills with that leggo so I avoided poison all together in the paragon boards. That's all.
Will be nice to try this (6 months from now when I've found all the items needed).
I hear that 😔
I just wish tornado was a better skill for multiple enemies.
For bosses yeh its crazy but for dungeons the clear speed is pretty abysmal even with the legendary.
I would like to see the speed quickened up or the aoe increased.
I think tornado starts to feel much better when you can basically spam it, which is what happens later on. Being able to dual wield and have much higher attack speed with lowe spirit cost and higher spirit Regen really smooths out the feeling of the skill
@@carthh_ i see, there should be some great potential with it for sure. Liking your druid coverage so far. Keep it up
I’m running tornado lightning storm wolf and it’s so fun! Nice change from being a bear all game. I’m using butchers cleaver, runeworker aspect, and I’m walking around with tornados and lightning strikes following me . And butchers cleaver with shred makes any elite perma feared/slowed lol
So many cool builds you can do, sounds sick!
Thank you. I’ll go with either this or your lightning storm build.
How would you level a Druid? Depending on the legos you find? Or pulverise like everyone else says? Or straight with the endgame build? Interested to hear your take.
Great question! I actually have a complete leveling guide coming out tomorrow 😀Quick answer, I plan on specifically speed running the campaign to get to world tier 3 as quickly as possible. I'll be using Landslide with a zoo core (companions)
@@carthh_ Hey thx for the quick answer! Im gonna definitely watch that - I need something else than pulv. Every single beta weekend I found the shockwave aspect early but never the landslide or tornado one.
Thx for putting in the work. Best druid content creater currently.
@@carthh_ Speed running the campaign then coming back when you have a mount to get all the lillith alters and stuff?
@@DRUBIN1986 Yup!
This is the one. Cant wait following and subbing u are now my guy. You gonna be apart of the streamer events for twitch drops?
Thanks a lot, I hope so!
GREAT theorycrafting. love the idea of this build. I laugh that ppl don't see there are actually many layers to this game.
This seems fun with a lot of synergies, my real fear is the lucky hit chance. It’s very dependent on multiple low proc rate lucky hits with a low base lucky hit skill to operate the entire “engine”. If it does work though, I absolutely can see myself running this on my Druid in the future. Thanks for the build!
you can increase lucky hit just as you cna increase crit, the thing is with his build, he doenst use shredd which is an awesome multihit skill which can procc several elctric damage sources to procc more lightningstrikes and tehrefoire pretty consistently procc everything by the sheer amount of sources, that will make aoe situations pretty comfortable and in boss situations as soon as the engine starts its on.
there is a potion you can make and have active all the time that has +30% lucky hit chance to.
@4:12 I have a bad news for you, Hurricane has a "per cast" procing at least what github's character builder says. They have calculated that Hurricane has Lucky Hit Chance of 21.48, per use. To add, @11:09 Yes but no. Yes your storm skills with this build are WW skills, but that shouldn't mean that your storm skills are now also shapeshifting skills cause they don't shapeshift you, they get all the bonuses from + to WW skills, but cause they don't shapeshift you to anything, so they shouldn't be considered under Shapeshifting skill sub, and/or if they do, the wording could have made better. But fantastic build once again, keep up the good work!
Correct about Hurricane, that's why we'll be focusing on Tornado for our lucky hits. Your storm skills will shapeshift you into a werewolf when you are wearing Tempest Roar.
@@carthh_ No they are not, Tempest Roar will make you to be WW all the time, so you do not shapeshift at all, you just are, so no shapeshift is happening. - Sorry I'm working almost all day every day, so can't answer so quickly.. Dishwasher by choice over here, in F'n Funland.
@@jussikankaansydan5645 I believe you are confusing Tempest Roar with Mad Wolf's Glee. Mad Wolf's Glee makes it so your true form is werewolf form meaning you are always a werewolf. Tempest makes it so your storm skills function like werewolf skills, similar to something like shred that you transform into a werewolf while using it and hold that form for a few seconds before transforming back to human.
@@carthh_ You are correct, I was thinking of MWG, but I still stand in my statement. The Tag of being WW or WB is a different tag than Shapeshifting. Let me put my Concept to this form: `"Your lightning damage is increased by 50% every hit made by your lucky hit with source that procs with lightning." But if your, lets say, Wind Shred would state that it does X storm damage to an enemy. Would it proc with Lightning damage even they are considered to be "same category" but not with same tag/wording? - So even though your storms skills are WW skills, they shouldn't be tagged as shapeshifting, cause they are two different things to beginning with. Do you get my drift?
@@carthh_ lets focus on your language; emphasising "ing" in the word of ShapeshiftING, if Tempest roar would state that being in the form, would give your storm skills shapeshift(ed) benefits it would proc, but shifting and being are two different things right? - Sorry I will answer later, being a little bit tipsy and trying to get my BBQ recipes right for my kitchen manager for a staff party thingies is "just" a little bit overwhelming at the moment.. Carry on..
I honestly cant believe there's this many people that think the helm doesn't affect all skills with the storm tag. Plus people who have played the endgame have already talked about the werewolf storm build on many different occasions. BRO, IT'S A THING!
but it says base storm skills
I am not that familiar yet with druid, was aware of Landslide and Pulverize build , but that one looks pretty cool. But it seems only doable when having the unique items which one might NEVER get. ^^
Yup it's definitely an endgame build you will have to farm for first
@@carthh_ Another question, I saw your paragon board from d4builds is different from what you were showing. So what is more up to date? Board or your video?
@@drshoe7803 The link to the build will update with any changes I make so follow that one!
The long awaited Tornado build looking good ….. thanks
What are some of the most important stats to seek out on gear? I'm slowly building my way into this build (using trampleslide and having a wonderful time but the nerfs are a little sad), and I'm curious what to look out for specifically (gear affixes, not aspects)
Excellent build. Farming two uniques for a build may turn out to be a monumental quest but the reward will be that much more worth it when you do.
Everyone wants to know what the unique drop rates will be like and I want to know if they're total rng or your class influences it's outcome. For example, I farmed skele dungeons specifically for crossbows during the server slam to see how items dropped. I first farmed them with a sorcerer and got a crossbow about every other dungeon run, then farmed them with a rogue and was getting one or two a run.
I'm curious if this is how the uniques will drop in D4 or will they be complete rng like D3.
We'll all figure this out soon enough.
Thanks for the video, that looks like a fun build to shoot for.
Lots of nice builds, thanks for the videos. Im very eager to this build, this with Tempest Roar or a Bear/Earth with the Vasily Prayer. Ill just farm for Helms and play the first I get :D
Same! Definitely want to target farm helmets there's so many cool choices
Hey still havent gor that head after 8 hour spamming nightmare dung. Have check ur build and wonder if u go with 1 hand and offhand or a 2 hand? And what is the best gear stats i will focus on all items? :)
I like 1 hand and off hand, I get lots of damage reduction and critical strike damage
Im rolling druid can't wait to try this
Have you had a chance to test this yet ? If so how does it play any changes from the video to the build ? hope you're enjoying d4.
Yup I finally got it set up and will be making a new video soon
Yes!!!
@@carthh_ legend
I am using a similar build with a few different leggos but yes it works fine. A lot stronger than my bear. You just really need the unique helm, the 2 grizzly rage legos, 1 paragon board that’s bout it
@@paoweeo I have all that my bear build is lvl 82 but wanted to change it up little try something new
Have you finished the paragon board? Can't wait to try this
The build in the description should update as I adjust things, so keep an eye on that!
hey! have u tryed this one out in higher lvls now? is it possible to go without 2 legendery head and leg? is this the best on now from 55+ ? keep it up!
It is not possible without the legendary head
@@carthh_ ah ty for answer, need to farm that one then, never get it.. best spec before? 56+ now and after patch nerf? :)
i think dire wolf aspect taking away your damage reduction and adding it into move speed is going to get you slaughtered in tier 100 nightmare. people are stacking that with good fortify and still getting 2 or 3 shot, sometimes a crit even 1 shots them. I dont see how getting move speed to plow into them to stop and cast tornado isnt going to insta gib this. I guess we wont really know till it happens.
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised when they see just how tanky this build will be. There is a very large amount of damage reduction and absurdly healing and barrier generation
Did you think about getting this +2 skill chest, changing your normal form to Werewolf?
I'm focusing more on defense, I think we have plenty of offense
@@carthh_ Ye, you're right ; btw, what stats should we focus on gear? Thanks
Where do u think is the best farmingway to get that head?
Nightmare dungeons
Do we know if the Unique helmets actually also tag skills with Transforming? The tags on Druid are so ridiculous trying to understand if that is the case or not. Cause Bear skills turned into Earth doesnt tag it as Nature magic.
The tooltips aren't all accurate unfortunately but basically anything that is a storm or earth skill falls into the nature category. I tested this in the beta test
@@carthh_ well thats good news for my Earth Bear build (guess just depends which unique helm drops first for me). Thoughts on how Perfect Storm will work? I think Sorc has as similar aspect where each CC will count separately so should see 45% dmg right?
@@apollo5756 That's a great question actually I'm not sure but that would be pretty crazy if that's how it worked
@@carthh_ I'm pretty sure I've seen videos of some testing Aspect of Control and it treated each as a separate instance. Plus this would make it similar DMG to walking Arsenal
@@apollo5756 That sounds super strong, I'd love to test it and find out sounds great to me
did tempest roar end up dropping for you on WT3?
You can get tempest roar on wt3 yeah
I havent played druid in the betas/server slam - is Tornado a hit or dot? Both would fit the skill but this might instantly break your build
Tornado is a hit
The main issue I see is this build actually procing Earthen Might. Tornado lucky hit at best a crit hit is 0.008 and at worst is 0.004. You might go an entire dungeon and never proc Earthen Might.
Something you need to keep in mind is that Tornado has a lower lucky hit rate because it hits many times. Each individual hit on every single mob has a chance to proc lucky hit with Tornado
@Carthh Assuming a single tornado hits 100 times, which it doesn't, and you cast 5 times each, which you dont have enough spirit to cast 5 times, and they are all double casts that's 1,000 hits. At a rate of .012 with a crit, you might get 12 triggers of the lucky hit. It is far more likely you will not trigger the Earthen Might, and you will be out of spirit.
A tornado getting 10 hits is more realistic. So, with 5 tornados, 1 free with the 20% peoc, is 60 hits and a 4/1000 lucky hit chance base of procing, it is not likely to happen.
I really hope it works, but the lucky hit is so bad.
8% tornado 5%Earthen Might
4 in a 1000 hits to proc.
Best case:
8% x (5%+10%crit+10%cc)
= 2% proc rate
With a crit, you have a little over 1% proc chance.
When it happens, it'll feel great for sure. It just is not going to happen consistently.
A lot of math has been done on this subject, here is a spreadsheet breaking down how a lot of the build functions: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bsGs0SdeFAd9G6kAwPMo39Kjor-g-4yLNoaWtl-lnYM/edit#gid=1932974547
@Carthh I think everything about the build looks solid except the ability to proc Earthen Might. Tornado has a horrid lucky hit chance. Druids have the worst + to lucky hit out of all classes. And even in your stats, there is nothing to buff the lucky hit.
I hope I am wrong. I know from testing things with a lucky hit under 5% didn't not go off, not even once in the span of a dungeon. A good example of this is frozen orb 4% lucky hit x15% lucky hit node and the meteor enchantment 8%. 0.00368 a little lower than your 0.004.
People have already done the math (spreadsheet) and the conclusion is that you should easily be able to keep it up on multitarget and probably to some degree single target. We might need 1h and offhand to have enough uptime on EM for st, but that’s about it.
8% lucky hit for tornado is actually quite good if you understand how the skill functions.
crazycool, didnt they say youll find like one unique every few months? because theyre extrodinarily rare?
I think they said they might be for the average player, I plan on playing quite a bit
@@carthh_ yea but if its true and you only see the uniques once a month thats insane lmao. gl on loot, I bet youll get that streamers luck XD
@@joejojo5966 streamer's luck 😎
You’ll see plenty of uniques if you play more than the average player (2 hours a day). You might get super unlucky and never find it, but chances are, you will at some point.
@@iamtheone91 hopefully lol i deff will be more than 2h aday lol. but i still dont have high hopes in good drop chances of uniques. We'll find out next week lol.
The paragon board looks very greedy - by pathing towards some extra legendary nodes with conditional damage you're skipping not only guaranteed damage, but even more than you gain from the legendary nodes. Imo it's better to condense and fill out the glyph areas, and also grab the +5% dmg magic nodes that you've skipped all over the place.
Also Constricting Tendrils can be a great source of immobilize for the build, which gives you more reason to go fully into the Storm-Lucky_hit branch in the skills.
I would recommend looking into the damage bucket formula, damage is calculated a little differently in this game that it would seem at first glance
No Greatstaff of the Crone?
I don't think Tornado will become a Shapeshifting skill. Werewolf skill and Shapeshifting skill are two seperate things and Tempest Roar only says Werewolf skills. So Tornado won't trigger Masochistic. I think...
Shapeshifting is a category that contains werewolf and werebear, similar to how Nature is both storm and earth
@@carthh_ Ok, good to know..Thanks :)
given a perfect situation how many Tornados could you have up at the same time ?
Tornado lasts for roughly 4.5 seconds, depending on what you get your attack speed up to you could be summoning at least 2 a second, so you're looking at 8+ tornados at a time
@@carthh_ That's not counting the chance to summon a bonus tornado with each cast right? So theoretically in the most insane scenario ever... you could be looking at 16 tornados? XD
Problem is you run out of willpower after 2 casts without proc
We get 5 paragon boards ? I had it in my mind it was 4 ?
You can have as many paragon boards as you want as long as they are all connected. There are 8 to choose from
Is Tempest Roar a T4 only drop?
T3 and T4
Wow, Elias is making a D4 guide.
You think a storm rabies druid is possible to build?
Definitely possible not sure how strong though
@@carthh_ nice thx a lot im still low lvl but i definetly want to go for Rabies as my main skill like in D2 but i wanna try some odd build lol
Doesn't BASE Storm Skill only include storm strike and wind shear because it is precisely called BASE skill? (I'm not mad, I just want to make sure you recognize the wording they use )
UPDATE: I think that I'm in the wrong here. The tag on storm strike and wind shear is BASIC and not BASE. Hope that BASE means all the skill other than ultimate like @Evgeniy said down there
Those are BASIC skills, not BASE. Currently we're 99.9999% sure BASE skills are the ones that had this tag BASEline without any additions from legendaries and whatnot.
@@EvgGaar yeah I agree I think it means all base skills but ultimate
Base storm skill refers to any storm skill on the skill tree before conversions. The first set of skills are known as basic skills
@@carthh_ by the way great build gonna try something like this 100%
@@EvgGaar I don't think this is what they mean. Take a look at Vasiliy's prayer (the earth version) The wording is " Your earth skills are now also werebear skills and fortify you for X". Why not say this same thing but for storm Helm version.. I think the devs put that base (probably meant basic) in order for you to only use the Basic skills for this.
This build will not be able to work as intended I am 99% sure. Also, considering it requires a specific unique 90% of players which try to go for it will not be even able to run it.
Which part do you think will not work as intended? It is also marked as endgame build because it requires uniques to activate
The part with skills on a skill bar. I got the Dire Wolf aspect during the first open beta. The game was literally forcing me to use every single werewolf skill that exists, except for ultimate, while completely reseting my skill bar.
Also, I am not even sure that the unique helm will be making every single storm skill, but the ultimate one, into werewolf skills. The choice of words in description is weird because it says "storm base skills" and that description is closer to 2 storm basic skills than every non-ultimate storm skill. For example, in the description of the Symbiotic Aspect it clearly says "every non ultimate skill".
On top of all of that, this build is squishy as hell. I am pretty sure people are neglecting defense way to much and are hardly thinking about trying to stay alive in the end game content. Everyone is pushing towards highest possible ammount of damage and this build is doing the same. Healing will not be enough and wont cut it, especially not on bosses where you will not be able to heal from kills.
And, whether we liked it or not, that helm will drop for just a tiny percentage of people that will try to make this build. It is an end game build but it can be end game build only for those lucky enough to get the helm and not many will be.
This build passively gains fortify per second from the ult, and temerity has a lucky hit to heal and you heal on crit. All that healing gets converted into barrier increasing your max hp and resistance to one shots, and Fortify DR applies even to damage taken against barrier.
How is this build (assuming the interactions work as described in the video) NOT tanky af?
@@Southpaw17 Neither you or me have clue what the end game bosses in this game will be like. If you think this build is tanky af idk what would you think about builds that are truly tanky af. Its possible to make a pure werewolf build which is tankier than this one and pure werewolf druids are not even considered as tanky. Again, maybe this will be enough but maybe it will not. I am not claiming anything. I am just stating what might happen.
Edit : p.s. Your main def (barrier) is dependant on 2nd unique which you must get. And even gettin helm alone will be hard.
I thought you could only wear one unique??
You can wear as many uniques as you want as long as it's not the same one
Just to warn you, the unique helm says base storm skills. That only applies to the generator skills I think. So not tornado or lightning storm.
People that got to play the game more have confirmed it works for all storm skills
I would not assume its just for "basic" attack storm skills. My guess is prevents Greatstaff of the Crone being also a Werewolf skill (the staff turns Claw into a Storm Skill i.e. not "also a storm skill") meaning Claw is now purely a Storm skill but not a base Storm skill.
Too early to tell what ENDGAME build will be best, sacred items are bound to impact builds in a major way.
I am not sure that the helmet will give a tornado wolf skill
It will. It has already been confirmed by closed beta testers, that is the whole point of the helmet.
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Dude you can't target farm, the devs said you will get 2-3 at most uniques over an entire season.
That's a lie, I have 5 already since launch
The problem I see is you're relying on a unique to make it work?
Correct, this is an endgame focused build that you will need to farm the items for before you can start it.
@Carthh you have a early game build ?
@@rflynn1974 Yes I have an early game leveling build, a mid game build and this will be my late game build. I will be putting out a leveling guide with my early game build tomorrow!
That is the build. Some builds require uniques, some don’t. If you don’t have the unique, there are other builds to play.