U.2 is for Enterprise Servers. This M.2-U.2 Adaptor -Ninja - 1150
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- If you want to run NVMe super fast flash storage in your high end server. The drives are called U.2 this enables you to put 24 flash drives in the front of your server.
They are a bit expensive, so to get a bit of a taste of it, I got an adapter that will present a M.2 to a server as a U.2. And with this latest Gen3 the connector is compatible with SATA, SAS and NVMe
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U.2 drives / devices are usually a raid of SSD internally (At least the ones I "played" with), why they are so bloody expensive. You can also feel it when handling them; they are basicly jammed filled solid pieces of memorychips. They present themselfes at a single device outside with blistering IOPS. The raidpart should make them much more fault tolerant as you should be able to get a warning before they fail terminally. I build 6 database servers with 2 in each (always fun to build servers with drives where each drive representing a decent used car in value) a 4-5 years ago, during my tenure there (3 years) 2 of the failed completely without warning basicly just turning into very expensive paperweights.. Have them sitting at my desk as a warning to future me's about it way better to go for very high speed and servicable redundancy (SSD SAN with highspeed fiberchannel) compared to unserviceable single point of failure blisterings speed items without seatbelts...
Hi Anders Jensen
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There is something similar to M.2 for servers. It is EDSFF e1.s. It is not directly compatible with an NVME or other M.2 socket, don't try inserting that in there!! What makes it similar is that it uses PCIe for the connection. But the socket is most likely wired differently than that for M.2. These EDSFF drives come in e1.l (the longer "ruler" format). Do a bit of searching and you will also find that these may come with heatsinks of varying sizes. That may limit the number of them that may be used in a system just because of the extra physical space they will occupy. These are intended for enterprise and datacenter use. You can get an adapter card for them and use them in a PCIe x4 slot. Some of these are gen 3 drives so don't expect the best speed. If you want that it will cost considerably more and that is assuming that a faster one is available. These drives although often x4 can be x8 (probably for future use).
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Intel has EDSFF and Samsung has NGSFF, both being a "ruler format" SSD that slots into the front of few models of Supermicro server SSG-1029P-NMR36L
If they are not in the bigger brands,, they do not matter :-/
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Get yourself a 4 way u.2 nvme pcie splitter card, cost isn't bad ~$150, and u.2 nvme can be had around $50-$100 if you look around the bay, lots of newer, older stock servers, can support these now in the front bay. The dell r630 has been plentiful recently and fairly cheap and support 4x u.2 nvme in front of chassis, I have seen them as low as $400, pretty reasonable!
I need to look in to that..
Front mounted M.2 is coming in the form of EDSFF.
Humm I had not see that,,looks interesting.
would be slightly worried with nvme ssd in there, they can get pretty hot and doesnt look like it would be able to cool itself very well
From the looks, it will dissipate heat using thermal conduction through 4 screws of the U.2 case → PCIe board PCB Copper GND plane → PCIe bracket → PC case, interesting to see if it works as designed though, maybe copper GND plane is too thin to conduct heat efficiently enough.
Yes,, but if the M.2 could touch the Alu. box and be cooled that way,, I think it would be fine.
This video needed to be made. Thanks mate.
Hi Pow
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sadly the u.2 format as long as i know is only Sata/SAS or only PCIe/NVMe as there is no logic splitting the sata/NVMe stuff. also these u.2 adapters are made only for pick one for use, not both.
You might also want to check out U.3 as it is the better successor and is using a Tri-Mode Controller that allows the use of all types of storage (NVMe/SAS/SATA).
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I don’t expect you to read/answer this but I have a question. Can you also put 2.5” SATA drives on them? Physically and connector wise it should work but will they get detected?
I have no idea,, I got this for the U.2 disks,, proboly to expensive for SATA's
Nice video
Thank you!
你的视频很有趣。我甚至买过PCIe x16 转4个U.2的扩展卡！简直是疯狂！
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Please keep to English.
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@@MyPlayHouse I'm sorry to comment in simplified Chinese. I would have thought that seeing a foreign audience in the comments section would have made you feel a little happy. I mean I once bought a similar PCIe 3.0 x16 adapter card that could support four U.2 NVMe SSDs. However it required an additional SATA power supply. Also, JEYI is one of our local brands that doesn't make very rigorous stuff in my opinion, and their quality isn't the best. By the way, the connector for your U.2 PCIe adapter is from Amphenol and should be of good quality. Have a nice day! :)
I love these things and will try it in my Lenovo test server
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@@MyPlayHouse Morton always ;-)
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Hi, I have one pcie slot in motherboard. I need to put 8x U.2 disk on this one pcie slot. Is there some hba card that do this?
I think there are U.2 controllers,, but I think it is cheaper for you to get another motherboard :-/ they are not cheap.
Cool! Do you have to boot to them via uefi? Or ahci enabled in bios?
System needs to support "bifurcation"
Cool
Hi simo9445
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Hey Morten, does the M.2 work with HP DL360 Gen9 ?
I am almost sure it does!
pci-e bifurcation i think is the feature motherboard needs to split pci-e x16 to x8x8 or x4x4x4x4 .. or x4x4x8.. as nvme is x4 in bios choose all x4 to use with 4way pcie to nvme adaptercard.. else you need an adapter that can do hardware raid with those nvmes connected, such adapters are more expensive
Yes,, My Server does not support that..
the mkt is still sort of a mess but the cavalry is on the way with regards to i/o - smb sector wants nvme partnered with faster networks and using cheap scalable nodes, net fs and mysql clusters - it provides redundancy and scalability with fast roi and lower tco - opnsense/selks/qemu/kvm/debian. also zen4 is going to be so much more efficient that the refurb long tail will be sig shortened - it will make sense to upgrade just for ipc gains and power effciency soonish - the next 1-2 years. we are on the road somewhere and server and mkt consolidation will be the norm. meanwhile the qubit race runs in the background.
a big factor and pita is that you need to vet your platforms and see if it is possible to boot to nvme and nvme arrays - build a 100g potato router and find a cheap platform that will run nvme array and 100g - the connectx cards are pretty reasonable but again you have to have a modern platform to pair it with - smb should skip 10g/25/40gbe and go straight to 100gbe #sonic #cluster overhead #bluefield #sth #50m iops 8 node cluster - why wouldn't anyone want this? #mkt impacts
Hi shep husted
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Possibly because that many drives would over populate the managing control chips in place currently...?
reminds me that I never did get any U.2 drives.. wonder if they will really become a thing.
Had the same issue that just 1 drive apperaed. Solved it in BIOS (Asus X99 Chipset) settings to set the PCIE Slot in manual mode on X16 (4x4). In Automode I always had just one drive. Maybe it helps on some other boards too.
Ahh only the very newest servers has that option :-/ Thank You..
so this allow you to put 4 nvm in and old let says hp z820 "2650v2" thats doesnt have bifurcation? thats cool ty
I have not been able to test it yet :-/
@@MyPlayHouse Ty
5:10 Yes but is it even as fast as a u.2?
I do not know.
Hello. Could you please tell me about HPE dl160 gen10. If I put in a bay M.2 disk through U.2 adapter does it work?
Sorry,, I have never seen the DL160 Gen,,,, well any of them :-/
My guy just ruined the end of a classic film for no reason😢
Sorry to hear that :-/
bifurcation, -I have brought a batch of the dual NVMe to SAS looking sleds and planning to use them within my 24 bay DS2246 netapp arrays, moves me past the 2TB spindle drive limit/slot and allows for up to 16TB per slot.. if I only had the money to fill with 48 8TB NVME/SSD sticks. :D
Hi Martin Washington
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myplayhouse why u even brother adding screws into m.2 hdd case?i seen people just using strong tape to close strongly and it works fine fine
I do not know,, but I did :-)
i have a second gen i5 2500 on an old gaming case i have and i converted it to my local nas and game library on win server2019 andwaiting for my 10 gig cards .. ive put a raid controller inside for sata 6gb and i ma planning to put 10 tb drives on raid what do you thing of my build also i have a first gen 3650 lenovo server rock solid was running for over 10 years
Hi TtropicalGamer66
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Hi you tested no win 10 work U.2 ssd or pic espres?
No this was Server 2022
Is there an Sata U.2 drive or device that can drive two NVMe onto a single Sata connector
Not as I have seen it,,, But I did this video years back : ruclips.net/video/5eS9HZeZtvg/видео.html
Might be what you are looking for.
@@MyPlayHouse Thanks Morten
They make ruler nvme server drives.
Those very long ones?
There's U.3 now so u.2 is old :P
I think they are still U.2,,, just Gen3
@@MyPlayHouse not really. U.3 within u.2 spec and supports hot swap. Although you can use u.3 drive in u.2 slot but you can use u.2 nvme in u.3 slot.
Also u.3 provides ability to put sata, sas or nvme ssd without changing backplane. U.2 Will work only with nvme
Losing the point with this though, M.2 generally has less life than a U.2 drive.
Is that why you should buy U.2 ?
ah ha I dated one 12:29 wish I knew it back then would been funny
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SAS 15K is still probably faster
Faster than what? Nothing flash based, in any measure.
They can be fast,,, but NO,
Waste of money.
ssd upto 500MB/sec sata3
M. Upto 6GB/sec
Lan 10Gb/ 1GB/sec
You dont need more date write/read more then 1GB/sec( on fastest 10Gb lan link)
ssd more realibe abd less power then the fasteset mv .
Dont need pci-e card or this disk
Well we are only aloud to driver 130km/h anywhere in this country,, I still want a better car than that.
For internal tasks you can benefit from the 8GB/sec that the U.2 can do. and now a days we put 25Gbit network cards in,, and you can use more to get more throughput.
@@MyPlayHouse if you have ssd at 500MB/sec . The server can store the data in use at memory. Use big and fast never will be good.
The old pc like spectrum use 48KB-128KB and work fine.
The best server - ssd( more realible then u2/mv and less power conu) and fast cpu.
The fastest lan card you can buy today is 10Gb/sec ( twice ssd speed) .
even on gpu market , more 4GB ram is useless.
@@orencomputerelectronics8751 I don't know what world you've been living in. Network is not the only consumer of data from a drive, if you want to process big data sets a fast disk can store more data than can fit in any single machines memory. A bank of 24 nvme disks can approach the real world throughput of 8 channel memory in a modern server too. So you could have 100TB of data accessible at almost memory speeds by using nvme disks.
As for 10Gbe being the pinnacle of Ethernet... I can buy equipment for a few dollars that will do those speeds that is so old it's no longer in support.
An Epyc server can feed memory with data from disks at > 150GB/s, and ethernet at 200Gbit plus is starting to become generally available. Hell, even PCIe over fabric at multi gigabytes per lane is a thing now.