Being almost deaf I can only appreciate the sound, both are great. To my ears the Guarneri is slightly more audible but doesen't mean it's better. I made an experiment comparing both tracks in graphic waves, it's interesting that the duration is different and also peaks of high and low are quite different. This just to say that the two instruments are performing different. At first sight I love both the violins, congratulations to the builder stunning instruments
Oh your strad is a masterpiece! People are mainly drawn to the tone and feel, but good performer now the responsiveness, projection, and transparency of that strad is amazing. It has every soloist's condition that every performer wants. well done!
Thanks! I am obviously aware that when it comes to recordings it is difficult (probably impossible) to draw conclusions about the sound. Then each violin has its own character and everyone will have their preferences, this is inevitable, but listening to them in real life and played by different players, I am really satisfied with the sound of both.🙂 Thank you for taking the time to listen to this video and offer me your opinion, I really appreciate it.
I've always preferred the sound of a Guarneri, even if they're copies. This video doesn't change anything in my mind about that. I'd like that Guarneri model, but I fear I couldn't even afford a decent copy of a Guarneri, which this one definitely seems to be :-( . Lovely tone, warm and full of oomph. You, sir, are a true craftsman.
Is it not... many good players are dead... Paganini, Vivaldi, Strauß...etc... but the Sound of the very good Violins are still here... so for me the Violins are more important than any Player...
This is how they both sound...(just use earphones or headphones) Stradivarius: Silvery, Precise, sweeter Guarneri: Dark, velvety, richer I prefer Strad because its more Cut through, refined, and balanced! 😍😍 For Guarneri?... Too muddy for me but i still love richness of the Guarneri though☺️
These are different instruments. And different compositions will sound better on one of them. Although if I had to choose one, I would choose Granieri It has more warmth, drama, overtones.
Yep, every violinist should have multiple violins with different characteristics to be able to choose depending on the music he has to play. Well, I'm a violin maker, I couldn't help but be happy if everyone could afford them...😇 Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you hear a difference, from the other comments it seems that not everyone does, but I can assure you that when listened live it is quite evident
@@DavideSora , Unfortunately, some people cannot distinguish a drum from an electric guitar and it is impossible to explain the difference to them. To my ears, the difference between violins is huge, well, I just love music, and I have normal sound equipment. =) Thank you for such an interesting comparison, wonderful violins and wonderful performance.
Yes, the strings Vision Solo have a bit less tension, which is why I like to use them. In my opinion they let me understand the violin's behavior better at the first setting-up. I also used the other strings, among which the PI are my favorite, especially for the G string which is very rich and deep. I use the Vision Solo as a reference benchmark for my violins, constantly changing string type or brand would not help me understand the violin response, but I think the final choice is up to the player, there are a lot of high-quality strings available nowadays
@@DavideSora David, thank you..I ordered a set which will be delivered today which I'll string up my second build. And thank you for all of your videos. I use them constantly while building.
Both are fabulous! The strad high notes sound like a human vocalist! However, I wonder abou the "reverb" in the recordings. Was that added artificially, or was it caused by the acoustics of the room? Respect ot you and your players!
Thank you! I added a bit of reverb to compensate for the dryness of my small workshop room. Unfortunately, RUclips's audio compression does not allow you to hear the differences well, which only live listening would allow you to truly appreciate. But despite this, I believe that with careful listening with headphones, something useful can emerge
Neither sounded like the copies I heard or both sounded similar, so I would say the maker has a bigger impact on sound and maybe the sound is of your own rather than Stradivari or Guarneri. At the lower note run near the end the Guarneri sounded fuller though and both are about the same on high or the edge is on Guarneri.
Thanks for your comment and, well, I take that as a compliment. In fact, I am convinced that every luthier should look for his own sound, rather than trying to copy, which I think is a bit silly as I am convinced that it is not possible to reproduce the sound of a violin that is 200 or 300 years old in one that has just been born. In fact, even the best copies I've heard don't even come close to the originals. In reality, although similar, these two violins heard in real life are different, as all violins are from each other, but unfortunately, RUclips's audio compression is not ideal for showing the subtle nuances of a violin's sound that are so significant for the ear and sensations of a violinist.
@@DavideSora I would think you should try on an original model or one that represents you the best. It would be a hard sell for sure, but violins are hard sell in today's environment anyway regardless.
@@DavideSora I should add that in this test both violins aren't play hard enough. I would like to hear the dynamic range and how it reacts when overdriven, it is too even and polite. Next time, upload video that is 1440p or higher, then youtube will be forced to use better video codec.
@@wckoek You're right, the player was too gentle and delicate to explore all the possibilities of these violins, but I don't feel comfortable telling the musicians how to play, everyone has their own style and I like to respect it. Of course, I also had other musicians try these violins (she is not the owner), but alas not everyone like to be shared on a public video.🤷♂
@@wckoek I don't think that if I had to redesign an original model I would make it very different from the ones I use, and in any case, the outline is only a fairly marginal part in determining the sound (I use the 3 main forms of Stradivari, G, PG, and P, we have the original ones here at the museum). But for the most crucial aspects of the construction, I follow my personal principles, and the Cremonese construction method (inside form) that I use allows a lot of freedom of interpretation, even using the same form. So no need to design a personal model. For the Del Gesù model I use only one form, del Gesù himself used a maximum of two for his entire career and managed to make violins that were very different from each other. In any case I have made just a few violins on del Gesù form, my personal preference goes to Stradivari forms. Selling violins is difficult for young luthiers, fortunately (or unfortunately...) I have been working for so many years that I have no sales problems at all, to the point that at the moment I no longer take further new orders, my waiting list has become too long. But maybe it would be better to have more sales problems, but be younger.😅
They are very similar. They are made in the same shop and the makers had almost the same knowledge. To my ears, the Strad sounds more balanced and a tad rounder while the Guarneri sounds more articulated and a tad edgier.
A Neumann tube condenser would be great, but I'd prefer a pair of Schoeps. Unfortunately, they're both out of my budget. I'm waiting for someone to offer them to me for free, possibly with the appropriate preamps, but I think they'd make the noise of the cars passing by my workshop even worse than you hear in the video.😄
@@DavideSora I see - as in hear - what you mean. Back around the mid 1990s when I can finally afford a better sounding hi-fi set up, I've noticed that a number of classical records I've "inherited" from my uncle that were recorded during the 1970s had distant traffic noise which was inaudible on my previous "cheaper" set-up.
due gioielli, complimenti maestro Sora,. Che ne dici di costruirne uno adesso facendo metà Strad e metà Dell Gésu?? in realtà due strumenti, uno con basso Stad e cantino Dell Gésu, e l'altro con basso Dell Gésu e cantino Strad. Sarebbe un mix interessante e unico al mondo...
Probabilmente avere un violino che riunisce insieme le migliori qualità di uno Strad e di un Del Gesù sarebbe il sogno di tutti i violinisti, ma purtroppo non posso fare magie, riesco solo a fare dei violini Davide Sora😅
Come ascoltato nella realtà due originali, lo Strad più brillante e cristallino, il Guarnieri più personalità e timbro ma.... si tratta di un video YT... complimenti maestro la seguo con ammirazione!
Love Guarneri sound more powerful, stereotypical than strads, but Guarneri model usually bigger than strads, play technique a little bit difficult for me.
Sorry to correct you, but Guarneris are often smaller than Strads, they are generally wider between the Cs, but have a shorter body length and especially a shorter vibrating string than Strads. Of course, you can't generalize, it depends on the models and the period you consider for both luthiers
On my view the Guarneri Violin has a much more extroverted sound. It sounds like an A like when the tenor singer sing a very high sounds and he smiles and open the mouth the Stradivarius More on my point of you intimate delicate maybe mature?
Whilst I wouldn't say no to a Stradivari, I'd much prefer a Guarneri del Gesu'. I love the sound they make and everything about them. I can hear the difference and they're at the top of my list of desired, but never to own, instruments !! I guess I'll have to make do with my Eduard Reichert 1913 violin which has a lovely sound but nothing compared to a Guarneri. This is the just about the only time I wish I was a multi-millionaire !! I'd have a Guarneri within a month. Sadly, never to be....
E String the Strad will always win but A D G the Guarneri beats any other violins on this planet.. It just sounds so much more well rounded, mellow and exact. This being said, the E string has always been a fetish for Violinists so I understand why the Strads are so much more known, after all the E string is what makes a violin not a viola. But if I had the money or the choice, I would ALWAYS choose a Guarneri Del Gesù. Tho I also prefer third/fourth position A over open E any day so yeah haha
If you want a more powerful E, you can install higher tension E string like Evah Pirazzi. For me, I prefer to tone down the E string a bit so that it will not be so "piercing" to the ears. I prefer Zyex E string. But there is a new brand, Alice, which is also good.
ive always found guaneri's sweeter- i mean come on, they both sound amazing but if i had to own one (baring resale) i would pick the less revered. great playing ..not so great editing, when comparing anything you should really try to cut down on the time lapse in between
Thanks for your comment. Well, Guarneri is certainly no less revered than Stradivari, I'd say that they are on par in terms of popularity, and sales prices at auctions (for the originals, of course) prove it🙂 You're right about the edit, but I didn't want to make a real scientific comparison, which would make sense only by listening to violins played in real life, not on RUclips. The title of the video was mostly ironic/provocative, actually it's just about two of my violins.
It sound as though you are struggling to produce the true sound on Guarneri compared to Strad; it seems to sing more freely. I remember reading somewhere that Guarneri responds better to more aggressive style of playing
🤔Stradivari is more beauty than Guarneri, but Guarneri is more clean than Stradivari; so I prefer Guarneri. The Stradivari notes finals in high vibrate, so they make dirty the next note. Maybe for that Paganini use Guarneri, this man is so faster ⚡ => no time for dirty sound between notes.
Sarebbe come dire se vuoi più bene alla mamma o al papà o se va meglio una Ferrari o una Lamborghini.😂 Io li trovo due grandi violini con sonorità stupende che ogni violinista desidererebbe. Per dare una valutazione più precisa bisognerebbe sentirli dal vivo o con un impianto audio adeguato ma la mia impressione è di sentire un po' più brillante lo Stradivari e un po' più rotondo il Guarneri. Però dico una cosa, questi sono violini moderni che si basano su strumenti settecenteschi ma quasi tutti modificati per poter essere suonati in un contesto "moderno" e, quando si dice che questa è una copia di un Guarneri o di uno Stradivari è solo una mezza verità, perché ormai anche negli "originali" c'è rimasto ben poco di originale se non l'estetica. Io parlerei piuttosto di una interpretazione moderna di uno Stradivari o di qualsiasi altro liutaio sei- settecentesco. Spero che quei pochi originai mai modificati pervenutici, non vengano più manomessi perché li ritengo -Patrimonio dell'Umanità- che potranno servire anche per fare copie fedeli per quei musicisti che suonano musica barocca con orchestre barocche.
Grazie! Più che copiare io cerco di trarre ispirazione dai violini antichi cremonesi, ma più che di interpretazione moderna dello stile di qualcun'altro mi piace pensare che si tratti di espressione dello stile personale del liutaio. Io ho copiato le forme interne su cui vengono costruiti i violini (cardine del metodo costruttivo cremonese) ma poi le utilizzo abbastanza liberamente, proprio come facevano al tempo di Stradivari, dove nessun liutaio si sarebbe mai sognato di copiare il lavoro altrui. Sono perfettamente d'accordo sulla conservazione degli strumenti non troppo alterati (purtroppo quelli in condizioni veramente originali sono veramente pochi), sono di enorme interesse per chi vuol fare buoni violini, non ci si può esimere dallo studiarli.
Сделать точную копию любой скрипки невозможно и поэтому не о каком творчестве речь конечно же не идёт. Ремесленник всегда будет просто Ремесленником .И это совсем не плохо но вот только творчеством здесь и не пахнет. Многие плотники не хуже вас работают.
They both have very nice sound, maestro, my compliments!!😊👏👏👏, but to my opinion the Strad has a warmer rational sound, that’s to say has the same character in every sound, while the DG has a very free, brilliant sound, but seems not as easy to play as the Strad, perhaps listening live is another thing… congrats👏👏👏🌹🌹 🌹🌟🌟🌟😊😊
Finally someone who appreciates the Strad!😅 I think the Strad's E and A string have an unsurpassed complex and crystalline timbre, if I were to play Mozart I would prefer that.
beauty is on the ear of the beholder but to me ill love to hear Vivaldi spring on a strad and winter on the guar! but as a violin colector my self I noticed that all great violins have g power are softer on e and Vice versa but when it’s a great violin hi or low it will sound greater than an average violin none the less when it comes to what everyone can really afford the sound it will always be on the fracing and musicality of the player and a great player can give chills with any fiddle how ever once you play something at strad and guar level its sad to go back period! my dream is to own one or more violin from each maker and play them all but looks like this strads are way out of my budget for now lol 😂 but come on who would say no to either or if it was a gift
Переслушал несколько раз, это не Скрипки великих итальянцев, это очень хорошие копии или хорошие программы звукозаписи. Проблемы конечно есть со звуком. Но мне нравится ваши успехи со звуком. Немножко хотелось бы, чтобы появились на разных струнахр.разные тембральные краски, тогда диапазон возможностей расширится до бесконечности.😅
Если вы основываете свое суждение на (совершенно непрофессиональной) записи, вы полностью сбились с пути, хотя я полагаю, вы прекрасно это осознаете🙂 Мои скрипки не копии, но все равно спасибо, что назвали их "прекрасными копиями".
Different violins for playing different music in different places by different musicians. No use playing same music in same room. The room is too small for Guarnery, and violinist has not enough temper. IMHO
These both are gorgeous in looks and sound, guaneri tends to be less violin sounding and more human sounding, but I think better than these both would be a Davide Sora violin 🙂
It's the soul which makes listening to good music, satisfying! The irony of the situation is that the Chinese (after much discipline) have that enviable "soul"! If the best of Western culture was music, specially stringed instruments, the Chinese talents have come to the rescue! Thanks for the video! Love and peace to all!
If you were a fair person you would have said that the recording sounds like an imitation, because you have never heard the violins in real life. If I had paid for a professional recording, perhaps perfecting it in post-production as they do for all concert videos, you probably would have liked them. But if you don't like them you can say so freely, the violinists who play them like them a lot, and that's enough for me. I always leave my customers free to choose whether or not to buy my violins at the time of delivery if they don't like them, and so far this has never happened. And my waiting list is very long...🙂
@@DavideSora mi opinión se basa en ,; en el año 2006 le realize un mantenimiento de barniz a un Guarneri del gesu , también fui a Bogotá y escuche el concierto de James Ednnes quien tocaba un Stradivarius, soy justo contigo.
@@WilliamdarioDelgadorueda Well, it doesn't seem like much to me to get an accurate idea of the sound. Than, keep in mind that my video only shows the comparison between two of my violins, I never wanted to say that they are superior or in any case compared to the originals of Stradivari and Guarneri del Gesù. For this reason, your first comment seemed out of place to me
Да, записи, особенно по качеству звука на RUclips, не идеальны, единственный способ - воспроизвести их вживую. В любом случае спасибо за ваш комментарий
@@Виталий-й3р1и Мои уши на месте, одно справа, а другое слева от головы, и хорошо связаны с мозгом. При сжатии RUclips разница не очень заметна, но ее можно услышать. Может, дело в твоих ушах?
@@DavideSora да нет, разница сильно заметна. Я слышал предыдущие ваши скрипки, мне какие- то понравились. В любом случае, выкладывайте, пожалуйста, больше записей. Ещё интересно, как со временем звук меняется.
@@sergeyramenskiy2231 К сожалению, скрипачи, которые приходят попробовать скрипку, не всегда согласны сниматься или не дают мне разрешения обнародовать видео, особенно если это известные профессионалы. Я их понимаю, слишком много внимания в социальных сетях не всегда хорошо.
I think they sound the same and not any better than a much cheaper violin like a di Matteo. They have done tests, It just physiological. If I could afford to buy a fiddle I would buy the Strad or Del Gesu because they are art, if I wanted a good violin to play I would just get a good violin and NO one would be able to tell the difference even though they think they can.
У этого дерева со струнами мало высоких обертонов, поэтому звук не сладкий и мало ультра низких обертонов, что мешает полёту .И выделяются высокие ,что не может быть просчётом исполнения.Ваши технологии веса и учёта аудиограмм дают результаты, но звук детский. И без возможности.
@user-mk4nr9te7p translated from Russian with Google Translate (sorry, I don't know Russian): "This tree with strings has few high overtones, so the sound is not sweet and few ultra low overtones, which interferes with flight. And the high ones stand out, which cannot be a miscalculation of the performance. Your weight and audiogram recording technologies produce results, but the sound is childish. And without possibility." My answer: Performance calculation error? I'm sorry, but there is no mathematical calculation to establish the performance of the violin, so I don't understand what you mean. Regarding the childish sound, well the violin had only been finished a few weeks when I did this test, so it is definitely like a newborn child, and as such with enormous potential yet to be discovered.😀
Beh, qualcosina si sente se ti concentri e ascolti in cuffia, ma la compressione audio di RUclips certo non aiuta. Chiaramente questo video non ha nessuna velleità di essere attendibile, anche perchè siamo ben lontani da una registrazione professionale. Come dicono gli inglesi, "it's just for fun" 🙂 Comunque non è lo stesso violino, sono effettivamente i due violini di modello diverso che vedi nelle foto, te lo garantisco personalmente, non voglio prendere in giro nessuno.
I don't see how using vibrato can be considered a mistake, if so 99.9% of players make this mistake (I didn't write 100% because I assume you don't use vibrato🙂). Regarding the metal strings, the mistake is yours because they are synthetic strings (Vision Solo as I wrote in the video). Only the E string is steel, as 99.9% of modern violins use today, these are not violins with a baroque set-up. Do you use a gut E string?
@@DavideSora en el barroco no se usaba vibrato, salvo para las notas largas o finales ...además los violines antiguos se perjudican con cuerdas de acero , no fueron fabricados para ello.
@@Recorder-e3e I know, but my violins are not baroque, and even all the original Stradivari or Guarneri have been modified (neck, fingerboard, bassbar, bridge, and the bow has also changed) to adapt to modern strings and be suitable to follow the musical evolution. Metal strings were only used for a short time, then technology developed synthetic strings which are much better, only the E string remained steel. In any case, it is a common belief that baroque string tensions (gut) had a lower tension than modern ones, but it is just a cliché that does not correspond to reality. The tension and also the tuning pitch were all over the place in baroque era, and at times could even be higher than today. Are you perhaps a baroque violinist who plays on philologically correct period instruments?
Baroque music requires proper violins, mine are not baroque violins. Furthermore, depending on the period being addressed, the strings also change following the string evolution (bare gut, gut treated with metal baths, bare or wound G, full wound or demì fileé strings, etc.). A shorter, non-solid ebony fingerboard, a thick, curved neck with a very thick, full heel to accommodate the three or four nails to attach it to the body, and to be able to use the proper left hand baroque technique, etc. etc. It's not just a matter of musical interpretation, graspig a baroque bow and doing little vibrato
I'm building a cello now, and then I'll have to make a viola, so I'm sorry but you'll have to wait some time to get more violin BS. I hope you don't go into withdrawal.😅
К сожалению это жалкое подобие великих. Звук плохо контролировать особенно на высоких нотах. Да и вообще весь диапазон музыки даже не в среднем диапазоне. Звук жалкий и беспомощный,мало или почти нет чёткой атаки,да и сустейн где то в комнате. Много шума и много пафоса, скрипки разыгрывались почти 2 года,а результат где-то в прошлом.
I'm always amazed at how you can hear all these details from a RUclips video, without ever having tried one of my violins in real life. You must have superpowers!🙂 Come on Nikolai Georgievich (but I doubt that's your real name...) don't be so jealous of my violins, if you put in a little effort you might be able to get close to my level, but if you waste your time posting inappropriate comments on all my videos you won't have any time to learn.😅 I don't want to ban anyone from my channel, but please don't insist, my patience has a limit. Anyway, thank you for appreciating my videos.
@@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д This is a bit of a strange concept. However, I believe in myself, in my experience supported by my results, and I am well aware that the sound is just an opinion and criticism is inevitable, when it is sincere and not with a mere denigratory purpose, it is welcome. It is not possible to please everyone and after all if we always agreed life would be a total bore
Ещё в19 веке был уничтожен институт критики и всё что касается культуры стало предметом бизнеса. С тех пор культура стремится в яму и среди людей вашего круга много отчаянных негодяев. Я не имею ввиду вас. Вы на мой взгляд исключительно порядочный мастер и очень много умеете. Но я вижу вам некуда больше расти и хотя вы ещё под эйфорией успеха но тревога нарастает.
В лучшем случае Корея, так как скрипач не китаец, а кореец.😅 Она не профессиональная скрипачка, она просто проходила мимо, чтобы попробовать скрипки, очень любезно разрешила использовать видео. At best, Korea, since the violinist is not Chinese, but Korean.😅 She is not a professional violinist, she was just passing by to try the violins, very kindly allowed the video to be used.
😂😂😂😂😂 Says the person with no videos of their own and a randomly generated name…So easy to start insulting and discriminating people when you’re anonymous… Grow up
@@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3дIt is also free speech to call out a channel cowardly harassing people. Very easy to talk but I would like to listen to your Oistrakh-like skills to try to make such “expert” comments on expression. It seems you also have some advanced “GPS” skills to tell this recording was made in China 😂😂😂😂….. It’s my free speech to laugh at this ridiculous comments… So no, I’m not against freedom of speech, but trying to trash people for no good reason doesn’t seem good to me either..
these are obviously budget asian made copies clue theres (Tools behind on the wall ) how can you realistically comment on strads vs guarneri DO YOU KNOW HOW PATHETIC THAT IS 😃😃😃😃 a true guarneri is richer than a strad more sonic throw
For easy comparison use these timestamps:
0:37 / 3:27
0:53 / 3:43
Thank you for the timestamps. Great idea! I pinned it as a featured comment👍
Being almost deaf I can only appreciate the sound, both are great. To my ears the Guarneri is slightly more audible but doesen't mean it's better. I made an experiment comparing both tracks in graphic waves, it's interesting that the duration is different and also peaks of high and low are quite different. This just to say that the two instruments are performing different. At first sight I love both the violins, congratulations to the builder stunning instruments
Thanks for your comments, and for taking the trouble to compare the acoustic spectra, much appreciated.🙂
Oh your strad is a masterpiece! People are mainly drawn to the tone and feel, but good performer now the responsiveness, projection, and transparency of that strad is amazing.
It has every soloist's condition that every performer wants.
well done!
Thanks!
I am obviously aware that when it comes to recordings it is difficult (probably impossible) to draw conclusions about the sound. Then each violin has its own character and everyone will have their preferences, this is inevitable, but listening to them in real life and played by different players, I am really satisfied with the sound of both.🙂
Thank you for taking the time to listen to this video and offer me your opinion, I really appreciate it.
I've always preferred the sound of a Guarneri, even if they're copies. This video doesn't change anything in my mind about that. I'd like that Guarneri model, but I fear I couldn't even afford a decent copy of a Guarneri, which this one definitely seems to be :-( . Lovely tone, warm and full of oomph. You, sir, are a true craftsman.
Strad or Guarneri, the most important is the player.
Yes, but always the particular player would prefer and sound different with both of them.
The player AND the instrument are equally decisive and important
@@Rotebuehl1 It is, in having the two 'together', that music is made.
Is it not... many good players are dead... Paganini, Vivaldi, Strauß...etc... but the Sound of the very good Violins are still here... so for me the Violins are more important than any Player...
To me the Guarneri sounds richer and more powerful. Beautiful work Davide, both violins look and sound wonderful.
Thanks Berl 🙂
This is how they both sound...(just use earphones or headphones)
Stradivarius: Silvery, Precise, sweeter
Guarneri: Dark, velvety, richer
I prefer Strad because its more Cut through, refined, and balanced! 😍😍
For Guarneri?... Too muddy for me but i still love richness of the Guarneri though☺️
The sound of the Guarnieri is beautiful. Congratulations, Master.
It's hard to choose. It is like choosing between two kinds of cake... both delicious and decadent.
These are different instruments. And different compositions will sound better on one of them. Although if I had to choose one, I would choose Granieri It has more warmth, drama, overtones.
Yep, every violinist should have multiple violins with different characteristics to be able to choose depending on the music he has to play. Well, I'm a violin maker, I couldn't help but be happy if everyone could afford them...😇
Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you hear a difference, from the other comments it seems that not everyone does, but I can assure you that when listened live it is quite evident
@@DavideSora , Unfortunately, some people cannot distinguish a drum from an electric guitar and it is impossible to explain the difference to them. To my ears, the difference between violins is huge, well, I just love music, and I have normal sound equipment. =) Thank you for such an interesting comparison, wonderful violins and wonderful performance.
@@user-umnetbds379 r u talking about me ?😂😱
è troppo bello e interessante questo canale, perciò mi iscrivo!
@Davide Sora well i love Guarneri, Stradivari is too sharp for my ear. Awesome comparison. Love it.
I prefer the voice of the Guarneri, it sounds more powerful.
del gesu G string is amazing!!! am curious how would PI, Rondo, or Pirazzi strings would sound like. Vision solo seems has less tension.
Yes, the strings Vision Solo have a bit less tension, which is why I like to use them. In my opinion they let me understand the violin's behavior better at the first setting-up. I also used the other strings, among which the PI are my favorite, especially for the G string which is very rich and deep. I use the Vision Solo as a reference benchmark for my violins, constantly changing string type or brand would not help me understand the violin response, but I think the final choice is up to the player, there are a lot of high-quality strings available nowadays
Excuse my ignorance but what are Pl strings?
@@bobsdad369 Thomastik Peter Infeld:
www.thomastik-infeld.com/en/products/orchestral-strings/violin/peter-infeld
@@DavideSora David, thank you..I ordered a set which will be delivered today which I'll string up my second build. And thank you for all of your videos. I use them constantly while building.
Davide, have you tried Perpetual set with steel core A string (set 41A091 if I am correct) on your violins?
Both are fabulous! The strad high notes sound like a human vocalist! However, I wonder abou the "reverb" in the recordings. Was that added artificially, or was it caused by the acoustics of the room? Respect ot you and your players!
Thank you! I added a bit of reverb to compensate for the dryness of my small workshop room. Unfortunately, RUclips's audio compression does not allow you to hear the differences well, which only live listening would allow you to truly appreciate. But despite this, I believe that with careful listening with headphones, something useful can emerge
Guarneri is better than Strad. It is sweeter and brighter ...
I prefer the silkiness of the Guarneri, but both are lovely
Thank you!🙂
Neither sounded like the copies I heard or both sounded similar, so I would say the maker has a bigger impact on sound and maybe the sound is of your own rather than Stradivari or Guarneri.
At the lower note run near the end the Guarneri sounded fuller though and both are about the same on high or the edge is on Guarneri.
Thanks for your comment and, well, I take that as a compliment. In fact, I am convinced that every luthier should look for his own sound, rather than trying to copy, which I think is a bit silly as I am convinced that it is not possible to reproduce the sound of a violin that is 200 or 300 years old in one that has just been born. In fact, even the best copies I've heard don't even come close to the originals. In reality, although similar, these two violins heard in real life are different, as all violins are from each other, but unfortunately, RUclips's audio compression is not ideal for showing the subtle nuances of a violin's sound that are so significant for the ear and sensations of a violinist.
@@DavideSora I would think you should try on an original model or one that represents you the best.
It would be a hard sell for sure, but violins are hard sell in today's environment anyway regardless.
@@DavideSora I should add that in this test both violins aren't play hard enough.
I would like to hear the dynamic range and how it reacts when overdriven, it is too even and polite.
Next time, upload video that is 1440p or higher, then youtube will be forced to use better video codec.
@@wckoek You're right, the player was too gentle and delicate to explore all the possibilities of these violins, but I don't feel comfortable telling the musicians how to play, everyone has their own style and I like to respect it. Of course, I also had other musicians try these violins (she is not the owner), but alas not everyone like to be shared on a public video.🤷♂
@@wckoek I don't think that if I had to redesign an original model I would make it very different from the ones I use, and in any case, the outline is only a fairly marginal part in determining the sound (I use the 3 main forms of Stradivari, G, PG, and P, we have the original ones here at the museum). But for the most crucial aspects of the construction, I follow my personal principles, and the Cremonese construction method (inside form) that I use allows a lot of freedom of interpretation, even using the same form. So no need to design a personal model. For the Del Gesù model I use only one form, del Gesù himself used a maximum of two for his entire career and managed to make violins that were very different from each other. In any case I have made just a few violins on del Gesù form, my personal preference goes to Stradivari forms. Selling violins is difficult for young luthiers, fortunately (or unfortunately...) I have been working for so many years that I have no sales problems at all, to the point that at the moment I no longer take further new orders, my waiting list has become too long. But maybe it would be better to have more sales problems, but be younger.😅
They are very similar. They are made in the same shop and the makers had almost the same knowledge. To my ears, the Strad sounds more balanced and a tad rounder while the Guarneri sounds more articulated and a tad edgier.
Stradivari is the song of the soul, and Guarneri is the master's tuning fork
what is she playing as partition ! thanks for the feed up !
Elgar's Op. 12?
@@clee5653 thanks !!
Yep, Edward Elgar's Salut d'amour Op.12
@@DavideSora thanks !🍀🌹
Both beautiful, but the Guarneri does it for me. It sounds fuller and a bit more powerful. Well done Davide.
Thank you Berl, happy New year!
Both violins are made by Davide Sora.
Yep, and they are not copies of Stradivari or Guarneri, just made with slightly different shapes inspired by those authors.
To my ears, the Guarneri records better - especially when using a $5,000 Neumann tube condenser microphone.
A Neumann tube condenser would be great, but I'd prefer a pair of Schoeps. Unfortunately, they're both out of my budget. I'm waiting for someone to offer them to me for free, possibly with the appropriate preamps, but I think they'd make the noise of the cars passing by my workshop even worse than you hear in the video.😄
@@DavideSora I see - as in hear - what you mean. Back around the mid 1990s when I can finally afford a better sounding hi-fi set up, I've noticed that a number of classical records I've "inherited" from my uncle that were recorded during the 1970s had distant traffic noise which was inaudible on my previous "cheaper" set-up.
Guarneri always the best ❤
Always, but Strads have the advertisement of being the best. Ha, what a load of old cobblers.
Both beautiful 😊
Here I liked Guarner's voice better now.
ma quale guarnieri :D
due gioielli, complimenti maestro Sora,. Che ne dici di costruirne uno adesso facendo metà Strad e metà Dell Gésu?? in realtà due strumenti, uno con basso Stad e cantino Dell Gésu, e l'altro con basso Dell Gésu e cantino Strad. Sarebbe un mix interessante e unico al mondo...
Probabilmente avere un violino che riunisce insieme le migliori qualità di uno Strad e di un Del Gesù sarebbe il sogno di tutti i violinisti, ma purtroppo non posso fare magie, riesco solo a fare dei violini Davide Sora😅
@@DavideSora e comunque sono meravigliosi, molto ben costruiti e di qualità unica. Congratulazioni maestro Sora.
Come ascoltato nella realtà due originali, lo Strad più brillante e cristallino, il Guarnieri più personalità e timbro ma.... si tratta di un video YT... complimenti maestro la seguo con ammirazione!
No se ustedes pero el sonido del Guarneri del gesu, me estremece ❤
My heart jumped on the Guaneri
(would I be a professional soloist the Stradivari might be more appropriate - but I am a romantic hobbyist)
Love Guarneri sound more powerful, stereotypical than strads, but Guarneri model usually bigger than strads, play technique a little bit difficult for me.
Sorry to correct you, but Guarneris are often smaller than Strads, they are generally wider between the Cs, but have a shorter body length and especially a shorter vibrating string than Strads. Of course, you can't generalize, it depends on the models and the period you consider for both luthiers
El Violín Stradivari , primero por su excelente y brillante sonido .
in the quick movements the Stradi, in the slow movements the Guarneri.
Stradivari è più scintillante, squillante. Il Guarneri è più pieno, rotondo e potente! Grazie. Bellissimo e brava alla Maestra
Both but the Guarneri 😍
On my view the Guarneri Violin has a much more extroverted sound. It sounds like an A like when the tenor singer sing a very high sounds and he smiles and open the mouth the Stradivarius More on my point of you intimate delicate maybe mature?
I much prefer the Guarneri
Me gustó mas el Guarneri. Saludos y felicitaciones por el video.
Both beautiful but the strad was a little more shrill 😊😊😊
Sound about the same to me.
Whilst I wouldn't say no to a Stradivari, I'd much prefer a Guarneri del Gesu'. I love the sound they make and everything about them. I can hear the difference and they're at the top of my list of desired, but never to own, instruments !! I guess I'll have to make do with my Eduard Reichert 1913 violin which has a lovely sound but nothing compared to a Guarneri. This is the just about the only time I wish I was a multi-millionaire !! I'd have a Guarneri within a month. Sadly, never to be....
guarnivari
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tu sei birichino e che bravo ! guarnivari !
@@ma5726 Era per dire che entrambi hanno un bel suono ,in più sono bellissimi
Stradivari for me
Thanks for commenting!
Sono due violini meravigliosi !! ❤️🥇❤️👏🏻👏🏻
Your Strad sounds a bit blunt in comparision to GdG
G string always Guarneri. E string always Strads.
E String the Strad will always win but A D G the Guarneri beats any other violins on this planet.. It just sounds so much more well rounded, mellow and exact.
This being said, the E string has always been a fetish for Violinists so I understand why the Strads are so much more known, after all the E string is what makes a violin not a viola.
But if I had the money or the choice, I would ALWAYS choose a Guarneri Del Gesù. Tho I also prefer third/fourth position A over open E any day so yeah haha
Agree though Isaac Stern always had a powerful sweet tone on the high E of his Guarneri. 🤔
If you want a more powerful E, you can install higher tension E string like Evah Pirazzi. For me, I prefer to tone down the E string a bit so that it will not be so "piercing" to the ears. I prefer Zyex E string. But there is a new brand, Alice, which is also good.
Stradivari for me has a more wholesome sound and richness...
ive always found guaneri's sweeter- i mean come on, they both sound amazing but if i had to own one (baring resale) i would pick the less revered. great playing ..not so great editing, when comparing anything you should really try to cut down on the time lapse in between
Thanks for your comment.
Well, Guarneri is certainly no less revered than Stradivari, I'd say that they are on par in terms of popularity, and sales prices at auctions (for the originals, of course) prove it🙂
You're right about the edit, but I didn't want to make a real scientific comparison, which would make sense only by listening to violins played in real life, not on RUclips. The title of the video was mostly ironic/provocative, actually it's just about two of my violins.
It sound as though you are struggling to produce the true sound on Guarneri compared to Strad; it seems to sing more freely.
I remember reading somewhere that Guarneri responds better to more aggressive style of playing
I like the second one, although neither are bad
🤔Stradivari is more beauty than Guarneri, but Guarneri is more clean than Stradivari; so I prefer Guarneri. The Stradivari notes finals in high vibrate, so they make dirty the next note. Maybe for that Paganini use Guarneri, this man is so faster ⚡ => no time for dirty sound between notes.
the ultimate violinists dreams
Guarneri has a more profound sound.
Sarebbe come dire se vuoi più bene alla mamma o al papà o se va meglio una Ferrari o una Lamborghini.😂 Io li trovo due grandi violini con sonorità stupende che ogni violinista desidererebbe. Per dare una valutazione più precisa bisognerebbe sentirli dal vivo o con un impianto audio adeguato ma la mia impressione è di sentire un po' più brillante lo Stradivari e un po' più rotondo il Guarneri. Però dico una cosa, questi sono violini moderni che si basano su strumenti settecenteschi ma quasi tutti modificati per poter essere suonati in un contesto "moderno" e, quando si dice che questa è una copia di un Guarneri o di uno Stradivari è solo una mezza verità, perché ormai anche negli "originali" c'è rimasto ben poco di originale se non l'estetica. Io parlerei piuttosto di una interpretazione moderna di uno Stradivari o di qualsiasi altro liutaio sei- settecentesco. Spero che quei pochi originai mai modificati pervenutici, non vengano più manomessi perché li ritengo -Patrimonio dell'Umanità- che potranno servire anche per fare copie fedeli per quei musicisti che suonano musica barocca con orchestre barocche.
Grazie!
Più che copiare io cerco di trarre ispirazione dai violini antichi cremonesi, ma più che di interpretazione moderna dello stile di qualcun'altro mi piace pensare che si tratti di espressione dello stile personale del liutaio. Io ho copiato le forme interne su cui vengono costruiti i violini (cardine del metodo costruttivo cremonese) ma poi le utilizzo abbastanza liberamente, proprio come facevano al tempo di Stradivari, dove nessun liutaio si sarebbe mai sognato di copiare il lavoro altrui.
Sono perfettamente d'accordo sulla conservazione degli strumenti non troppo alterati (purtroppo quelli in condizioni veramente originali sono veramente pochi), sono di enorme interesse per chi vuol fare buoni violini, non ci si può esimere dallo studiarli.
Сделать точную копию любой скрипки невозможно и поэтому не о каком творчестве речь конечно же не идёт. Ремесленник всегда будет просто Ремесленником .И это совсем не плохо но вот только творчеством здесь и не пахнет. Многие плотники не хуже вас работают.
Belíssimos violinos.
Prefiro Guarneri
It's del Gesu` for me ❤️
Guarneri Del Gesu, by a mile.
They both have very nice sound, maestro, my compliments!!😊👏👏👏, but to my opinion the Strad has a warmer rational sound, that’s to say has the same character in every sound, while the DG has a very free, brilliant sound, but seems not as easy to play as the Strad, perhaps listening live is another thing… congrats👏👏👏🌹🌹 🌹🌟🌟🌟😊😊
Both beautiful no comparison! They both sound shit if played by me
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Ottimi tutti e due . A me piace di più il Guarneri !!!🙂🙂
Stradivari, bello sonido
Finally someone who appreciates the Strad!😅
I think the Strad's E and A string have an unsurpassed complex and crystalline timbre, if I were to play Mozart I would prefer that.
beauty is on the ear of the beholder but to me ill love to hear Vivaldi spring on a strad and winter on the guar!
but as a violin colector my self I noticed that all great violins have g power are softer on e and Vice versa but when it’s a great violin hi or low it will sound greater than an average violin none the less when it comes to what everyone can really afford the sound it will always be on the fracing and musicality of the player and a great player can give chills with any fiddle
how ever once you play something at strad and guar level its sad to go back period! my dream is to own one or more violin from each maker and play them all but looks like this strads are way out of my budget for now lol 😂 but come on who would say no to either or if it was a gift
Переслушал несколько раз, это не Скрипки великих итальянцев, это очень хорошие копии или хорошие программы звукозаписи. Проблемы конечно есть со звуком. Но мне нравится ваши успехи со звуком. Немножко хотелось бы, чтобы появились на разных струнахр.разные тембральные краски, тогда диапазон возможностей расширится до бесконечности.😅
Если вы основываете свое суждение на (совершенно непрофессиональной) записи, вы полностью сбились с пути, хотя я полагаю, вы прекрасно это осознаете🙂 Мои скрипки не копии, но все равно спасибо, что назвали их "прекрасными копиями".
Different violins for playing different music in different places by different musicians. No use playing same music in same room. The room is too small for Guarnery, and violinist has not enough temper. IMHO
È come scegliere tra la panna e il cioccolato, ma se proprio devo…Guarnieri mi ha rapito il cuore ❤️
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They both sound great, but I like the Guarneri
Никак не предполагал что одну скрипку делали два мастера. 😂😂😂
Я один, но я стою двоих😂😂😂
O strad canta como uma mulher
These both are gorgeous in looks and sound, guaneri tends to be less violin sounding and more human sounding, but I think better than these both would be a Davide Sora violin 🙂
Thanks!
Well, they already are Sora violins.. 😊😊😊
It's the soul which makes listening to good music, satisfying!
The irony of the situation is that the Chinese (after much discipline) have that enviable "soul"!
If the best of Western culture was music, specially stringed instruments, the Chinese talents have come to the rescue!
Thanks for the video!
Love and peace to all!
Ambos violines suenen como imitaciones. ... Ninguno es original los bajos están muy deficientes y ambos carecen de belleza 🤕🤕
If you were a fair person you would have said that the recording sounds like an imitation, because you have never heard the violins in real life. If I had paid for a professional recording, perhaps perfecting it in post-production as they do for all concert videos, you probably would have liked them. But if you don't like them you can say so freely, the violinists who play them like them a lot, and that's enough for me. I always leave my customers free to choose whether or not to buy my violins at the time of delivery if they don't like them, and so far this has never happened. And my waiting list is very long...🙂
@@DavideSora mi opinión se basa en ,; en el año 2006 le realize un mantenimiento de barniz a un Guarneri del gesu , también fui a Bogotá y escuche el concierto de James Ednnes quien tocaba un Stradivarius, soy justo contigo.
@@WilliamdarioDelgadorueda Well, it doesn't seem like much to me to get an accurate idea of the sound. Than, keep in mind that my video only shows the comparison between two of my violins, I never wanted to say that they are superior or in any case compared to the originals of Stradivari and Guarneri del Gesù. For this reason, your first comment seemed out of place to me
Это надо в руках подержать, чтобы сказать.
У Гварнери тембр интересней, басок, правда, непонятен.
Да, записи, особенно по качеству звука на RUclips, не идеальны, единственный способ - воспроизвести их вживую. В любом случае спасибо за ваш комментарий
Где ваши уши? Это одна и та же скрипка.
@@Виталий-й3р1и Мои уши на месте, одно справа, а другое слева от головы, и хорошо связаны с мозгом. При сжатии RUclips разница не очень заметна, но ее можно услышать. Может, дело в твоих ушах?
@@DavideSora да нет, разница сильно заметна.
Я слышал предыдущие ваши скрипки, мне какие- то понравились.
В любом случае, выкладывайте, пожалуйста, больше записей.
Ещё интересно, как со временем звук меняется.
@@sergeyramenskiy2231 К сожалению, скрипачи, которые приходят попробовать скрипку, не всегда согласны сниматься или не дают мне разрешения обнародовать видео, особенно если это известные профессионалы. Я их понимаю, слишком много внимания в социальных сетях не всегда хорошо.
Guarneri!
I think they sound the same and not any better than a much cheaper violin like a di Matteo. They have done tests, It just physiological. If I could afford to buy a fiddle I would buy the Strad or Del Gesu because they are art, if I wanted a good violin to play I would just get a good violin and NO one would be able to tell the difference even though they think they can.
Guarneri ❤
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Guarneri 100%
У этого дерева со струнами мало высоких обертонов, поэтому звук не сладкий и мало ультра низких обертонов, что мешает полёту .И выделяются высокие ,что не может быть просчётом исполнения.Ваши технологии веса и учёта аудиограмм дают результаты, но звук детский. И без возможности.
incomprehensible !!!😱😱😱
@@pauljack7170 конечно не понял. Этому не учат, а сам?Слабо?
@user-mk4nr9te7p translated from Russian with Google Translate (sorry, I don't know Russian):
"This tree with strings has few high overtones, so the sound is not sweet and few ultra low overtones, which interferes with flight. And the high ones stand out, which cannot be a miscalculation of the performance. Your weight and audiogram recording technologies produce results, but the sound is childish. And without possibility."
My answer:
Performance calculation error? I'm sorry, but there is no mathematical calculation to establish the performance of the violin, so I don't understand what you mean. Regarding the childish sound, well the violin had only been finished a few weeks when I did this test, so it is definitely like a newborn child, and as such with enormous potential yet to be discovered.😀
Strad.
Як на мене - Страдіварі лагідніший і повніший (обʼємніший)…
Non cambia nulla e non mi stupirei se fosse sempre lo stesso violino.
Beh, qualcosina si sente se ti concentri e ascolti in cuffia, ma la compressione audio di RUclips certo non aiuta. Chiaramente questo video non ha nessuna velleità di essere attendibile, anche perchè siamo ben lontani da una registrazione professionale. Come dicono gli inglesi, "it's just for fun" 🙂 Comunque non è lo stesso violino, sono effettivamente i due violini di modello diverso che vedi nelle foto, te lo garantisco personalmente, non voglio prendere in giro nessuno.
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@@DavideSora perche non posti un video su come si progetta il suono del violino? su quelli che hai messo si nota solo che sei un bravo falegname
David sora 🥇❤️from israel🇮🇱
Guarneri
Мне никакой звук не понравился.
The sound of silence?
@@DavideSora bem isto muito bom o som deles
2 errores; tocar con vibrato y con cuerdas de metal.😮
I don't see how using vibrato can be considered a mistake, if so 99.9% of players make this mistake (I didn't write 100% because I assume you don't use vibrato🙂). Regarding the metal strings, the mistake is yours because they are synthetic strings (Vision Solo as I wrote in the video). Only the E string is steel, as 99.9% of modern violins use today, these are not violins with a baroque set-up. Do you use a gut E string?
@@DavideSora en el barroco no se usaba vibrato, salvo para las notas largas o finales ...además los violines antiguos se perjudican con cuerdas de acero , no fueron fabricados para ello.
@@Recorder-e3e I know, but my violins are not baroque, and even all the original Stradivari or Guarneri have been modified (neck, fingerboard, bassbar, bridge, and the bow has also changed) to adapt to modern strings and be suitable to follow the musical evolution. Metal strings were only used for a short time, then technology developed synthetic strings which are much better, only the E string remained steel. In any case, it is a common belief that baroque string tensions (gut) had a lower tension than modern ones, but it is just a cliché that does not correspond to reality. The tension and also the tuning pitch were all over the place in baroque era, and at times could even be higher than today.
Are you perhaps a baroque violinist who plays on philologically correct period instruments?
@@DavideSora si toco música barroca
Baroque music requires proper violins, mine are not baroque violins. Furthermore, depending on the period being addressed, the strings also change following the string evolution (bare gut, gut treated with metal baths, bare or wound G, full wound or demì fileé strings, etc.). A shorter, non-solid ebony fingerboard, a thick, curved neck with a very thick, full heel to accommodate the three or four nails to attach it to the body, and to be able to use the proper left hand baroque technique, etc. etc. It's not just a matter of musical interpretation, graspig a baroque bow and doing little vibrato
More violin BS!
I'm building a cello now, and then I'll have to make a viola, so I'm sorry but you'll have to wait some time to get more violin BS. I hope you don't go into withdrawal.😅
К сожалению это жалкое подобие великих. Звук плохо контролировать особенно на высоких нотах. Да и вообще весь диапазон музыки даже не в среднем диапазоне. Звук жалкий и беспомощный,мало или почти нет чёткой атаки,да и сустейн где то в комнате. Много шума и много пафоса, скрипки разыгрывались почти 2 года,а результат где-то в прошлом.
I'm always amazed at how you can hear all these details from a RUclips video, without ever having tried one of my violins in real life. You must have superpowers!🙂
Come on Nikolai Georgievich (but I doubt that's your real name...) don't be so jealous of my violins, if you put in a little effort you might be able to get close to my level, but if you waste your time posting inappropriate comments on all my videos you won't have any time to learn.😅 I don't want to ban anyone from my channel, but please don't insist, my patience has a limit.
Anyway, thank you for appreciating my videos.
Нужно бояться тех кто тебе льстит .Кто тебя ругает тот в тебя верит. Вот только веришь ли ты в себя .@@DavideSora
@@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3д This is a bit of a strange concept. However, I believe in myself, in my experience supported by my results, and I am well aware that the sound is just an opinion and criticism is inevitable, when it is sincere and not with a mere denigratory purpose, it is welcome. It is not possible to please everyone and after all if we always agreed life would be a total bore
Внимание послушайте её игру. Много неточностей и это не на пользу дела при этом вы пользуетесь программой звука. @@DavideSora
Ещё в19 веке был уничтожен институт критики и всё что касается культуры стало предметом бизнеса. С тех пор культура стремится в яму и среди людей вашего круга много отчаянных негодяев. Я не имею ввиду вас. Вы на мой взгляд исключительно порядочный мастер и очень много умеете. Но я вижу вам некуда больше расти и хотя вы ещё под эйфорией успеха но тревога нарастает.
The first girl looks more asian?
🙂
Играет не очень хорошо и не передаёт чувства. Поэтому невозможно достойно оценить звук. Когда такое случается кажется, что это Китай.
В лучшем случае Корея, так как скрипач не китаец, а кореец.😅
Она не профессиональная скрипачка, она просто проходила мимо, чтобы попробовать скрипки, очень любезно разрешила использовать видео.
At best, Korea, since the violinist is not Chinese, but Korean.😅
She is not a professional violinist, she was just passing by to try the violins, very kindly allowed the video to be used.
😂😂😂😂😂 Says the person with no videos of their own and a randomly generated name…So easy to start insulting and discriminating people when you’re anonymous… Grow up
@@dvides89вы что-то имеете против свободы высказывания или это у вас платный контент?Откройте закрытый канал и делайте все что угодно.
@@НиколайГеоргиевич-ю3дIt is also free speech to call out a channel cowardly harassing people. Very easy to talk but I would like to listen to your Oistrakh-like skills to try to make such “expert” comments on expression. It seems you also have some advanced “GPS” skills to tell this recording was made in China 😂😂😂😂….. It’s my free speech to laugh at this ridiculous comments… So no, I’m not against freedom of speech, but trying to trash people for no good reason doesn’t seem good to me either..
@@dvides89зря вы так. Ютуб вас заблокирует. Вы пользователь социальной сети и вы нарушаете правила социальной сети.
these are obviously budget asian made copies clue theres (Tools behind on the wall ) how can you realistically comment on strads vs guarneri DO YOU KNOW HOW PATHETIC THAT IS 😃😃😃😃 a true guarneri is richer than a strad more sonic throw
Hey Joe, you are obviously an Expert 😅😅😅😅 Just a pathetic One😃😃😃😃
@@DavideSora Hahaha
Disgusting comment 🤮.
Guarneri!!!
Guarneri ❤
Guarnieri
Guaranieri