I like the idea of mixed heritages. I once had a half-orc cleric that wanted to learn more about his mother’s people. Culture shock abounded, but I had a lot of fun being a healer with occasional bouts of hyper violence.
I think it's worth pointing out that in 2e, Paizo have updated the heritage's "source" beyond just in-breeding. Tieflings can be created just by exposure to evil planar forces before birth and are thus not always a sign of sexual relationships with outsiders. In addition, Tiefling influence can linger in bloodlines like a recessive trait and then manifest many generations later. It seems like this purpose is to provide character options that don't imply some degree of sexual violence in the immediate family. That this is true does not change peoples' perceptions of Tieflings of course. Cheliax's treatment of Tieflings is clearly made more ignorant with this change.
Thanks for pointing out, and its true that Paizo is always updating their lore, so not only might I miss stuff, but all my content may eventually be out of date and inconsistent with current canon!
Is the possibility of working like a recessive trait specific to Tieflings or dose it apply to special bloodlines in general? I'm currently working on the backstory of an Ifrit Dwarf and that would increase the number of options for his ancestry.
@@simonO712 I believe that's how Paizo is doing things now. In addition, the rework may provide new information as they are changing what tieflings and aasimar are called and how they work mechanically.
You talked about even some races I had no knowledge of, but you didn't talk about the Suli. They would have fit in with the elemental races. Overall I am enjoying your work, and they've given me several ideas for characters. Keep up the good work.
The first character I made was a fetchling and I've been struggling to find much on their lore so I really appreciated this. I'd love to see more on the four horror bloodlines at some point. But there's a lot of other videos to get through first :D
Keep going mate. Love it. I really enjoy when you show things on a map. More of that please. What might be cool is ap summaries and where that has left the world in 2e....
30 years of Rolemaster player getting into Pathfinder and its world.. so thease videos are great! Thank you. Dhampir Scoundrel-Dandy-Rogue.. who wants to climb the sosial ranks.. here I come.
@@TheMythkeeper Thanks. It really is so different. Pathfinder has Heroes, so powerfull charracters. Im used to low fantasy, historical settings (little modified to include magic rarely) for decades. Cautiously exited.
@@SinSorrowEU Just remember that though the world is populated by vast and powerful heroic and unheroic figures alike the vast majority of people are non-magical normal folks just trying to survive in a crazy world.
i thought Fetchling was like, an in-world derogatory term for shadow-related ancestries, isn't Kayal their own name for themselves? Not asking for a gotcha moment, just genuinely curious cuz if i'm wrong then i have no idea where i got that from lmao either way, fantastic videos man, been loving the content so much, you're truly a gem of quality in a sea of very poorly researched lore channels, keep it up !
Kayal is a term they use, but I think that's just 'Fetchling' in their own language. I don't think Fetchling is derogatory, just the Taldan or Common tongue word for their people. Or you might be right and I missed that in the lore!
@@TheMythkeeper i easily could have head cannoned it and forgot it was head cannon, i've done that a couple times honestly 🤦 did some googles and i can't find a Paizo source, just a lot of other people kinda speculating it as derogatory like me lol i might have to crack open the ARG to be safe. either way man, thanks for the reply, and keep up the amazing content.
@@TheMythkeeper "Some members of the race also take offense at the name fetchling, as it was given to them by humans who saw them as little more than fetchers of rare materials from the Shadow Plane. Most fetchlings instead prefer to be called kayal, a word borrowed from Aklo that roughly translates to “shadow people” or “dusk dwellers.”" -Advanced race guide pg108
In the recent Player Core, the names "Tiefling" and "Aasimar" have been dropped, with all persons displaying Outer-Plane traits being labelled as "Nephilim." Of course, certain individuals still look fiendish and others celestial, so I imagine much of the stigma remains. Only, how with a new dimension, because the "fiendish" looking individual may be of angelic descent and the "celestial" one actually has the blood of demons in their veins.
@@TheMythkeeper I'm really hoping you will; I enjoy hearing your comments on this stuff. Also looking forward to the Player Core 2 coming out in August to reintroduce Dhampir and Duskwalkers. Plus, a new Bloodline too!
I'll be taking a break from ancestries, but as always if there's something you want, let me know. Coming up next will be a series of videos on Gods & Religion. 🙂
... Hmm I am curious why Tieflings would not be Prized, Elevated Status, being closer to the God of Cheliax? Why would they not be Nobles, as opposed to Slaves? Just saying, especially with the propensity and traits from their Devil / Demon blood? What would stop a Tiefling from establishing their own Noble Bloodline with the goal being to achieve a form as close to Asmodeus as possible, so as to be a better Servant of their Dark God?
This is a question I get asked a lot. It seems unusual right? I think this has to do with Asmodeus' own attitude towards his lesser demons. Typically Tieflings are not descended from Asmodeus himself (nor even from any of the upper devils) though admittedly if they were they might well be held in high regard. Remember Asmodeus encourages those that exert their power and dominance over others, so Tieflings are most often the result of a Diabolist (usually male) binding a Succubus or other fetching lesser devil to his service. The by-products of such unions are then considered to be 'bindable' in the same way that summoning magic in which lesser devils are bound is permissable in the faith. In short - Asmodeus created the lesser devils explicitly for use by his living faithful - and tieflings are derivatives of those. That make sense? That said, its a big world, and a Tiefling noble bloodline is totally possible.
@@TheMythkeeper That is important information for distinction. Being that the lesser Devils are to be used by the faithful of Asmodeus. The tenant of exerting your will onto others also gives that a lot more frame of reference. And under those conditions, I can absolutely see how Tieflings would essentially be seen as Slave-born, versus Noble. To achieve that a Tiefling would have to dominate their parent, then establish themselves. Or, as you hinted at a Tiefling born of the Higher Devils.
Good vid. I suppose it's just me, but for the longest time some of these names threw me. For example, when I first heard the term tiefling, it reminded me less of someone touched by the Lower Planes, and more like some kind of cutesy fey creature. Likewise a fetchling sounded more like a wizard's construct. I guess all the cool names were taken😅. Regarding Half Elves, I know a lot of people champion them as metaphors for biracial and/or multicultural backgrounds, and that's great. But I've seen way too many players take them just for stat bonuses. I also had to wonder how there could be so many in universe pairings where the elf is perfectly willing to have relations where they know they will outlive partners or any prospective children. A handful I could understand, but enough for an entire subspecies?
Honestly I think this is just a quirk of D&D because Elrond in LotR was a half-elf and he was a popular character, so many players in early D&D wanted to play one. I think if a different fantasy novel had been at the center of the zeitgeist in the 70s we'd have a very different 'standard set' of ancestries.
Will there be a kitsune episode one day? I just started playing Pathfinder and my GM, (I finally escaped forever DM guys!!) Cannot find much information on the kitsune race I chose for my character!
So the oread are kinda stone people but here's a question could one instead of being normal stone end up kinda metallic or dare I imagine have a obsidian sheen to their skin?
Obsidian is a type of naturally occuring mineral (volcanic glass actually) and not a type of metal, so definitely an obsidian-skinned oread is a possibility. I also think it's possible for Oread's to have flakes of iron ore because that's also naturally occurring but you wouldn't get steel on an Oread because that's worked metal.
@@TheMythkeeper hmmm now I can't help but imagine a Dwarf with Obsidian skin and a kaleidoscope of gemstones as hair. I'm so gonna have to use that somehow.
A duskwalker has a bloodline connection to the Psychopomps of the boneyard. I failed to discuss them here, but I do have a video on the psychopomps coming in the near future!
NPC concept: An aasimar bard of angel descent, who specializes in songs that can calm emotions and aid in meditation. 50 XP to the player who groans first.
Exception: The Nation Tianjing is composed of mostly Aasimar. Other than that, it's true it's rare for Aasimar to have their own settlements.
Thanks for pointing that out!
I like the idea of mixed heritages. I once had a half-orc cleric that wanted to learn more about his mother’s people. Culture shock abounded, but I had a lot of fun being a healer with occasional bouts of hyper violence.
I think it's worth pointing out that in 2e, Paizo have updated the heritage's "source" beyond just in-breeding. Tieflings can be created just by exposure to evil planar forces before birth and are thus not always a sign of sexual relationships with outsiders. In addition, Tiefling influence can linger in bloodlines like a recessive trait and then manifest many generations later. It seems like this purpose is to provide character options that don't imply some degree of sexual violence in the immediate family. That this is true does not change peoples' perceptions of Tieflings of course. Cheliax's treatment of Tieflings is clearly made more ignorant with this change.
Thanks for pointing out, and its true that Paizo is always updating their lore, so not only might I miss stuff, but all my content may eventually be out of date and inconsistent with current canon!
Is the possibility of working like a recessive trait specific to Tieflings or dose it apply to special bloodlines in general? I'm currently working on the backstory of an Ifrit Dwarf and that would increase the number of options for his ancestry.
@@simonO712 I believe that's how Paizo is doing things now. In addition, the rework may provide new information as they are changing what tieflings and aasimar are called and how they work mechanically.
@@a_pet_rock I see, thanks!
You talked about even some races I had no knowledge of, but you didn't talk about the Suli. They would have fit in with the elemental races. Overall I am enjoying your work, and they've given me several ideas for characters. Keep up the good work.
There are so many races! I tried to cover as many as I could! Eventually I'll get to Suli and Samsaran and many more!
I love all the brad rigney art in this one
He's great ;-)
The first character I made was a fetchling and I've been struggling to find much on their lore so I really appreciated this. I'd love to see more on the four horror bloodlines at some point. But there's a lot of other videos to get through first :D
A great quickie on so many fantastic characters. It shows you are truly interested in this setting. Have a glorious day everyone! Thanks for the vid.
Keep going mate. Love it. I really enjoy when you show things on a map. More of that please.
What might be cool is ap summaries and where that has left the world in 2e....
Yeah I love that idea and I think once I get through ancestries and religions that's definitely up there in terms of things I want to cover.
Playing a Dhampir MC in WotR now and this really helps me get into the roleplay. I hope you get a chance to delve into the specific bloodline sources.
Thanks so much!
30 years of Rolemaster player getting into Pathfinder and its world.. so thease videos are great! Thank you. Dhampir Scoundrel-Dandy-Rogue.. who wants to climb the sosial ranks.. here I come.
Dhampir Dandy is a great concept. Welcome to Pathfinder!
@@TheMythkeeper Thanks. It really is so different. Pathfinder has Heroes, so powerfull charracters. Im used to low fantasy, historical settings (little modified to include magic rarely) for decades. Cautiously exited.
@@SinSorrowEU Just remember that though the world is populated by vast and powerful heroic and unheroic figures alike the vast majority of people are non-magical normal folks just trying to survive in a crazy world.
Good stuff dude. Keep it up!
Good stuff Myth Keeper, keep the myth comming! :-)
That one picture of an tiefling is just straight up an harlequin
that artwork at 13:05 soo good
Thanks! artstation.com has been my best friend for making these videos.
I mainly came here for Ganzi, yet the other Ancestry law is very intresting.
i thought Fetchling was like, an in-world derogatory term for shadow-related ancestries, isn't Kayal their own name for themselves?
Not asking for a gotcha moment, just genuinely curious cuz if i'm wrong then i have no idea where i got that from lmao
either way, fantastic videos man, been loving the content so much, you're truly a gem of quality in a sea of very poorly researched lore channels, keep it up !
Kayal is a term they use, but I think that's just 'Fetchling' in their own language. I don't think Fetchling is derogatory, just the Taldan or Common tongue word for their people. Or you might be right and I missed that in the lore!
@@TheMythkeeper i easily could have head cannoned it and forgot it was head cannon, i've done that a couple times honestly 🤦 did some googles and i can't find a Paizo source, just a lot of other people kinda speculating it as derogatory like me lol i might have to crack open the ARG to be safe.
either way man, thanks for the reply, and keep up the amazing content.
@@TheMythkeeper "Some members of the race also take offense at the name fetchling, as it was given to them by humans who saw them as little more than fetchers of rare materials from the Shadow Plane. Most fetchlings instead prefer to be called kayal, a word borrowed from Aklo that roughly translates to “shadow people” or “dusk dwellers.”" -Advanced race guide pg108
@@kiba1390 Thank you so much for the correction! I somehow missed this in my research! Appreciate it!
@@TheMythkeeper No problem! I'm glad I could help.
In the recent Player Core, the names "Tiefling" and "Aasimar" have been dropped, with all persons displaying Outer-Plane traits being labelled as "Nephilim." Of course, certain individuals still look fiendish and others celestial, so I imagine much of the stigma remains. Only, how with a new dimension, because the "fiendish" looking individual may be of angelic descent and the "celestial" one actually has the blood of demons in their veins.
Maybe after Remaster has been out for a minute I'll come back to some of these ancestry videos and update them for the new lore ;-)
@@TheMythkeeper I'm really hoping you will; I enjoy hearing your comments on this stuff.
Also looking forward to the Player Core 2 coming out in August to reintroduce Dhampir and Duskwalkers. Plus, a new Bloodline too!
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Why is there an eldari harlequin in the tiefling appearance section?
Those sneaky eldar will try to get into any old vid, won't they?
No more videos on ancestories after the one on orcs? ): Sad. Have you already in mind what to focus on next?
I'll be taking a break from ancestries, but as always if there's something you want, let me know. Coming up next will be a series of videos on Gods & Religion. 🙂
... Hmm I am curious why Tieflings would not be Prized, Elevated Status, being closer to the God of Cheliax? Why would they not be Nobles, as opposed to Slaves? Just saying, especially with the propensity and traits from their Devil / Demon blood? What would stop a Tiefling from establishing their own Noble Bloodline with the goal being to achieve a form as close to Asmodeus as possible, so as to be a better Servant of their Dark God?
This is a question I get asked a lot. It seems unusual right? I think this has to do with Asmodeus' own attitude towards his lesser demons. Typically Tieflings are not descended from Asmodeus himself (nor even from any of the upper devils) though admittedly if they were they might well be held in high regard. Remember Asmodeus encourages those that exert their power and dominance over others, so Tieflings are most often the result of a Diabolist (usually male) binding a Succubus or other fetching lesser devil to his service. The by-products of such unions are then considered to be 'bindable' in the same way that summoning magic in which lesser devils are bound is permissable in the faith. In short - Asmodeus created the lesser devils explicitly for use by his living faithful - and tieflings are derivatives of those. That make sense? That said, its a big world, and a Tiefling noble bloodline is totally possible.
@@TheMythkeeper That is important information for distinction. Being that the lesser Devils are to be used by the faithful of Asmodeus. The tenant of exerting your will onto others also gives that a lot more frame of reference. And under those conditions, I can absolutely see how Tieflings would essentially be seen as Slave-born, versus Noble. To achieve that a Tiefling would have to dominate their parent, then establish themselves. Or, as you hinted at a Tiefling born of the Higher Devils.
Good vid. I suppose it's just me, but for the longest time some of these names threw me. For example, when I first heard the term tiefling, it reminded me less of someone touched by the Lower Planes, and more like some kind of cutesy fey creature. Likewise a fetchling sounded more like a wizard's construct. I guess all the cool names were taken😅.
Regarding Half Elves, I know a lot of people champion them as metaphors for biracial and/or multicultural backgrounds, and that's great. But I've seen way too many players take them just for stat bonuses. I also had to wonder how there could be so many in universe pairings where the elf is perfectly willing to have relations where they know they will outlive partners or any prospective children. A handful I could understand, but enough for an entire subspecies?
Honestly I think this is just a quirk of D&D because Elrond in LotR was a half-elf and he was a popular character, so many players in early D&D wanted to play one. I think if a different fantasy novel had been at the center of the zeitgeist in the 70s we'd have a very different 'standard set' of ancestries.
Will there be a kitsune episode one day? I just started playing Pathfinder and my GM, (I finally escaped forever DM guys!!) Cannot find much information on the kitsune race I chose for my character!
Eventually yes! So many ancestries! Not enough time!
Any chance we can get a video on Goblins and Hobgoblins since they're core and expanded 2e ancestries?
I may get to Hobgoblins at some future point in time, but for now you'll have to settle on my brief discussion of gobbos in the Small Folk video.
So the oread are kinda stone people but here's a question could one instead of being normal stone end up kinda metallic or dare I imagine have a obsidian sheen to their skin?
Obsidian is a type of naturally occuring mineral (volcanic glass actually) and not a type of metal, so definitely an obsidian-skinned oread is a possibility. I also think it's possible for Oread's to have flakes of iron ore because that's also naturally occurring but you wouldn't get steel on an Oread because that's worked metal.
@@TheMythkeeper hmmm now I can't help but imagine a Dwarf with Obsidian skin and a kaleidoscope of gemstones as hair. I'm so gonna have to use that somehow.
In 1E there is a Gemsoul Oread, that has obsidian skin and Crystal hair.
8:01 my face when...
So what is a DuskWalker?
A duskwalker has a bloodline connection to the Psychopomps of the boneyard. I failed to discuss them here, but I do have a video on the psychopomps coming in the near future!
@@TheMythkeeper awesome thank you so much for replying sir! I'm looking to play one for an upcoming campaign and just researching as much as I can!
You neglected the Suli.
Check my latest vid ;-) ruclips.net/video/qm3aDx_-WTM/видео.html
NPC concept: An aasimar bard of angel descent, who specializes in songs that can calm emotions and aid in meditation.
50 XP to the player who groans first.
Such a shame nwn2 did a better job offering raves to play than wotr.