Why not start the cuts in Westminster, breakfast allowance, heating allowance, subsidised bar, and many more. I don't get my breakfast paid for or my heating, it comes out of my Taxed salary....
Because that really won't make much difference. Means testing the winter fuel payment can raise billions. What would that raise? A million? It won't have any impact
House of lords 361 quid a day allowance , they go to the bar pick up their money then its off to the sex club in soho - 738 lords x £361 PER DAY EACH = covers the bedroom tax .One lord one day covers 6 peoples bed tax for a month = unclogs the housing market
@drummingtildeath well how about they lead by example means test the mps and if they get above the £218 -15p pension credit level they don't get subsidised food and drink in the bars and restaurants that they then pay for with their expenses that's fair isn't it ?
Wrong, he accepted the use of accommodation worth £20,000 if he had to pay for it, which he didn't. Boris excepted several luxury holidays paid for by donors.
I’m sure mortgage free millionaire family could have afforded to pay for their own accommodation . Starmers screamed no end to the Tories whilst they were in office about all sorts of freebies and here he is he’s happily and hypocritically doing the same . Same trough different colour.
and so the tax payer will need to pay him for the rest of his life and his predecessor, while the country becomes more of a laughing stock. This isn't X factor it's running a country
I can't get my head around this. All this money being spent on hotels etc for people who shouldn't be here and are not welome, and he does this to our pensioners. I watched his smug face with the interview with Susanna Reid. Shame on him.
@@stevec6427 he can’t get the money back and he won’t stop he benefits to the illegals, which he could and should, because as a small country and lower level of workers, more on benefits than before, we cannot keep this going.
I would guess that if it was £20k for six weeks it would be at least basic acceptable accommodation. Probably with an iron, a kettle and possibly a Nespresso style coffee machine. A shower maybe even? I'll do some actual research and get right back to youi.
Starmer has made a big mistake by stopping the winter fuel allowance for pensioners,this issue will not go away until Starmer is removed for his incompetence
@Smith-z8q1r That is going to happen eventually. I will never see a state pension even though I'm paying in for others. We have too many old people so it's going to be the case that it's a means tested benefit like pension credit. My supervisor in Citizens Advice Bureau suggested the days of the state pension were numbered 20 years ago.
Let's be honest, they did this because if the cut goes ahead, this government would be lasting one term and Starmer could be gone within a year. The unions want to keep Starmer and Labour in power as long as possible. They've proven themselves easy to manipulate
The Baby Boomers are the most spoilt and privileged generation in human history, they have the highest debt to society, taking a staggering quarter of a million pounds for each pensioner, they are the private landlords of Great Britain with 41% of pensioners owning 2 or more houses, 85% of baby boomers have voted conservative because of the greedy pensions given by the government, they have destroyed the Earth and taken so much and given nothing back... despicable people.
@@matthewmiles9626 Great advert for democracy. Had enough had more collective spine than a tepid jellyfish, what would or could he have done? Take the whip away from most of his members? He would have to compromise.
@michaelsummerell8618 They don't have a pair between the lot of them..cabinet or back benchers..giving up money and expenses...no chance ...they are in it for themselves..its actually sickening everytime u turn on the news something else has been taken from the citizens of this country to feather their nests ..and stop so much funding going abroad and to people who are illegally in our country...we are a sovereign state..we need to take care of the needs in this country ...then see what help we can send abroad after we get our own affairs sorted..but spending starts here...!!
He is paid £170K a year and yet he needs someone to buy his clothes. Pensioner being paid £13K a year and he has no problem removing the winter fuel allowance. Shocking that he allows a donor to buy his clothes.
My state pension is £11:502 a year.. my entire income.. I still have to pay for dentist, opticians and clothes.. Starmer gets them gifted.. he's a joke.. no freebies for me.. can't even claim pension credit cus I'm £3 over the threshold.
He has dug himself a bigger hole ,bigger than the mystical £22 billion black hole this will never be forgotten by the people or pensioners, to throw them to freeze and possibly die is despicable all the while receiving all the freebies he could is disgraceful and does not represent this country he must go now
Its no Myth or mystery ,it was just covered up as Mps profited from it be it convid or the mythical " smuggling gangs " money is & has been squandered on migrants & in just 22 months at a billion a month ot mounted up fast
Why? Do pensioners that use the money for their holiday pot or to give the grandkids a good Xmas present really need it. Give it to those who need most by all means, but not to those who don't.
Now the unions should withdraw all funding given to The Labour Party, then and only then will I as a pensioner, rejoin the union having left this year being in disgust with it all. 🥶💀😡🦉
Unions won't drop their support for Labour due to the new workers rights Labour have in their manifesto to replace rights that the tories removed and they're scrapping zero hours contracts
Well done. Disgusting how people who have contributed to the country all their life are just tossed to aside like an old toy when they are at their most vulnerable.
I'm still contributing to the country after my retirement as I have an occupational pension and I have to pay tax. But I am by no means well off before anyone starts saying that I have pots of money just because I have a works pension that I worked over 45 years for.
@@Sam88-l4kThe 40% includes many that aren't counted. Try living on just around £200 a week with Council Tax, gas, electricity and water bills in addition to food plus rent as basics.
@geoffreycodnett6570 76% of pensioners own their own home. Most are sat on money. They bought property at a time when it was 4 times their salary. Now, it's 10 times in most cases. The biggest worry is the generation in their 30's now who will own nothing.
And be replaced by whom? The LibDems? Fine, but unlikely to happen. The Greens? OK; but even less likely. The Tories? No, they're worse than Labour. Reform? Certainly not! They're even worse than the Tories and they can't win anyway since, thankfully, they only appeal to a narrow base. Someone else? Who would that be?
I’m disgusted that some of the most vulnerable people in society are being put at risk - I live with my mum, who is 70 years old, and we was putting near £300 I the meter to keep her warm - it’s a challenge but it will be done again this year! I don’t care about me just my mum! I can’t get a job because, between caring for my mum and son, I left with little time to manage my own illness, never mind go and work a few hours that I’ll end up being punished for so still in the red! My mum worked a majority of her life and I only stopped working to care for her and this is how she, like many, is treated?
Many pensioners are better off than people working minimum wage ,and a lot of them didn’t give two hoots when the tories attacked the disabled and unemployed. Put on an extra sweater that’s what pensioners “used to say” in snarky Facebook comments just saying 😊
If difficult decisions have to be done cut the payments made to MPs Housing costs and payments to cover heating and electricity also cheaper meals and drinks in the House of Commons they don't seem to have to take payments reduced from the Public Purse instead of hurting Senior Citizens and the Disabled as a lot of money could be taken into account. They don't have to take the bitter medicine they dish out to the lower incomes and infirmities.
Millionaires cutting pensioners fuel allowance and then having the gall to claim heating expenses for themselves is the pinnacle of disgusting. Although it will not save much, I do think many of the rules politicians have made for themselves should be reformed, like renting 2nd homes to each other, accepting gifts and donations, claiming expenses for non-job related stuff. The public purse should not be a free for all game of hungry hippos for those able to access it.
'Millionaires....'?? Ha ha. Have a little look at which politicians and landed gentry including British royal family members stuffed their wealth into tax free bogus Cayman Island company accounts (for example). This info is readily available to anyone who can be bothered to look for it. Time to wake up.
How about mp's giving up there lunchtime food allowance between £15 -£30 day, maybe more now!!!. Get in the real world and buy there own lunch like the rest off us
Starmers abuse of donations beggars belief. Now £20,000 so his 16 year old son can study peacefully when he is a millionaire. I hope the press keep digging and digging.
They are the ones with a semblance of dignity and community in the Labour Party If they need to save money take away the heating allowance from all mps it shouldn’t be a thing in the first place they can more than afford it out of their paycheque.
And now he want's to harm the vulnerable on sick benefits he want's to take away their benefits put them straight back in to work being unreliable drugged up and pain mentally unwell
To be fair their are lots claiming for supposedly mental health issues when covid first appeared. And still receiving straight into their bank, so don't have sign on or look for work. And still claiming four years later given no one has bothered to reassess or check up on them. There is a young person near where I live claimed mental health issues when eighteen, now twenty two & never looked for work or intends to..and there are thousands doing the same. Living with parents but will receive winter fuel payment because they are supposed mental ill. The really mentally ill do decidedly need to be cared for...bit these youngster who have never paid a penny into this country but live a life of Riley on benefits.
I’m one of them, but I think they will just blank it. They will hide behind the equalities act,and say this was done to make men and women equal which is important. But
I don't see why 1950's women are different to everyone else who has had the pension age raised from when they started working. When I started working, my retirement age was 65, now it's been raised to 68 and it'll probably go up again
@@stevec6427 It’s because they weren’t given enough notice. It went from 60-65 then 66 rapidly. Some women retired in their late 50s with health issues etc, with company pension thinking the lump sum would last a couple of years till they get their state pension. Then it was implemented with speed, and the woman’s planning was now in a mess. They didn’t give people enough notice, that’s the issue.
Surely The house of ‘Commons’ is now a contradiction in terms! How many of them live like commoners? Feel what it’s like to worry how they can pay even the most basic of bills, make the hardest of decisions like our pensioners this winter whether to pay for food or heating! Whilst they luxuriate with all the ‘BENEFITS’ they themselves receive…. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach!
Starmer ought to try living on a pension only. Two tier has a wage and an expense account, never mind freebies. I’m alright Jack Labour. Reform needed……
Show me one single person who agrees pensioners should have their heating cut. What utter rubbish . Take it off the wealthiest and get them to donate all their freebies and donations to the poorest. Starmer is a psychopath.
They have. Only got halfway......32 billion to get from London to Leeds has ended with120billion spent and only got to Birmingham. Sunak stopped it when he took over.
@@Clem_Fandango11 stopped far too late! Johnson had a chance to stop it a couple of years or so ago! The Whole Rail Network plus rolling stock could have been upgraded & renewed for far less
According to Prolific London, Sir Keir has a net worth of around £7.7 million, however, they share it could rise to between £10m and £15m when “taking his other revenue streams into account and the land he has held since 1996. With all the millions that Keir Starmer has, why is he still taking personal donations and also forgetting to declare some of them properly? Absolutely disgusting
This vote was moved from its position before the PM’s speech to save him embarrassment. A millionaire needs a bung to give his son somewhere quiet to study, which planet is he on ? What a piece of work he is !
I doubt any Labour MP's voted in favour of reversing the cut in this conference vote. This vote was by Labour delegates. Only 1 Labour MP had the guts to vote against the cuts in parliament, and over 50 abstained.
Now hear he was given money for his son’s education, ffs he’s a millionaire. Let’s get Lord and Lady Scrounger out. Vote reform in next years local elections and try to get their candidates out!
Starmer saying if they hadn’t would have caused a market meltdown is rubbish. The inflation busting pay rises cost billions more are more likely to cause a market meltdown. Starmer and ‘Thieves’ shows they are out of there depth
Why not start the cuts in Westminster, breakfast allowance, heating allowance, subsidised bar, and many more.
I don't get my breakfast paid for or my heating, it comes out of my Taxed salary....
Because that really won't make much difference.
Means testing the winter fuel payment can raise billions. What would that raise? A million? It won't have any impact
Pretty populist but won’t gather millions of £’s with that
House of lords 361 quid a day allowance , they go to the bar pick up their money then its off to the sex club in soho - 738 lords x £361 PER DAY EACH = covers the bedroom tax .One lord one day covers 6 peoples bed tax for a month = unclogs the housing market
@@drummingtildeathit will tell them how we feel!
@drummingtildeath well how about they lead by example means test the mps and if they get above the £218 -15p pension credit level they don't get subsidised food and drink in the bars and restaurants that they then pay for with their expenses that's fair isn't it ?
And now he admits to taking £20,000 to pay towards his sons accomodation. The greed of this man is astounding
Wrong, he accepted the use of accommodation worth £20,000 if he had to pay for it, which he didn't. Boris excepted several luxury holidays paid for by donors.
Someone has cleared his mortgage as well. Certainly not Sir Keir.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 Farage has been accepting free private flights to the US worth over £120k
I’m sure mortgage free millionaire family could have afforded to pay for their own accommodation . Starmers screamed no end to the Tories whilst they were in office about all sorts of freebies and here he is he’s happily and hypocritically doing the same . Same trough different colour.
@@stevec6427maybe so, but Farage is not the prime minister.
Free Gear Keir and Co.. everyone is equal; some are more equal than others!
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" George Orwell- Animal Farm. He must have know that Starmer was going to come.
Animal farm, pigs with their snouts in the trough!
Looks like the Labour delegates have more of a backbone then their MP's.
should have a vote to get him out, no confidence,
Worst Governance from Labour party till now
@@noronhasavio7765 workers party was only hope, but people just dont believe in miracles anymore, and its obvious why :(
It won't happen. The party don't want that sort of instability this early on
and so the tax payer will need to pay him for the rest of his life and his predecessor, while the country becomes more of a laughing stock. This isn't X factor it's running a country
Well that's in 4 years time
Labour need to know: THEY CANNOT TOUCH OUR PENSIONERS WITH IMPUNITY!
tories did,,, how many died due to covid mishandling?
@@andyf4292absolutely, which is why labour must be held to a better standard!!
I mean, triple lock still exists
@@andyf4292and protected by labour and their so-called "constructive" opposition
@andyf4292 it wasn't a "mishandling" it was intentional
Starmer OUT! Again he has failed to read the room, his party and the Country. Stop this cruel policey Now
All those expensive glasses and he still can't read the room. What a repulsive fool he is. along with Reeves.
he only just got in! torries are such sore losers
he's owned by Israel. We need every 'friend of Israel' sent packing.
He won't be in for long@bichonbuffo
@@bichonbuffoI'm a Labour voter and Starmer Sutra needs to go.
Get that traitor out of office.
And Reeves and Rayner.
No tories are the traitors
@@James_Doyle83and Starmer is one of them
Starmer has one hand on your wallet...and the other one's giving a V sign!...😮😮
@@James_Doyle83they are all traitors, we just keep replacing one for another
Lord Scrounger should try and get the money back from his mate Macron for them not doing anything about the boats
I can't get my head around this. All this money being spent on hotels etc for people who shouldn't be here and are not welome, and he does this to our pensioners. I watched his smug face with the interview with Susanna Reid. Shame on him.
Very well said.
The French have and will always be our thorn in the side.
He can't. The tories did that deal and gave a contract with no absolute obligations or ways to measure success or failure
@@stevec6427 he can’t get the money back and he won’t stop he benefits to the illegals, which he could and should, because as a small country and lower level of workers, more on benefits than before, we cannot keep this going.
@@stevec6427I wouldn't waste your time in posting facts. These people haven't the capacity to understand facts.
£20,000 for 6 weeks accommodation, what kind of accommodation did he need?!!!
A lot of us have to live on less than that for a year. It’s disgusting!
Just said, he has access to
Chequers, his own home and downing st.
Nope this was a holiday not study
I would guess that if it was £20k for six weeks it would be at least basic acceptable accommodation.
Probably with an iron, a kettle and possibly a Nespresso style coffee machine. A shower maybe even?
I'll do some actual research and get right back to youi.
@@Whatzzzz999 more than 20,000 for a penthouse lol...100,000 ?
Isn't his house big enough and quiet enough , weak excuse from the grifter.
Well said Sharon Graham.❤❤❤🙏
Even if they reverse it the damage is already done. We will never forgive, we will never forget!!!! Get them out!!!!!!!!
They won’t reverse it!! They don’t care
Can I go back into the EU please?
"lol" the public are too thick to remember what the Labour Party has done, give it a few months and all will be forgotten !!
@davidbailey4544 they probably forgot because they were looking at the multiple illegal things that happened in the last 14 years.
@@davidbailey4544 One name Boris Johnson.
Starmer has made a big mistake by stopping the winter fuel allowance for pensioners,this issue will not go away until Starmer is removed for his incompetence
Incompetence makes him look innocent. This is malicious.
@Smith-z8q1r That is going to happen eventually. I will never see a state pension even though I'm paying in for others. We have too many old people so it's going to be the case that it's a means tested benefit like pension credit.
My supervisor in Citizens Advice Bureau suggested the days of the state pension were numbered 20 years ago.
Define incompetence please, as compared to say Liz Truss etc etc?
I am all ears.
If the Unions were really angry they could withhold financial support for the Labour party until they reversed the decision, but they won't of course.
The unions are no longer Labours main source of income. the rich who donate are !!!
Let's be honest, they did this because if the cut goes ahead, this government would be lasting one term and Starmer could be gone within a year.
The unions want to keep Starmer and Labour in power as long as possible. They've proven themselves easy to manipulate
And it would prove the old saying about Labour obeying their union paymasters.
They dont care of unions when they have the allis
Course they won’t, they know they are in for a bumper pay rise every year whilst pensioners and private sector workers pay for it!
This government,are utterly disgusting. A complete disgrace.
they're nothing compared to the last ones, not even close.
Exactly the same
This government is worse than sunak’s by a mile
@riccidolan
They haven't started yet so don't fool yourself
@@riccidolanah yes, and because they're not quite as bad as Hitler, we shouldn't complain right?
It got through parliament because keeping in with Starmer was more important to the Labour sheep MPs than doing the right thing.
Absolutely! Turkey’s don’t vote for Christmas.
The Baby Boomers are the most spoilt and privileged generation in human history, they have the highest debt to society, taking a staggering quarter of a million pounds for each pensioner, they are the private landlords of Great Britain with 41% of pensioners owning 2 or more houses, 85% of baby boomers have voted conservative because of the greedy pensions given by the government, they have destroyed the Earth and taken so much and given nothing back... despicable people.
He democratically threatened members of parliament.
@@matthewmiles9626 Great advert for democracy. Had enough had more collective spine than a tepid jellyfish, what would or could he have done? Take the whip away from most of his members? He would have to compromise.
@@michaelmontagu3979 He's an absolute member and not of the parliament type.
Starmer should be facing a vote of no confidence. Get this arrogant ponce out.
Cope for the next 5 years 😘
Voted Labour all of my adult life, not this time though, voted Green for no other reason that I don’t like Starmer!
We’ve been deceived, I feel betrayed my vote has been abused by that Judas.
@michaelsummerell8618
They don't have a pair between the lot of them..cabinet or back benchers..giving up money and expenses...no chance ...they are in it for themselves..its actually sickening everytime u turn on the news something else has been taken from the citizens of this country to feather their nests ..and stop so much funding going abroad and to people who are illegally in our country...we are a sovereign state..we need to take care of the needs in this country ...then see what help we can send abroad after we get our own affairs sorted..but spending starts here...!!
@@bartram33you basically voted as a no opinion vote 😂😂
Go to a local library to study if Keir's son wanted to study in a peaceful atmosphere , just like I used to do. £20,000 cost is a joke.
Or, if renting somewhere for 6 weeks was somehow completely necessary, pay for it out of your own pocket just like everyone else would have to 🙄
Probably his brother-in-laws back bedroom.
@@mydogeatspuke ...and at a tenth of the cost.
Between May and July, barely 3 months
@@TheAndropoff between the end of may and the middle of July, which is 1.5 months, not 3. Roughly 6 weeks.
He is paid £170K a year and yet he needs someone to buy his clothes. Pensioner being paid £13K a year and he has no problem removing the winter fuel allowance. Shocking that he allows a donor to buy his clothes.
My state pension is £11:502 a year.. my entire income.. I still have to pay for dentist, opticians and clothes.. Starmer gets them gifted.. he's a joke.. no freebies for me.. can't even claim pension credit cus I'm £3 over the threshold.
@@margarethampson9490same.
He’s the epitome of a champagne socialist.
What's needed now is a vote of no confidence in starmer
ha ha ha , dream on loser
How do we do it? If it's through the internet, the computer system will go down.🤣
the party faithful love what they are doing
And replace him with who?
Lammy, Miliband, Rayner, Cooper, Reeves, Thornberry? Is there any Labour MP you'd trust to run a bath, let alone a country?
Fat chance of that. Turkeys don't vote for Xmas
Difficult decisions..... But absolutely non of them will impact or affect any of them 😮
He has dug himself a bigger hole ,bigger than the mystical £22 billion black hole this will never be forgotten by the people or pensioners, to throw them to freeze and possibly die is despicable all the while receiving all the freebies he could is disgraceful and does not represent this country he must go now
Its no Myth or mystery ,it was just covered up as Mps profited from it
be it convid or the mythical " smuggling gangs " money is & has been squandered on migrants & in just 22 months at a billion a month ot mounted up fast
I don't have a problem with what they have done and would vote again
How many thumbs down is Darren getting?
Wasn't the cut only for those who already have enough money to pay their bills?
@@HaiselYT no. Only those who get pension credits will get it,
Reinstate it now
Why? Do pensioners that use the money for their holiday pot or to give the grandkids a good Xmas present really need it. Give it to those who need most by all means, but not to those who don't.
@@redroobarb4562it's the ones that really need it that won't get it by a few pounds over the limit.
Ok rich boy
Change ?
Only change is it is cheaper to buy the Prime Minister than it was under the Tories
The MP's voted in favour of cutting the fuel allowance so who do they represent - not the poorest obviously .
Now the unions should withdraw all funding given to The Labour Party, then and only then will I as a pensioner, rejoin the union having left this year being in disgust with it all. 🥶💀😡🦉
Union members choose to donate a portion of their money to Labour. Union bosses can't unilaterally withhold that.
@@SeanOfEarthMembers of a Union don't have to pay the Political precept so Labour doesn't get their funding.
@@geoffreycodnett6570 we choose to. That's the point. That's why it can't be removed
Unions won't drop their support for Labour due to the new workers rights Labour have in their manifesto to replace rights that the tories removed and they're scrapping zero hours contracts
@@SeanOfEarththey can come out of it
imagine if Starmer suspends everyone that went against him...
It's not binding
There's another way of suspending him...
Gonna need a considerably larger prison 🤔
At this rate he'll be the only one out of prison
Well done. Disgusting how people who have contributed to the country all their life are just tossed to aside like an old toy when they are at their most vulnerable.
I'm still contributing to the country after my retirement as I have an occupational pension and I have to pay tax. But I am by no means well off before anyone starts saying that I have pots of money just because I have a works pension that I worked over 45 years for.
Stop the BBC licence fee to be compulsary. I dont watch biased bbc but am forced to pay very month.
Reading about yet another freebie given to Starmer it doesn’t give me any confidence in his independence from the influence of others
Try looking up Farage gifted private flights. That make's Starmers gifts seem like nothing
@@stevec6427 show me a politician who doesn't ride the gravy train. Self serving is putting it politely for free gear kier and co.
Starmer is more concerned about the Free Sausages he was expecting from Lord Alli. The Pratt should Resign along with his cabinet.
Stop the boats. That'll save the country a few billion 👍
£450,000 bill for each migrant I heard today. Its the definition of insanity!
£66,000 a month on sim cards
Billions in blood money real-estate but your poor go cold. Well done
60% of pensioners are not poor
@@Sam88-l4kThe 40% includes many that aren't counted. Try living on just around £200 a week with Council Tax, gas, electricity and water bills in addition to food plus rent as basics.
The poorest can still claim it. It’s not a good reason to give money to the significant number of pensioners who are already wealthy.
@geoffreycodnett6570 76% of pensioners own their own home. Most are sat on money. They bought property at a time when it was 4 times their salary. Now, it's 10 times in most cases. The biggest worry is the generation in their 30's now who will own nothing.
@@Sam88-l4k Rubbish.
liebour needs to go asap
And be replaced by whom?
The LibDems? Fine, but unlikely to happen.
The Greens? OK; but even less likely.
The Tories? No, they're worse than Labour.
Reform? Certainly not! They're even worse than the Tories and they can't win anyway since, thankfully, they only appeal to a narrow base.
Someone else? Who would that be?
🤣🤣
I’m disgusted that some of the most vulnerable people in society are being put at risk - I live with my mum, who is 70 years old, and we was putting near £300 I the meter to keep her warm - it’s a challenge but it will be done again this year!
I don’t care about me just my mum!
I can’t get a job because, between caring for my mum and son, I left with little time to manage my own illness, never mind go and work a few hours that I’ll end up being punished for so still in the red!
My mum worked a majority of her life and I only stopped working to care for her and this is how she, like many, is treated?
Blame the Tories for cutting welfare consistently and stealing the country’s wealth for a decade…
shes getting an extra 400 quid a year. did she vote for boris or brexit?
Is she not eligible for it given it'll be means tested?
Many pensioners are better off than people working minimum wage ,and a lot of them didn’t give two hoots when the tories attacked the disabled and unemployed. Put on an extra sweater that’s what pensioners “used to say” in snarky Facebook comments just saying 😊
@@kanedNunableshe's getting that money when winters over though
NO CONFIDENCE VOTE.
How does it cost 20 grand for two months of accommodation ? I'd like to stay where they were staying.
a super large percentage of old people are millionaires...
Ever heard of means testing? @@hybridh9702
I was thinking this too. I bet if he was paying for it out of his own pocket it would have been less than 5000
@@hybridh9702Small percentage
An £18 million penthouse in central London
No confidence
If difficult decisions have to be done cut the payments made to MPs Housing costs and payments to cover heating and electricity also cheaper meals and drinks in the House of Commons they don't seem to have to take payments reduced from the Public Purse instead of hurting Senior Citizens and the Disabled as a lot of money could be taken into account. They don't have to take the bitter medicine they dish out to the lower incomes and infirmities.
Well said
If they do not want to pay all pensioners then don't give it to those who pay 40 per cent tax
It isn’t split in the country at all. Everyone thinks he’s wrong
Yeah but it is a sky news report, so she won't be telling the whole truth. Retune to GB News and Talk TV and hear the whole truth.
Unions support for retired working people is so important in the face of gross hypocrisy from Starmer & Reeves
We will always remember this but we will never forgive
How about a vote for a new leader of the labour party?
Keir starmer and sunak puppets for WEF World economic Forum
Rayner would win
@@stevec6427 Not now that she has revealed her true colours
Millionaires cutting pensioners fuel allowance and then having the gall to claim heating expenses for themselves is the pinnacle of disgusting.
Although it will not save much, I do think many of the rules politicians have made for themselves should be reformed, like renting 2nd homes to each other, accepting gifts and donations, claiming expenses for non-job related stuff. The public purse should not be a free for all game of hungry hippos for those able to access it.
'Millionaires....'??
Ha ha.
Have a little look at which politicians and landed gentry including British royal family members stuffed their wealth into tax free bogus Cayman Island company accounts (for example).
This info is readily available to anyone who can be bothered to look for it.
Time to wake up.
Well said sharon ❤
Yeah well said Sharon. |
The Chicago Cubs are definitely due a win.
Starmer , Reeves and Raynor are professional grifters.
Starmer's not going to last much longer
ha ha ha so childish
@@bichonbuffoha ha ha not
Unfortunately 4 years, dread to think what the country will look like...
@@TheAndropoffVenezuela.
Even the Labour Party have had enough of this plantpot.
If the rumours are true, Starmer will be disgraced and gone very soon.
I pray to God every day
@@LMC5690 let me know how that goes! 😂
No he won’t
What rumours from where?
Dictators don't go so easily
A vast majority of the public are totally against cutting the winter fuel payments.I hope the Unions reduce funding to Labour.
How about mp's giving up there lunchtime food allowance between £15 -£30 day, maybe more now!!!. Get in the real world and buy there own lunch like the rest off us
It’s not the donations ( gifts ) it’s what is expected in return.
I think the damage is done...especially to those that were reliant upon the winter fuel payment!
oh god the poor little torries are upset
‘Grease My Palm` Starmer. Disgusting! No one, not even a Lord, gives out £20 000 without expecting something in return.
So where’s Starmer? Hiding like Boris? 🤬
In the USA right now.
Obviously, he has better things to do with himself
He does tend to bugger off when things happen he doesn't like
The Snake slithered away
Handling his sausage.
Starmers abuse of donations beggars belief. Now £20,000 so his 16 year old son can study peacefully when he is a millionaire. I hope the press keep digging and digging.
They are the ones with a semblance of dignity and community in the Labour Party
If they need to save money take away the heating allowance from all mps it shouldn’t be a thing in the first place they can more than afford it out of their paycheque.
If the unions are serious then threaten to stop subsidies to the Labour Party, they might listen then
And now he want's to harm the vulnerable on sick benefits he want's to take away their benefits put them straight back in to work being unreliable drugged up and pain mentally unwell
Give starmer the boot
just the fraudsters
@@bichonbuffo He said all the long term sick and all the people on short term sick and the sausages
@@bichonbuffoNo. It will be more difficult for everyone and they’ve said so, straight out.. they’re quite proud of their mean spiritedness.
To be fair their are lots claiming for supposedly mental health issues when covid first appeared. And still receiving straight into their bank, so don't have sign on or look for work. And still claiming four years later given no one has bothered to reassess or check up on them. There is a young person near where I live claimed mental health issues when eighteen, now twenty two & never looked for work or intends to..and there are thousands doing the same. Living with parents but will receive winter fuel payment because they are supposed mental ill.
The really mentally ill do decidedly need to be cared for...bit these youngster who have never paid a penny into this country but live a life of Riley on benefits.
This labour party are going to regret all of this in the future, they will never be forgiven by the British working class.
Now for a vote of confidence in Starmer.
That was!
Your both idiots
Grow up 😂
@@obiwanjabroniXsays the grown man who watches Star Wars lmao virgin
General election
We all knew the real Labour members wouldn’t sit by and take this cold government’s choices, always stand up to starmer and his cronies
How embarrassing, not really a much of a surprise
They will still go ahead with the cuts they are disgustingly ministers A disgrace 😵💫😵💫
What about the 1950’s women’s pension debacle?
Double the pain!😢
That will be abandoned now
I’m one of them, but I think they will just blank it. They will hide behind the equalities act,and say this was done to make men and women equal which is important. But
I don't see why 1950's women are different to everyone else who has had the pension age raised from when they started working. When I started working, my retirement age was 65, now it's been raised to 68 and it'll probably go up again
@@stevec6427
It’s because they weren’t given enough notice. It went from 60-65 then 66 rapidly. Some women retired in their late 50s with health issues etc, with company pension thinking the lump sum would last a couple of years till they get their state pension. Then it was implemented with speed, and the woman’s planning was now in a mess. They didn’t give people enough notice, that’s the issue.
Now they just need to get rid of Starmer. He has ruined the Labour Party and he will carry on destroying this once great country.
Surely The house of ‘Commons’ is now a contradiction in terms! How many of them live like commoners? Feel what it’s like to worry how they can pay even the most basic of bills, make the hardest of decisions like our pensioners this winter whether to pay for food or heating! Whilst they luxuriate with all the ‘BENEFITS’ they themselves receive…. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach!
Get the traitor starmer out!!!!
Labour the new definition of ABHORRENT!
"AndrewSinclair-bk9ho" the new definition of village idiot?
there's no coming back from this one Starmer ... the Labour Party is nothing without the backing of the Unions!
Starmer ought to try living on a pension only. Two tier has a wage and an expense account, never mind freebies. I’m alright Jack Labour. Reform needed……
Vote Reform
maybe 70% of pensioners shouldnt have voted tory the last 14 years. reform are turbo tories ya div.
Well most pensioners have decent assets as they lived through a time when property was only 4x their salary instead of 10 like now
Wish I never gone to work or bought a house should have travelled to France and come over the channel
@catherineoconnell5298 what and sit in a building to receive £49.18 per week and wait for an asylum claim for years.
Show me one single person who agrees pensioners should have their heating cut. What utter rubbish . Take it off the wealthiest and get them to donate all their freebies and donations to the poorest. Starmer is a psychopath.
He got enough in freebies to pay for a few dozen pensioners heating over the winter. 😂😂
If the government is really short of cash why not dump HS2?
It should never have got of the ground that was all down to Liar Blair
They have. Only got halfway......32 billion to get from London to Leeds has ended with120billion spent and only got to Birmingham. Sunak stopped it when he took over.
@@Clem_Fandango11 stopped far too late! Johnson had a chance to stop it a couple of years or so ago! The Whole Rail Network plus rolling stock could have been upgraded & renewed for far less
@@kennethcartwright8561 Absolutely agree. There was no need for this pointless vanity project.
They may have voted against it but it won't change a thing, Reeves will still go ahead with the measure
good it needs doing - but they should look at the cutoff level and phase it out. No pensioner with more than average income needs it
According to Prolific London, Sir Keir has a net worth of around £7.7 million, however, they share it could rise to between £10m and £15m when “taking his other revenue streams into account and the land he has held since 1996.
With all the millions that Keir Starmer has, why is he still taking personal donations and also forgetting to declare some of them properly? Absolutely disgusting
General strike now
How long before this sleazy Government are kicked out ? Vote Reform at every opportunity and hope that there's something left to save.
I’m shocked to learn that people voted Labour as they thought they would stop the boats.
They what more BOATS !!
i dont give a fk about some boats.
Nah we just wanted the stinky consetvstives out tbh
@@kanedNunableit’s the invaders on the boats….
According to the polls, it was to get tories out mainly
This government is going to be toppled
Good. 😅😅
The unions have got Labour in a strangle hold, the vote should have been an overwhelming No , instead of that it was just a tick in the box !!!
Well done those who voted to overturn this miserable policy.
Is Starmer the biggest snake oil saleman of the lot?
No he's just the biggest snake!!
Kier is the best PM we have had this century
@bich😂onbuffo
It's plain old bribery and corruption, so why don't we just call it that when rich politicians accept "gifts"?
Make her prime minister
Despicable monsters in the labour governent
Maybe 2 tier can get some blankets donated
It won’t make any difference. Starmer says he’s in charge. So it goes ahead.
Spot on.
So what's the point of putting a motion forward, winning the vote and then nothing being done 🤔
This vote was moved from its position before the PM’s speech to save him embarrassment. A millionaire needs a bung to give his son somewhere quiet to study, which planet is he on ? What a piece of work he is !
Yes - a pretty pointless exercise!
If this is true its one in the eye for starmer at least some labour mps have morals more than can be said about starmer and his cabinet
I doubt any Labour MP's voted in favour of reversing the cut in this conference vote. This vote was by Labour delegates. Only 1 Labour MP had the guts to vote against the cuts in parliament, and over 50 abstained.
Now hear he was given money for his son’s education, ffs he’s a millionaire. Let’s get Lord and Lady Scrounger out. Vote reform in next years local elections and try to get their candidates out!
The unions should withhold money.
Starmer saying if they hadn’t would have caused a market meltdown is rubbish. The inflation busting pay rises cost billions more are more likely to cause a market meltdown. Starmer and ‘Thieves’ shows they are out of there depth
There is reason why Labour has been out of power for 14 years,
Who is telling kier his choices r good...This fool needs to be dropped and quickly....
Isn’t Blair his aide or something? That might explain why.
Blair
Nobody gives that sort of money without wanting something in return.. all freebies to MP''s should be stopped
A safe place for his son to study, very poor excuse Starmer.
Every Labour has to face the wrath of the people now!!!
Bravo unions
Starmer and the chancellor should resign.Dispicable policy and politics.
They should all resign traitors
Starmers WEF mates