RELAX! Kansas State Basketball is Just Fine
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In today's video, I explain why Kansas State basketball fans should feel fine despite missing out on both Khalif Battle and Clifford Omoruyi.
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He recruits frim the non power 5 schools which have more loyalty than the blueblood programs in my opinion .There are so many fish in the ocean , you WILL catch the right fish that fit.
I think that’s a great point. Missing Cliff and Battle is not the end of the world like people are making it seem, we’ll have some good names added to the roster soon if I had to guess!
Excellent video I agree with all your research and points…I think KState fans are getting too caught up in the rankings and not about who are great hoopers. I knew that when people were sweating about not getting Oumar Ballo lol…I trust the coaches but I wish we would’ve been able to keep Dai Dai and RJ
While I wouldn’t have said this at the time, keeping RJ would have been more likely than keeping Dai Dai. Seems they felt slighted by us adding more guards which was always going to happen to be fair. We’ll get it straightened out but would have been nice to maintain them! Thanks for watching my friend!
People are showing signs of time fatigue. This to will pass when Coach Tang lands his Dude(s). Way to go Joe!
You’re spot on with that brother, portal fatigue is real. Thanks for watching my friend!
The problem is not the quality of the portal class it is the size of the portal class. Not many teams with legitimate hopes of being good next season are going to be taking 9 players out of the portal this season. Bad things generally happen when you have more new faces in a rotation than returners. We will have a team with more than 8 players next season, but I don't expect it to be one that is going to finish in the top half of the conference. We needed some HOMERUNS to give us a chance to make up for the strikeouts in prior classes (everyone that left).
You know, I actually tend to disagree here. I don’t think that because we’re adding a new cast of dudes through the portal that directly translates to missing the tourney or not finishing in the top half of the league. Obviously we’d like to retain more talent when possible but if we’re banking on the development of guys like Dai Dai, RJ, and Art to get us to the tourney and not adding others to that I think you’re going to see a similar outcome to that of last year. That being said, I completely understand where you’re coming from. I think we’ll be fine to be honest. These next two weeks will be crucial for us without question though. Thanks for watching my friend!
No worries. Like you said, it's all on God's timing. Great video.
Thank you so much my friend! I agree 100%! Go Cats!
Next man up
Absolutely brother!
I am curious as Alabama has beat Kansas State head to head on Estrada and now Omoruyi. Is there a common denominator such as NIL or do you think each recruitment should be viewed as a separate process?
Great question! I would view both as separate processes to be honest. While we have swung and missed, I think the staff is still learning best practices and tactics to use in recruitment. With Estrada, that was on Eid the first major battles we were in, and we definitely did not have the money to get that one done. Cliff is a whole different situation. At some point the money goes to the back burner and the kid has to make a choice at which team gives him the best shot at a successful future. There was more risk at K-State so he went to Bama. I don’t think Bama has insane recruiting or anything but they are solid and do a good job of selling dudes in the right direction.
Is there any chance some of our players that entered the portal withdraw and stay at Kstate?
Excellent perspective and analysis. U think That first yr team had alot of "effort guys" that u couldn't measure with how many stars they had? How do they find more of those guys?
Thank you my friend! I think the process is just slow to be honest. It takes time to find the right guys. That being said, Desi wasn’t added to the roster until October from what I remember. It takes time but we’ll get those dudes on the court again!
I’m not sure what some of these fans who’re hitting the panic button expect. Overall, for many years, we’ve been a mediocre program and although I believe that Tang is the best coach to have come here since I’ve been a fan in 1998, he’s still got some work to do as a coach. I really like where this team is headed in its current makeup and I know we’ll get a big or 2 here soon, so let’s just calm down a bit and come back in off the ledge.
Agreed! I think you’re right on the money. Expectations take time to break through. I have no doubt we’ll get some great players in Manhattan but it’s not the end of the world to miss Cliff and battle. Thanks for watching!
Your insane. We have 39 points per game TOTAL right now. There are 20+ power 5 programs with 2+ openings. Also....we can't keep ANYONE. Who is still here that he recruited.
you’re* if I’m insane I’ll at least be correctly spelled. Patience is a virtue, still a lotta time left to build a roster. If we’re sitting here a month later in the same spot, we’ll have a problem. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your perspective Joe. No panic here. I trust our coaching staff. We will get there.
Not a problem my friend! Thanks for watching! I have full faith we’ll like what we see soon enough! Go Cats!
I'm glad you are bringing some perspective here. It's okay to be bummed, but no need to panic about losing out on a player. You are correct. There are a still a lot of good players available in the portal and the four we have brought in so far are studs. I also wonder if some of those folks who get K-State fans riled up on social media aren't just trolls posing as K-State fans. We'll be fine. Go 'Cats!
Great point my friend. It just seems too early to panic to me. Fans are totally entitled to be disappointed or upset but I feel good about the future ahead for us! Thanks for watching my friend!
The sky is full of stars. I do not cont them because they are individual. The true value is what the staff thinks of the fit.You make great points Joe as usual.
Beautiful comment my friend, I think that’s a great way to look at it! Thanks for watching and for the support as always!
I think the biggest worry is that roughly 30ish players in the top 200 guys are left. We got extremely lucky in Tangs first year with Nowell and Keyonte carrying the load. Now we essentially have the same problem as then without a Keyonte/Nowell on the team to elevate the rest. We are relying on Dug to be a 20ppg guy at this point.
Only caveat to what you’re saying is that no one fully expected Quis to be an All-American heading into the season. The thing is that basketball isn’t a situation where everything on paper is as good as guys get. It’s like, do we know for a fact that CJ Jones or Brendan Hausen aren’t going to be 15 PPG type players? I think it sounds nice in theory to say we don’t have a Quis or Key on the team but in reality, heading into 2022-23, I think the narrative would be the same of unproven players and question marks that pan out. We were fortunate to see how incredible Quis and Key were but to say that we know for a fact we don’t have one of those type of dudes on our team isn’t accurate because no one knows.
I hope that came off right lol, I don’t mean to say those aren’t valid concerns, but we have an equal chance at getting lucky that we do at getting unlucky. The staff has more time ahead and I expect us to get a few more proven dudes in the building and we’ll be fine! Thanks for watching my friend!
That’s a very good point. Growth year to year is unknown, and who knows how CJ/Hausen/Buddy rich improve with more min/substantial role. My worry, to play devils advocate here,is that it’s requiring a lot to go right all at once. Unless we add some more top end talent here quickly, we are hoping that 3-4 role players each take a significant step up production wise. I trust Tangs judgement/decision making. But I can see why some are worried more than others
@@popp454 true that. I think that’s a very fair question to ask. We’ll have to see how it works out!
I'm not nearly as worried about our G play as I am our frontcourt.
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Great reporting!
Thank you so much!
I’m Back 😅 I don’t mind putting this out there because I’m crazy 😅 But anyone who wants to come to KState and don’t have the “MAMBA” mentality on both ends of the floor find somebody else to play with.
Hey I’m all for finding some dudes out there that fit the description! Thanks for watching!
Need to cast a wide net in the portal when you have such a short amount of time to get commitments.
True that, we’ll be alright. I think the next week or two will be big for us! If not, we’ll have a different stance for sure. Thanks for watching my friend!
You have been very good at identifying potential players, imho. I hope our coaches are watching if they haven’t been. Also, I understand going after star players, but K-State has had past success from finding undervalued players or players with upside. Maybe there needs to be a mix?
Thank you my friend! I’ve done an okay job at that so far but primarily most of the targets I’ve featured have already been linked to K-State. To your credit, there’s definitely an even mix of top prospects and guys from smaller schools. I believe the staff is on the right path and will find something great soon!
I trust that Tang and co will get some solid guys, but you can't help but feel that this was a massive swing and a miss, especially if we chased off one of the only bright spots from last year to miss on these guys
We didn’t chase anybody off, Dai Dai left. You saw what his mom said. This was going to happen wether we added Battle or any other guard which we were always going to do. That being said, you’re totally right on the swing and miss. It does stink but I just haven’t felt that bad because there are better players out there linked to K-State. Will we get them, who knows but damn sure we’re going to try!
@@JoeTillery I actually didn't see what his mom said, that does make me feel a little better
Tang snd his staff know how to recruit and will find the players that fit the system.
Spot on!
Great piece. If anyone has looked into who and how many are in transfer portal, they’ll know that there is still ton talent out there. I trust Tang and his coaches to go find the right pieces. Way too early to panic!
Absolutely! Still a lot of time ahead and a TON of good players out there! Thanks for watching my friend!
Joe , I will add this , It's all about the $$$, I never in my lifetime 66 yrs young , a deficated fan since Coach Snyder came aboard ..22 yr game streatstopped last year due to the birth of my granddaughter, bur a new streak starting this year at the Arizona game ! It is sad to see what is happening, it reminds me of free agency in pro sports bur thats where we are .The K State coaches do it the right way period ! If they lost every gama , I would still support them , That' s how dedicated I am.I support Serena Sundell onmany deals , I love her on what she represents.! I have made any deals with her and will be meeting her at the Arizona game. I have been coaching B Ball for 37 years for 37 years and counting ..I have met Coach Snyer , Kendra Wecker , and will meet Serena Sundell. My life is complete! Let's get some love to the girls Mittie Cats !
That’s incredible to hear! The women’s team definitely deserves their flowers, they had an incredible season and I’m anticipating another great one ahead! Thanks for watching my friend!
Any idea on who was the school that offered $2 million to the guy from Rutgers? Nil is ruiing college basketball. I don't even want to watch it anymore.
I’m pretty sure that was North Carolina to be honest
Too many repetitions of I’m not trying to tell you how to feel how to think how to feel.
Thanks pal. I’m doing and saying what I feel. You can watch it or not but what you see from me is what you get.
I didn’t mean for it to be as sharp as it reads. I enjoy the content.
Good stuff Joe! 2000+ guys still in the portal is wild, and its even more wild that a vocal minority on twitter seem to want someone fired or something, probably the same people freaking out when Arkansas came knocking on Tang’s door. Same people who complain that people are leaving in the portal because we recruited over them, and then complain when we don’t get some guys even higher rated than that. Almost like some people just want to complain…. Not saying anyone has to be happy about last season. We definitely don’t have all the information about not only our own program, but the goings on at other programs, we might have lost out on someone because they were duped by misinformation from Chris Beard lol. Sucks, but damn we can’t really control what Chris Beard does, he can’t even seem to do that himself. The assumption on portal guys is that they all leave on their own, when the reality might be they’re “allowed” to leave because the staff is “okay” with them leaving. We don’t have all the information. Just like we didn’t have all the information on Tomlin. We either trust the staff or we don’t. I trust the staff. Just my opinion.
I think that’s a totally valid opinion. Misery definitely loves company, and that’s easy to see when negative things happen. That being said, I think it’s all a patience game. The same people overreacting will be doing backflips when we land the right people. It’s a volatile world in sports but I have faith things will work out for the best soon! Thanks for watching and thanks for the detailed comment!
I do believe they are fine
Preach Ben!