honestly, i doubt it? i can see a couple more people jumping ship after this, maybe one more from en and some of the last of id, but everything else suggests that niji just stops growing, keeps the same few livers doing the same few things for awhile, dies a painful death, and we don't really hear about them until they're already gone i'd love to be proven wrong though, the less people dealing with management this intolerable the better
Which is crazy considering they've been dropping like flies for at least 4 months now. But losing their biggest talents in less than a few weeks... jesus...
@@DeviousHandsyou realize that management has to start from somewhere, right? I don’t think it’s the staff themselves that are responsible solely for this. No, I believe this problem sprouts from the very top: Tazumi himself. To me, his style of ownership and overseeing of the company is almost exactly like a certain former sports team owner that shall remain anonymous.
@@mshake7056 what's so annoying is niji fans/shills will probably try to spin this as being selen's fault, proably after they see this news and run away to avoid backlash
@@connorradcliffe1769 I love Millie and Enna so much but I can't support this crap company ever again and if they were some of the people bullying her I can't support them either. I'm done
@@connorradcliffe1769 I blame Nijisanji since they were in the position of authority and had the ability to do something about the situation, but there probably was fault on all sides. Selen is known to boundary push and circumvent company policy after all, she'd even do it on stream. If the small things Zaion did put her on management's bad side, I bet they hated Selen.
The way they tried to word their way into their favor, like sure only SELEN did the wrongs and you were just following rules. What a horrible company. The fact that their big talents are just graduating and getting terminated left and right speaks so much about them. Welp, Selen is finally free at least, thank god for that.
She tried to end her life how they thought they could spin it as it's her fault for everything including her being bullied is some bs. F that company man
The way *they* tried to word it into their favor? No no no no no no no. Not *they.* *He.* This is no doubt how Tazumi told them to write it or else he’d put their asses on the street. Because he is the alpha and anyone who tries to challenge him must face a cruel fate. If Yagoo had enough courage, he’d gather a team of wealthy men to force Riku Snyder to sell the company. And overhaul everything but the talents.
Selen, we will miss you. Sad to see she got terminated. Wish we can say goodbye to Selen for the last time *o7* At least she's free now... Btw, have you guys heard of this cool gamer called *Dokibird?*
High time she got out of a toxic environment and begin really healing. We just hope she's in a better place now. Now if only Ethyria would follow suit. By any chance, do you know their past lives?
Gonna miss Selen too much. Her smile and laughter literally fills the emptiness in my soul. We just began 2024 and Niji has created a lot cracks that can't be fixed
She's reactivated her past life as Dokibird, so it's not all bad. It could honestly be a good thing, because she was sure getting done dirty by her corporate overlords.
The most disgusting part is that Selen didn't even mention names on her twt abt the harassment yet the company stated " LIVERS " as the one mentioned. What a way to throw your talents under the bus to save yourself 😂😂
Yeah, it's an extremely deliberate tactic. Same thing that the service industry does with tipping culture -- distract people from the employers by making them mad at the employees.
That famous saying in french I don't know if you have the same one in English but : " quand tu veux tuer ton chien tu l'accusé d'avoir la rage " meaning if you want to kill something put the blame on it even if it's not true. Some people in anycolor doing that right now not only to Selen but to the EN Branch. They did it before with ID
thats actually what so concerning, since alot of speculation and rumor was going around against 2 individuals wording it out like that might put them both in a vaery bad situation, and the thing is its not even yet confirmed but i see people blaming those 2 already.
I come back to this video every once in a while... The 0:32 to 0:50 absolutely breaks my heart every single time. Back when nobody knew what was up behind the scene. You can tell how genuine and sad Pomu was and how much she cared for Selen. The Wrestletuber reunion was just so good... Truly a blessing. So glad we still have both of them and that they look much happier than they have been in the last year!
A lot of people didn't mention Selen at that point, either because of contractual reasons, or fear of angering management, or maybe even being a bad actor. The fact Pomu went out of her way to mention Selen despite everything at that point really shows she really genuinely cared.
I love how much their statement proves their own guilt. Like, this is exactly as bad as everyone thought it was behind the scenes, and they provided the proof themselves. Everything they say in this statement is entirely consistent with the harshest possible fan speculation. They dragged their feet and muddled the rights process, Selen talked to the creators directly to get permission from them, management didn't care and privated it anyway. When Selen complained, she was locked out of all socials and terminated. ABSOLUTE POS company, every liver would be better off without them.
yeah the "she didn't have the perm" is the biggest bullshit. Like did Niji think nobody knows lilypichu? like she often watches cover videos of her song on her stream. And even if Selen didn't ask for perms and Anycolour was playing it safe, lily would probably give the greenlight immediately.
@@pegarangeWhat 'stolen assets'? Art was commissioned, music copyright was given, Selen did nothing wrong there, so I'm curious how you'll spin that particular story.
@@pegarange you’re going to have explain further. Cuz I could buy your and Niji’s statements if there was anything specific to mention that permission wasn’t given yet. If 1 or 2 things slipped by, makes sense. But if they dragged their feet as per usual w/ Niji’s failing business practices, then they’re just lying.
But a sneaky bug managed to sneak in to the tournament using the security guard as a skin suit. And a certain musician took the title as the stronger wrestler after being basically a final boss to Battel
Damn i will miss selen i may not of watched many of her streams but i still loved her and her content. Such great character and a great addition to niji.
When millie (or maybe Enna?) Jokingly asked Whos next so she can prepare in kyos graduation announcement, I don't think they were expecting to be answered so soon.
That’s fucked up man. I hope Selen is okay wherever she may be now. Not even getting a graduation or a proper goodbye. I hope she re appears as an indie or in an agency that will treat her better. Either way this whole situation is unfortunate
@@Ole_Rasmussen I guess from if how we gleam the mention of "an attempt" that it was a self harm/deletion attempt that her wanting to do nice small streams since she went quiet may have been what she wanted to do for her own mental health recovery which if being prevented from doing so from niji is a real shitty move amongst many
So, the inevitable finally happened. While I won't say this is the final nail in the coffin for Nijisanji, this is probably the event that will lead to it. If you're hemorrhaging talented employees, it's due to bad management and a toxic work environment. Plain and simple. And in this case, it's so horrendous that it nearly cost the life of one of their best people. When Selen went radio silent for an entire month, I figured that it was probably due to her lawyering up and potentially starting litigation. Seems I was right. Her current statement on her PL account is brief, but very telling. This is far from over. In the meantime, I hope that she finds someplace better, where she can use her intelligence, creativity, and passion to the fullest.
Luckily, she's not letting the kurosanji bs stop her from using her creativity and talent to its fullest. Have you heard of dokibird? She's a vtuber who just announced her return shortly after niji posted Selen's termination notice. If you like Selen, you'll LOVE dokibird. She has a waiting room set up here on RUclips for a stream in a couple days. 😉
Plus if Elira leaves there’s a big chance Millie/Enna/Rosemi goes too… I’m just looking up past lives at this point. That’s all of my remaining favorites right there…
God, seeing this clip and Doki’s Twitter thread is just heartbreaking. Pomu and Selen got me into NijiEn with how creative, funny, and endlessly passionate they were - so hearing how their own company apparently treated them like absolute shit infuriates me to no end. At this point, I am praying that the rest of NijiEn goes on strike or forms a union or _something_ because they deserve so much better than what they’ve been getting right now. My heart goes out to Dokibird/Selen/whoever is behind that avatar, as well as all of her friends who’ve supported her here. I wish her nothing but the best for her safety and health from here on, and I hope that she gets all the support and kindness she deserves. 🙏🙏🙏💜💜💜
The unionization thing _needs_ to be talked about a lot more. The dream situation is a Screen Actors Guild type of organization, where talents can join either across the different companies (even the ones who seemingly treat their talents better and have a meme-ified CEO) or as indies. Would hugely help with better bargains, talent support, and dealing with drama between talents.
I didn't watch Selen as often as other livers but when I did she was such a joy and a total sweetheart, I'm going to miss her so much. I love the streamers at Niji EN, but the management team in charge of Selen can go screw themselves!!
I remember that one particular video where Selen goes "Oh look diamond!" with Pomu, it's my go to video for having a good laugh. Goddayum, this is so abrupt, I am so gonna miss those two 😭
im kinda worried about Rosemi,.to me she is another Selen's best friend after Pomu,.she also sound kinda exhausted in the stream after they announce Kyo's graduation, kinda sound like she about to cry when thanking SC/member gift
She's reactivated her past life as Dokibird, so it's not all bad. It could honestly be a good thing, because she was sure getting done dirty by her corporate overlords. There's an upcoming stream on her account and people are using it as a chatroom to show support.
I find it telling how she said in her statement that she tried to eave more amicably on Jan 26th. I guess management didn't want to do things that way. They knew losing Selen would be such a huge blow to the company that they'd likely never recover, so instead of letting her walk out the door they got it in their heads that demonizing her like that did Zaion was in their best interest. Yeah - big mistake geniuses. Now everything is coming down ten times faster than if they'd just let her leave voluntarily.
I'm really sad because it's really bad for her fans because all of those vods are gone, everyone knows that she was done wrong by them, And The incredibly Petty part of me is saying all the people who thought me and others were crazy for thinking she was being punished thinks that those people should get on their hands and knees and apologize. But Man I thought they would at least try to milk her for the last bit of money that they could get from her.
I still have a bunch of vods that I needed to see... Shit I knew this was gonna happen anyway I was really wishing it would go under a graduation so the vods could stay
Okay, with that being official, I would be willing to put money on Niji EN being closed, entirely, by the end of the year. They have lost so many, not just in EN either, over the last 18 months. Niji EN has been pretty gutted already, so might as well close the doors and let the talents move on to better opportunities than what AnyColor can provide.
Not only that but anyone who works for them that says 'niji i snot that bad' will just earn hate for themselves, actually I'm quite curious if Luca and Millie are going to say anything.
I mean there seems to be an EN talent who bullied Selen? I speculate it might be Luca or Millie due to their previous behavior, or maybe some other EN managers’ poster child, but we have to wait for Selen’s testimony for that. And yes, JP branch-only the top most popular and selling talents that is-is still going super strong here in Japan. Also there are so many Japanese viewers who actually protects Nijisanji for all these recent EN conflicts, and the Western fans’ opinion might as well be considered minority here. This is what JP societal culture is capable of.
@@luk_.armxndii I agree with you. It's definitely not Cover and almost certainly at a black level, but most aspiring Vtuber would chose Niji over any normal 9 to 5 jobs out there(they still make a lot of money even with the sad merchandise commission rate). Heck, even the current me who knew the drama would have actually joined if I feel like I'm entertaining enough(sadly I'm not). Just endure until the contract ends and then go indie with all the cash, fame, connection and knowledge you made after the 2 years of hardship in Niji
If you want to see her you might want to go check out dokibird. She’s over there now and even has a stream planned and like she said it might be a little scuff but who cares.
You can see how she’s doing as dokibird on both RUclips and twitch. She has a return stream planned for the seventh. Let’s try and get her to 100k before her return.
The vitriol contained in the termination document was very palpable. One of the most violent part is the statement that "The other livers are with us on this decision" (paraphrase) I'm not a dragoon but seeing your favorite streamer gets executed like that has got to be painful. I hope for the best out of this ugly situation. Take time off the net if you're feeling extremely bad. And move forward. Support your favorite where and when you can.
Hey selen making a return as doki bird on the seventh go over there and support her. Also spread the word she’s asked her dragoons to spread the news of her return.
Definitely saw the termination coming when Hyte announced the collab with Nijisanji and their choice for Obsydia was Rosemi and not Selen. Any Color, your reputation was ruined the moment Zaion released her docs and the "long breaks" were revealed to be shadow suspensions. The whole doc they released reads like a petty shift blame onto Selen. They shift all the blame onto her. I can only imagine what the internals were like. The poor girl tried to take her own life. That's a very toxic, hostile work environment. Go show the poor girl some love. If you read her Dokibird tweets, it's very heartbreaking.
The fact that Pomu was the only one in Niji (IIRC) who mentioned Selen before the termination announcement started made me strongly believe that they’re still close, and I’m glad that’s the case. 0:39 On a separate note, after everything that happened, I feel like she knew that Selen was hospitalized during her silence but wasn't able to directly say anything about it.
@@kogv4693 I feel like Mumei’s hiatus was more of a happy coincidence, since it can’t be confirmed when exactly she found out. I can believe that Pomu knew before the termination happened (due to inside knowledge), but I can’t confirm if Mumei did until after it was announced. Although, it would still definitely be nice if she did.
Its sad to see some bridges probably burned because of this, but honestly, I'm just glad to have her back. Pomu and Selen have been my two favourites for a while now. These last couple of months have been brutal
Going back here because 🏆 was scared to connect with 👻 because she didn't get to say goodbye to 🧚. And despite 👻 being so shy, she reached out first to 🏆. But now they finally reunited and I couldn't be more happier.
They even took down her videos so fast, that's just sad. Especially after all the work and great content she did for Niji. I wouldn't mind seeing some older clips I missed from her, she's amazing.
@@dragb9284 Thanks fam, already subbed and look forward to it. Does anyone have a good clip of her casino stream? I can't believe all these vids got taken down so fast, I should've tried to save some of them she makes such great content.
Well better news than this is that she’s coming back on her old channel dokibird. She has a stream scheduled and everything so go over there to see her again. She’s going to be back in like two days.
From the claims in Nijisanjis own post, Selens claims in the past, and the claims of other livers formerly associated with nijisanji, its really clear that there was a massive amount of mismanagement from Nijisanjis part, and that Selen did her job, you know, content creation, even spending 15k of her own own money(which should have been from Nijisanjis pocket imo), and did her best at being an entertaining liver and content creator, despite managements incompentence.I think this was kinda of a Catch-22 for Selen. She either goes along with the incompetent management, and doesnt do the content she wants to make and we want to support, or does things despite the incompetent management and this happens. At this point, I'm just praying for Nijisanji to drop dead, or for someone to find that Anycolor itself is in breach of contract and sue their asses.
She’s making a comeback in two days as dokibird on both RUclips and twitch. Dragons are trying to get her to 200k before her return stream on the seventh.
I wonder what the reactions of rpr, axel and altare about this. Their team energy is what lead me to watch them more. Rpr is the only one who could probably freely speak though cause he is not in a company.
I haven't really watched niji in a while i kinda forgot about it but started to watch it again its sad that im just catching up with the graduations and termination
It was so bad for Selen that she almost succeeded in "leaving us permanently". If one of the most successful talents was pushed to that point from the time there, you can only imagine how it's like for others that were less successful. It just made me realize exactly how serious Mata was when she said "Mousey saved my life". Thank goodness she is still around. She deserves so much more than anything Niji can offer. I'm happy to see the community rally together in support for her.
So disappointing seeing all of this unravel, and mostly feeling sorry for the talent that's still with them. And what's worse is all the work going into the talent is gone and have to either restart or begin again with a lower viewership if the audience wasn't aware of who the talent were before joining. Can only hope they'll be able to stream with each other again after being freed of Nijisanji/ANYCOLOR's bs
Your background outro killed me emotionally jfc (as it usually does with situations like these); the two of them felt like bffs q~q. Both being some of my top oshis is in part because their friendship was so hilariously magnetic I hope the best for both their futures, Pomu with education and Selen with a (re)start as a free 'bird'
Well, that statement said she was bullied by at least one of the livers. Which may be management redirecting blame. But it may be true so now people are crazy speculating and accusing.
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot that's a nice argument, why don't you back it up with a source? jokes aside, wasting energy on speculations just shows you don't really care about selen or anyone involved, you just care about venting your anger
Selen is by far my favourite Vtuber but Pomu has a very strong second. And their collabs are comedic gold! They are soooooooooo funny together and i really enjoyed watching them!
I know this sounds very rude of me but.. nijisanji en is losing very talented talents first pomu from the FIRST wave then selen from the SECOND wave. The last cup of coffee problem to selen getting hospitalized to her getting terminated. Pomu made me cry now kyo but also selen now. The fact thats selen is one of the girl member who actually has a very huge fanbase..❤ Let us dragoons still support and love our cute, chaotic, talented, creative, funny Selen Tatsuki from NIJISANJI EN SECOND WAVE OBSYDIA 😭💋❤💜 WE LOVE YOU SELEN ALWAYS, WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE WHATEVER YOUR NEW CHAPTER IS!!💜 - love dragoons.
I know a lot of people only really felt Pomu and Selen leaving, makes sense, they are the most popular, but losing Mika was my first heartbreak after finding her in later November from Matara kan and especially K9Kuro... for obvious reasons. Hope to see them come back in another form soon, ALL of them. :)
Hey fellow dragoon I should probably inform you she’s back on her old account dokibird even has a return stream scheduled go over there and subscribe to her if you want to see her again.
A few days ago when Kyo announce his graduation i remember jokingly said "haha now i'm worried for Obsydia since each gen before Iluna lost one member." God how that didn't age well..
I've been a fan of NijiEN ever since Lazulight and have been defending them since.... ....BUT F*CK ALL THAT. Anyone with a decently working brain knows that current NijiEN isn't the same as the earliest days of NijiEN(Hell, this is true for the main branch also). I'm glad Pomu, Selen, and the others who've left the company are finally free now to do whatever they want. I don't want the company to crash and burn due to the fact that the livers will be affected, but goddamn it is it hard to just ignore everything else happening. (If anyone has any news regarding reincarnations of a fairy, a dragon, and a ghost... please tell me.)
Someone mentioned a gamer named dokibird. As for the fairy, I've no news yet. Waiting for her revival if she returns. P.S. I love NijiEN livers but not the company, company sucks at letting their talents bloom and prosper, sadly.
@@StygianIkazuchi exactly what I said. I'm supporting the livers that chose to stay there, and am and will continue to support the ones that left/let go. Was really sad when Pomu left, almost made me stop watching the rest of the livers because of how sad I felt and how my dislike of the company increased. Wishing the rest of livers are happy and also hoping the others are also on good places.
Selen already has a return stream planned as hee old self doki bird for the 7th. Go over there and spread to support her and spread the word to the other dragoons.
You could tell Pomu was genuinely upset she couldn't stream with her one last time after she said that, but I'm sure their paths will cross again soon.
I think they mentioned that her old account's name is Dokibird. Her channel is apparently also here in youtube and twitch. Sorry if I don't have a link tho, I only saw what other people mentioned.
I don't think i'll be able to enjoy any stream from any Nijisanji vtuber, for a long while. This whole thing has left a huge bitter taste in my mouth and in my memory.. i think i'll just enjoy the indie one's
I always thought if NijiEN were to create a duo subunit, it would have been these two. I miss them a lot, hope they can go on another adventure in the future together.
Hey dragoon worry not she’s returning as doki bird go over there to support her and spread the word to the other dragoons. she’s asking for peoples to spread the word of her return.
that's it folks, all of my Niji oshi already graduated and watching the whole company burning and sinking at the same time i think it is the time to move on these past few years was fun, adios
You guys misunderstand, I mean is I separate my self from NIJI in general, regarding about former liver (Taka, Zea, Yugo, Zaion, Nina, Reza, etc) I already subbed to them if they have yt or twitch channel
I feel it's better go solo cuz for now the situation really goes hard to her. Give her a support and hopefully she'll fully recovered from this bad handling from this black company.
@@hifzuddinmortza7755 I can see your perspective on being solo, but I think her having some support to start would be good. Vshojo is a great company for finding balance. Look at Matara Kan, K9Kuro and Henya. They came from rocky places and settled in incredibly well. They now can do whatever they want, but still having the safety net of support from Vshojo if they ever need it.
I like a lot of the ppl in vshojo, and apparently they even have a thing about providing mental health assistance from what Matara's said, but they are absolutely a club of people who are friends brought in by friends and I don't know if Selen is close to anyone in there. Did she do a lot with M and N??? I suspect she's actually closer to more people in Holo en at this point, between Mumei and her being irl friends pre-vtuber, and Selen having lots of fun with Altare and Axel, except that Holo takes its time adding more talents and they might not add another wave until the end of the year. Anyway, this is the saddest way things could go. I was pretty sure she was leaving, but like this, it seems likely there's going to be lawyering, which is going to be expensive no matter what. Like if that happens she will for real need to crowdfund her legal expenses.
Since she is starting to stream in like two days on her PL of Dokibird, which she tweeted out “please let everyone know where I am.” As a primarily Vshojo/twitch vtuber watcher I definitely am rooting for their success. Though I more so hope that talents find places that they are comfortable with that will also allow for them to have an audience that they get along with. Since collabs between agencies and indies doesn’t need to be complicated.
@@v312ym34n_is_very_mean someone else pointed this out but mumei actually took a surprise break at the beginning of January and never explained it. Just based on this time line some things line up.
damn and i just so happen to download one of selen yt shorts, the animated series one ( i think its nijibites?) yesterday daemn man, and i still could hear her dragoonic laugh.... but the good news is this dragon has been released from her shackle and now soaring free😭
This popped up in my recommended again and noticed you haven’t clipped since let’s call them “the events.” It’s a shame, I remember a more innocent day when I used to really enjoy watching your clips. If you ever come back, I’d love to see your clips again, at least of those that have escaped kurosanji.
I love Selen SO PLEASE support her wherever she is
she is doki now! (@/dokibird)
it is so damn depressing that it ended the way it did.
we all know what's gonna happen
Dokibird is her indie channel that shes returning to
oki doki *wink*
Nijisanji is literally that meme of Tom the cat with the shotgun
More like the meme of someone getting shot only for the shooter to say "why would 'x' do this"
It’s literally that meme of a guy shooting himself from behind
Nijisanji is ✈️ 🏢🏢
@@nullvoid373 ACCELERATE
I love that everyone would know which exact meme is that merely from the description 😂
Hold onto your hats folks, after this there is probably going to be a cascade of graduations/terminations for niji
honestly, i doubt it? i can see a couple more people jumping ship after this, maybe one more from en and some of the last of id, but everything else suggests that niji just stops growing, keeps the same few livers doing the same few things for awhile, dies a painful death, and we don't really hear about them until they're already gone
i'd love to be proven wrong though, the less people dealing with management this intolerable the better
Which is crazy considering they've been dropping like flies for at least 4 months now. But losing their biggest talents in less than a few weeks... jesus...
@@DeviousHands idk, i bet a lot were kept in the dark with what was going on with Selen. With this reveal I can see a lot of them quitting in protest.
@@DeviousHandsyou realize that management has to start from somewhere, right? I don’t think it’s the staff themselves that are responsible solely for this. No, I believe this problem sprouts from the very top: Tazumi himself. To me, his style of ownership and overseeing of the company is almost exactly like a certain former sports team owner that shall remain anonymous.
Not sure about that though. Niji EN might have lost their main pillars but the rest are mostly just around and toeing the line. They'll get by, maybe
At long last selen is free from that horrible company
she is, she's a free dragon now
All it took was her almost ending her life...what a crap company. I'll never forgive or forget what they almost took away from us.
@@mshake7056 what's so annoying is niji fans/shills will probably try to spin this as being selen's fault, proably after they see this news and run away to avoid backlash
@@connorradcliffe1769 I love Millie and Enna so much but I can't support this crap company ever again and if they were some of the people bullying her I can't support them either. I'm done
@@connorradcliffe1769 I blame Nijisanji since they were in the position of authority and had the ability to do something about the situation, but there probably was fault on all sides.
Selen is known to boundary push and circumvent company policy after all, she'd even do it on stream.
If the small things Zaion did put her on management's bad side, I bet they hated Selen.
Nijisanji just casually removes one of Athens Pillar.
Bro nijiEN is adopted child of the branch
They're popular and making so much money from dono and merch
But they neglected it. I'm so mad
What kind of company would throw the opportunity to gain profit and exposure on global scale!?
@@antokarman2064one owned by a soulless person named Riku Tazumi, that’s what.
What happens when you try to run an EN branch with the mentality of the JP one.
@antokarman2064 that what most companies do now days companies like Disney for example have thrown away billions on stupidly
The way they tried to word their way into their favor, like sure only SELEN did the wrongs and you were just following rules. What a horrible company. The fact that their big talents are just graduating and getting terminated left and right speaks so much about them. Welp, Selen is finally free at least, thank god for that.
She tried to end her life how they thought they could spin it as it's her fault for everything including her being bullied is some bs. F that company man
@@mshake7056which constitutes bullying and victim blaming in and of itself, which reaffirms HER version.
The way *they* tried to word it into their favor? No no no no no no no. Not *they.* *He.* This is no doubt how Tazumi told them to write it or else he’d put their asses on the street. Because he is the alpha and anyone who tries to challenge him must face a cruel fate. If Yagoo had enough courage, he’d gather a team of wealthy men to force Riku Snyder to sell the company. And overhaul everything but the talents.
If only their management was 1% as powerful as their termination text writer...
They tried to pull a Zaion and it backfired.
Zaion was right
Selen, we will miss you. Sad to see she got terminated. Wish we can say goodbye to Selen for the last time *o7*
At least she's free now...
Btw, have you guys heard of this cool gamer called *Dokibird?*
She is hopefully feeling better
I heard they're cute and that anyone who liked Selen would be a big fan of her. That's what I've heard.
yeah just heard of Dokibird a few hours ago, and I am already a fan!
High time she got out of a toxic environment and begin really healing. We just hope she's in a better place now.
Now if only Ethyria would follow suit.
By any chance, do you know their past lives?
@@happilyeverafter7703 👀
Gonna miss Selen too much. Her smile and laughter literally fills the emptiness in my soul. We just began 2024 and Niji has created a lot cracks that can't be fixed
"Cracks"? More like gaping, bottomless chasms.
Check out Dokibird she VERY similar to selen(wink,wink)
@@SetsunaTowa2122 twitch or youtube
She's reactivated her past life as Dokibird, so it's not all bad. It could honestly be a good thing, because she was sure getting done dirty by her corporate overlords.
@@rah9722 RUclips
The most disgusting part is that Selen didn't even mention names on her twt abt the harassment yet the company stated " LIVERS " as the one mentioned. What a way to throw your talents under the bus to save yourself 😂😂
Yeah, it's an extremely deliberate tactic. Same thing that the service industry does with tipping culture -- distract people from the employers by making them mad at the employees.
I don’t know who in the management thought that was a good idea…it made them look worse.
In the jp announcement they said “staff” they can’t even translate their own statement right smh
That famous saying in french I don't know if you have the same one in English but :
" quand tu veux tuer ton chien tu l'accusé d'avoir la rage "
meaning if you want to kill something put the blame on it even if it's not true. Some people in anycolor doing that right now not only to Selen but to the EN Branch. They did it before with ID
thats actually what so concerning, since alot of speculation and rumor was going around against 2 individuals wording it out like that might put them both in a vaery bad situation, and the thing is its not even yet confirmed but i see people blaming those 2 already.
I come back to this video every once in a while... The 0:32 to 0:50 absolutely breaks my heart every single time. Back when nobody knew what was up behind the scene. You can tell how genuine and sad Pomu was and how much she cared for Selen. The Wrestletuber reunion was just so good... Truly a blessing. So glad we still have both of them and that they look much happier than they have been in the last year!
A lot of people didn't mention Selen at that point, either because of contractual reasons, or fear of angering management, or maybe even being a bad actor. The fact Pomu went out of her way to mention Selen despite everything at that point really shows she really genuinely cared.
I love how much their statement proves their own guilt. Like, this is exactly as bad as everyone thought it was behind the scenes, and they provided the proof themselves. Everything they say in this statement is entirely consistent with the harshest possible fan speculation. They dragged their feet and muddled the rights process, Selen talked to the creators directly to get permission from them, management didn't care and privated it anyway. When Selen complained, she was locked out of all socials and terminated. ABSOLUTE POS company, every liver would be better off without them.
yeah the "she didn't have the perm" is the biggest bullshit. Like did Niji think nobody knows lilypichu? like she often watches cover videos of her song on her stream.
And even if Selen didn't ask for perms and Anycolour was playing it safe, lily would probably give the greenlight immediately.
@@pegarangewhat stolen assets?
@@pegarangeWhat 'stolen assets'? Art was commissioned, music copyright was given, Selen did nothing wrong there, so I'm curious how you'll spin that particular story.
@@pegarange Yep, stolen assets but somehow still spent upwards of $15k. Makes total sense.
@@pegarange you’re going to have explain further. Cuz I could buy your and Niji’s statements if there was anything specific to mention that permission wasn’t given yet. If 1 or 2 things slipped by, makes sense. But if they dragged their feet as per usual w/ Niji’s failing business practices, then they’re just lying.
support dokibird, fk nishit
^ follow Dokibird!!!
@@aaliwardtrue she needs it
Back here because now a certain bird and ghost maid have managed to run a fun little wrestling tourney
But a sneaky bug managed to sneak in to the tournament using the security guard as a skin suit. And a certain musician took the title as the stronger wrestler after being basically a final boss to Battel
Who's here after the reunion?
pomu and selen.. my favorite duo in that garbage fire of a company
@dokibird is where she is now! Let's hope her and the ghost/snake, whatever form she will take, can do fun stuff like this in the future too
How come a lot of people are mentioning this doki bird fella, her last stream was over 2 years ago.
listen to the voice.@@dragonwrath582
@@dragonwrath582gee, I wonder…
@@dragonwrath582same for this ghost also
@@dragonwrath582apparently she used that name to post some tweets about the situation.
so if she comes back it'll be around that.
Damn i will miss selen i may not of watched many of her streams but i still loved her and her content. Such great character and a great addition to niji.
After this? This IS the cascade, it's been going for months now. There wont be a Niji EN by May at this rate.
@@Frag-ile never know things may change we can't possibly tell the future
Could support her indie form.
She’s returning as dokibird go vee there to see her again.
@@dragb9284 yes I saw that from another I was like wait really, looked up the name and when I heard the voice i was like no way lmao.
This two are still going hard after everything they had to go through. Love this duo so much
When millie (or maybe Enna?) Jokingly asked Whos next so she can prepare in kyos graduation announcement, I don't think they were expecting to be answered so soon.
That’s fucked up man. I hope Selen is okay wherever she may be now. Not even getting a graduation or a proper goodbye. I hope she re appears as an indie or in an agency that will treat her better. Either way this whole situation is unfortunate
She's been on her old account. Check dokibird
And the reason for going into hospital is dark sadly from her x post so hope she only streams when she feels ready
@@christopherpage2622well she’s started up here old account dokibird and has a stream planned hopefully people support her there.
@@christopherpage2622 There's a prechat up already, she's going live in 2 days. She's been wanting to stream for a month but wasn't allowed
@@Ole_Rasmussen I guess from if how we gleam the mention of "an attempt" that it was a self harm/deletion attempt that her wanting to do nice small streams since she went quiet may have been what she wanted to do for her own mental health recovery which if being prevented from doing so from niji is a real shitty move amongst many
This video makes me sad but I keep coming back because it's like something that will never come back
:(
So, the inevitable finally happened. While I won't say this is the final nail in the coffin for Nijisanji, this is probably the event that will lead to it. If you're hemorrhaging talented employees, it's due to bad management and a toxic work environment. Plain and simple. And in this case, it's so horrendous that it nearly cost the life of one of their best people. When Selen went radio silent for an entire month, I figured that it was probably due to her lawyering up and potentially starting litigation. Seems I was right. Her current statement on her PL account is brief, but very telling. This is far from over. In the meantime, I hope that she finds someplace better, where she can use her intelligence, creativity, and passion to the fullest.
This final nail in the coffin happened long ago: when Tazumi chose to create an EN branch in the first place.
Dokibird
Luckily, she's not letting the kurosanji bs stop her from using her creativity and talent to its fullest. Have you heard of dokibird? She's a vtuber who just announced her return shortly after niji posted Selen's termination notice. If you like Selen, you'll LOVE dokibird. She has a waiting room set up here on RUclips for a stream in a couple days. 😉
@@sportballotaku2139 how is that the final nail??
Lets get Dokibird to 100k before her comeback live stream!
Selen *will* have a silver play button, whether riku wants it or not.
@@bonogiamboni4830 Well, i have some good news about that
Already done
already at 150k
@@logyross6883 170k now. It will be at 200k by tomorrow. Mark my words.
They lost Pomu and Selen. Damn.. Two pillars of EN. If Finana or Elira Quit daym then EN is literally crippled.
Plus if Elira leaves there’s a big chance Millie/Enna/Rosemi goes too… I’m just looking up past lives at this point. That’s all of my remaining favorites right there…
If I may know, is Kyo leaving this month as well? I heard rumors about it.
@@bmanpura Yeah Kyo is graduating
@@bmanpura It's not rumors, it's announced
nah Millie will stay, She like Nijisanji too much, nothing wrong in NijiEN for her
God, seeing this clip and Doki’s Twitter thread is just heartbreaking. Pomu and Selen got me into NijiEn with how creative, funny, and endlessly passionate they were - so hearing how their own company apparently treated them like absolute shit infuriates me to no end. At this point, I am praying that the rest of NijiEn goes on strike or forms a union or _something_ because they deserve so much better than what they’ve been getting right now.
My heart goes out to Dokibird/Selen/whoever is behind that avatar, as well as all of her friends who’ve supported her here. I wish her nothing but the best for her safety and health from here on, and I hope that she gets all the support and kindness she deserves. 🙏🙏🙏💜💜💜
The unionization thing _needs_ to be talked about a lot more. The dream situation is a Screen Actors Guild type of organization, where talents can join either across the different companies (even the ones who seemingly treat their talents better and have a meme-ified CEO) or as indies. Would hugely help with better bargains, talent support, and dealing with drama between talents.
I didn't watch Selen as often as other livers but when I did she was such a joy and a total sweetheart, I'm going to miss her so much. I love the streamers at Niji EN, but the management team in charge of Selen can go screw themselves!!
Hey dude good news Selen is back on her old channel dokibird she has an upcoming stream planned if you still want to see her check her out over there.
@@dragb9284 thanks for letting me know, I'll definitely check her out when I get an opportunity
Please check dokibird!
Sele-, umm.. DokiBird is having a Return Party in two days.
Let's get Sele-(cough)- Doki Bird to 100k subs before the queen returns. 🏆 🏆 🏆
Well, she is going to be in for a great surprise once she appears
DokiBird? May you so kindly send a link?
@@agentdon1760 here you go: www.youtube.com/@Dokibird
@@agentdon1760 just search dokibird and she will appear!
At this rate she might get to 300k lmao
At least she'll actually have a silver play button to keep this time
I remember that one particular video where Selen goes "Oh look diamond!" with Pomu, it's my go to video for having a good laugh.
Goddayum, this is so abrupt, I am so gonna miss those two 😭
Welp Selen is back as her old channel doki bird she has a steam planned for two days from now go support her there.
@@dragb9284 Thank you for telling, now Imma go support her 👍
@@tripleaces659 yeah spread the word let’s get her to 200k before her return stream.
@@tripleaces659 also she’s finally getting that silver play button suck it niji.
@@dragb9284LETS GOOOOOOO
im kinda worried about Rosemi,.to me she is another Selen's best friend after Pomu,.she also sound kinda exhausted in the stream after they announce Kyo's graduation, kinda sound like she about to cry when thanking SC/member gift
Ow that’s really concerning rosemi is also not as out there as Selen or pomu which from the sounds of it could be bad.
@@dragb9284 yea,.i might be over thinking but it does sound different from usual Rosemi,.i just hope she's okay
@@narzz7440 honestly after everything else and all that this reveal. There is a very good reason to worry about rosemi.
Came back here, I hope to see them collab again
Check out something called "WrestleTuber 2024 Day 1" and skip to the 24min mark. You can thank me later.
@@l3nsmani think three weeks in a row collabing now
We are so back
She's reactivated her past life as Dokibird, so it's not all bad. It could honestly be a good thing, because she was sure getting done dirty by her corporate overlords. There's an upcoming stream on her account and people are using it as a chatroom to show support.
Can't imagine Selen with another name but especially with another avatar, her model suited her voice so well
and now there are more adventures to come
Now they're free to have as many adventures as they want
At this point the NijiEN livers should just start their own company lmao
might as well join vshojo
I hope we get to see them stream together in the future.
They deserve the best.
I find it telling how she said in her statement that she tried to eave more amicably on Jan 26th. I guess management didn't want to do things that way. They knew losing Selen would be such a huge blow to the company that they'd likely never recover, so instead of letting her walk out the door they got it in their heads that demonizing her like that did Zaion was in their best interest.
Yeah - big mistake geniuses. Now everything is coming down ten times faster than if they'd just let her leave voluntarily.
Ok. I think it’s time to hunt diamond again?! Let’s gooooo
I'm really sad because it's really bad for her fans because all of those vods are gone, everyone knows that she was done wrong by them,
And The incredibly Petty part of me is saying all the people who thought me and others were crazy for thinking she was being punished thinks that those people should get on their hands and knees and apologize. But Man I thought they would at least try to milk her for the last bit of money that they could get from her.
You think, that these paid Nijifans will get that they are following a bad company? I don't think so.
I still have a bunch of vods that I needed to see... Shit I knew this was gonna happen anyway I was really wishing it would go under a graduation so the vods could stay
i saw the twitter post and yes there are indeed still a lot of ppl that think niji en management did nothing wrong lmao, paid actors
AND THEY DID DO EXACTLY THAT! they waited until her merch and voice packs sold out to terminate her.
her iconic nijicancelled streams 😭
Okay, with that being official, I would be willing to put money on Niji EN being closed, entirely, by the end of the year.
They have lost so many, not just in EN either, over the last 18 months. Niji EN has been pretty gutted already, so might as well close the doors and let the talents move on to better opportunities than what AnyColor can provide.
Not only that but anyone who works for them that says 'niji i snot that bad' will just earn hate for themselves, actually I'm quite curious if Luca and Millie are going to say anything.
I agree that it isnt the best company but some of these ppl get money out of this and live off the pay of this i would want that to happen just yet
At least just EN and ID Branch closing. Their JP I heard is too big to fail
I mean there seems to be an EN talent who bullied Selen? I speculate it might be Luca or Millie due to their previous behavior, or maybe some other EN managers’ poster child, but we have to wait for Selen’s testimony for that.
And yes, JP branch-only the top most popular and selling talents that is-is still going super strong here in Japan. Also there are so many Japanese viewers who actually protects Nijisanji for all these recent EN conflicts, and the Western fans’ opinion might as well be considered minority here. This is what JP societal culture is capable of.
@@luk_.armxndii I agree with you. It's definitely not Cover and almost certainly at a black level, but most aspiring Vtuber would chose Niji over any normal 9 to 5 jobs out there(they still make a lot of money even with the sad merchandise commission rate). Heck, even the current me who knew the drama would have actually joined if I feel like I'm entertaining enough(sadly I'm not). Just endure until the contract ends and then go indie with all the cash, fame, connection and knowledge you made after the 2 years of hardship in Niji
The rain is now finally stop, and Dokifreebird , and free reborn MGS tshirt girl???
I have newfound hope that they'll go on that adventure together someday
She deserves the world and more. I pray that she is doing better despite the unholy s**tshow she had to endure.
If you want to see her you might want to go check out dokibird. She’s over there now and even has a stream planned and like she said it might be a little scuff but who cares.
You can see how she’s doing as dokibird on both RUclips and twitch. She has a return stream planned for the seventh. Let’s try and get her to 100k before her return.
@@dragb9284 About that... new goal: 1 Million
The vitriol contained in the termination document was very palpable. One of the most violent part is the statement that "The other livers are with us on this decision" (paraphrase)
I'm not a dragoon but seeing your favorite streamer gets executed like that has got to be painful.
I hope for the best out of this ugly situation. Take time off the net if you're feeling extremely bad. And move forward. Support your favorite where and when you can.
Hey selen making a return as doki bird on the seventh go over there and support her. Also spread the word she’s asked her dragoons to spread the news of her return.
Selen may be gone but Dokibird still lives...we must show her support.
Definitely saw the termination coming when Hyte announced the collab with Nijisanji and their choice for Obsydia was Rosemi and not Selen. Any Color, your reputation was ruined the moment Zaion released her docs and the "long breaks" were revealed to be shadow suspensions. The whole doc they released reads like a petty shift blame onto Selen. They shift all the blame onto her. I can only imagine what the internals were like. The poor girl tried to take her own life. That's a very toxic, hostile work environment. Go show the poor girl some love. If you read her Dokibird tweets, it's very heartbreaking.
Yet if you asked Riku Tazumi’s head assistant, he’d probably pull a Bruce Allen and say, ‘Y’know the culture is actually damn good.’
It is sad why she ended up in hospital, and then all the bullshit that is going on now.
And now they're back together as indies.
The fact that Pomu was the only one in Niji (IIRC) who mentioned Selen before the termination announcement started made me strongly believe that they’re still close, and I’m glad that’s the case.
0:39
On a separate note, after everything that happened, I feel like she knew that Selen was hospitalized during her silence but wasn't able to directly say anything about it.
@@Zack_Zander I guarantee she knew. Her and Mumei both likely knew, because Mumei went on hiatus for a bit at the same time.
@@kogv4693
I feel like Mumei’s hiatus was more of a happy coincidence, since it can’t be confirmed when exactly she found out.
I can believe that Pomu knew before the termination happened (due to inside knowledge), but I can’t confirm if Mumei did until after it was announced. Although, it would still definitely be nice if she did.
@@Zack_Zandermumei extended her hiatus for doki, it wasn't about her at first.
Its sad to see some bridges probably burned because of this, but honestly, I'm just glad to have her back. Pomu and Selen have been my two favourites for a while now. These last couple of months have been brutal
Man, i wonder if she knew, back then, why Selen was mia 😢. I hope they'll be able to collab in the future again.
Doki mentioned in her return stream that everyone knew she was in the hospital why she was in the hospital days before she was discharged.
The rain will never stop now. "Someday it'll be the last day" i guess it was, Selen.
Going back here because 🏆 was scared to connect with 👻 because she didn't get to say goodbye to 🧚.
And despite 👻 being so shy, she reached out first to 🏆.
But now they finally reunited and I couldn't be more happier.
Go support Dokibird everyone, she's literally asking everyone to come find her
Hey, this made me smile in light of everything that's been going on this morning. Thank you for that.
They even took down her videos so fast, that's just sad. Especially after all the work and great content she did for Niji. I wouldn't mind seeing some older clips I missed from her, she's amazing.
She’s making a comeback as doki bird go over there and support her on twitch or RUclips.
@@dragb9284 Thanks fam, already subbed and look forward to it. Does anyone have a good clip of her casino stream? I can't believe all these vids got taken down so fast, I should've tried to save some of them she makes such great content.
@@FlameVisit.People have dropped the link to archive on the thread in r/VirtualRUclipsrs be quick
goin through it rn 🫂
Well better news than this is that she’s coming back on her old channel dokibird. She has a stream scheduled and everything so go over there to see her again. She’s going to be back in like two days.
Spread the word the me and other dragons are trying to tell people and get her to 200k before her return in two days.
From the claims in Nijisanjis own post, Selens claims in the past, and the claims of other livers formerly associated with nijisanji, its really clear that there was a massive amount of mismanagement from Nijisanjis part, and that Selen did her job, you know, content creation, even spending 15k of her own own money(which should have been from Nijisanjis pocket imo), and did her best at being an entertaining liver and content creator, despite managements incompentence.I think this was kinda of a Catch-22 for Selen. She either goes along with the incompetent management, and doesnt do the content she wants to make and we want to support, or does things despite the incompetent management and this happens. At this point, I'm just praying for Nijisanji to drop dead, or for someone to find that Anycolor itself is in breach of contract and sue their asses.
Hey don’t forget to support her as doki bird we’re trying to reach 200k again before her return.
Already subbed last week when this whole thing started stinking
Peeple as creative as Selen are too big to be held down by corporate. Hope she does well moving forward and that she gets better
She’s making a comeback in two days as dokibird on both RUclips and twitch. Dragons are trying to get her to 200k before her return stream on the seventh.
I wonder what the reactions of rpr, axel and altare about this. Their team energy is what lead me to watch them more. Rpr is the only one who could probably freely speak though cause he is not in a company.
RPR already welcomed her back on her PL account.
@@flippantieswhat does pl mean?
@@jrjuaneza3643past/ previous life. And her account is dokibird.
@@jrjuaneza3643past life ! she goes by dokibird now (she wants ppl to know so yeah)
@@jrjuaneza3643 Past Live. Her/his life before on agency or corpo
my favorite duo is gone without a goodbye or a proper ending :( pomu saying let's focus on her feeling well is hitting harder now.
I have supported NijiEN since day one. But after this. I'm not so sure anymore. My favorite or most watched people have left or been terminated.
I know thev felling I love the talents and the opportunities and exposure it gives them but man they really got stop shooting themselves in the foot
@@dragb9284 it's funny you say that. I actually just found it a few hrs ago 😁 I'm happy. Now I need to try to find Pomu....if she's still streaming
@@akashiamizore193 he spread the word about doki let’s try and get her to 200k before Chinese new year as a bit of a gift.
@@dragb9284 I'll do what I can
@@akashiamizore193 Pomu is Mint Maid, a ghost maid Vtuber. She hasn't resurfaced yet afaik.
I haven't really watched niji in a while i kinda forgot about it but started to watch it again its sad that im just catching up with the graduations and termination
It was so bad for Selen that she almost succeeded in "leaving us permanently". If one of the most successful talents was pushed to that point from the time there, you can only imagine how it's like for others that were less successful. It just made me realize exactly how serious Mata was when she said "Mousey saved my life".
Thank goodness she is still around. She deserves so much more than anything Niji can offer. I'm happy to see the community rally together in support for her.
Hope Pomu can reincarnate and go on more adventures with Doki!
i guess they can be together now that they are both free
So disappointing seeing all of this unravel, and mostly feeling sorry for the talent that's still with them. And what's worse is all the work going into the talent is gone and have to either restart or begin again with a lower viewership if the audience wasn't aware of who the talent were before joining.
Can only hope they'll be able to stream with each other again after being freed of Nijisanji/ANYCOLOR's bs
Your background outro killed me emotionally jfc (as it usually does with situations like these); the two of them felt like bffs q~q. Both being some of my top oshis is in part because their friendship was so hilariously magnetic
I hope the best for both their futures, Pomu with education and Selen with a (re)start as a free 'bird'
So, we all agree company bad, talent good, let's not take it further than that and just support your oshis even after they left
Well she’s coming back on her old account dokibird
Well, that statement said she was bullied by at least one of the livers. Which may be management redirecting blame. But it may be true so now people are crazy speculating and accusing.
Nope, Enna and Millie are garbage. We all know who the bullies are.
@@definitelynotanAIchatbot that's a nice argument, why don't you back it up with a source?
jokes aside, wasting energy on speculations just shows you don't really care about selen or anyone involved, you just care about venting your anger
Selen is by far my favourite Vtuber but Pomu has a very strong second. And their collabs are comedic gold! They are soooooooooo funny together and i really enjoyed watching them!
Seems like Selen Palooski will be reunited with a certain fox turned bug mom
I could easily see that happening
if you can see that, you need to look harder.
I hope people stop fueling that retirement home.
Being an actual indie is okay.
Going to the place where your growth and reputation go to die is not
@@dingusuhum I mean it wouldent be the first niji talent to join up there.
@@1stCallipostle the other two seem to be doing just fine.
I’m gonna miss Selen but I’m glad Dokibird is coming back
I know this sounds very rude of me but.. nijisanji en is losing very talented talents first pomu from the FIRST wave then selen from the SECOND wave.
The last cup of coffee problem to selen getting hospitalized to her getting terminated. Pomu made me cry now kyo but also selen now.
The fact thats selen is one of the girl member who actually has a very huge fanbase..❤ Let us dragoons still support and love our cute, chaotic, talented, creative, funny Selen Tatsuki from NIJISANJI EN SECOND WAVE OBSYDIA 😭💋❤💜 WE LOVE YOU SELEN ALWAYS, WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE WHATEVER YOUR NEW CHAPTER IS!!💜
- love dragoons.
I know a lot of people only really felt Pomu and Selen leaving, makes sense, they are the most popular, but losing Mika was my first heartbreak after finding her in later November from Matara kan and especially K9Kuro... for obvious reasons. Hope to see them come back in another form soon, ALL of them. :)
Hey fellow dragoon I should probably inform you she’s back on her old account dokibird even has a return stream scheduled go over there and subscribe to her if you want to see her again.
@@Jmt1000XDSelen already has a comeback stream planned on her old account dokibird go over there if you want to see her again.
A few days ago when Kyo announce his graduation i remember jokingly said "haha now i'm worried for Obsydia since each gen before Iluna lost one member." God how that didn't age well..
Check dokibird and true they lost two pillars.
Doki will survive!
I just wonder how things are going to be when it all calms down (and how it’ll calm down)
So yeah about the calming down part... LOL
Didn't age well lmao
Hope doki and pomu will meet once again, if they did I hope they’ll play games together
I've been a fan of NijiEN ever since Lazulight and have been defending them since....
....BUT F*CK ALL THAT.
Anyone with a decently working brain knows that current NijiEN isn't the same as the earliest days of NijiEN(Hell, this is true for the main branch also). I'm glad Pomu, Selen, and the others who've left the company are finally free now to do whatever they want. I don't want the company to crash and burn due to the fact that the livers will be affected, but goddamn it is it hard to just ignore everything else happening.
(If anyone has any news regarding reincarnations of a fairy, a dragon, and a ghost... please tell me.)
Someone mentioned a gamer named dokibird. As for the fairy, I've no news yet. Waiting for her revival if she returns.
P.S. I love NijiEN livers but not the company, company sucks at letting their talents bloom and prosper, sadly.
@@darklord6357 Support the talent, not the company.
@@StygianIkazuchi exactly what I said. I'm supporting the livers that chose to stay there, and am and will continue to support the ones that left/let go. Was really sad when Pomu left, almost made me stop watching the rest of the livers because of how sad I felt and how my dislike of the company increased. Wishing the rest of livers are happy and also hoping the others are also on good places.
@@darklord6357 Yeah I know. I was just providing the simplest version. Something people will remember more easily.
Selen already has a return stream planned as hee old self doki bird for the 7th. Go over there and spread to support her and spread the word to the other dragoons.
You could tell Pomu was genuinely upset she couldn't stream with her one last time after she said that, but I'm sure their paths will cross again soon.
selen old lp is gone start streaming again
do you have a link for that, friend? I miss her
@@joddelrealingo7737dokibird
@@joddelrealingo7737Dokibird
@@joddelrealingo7737Search up Dokibird.
I think they mentioned that her old account's name is Dokibird. Her channel is apparently also here in youtube and twitch. Sorry if I don't have a link tho, I only saw what other people mentioned.
They are free now... it's time to heal.
Yup she’s back as doki bird go support her there
Even tho im not a dragoon i will still miss selen....
On the brightside i found a new interesting vtuber "dokibird"
I hope Doki and reincarnated Pomu can collab again in the future. Them playing minecraft together were some of my favorite moments in niji.
hopefully it'll be released as "Stop the Rain" by Dokibird & Mint Maid(?)
I don't think i'll be able to enjoy any stream from any Nijisanji vtuber, for a long while.
This whole thing has left a huge bitter taste in my mouth and in my memory.. i think i'll just enjoy the indie one's
I'm sure Pomu would have gotten in trouble for this if she wasn't already graduating, seeing how shitty Niji management has been lately
Selen's laugh has always made my days better. 🥹 Hope to hear it again in another place. 💜
You'll be able to hear it as dokibird.
Dokibird!
@@HasPotatoAimYeah, I've heard already, I'll be sure to check out Dokibird.
Heart broken dammm
I always thought if NijiEN were to create a duo subunit, it would have been these two. I miss them a lot, hope they can go on another adventure in the future together.
Quite a power move to have this a your last upload
We dragoons will miss Selen so much. But she is free so wherever she is we will be with her forever.
Hey dragoon worry not she’s returning as doki bird go over there to support her and spread the word to the other dragoons. she’s asking for peoples to spread the word of her return.
@@dragb9284 oh okay! Thank you for the info!!
Good old memories 😢
Whatever name she will become, I'm a dragoon forever ❤
that's it folks, all of my Niji oshi already graduated and watching the whole company burning and sinking at the same time i think it is the time to move on
these past few years was fun, adios
Well Selena return as dokibird and has a stream planned.
Go support her on twitch and RUclips and help her get to 200k before her return.
hope for the best journey bro,
glad u enjoy what we love,
adios amigos
You guys misunderstand, I mean is I separate my self from NIJI in general, regarding about former liver (Taka, Zea, Yugo, Zaion, Nina, Reza, etc) I already subbed to them if they have yt or twitch channel
@@yudiva2741 whoops my bad, glad u still on the hook with vtuber my guy, thought u were gone from what ive seen, nice explanation
One of the immortal moment ❤
I was checking my ninjiEN subs
Guess which two channel I was subbed to?
This clip channel.
And her, selen channel they really dropped the ball
This is really not how I expected Selen to go. The only good thing about all of this is that Selen is finally FREE.
NOT THE CHIBI VIDEO AT THE END I AM CRYINH NOW.
we wish selen the best of luck, also anyone else kinda rooting for vshojo rn? niji just doesnt feel the same anymore
I feel it's better go solo cuz for now the situation really goes hard to her. Give her a support and hopefully she'll fully recovered from this bad handling from this black company.
@@hifzuddinmortza7755 I can see your perspective on being solo, but I think her having some support to start would be good. Vshojo is a great company for finding balance. Look at Matara Kan, K9Kuro and Henya. They came from rocky places and settled in incredibly well. They now can do whatever they want, but still having the safety net of support from Vshojo if they ever need it.
I like a lot of the ppl in vshojo, and apparently they even have a thing about providing mental health assistance from what Matara's said, but they are absolutely a club of people who are friends brought in by friends and I don't know if Selen is close to anyone in there. Did she do a lot with M and N???
I suspect she's actually closer to more people in Holo en at this point, between Mumei and her being irl friends pre-vtuber, and Selen having lots of fun with Altare and Axel, except that Holo takes its time adding more talents and they might not add another wave until the end of the year.
Anyway, this is the saddest way things could go. I was pretty sure she was leaving, but like this, it seems likely there's going to be lawyering, which is going to be expensive no matter what. Like if that happens she will for real need to crowdfund her legal expenses.
Since she is starting to stream in like two days on her PL of Dokibird, which she tweeted out “please let everyone know where I am.”
As a primarily Vshojo/twitch vtuber watcher I definitely am rooting for their success. Though I more so hope that talents find places that they are comfortable with that will also allow for them to have an audience that they get along with.
Since collabs between agencies and indies doesn’t need to be complicated.
@@v312ym34n_is_very_mean someone else pointed this out but mumei actually took a surprise break at the beginning of January and never explained it. Just based on this time line some things line up.
It's just surreal seeing them together after months of shitshow and this.
damn and i just so happen to download one of selen yt shorts, the animated series one ( i think its nijibites?) yesterday
daemn man, and i still could hear her dragoonic laugh....
but the good news is this dragon has been released from her shackle and now soaring free😭
She’s coming back as doki bird show some support over there
@@dragb9284 oh DAEMN THANKS MAN, just subscribed to her hehehe
@@kentoscocos5238 nice spread the word by the way let the other dragoons know not to despair and that the boss is coming back.
@@kentoscocos5238spread the word! we already got her to 200k, we can go more!
This popped up in my recommended again and noticed you haven’t clipped since let’s call them “the events.” It’s a shame, I remember a more innocent day when I used to really enjoy watching your clips. If you ever come back, I’d love to see your clips again, at least of those that have escaped kurosanji.
I just hope her happiness wherever she is on whatever she do 💜