Just your sequencing of the draw alone is priceless information. I have tendinitis and I’m not able to grip as hard as I can without tensing up my traps. Fingers palms pressure leverage I am able to create enough friction to shoot as fast as I’m capable of with only using 50% of my grip strength. Ive learned just as much from your videos as I have from Anderson and stoeger classes. Those guys are awesome too, but the way you explain your processes really clicks with me.
This is excellent to hear! So happy to be able to help you :) I'm an engineer by degree so sometimes the engineer explanation can resonate really well with those who are detail oriented like you seem to be!
@TacticalPerformanceCenter thanks so much for watching and the comment! You guys are the reason I got into competition and have taught me a bunch too that I'm thankful for!
@@robepifania I really like how your drills break things down into parts that can be then worked on individually and then work up to the whole maneuver (grip, presentation, trigger control). That's how I learn stuff. I've done classes with a bunch of other GM's and your approach is something that I've found very helpful!
@docgsreloading7985 so glad to hear! I think my approach really comes from a few things: I learned how to instruct before I became the shooter I am teaching in the defensive world I'm an engineer by degree, so my mind works in that highly analytical, physical world I really enjoy helping people to be the best they can be. When they have success, I do as well! Thanks so much for the comments!! If you have questions I'm always here! 😁
if you work with a velcroed-in kydex front pants pocket holster and "hand in pocket' start, it doesn't take long at all to become fast enough to "beat the drop" which you will NEVER do from a ccw belt rig. Learn to react, draw and hit, the chest at "hand-it-over" distances, from a one-handed "retention" firing -tance, in sub-.60 second. Then learn to react to the timer's beep, draw from the "hand in pocket start, get both hands on the gun, and reliably hit the chest at 10 ft in .75 second. Then learn to side-step as you do both of those things. .20 second of the time shown on the timer is your reaction time, to the beep of the timer. If you start first, in a real fight, that .20 second is on HIM, not you. He'll also have .20 second or more of "recognition interval", to decide that what you're doing is a threat, and .20 second more to move his gun and arm over to your new location. That adds up to .60 second, and he's only going to have .40 second at arm's length or .55 second at 10 ft. The risk of course, is that your first hit on him might not suffice, which means you COULD still get shot (many times) If you're wearing armor, have a cellphone, are near a hospital and have a tourniquet, that risk is lessened, but should not be taken unless you think he's going to harm you anyway. Load your pocket 9mm with Liberty Arms 50 gr, 2000 fps, 450 ft lb solid copper hp ammo. It recoils no more than a hot 380 load, much less than a .38 snub with 158 gr plus P lhp ammo. but with much more probability of a one shot stop. Animal tests and timing of shooting with both types of pocket guns prove this to be true. You can prove it to yourself. The LA ammo is also AP, if you know what that means. It's $2 per round, so sell some gun that you dont use. So it costs $300 to have your pants pockets enlarged by a seamstress, so what?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge & expertise One can never over train on the fundamentals. One of my biggest benchmarks for improvement, was when i bought ManisX dry fire tool Amazing range of drills and data to identify and assist
@@robepifania - I was in a class and using a different gun then my own. The pattern was to the left (9:00) position. Additionally, for the first time I had both eyes open. Currently, I’m waiting for my Beretta 92 GTS to get fixed (I believe a manufacturer default) where the slide was jamming ( disappointing for a new pistol). Moving forward and I will try these techniques once I receive the pistol. Best Eddie
@@Ed-jw1ug Ok good to know! If you were using another gun, I'd suspect that the location of the trigger and the trigger break could potentially be messing with you, in addition to the firing hand tension issue you might be having in general. I'd say try adding more finger on the trigger in general and trying to touch the tip of the finger to the base of the finger (makes a diagonal path) and that might help straighten out your trigger press.
between you and Achilles Heel Tactical, I am going to try these drills / dry fire this week and bring it on into my next Episode on my gun channel thanks this is a big help.
@@robepifania that would be awesome probably me shooting better is a start lol and some subs 😂. Thanks though appreciate it. I just subscribed today enjoy learning from folks.
@@magdumpmonday Awesome thank you! i'll do the same too. Check out my full free lesson series as well, it will help you do a lot of things better aside from just shooting! www.robepifania.net/free-drills
@@halilaysan1594 Because waiting forever before shooting for 10-30 seconds doesn't really require to be in great shape. Certain grips do not need much grip strength and avoid injuries. Training your balance is often overlooked.
@ thank you for a fast response, so if the muzzle end of the gun is 12 o’clock and the backstrap is 6 o’clock, when you grip with your weak hand, are you applying pressure from say 7 o’clock with weak hand palm and 2 o’clock with support hand finger tips? Thank you for your patience, I’m trying to figure out where you are applying the pressure on the gun
@@83tactical For sure! That sounds accurate to me, but I'm sure that different people will have some variation on it. When it's done correctly, you'll feel like the gun has literally nowhere to go! Experiment a little bit with positioning and let me know what works best for you. You can practice dryfire bill drills to test how well it's working for you. The better it gets, the less the gun moves during those 6 aggressive presses.
Currently, I'm carrying the Girsan Regard I show in some of these videos in a Tier 1 AIWB holster. I have seen the Sig 365 AXG legion and I might consider one of those too haha
carry a Kahr CM9 in a velcroed-in kydex front pants pocket holster, When you "smell a rat", have your hand in your pocket, with a firing-grip on the pistol. Load it with Liberty arms 2000 fps, 50 gr, solid copper hollowpoint ammo. 450 ft lbs and no more recoil than a hot 380 load. Animal tests prove this load to be at LEAST as effective as 357 jhp ammo, without the bulk, weight and recoil control problems that everyone has using a 357. The little 9mm looks like a wallet in your pocket and nobody pays any attention to your having your hands in your pocket. A velcro swatch in your coat pocket lets you "palm" the rig and all from or to your coat pocket in bad weather, as you doff or don the coat. Having to fight thru TWO concealing garments REALLY slows down your ccw draw and creates many more chances for a snagged draw, fumble of the gun, bad grip on the gun,, etc. Having your hands in your coat pockets is normal behavior in bad behavior. No, I am NOT talking about firing thru the coat pocket, either.
around the house I put the loaded pocket gun in the OTHER pants pocket and openly wear the "practice gun (belt gun of same tyipe as the practice gun" Then the wear of dryfrire and live fire dont go onto the actual carry gun. (other than a few hundred rds per year of wussy-loaded reloads) I also have a 22lr pocket gun and airsoft pocket gun with which to practice. I keep the chamber empty on the belt gun, but the magzine is loaded. I can rack the slide as I draw, slowing me down only 1/2 second as vs a normal draw and shot. If I have to step outside for some reason, I just untuck my shirt tail and drop it over the openly worn rig.
the reality of justifiable civilian gun use is you point the gun at them and they flee. It's almost always a t 5m and less and accuracy means little. If you get both hands on the gun, at least see front sight and control the trigger, youll get the hits on his chest. What matters is having a superfast draw and airsoft and a timer for same lets you get that in your back yard, storage unit, etc, for 1/2c per shot no noise, no range fees. no risk of injury. All you need, really is airsoft gun, holster and a full length mirror, or a tripod for your video/phone, to show you where you have wasted movement.
@@Ninrijitsu17 not unless you have to shoot and most of the time, you do not. Most attacks are not made with a gun. I've stopped attacks 6x just by drawing my gun. Misses and warning shots have changed a LOT of minds and so have poor hits, even with feeble loads.
@ the point of training is to be good at shooting, not just able to blast rapid fire at 5 yards. That’s the very beginning. So much more to get good at after that.
@@Ninrijitsu17 true, but it's just for fun and not necessary. If I can draw and put 6 hits on your chest at 5 yds in 2 seconds or less, I can put most of them on your torso at 10 yds, just as fast. That's just geometry, In reality, that's PLENTY of accuracy for civilians. Cops might have to deal with longer ranges and guys using cover, but we dont. What you're talking about is just for fun. I"ve put about 200,000 rds downrange at such fun-stuff, but it's just a waste of time and money. Ive placed in the top 10% at 2 world shoots and 3 US nationals in IPSC. and I've seen LOTS of misses of the entire 18" x24" torso at 10 yds, in good light, nothing and nobody moving, ear protection on, nobody trying to kill lthem. They were just trying to get a hit faster than they knew I was going to get it.
no, the point of training is to be more than capable of saving yourself when 1-2 pos's trying to harm you or yours. The standard that I taught to Bill Wilson in 1977, the "so called "bill-drill" I got from Thell Reed. I read about it in a 1965 Guns and Ammo mag. React to the beep of the timer, draw and get 6 hits in the 10" vitals-circle at 7 yds in 2.0 seconds or less. The average cop cant get more than 1-2 hits in that same time/distance. You just THINK that you're "good", that's all. i can react, draw from concealment and get a torso hit at 25m in 1.5 seconds, all day long and I used to be able to do so in 1.0 seconds, but from a speed rig.
Wow! This is like a personal $1000 training lesson! Thanks for the great information 😊
@potech2397 absolutely and thanks for watching! Feel free to share it as you'd like 😁
Just your sequencing of the draw alone is priceless information.
I have tendinitis and I’m not able to grip as hard as I can without tensing up my traps. Fingers palms pressure leverage I am able to create enough friction to shoot as fast as I’m capable of with only using 50% of my grip strength.
Ive learned just as much from your videos as I have from Anderson and stoeger classes. Those guys are awesome too, but the way you explain your processes really clicks with me.
This is excellent to hear! So happy to be able to help you :) I'm an engineer by degree so sometimes the engineer explanation can resonate really well with those who are detail oriented like you seem to be!
Excellent video Rob! Keep up the great work.
@TacticalPerformanceCenter thanks so much for watching and the comment! You guys are the reason I got into competition and have taught me a bunch too that I'm thankful for!
Too good to be free ! Much appreciated. Amazing content
Thanks for watching and the comment! My intention is to help others to the best of my ability always!
Sawing machine. Brilliant !
Thanks so much I hope you enjoy it!
Free drills goes more in depth on that one too along with many others!
Thanks for this! Writing this all down for my next range session! Subbed!
Amazing thanks so much! Feel free to let me know how it goes, excited to hear your feedback!
Awesome! Best video out there!!
Thanks so much rich!!
great stuff Rob!
@HanSoloCho_L5255 thanks a lot Master solo hahaha
Absolutely Stellar! Expected Nothing Less But Super Excited For It All! Thank You, Sir!
Very much appreciated my friend as always!!
Thanks man, greatly appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! New subscriber from 🇵🇭
Amazing thank you for taking the time to watch from the other side of the world! I have a student from there as well!
I dig your videos Rob. They help.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Glad I can help you guys out 😁
Awesome video thank you sauce boss. Got my garage dry fire laneset up too so I'm excited to run some drills
Amazing that going to be fun for you! If you have questions I'm always here to help 😁
Excellent info. Thanks Rob.
Thanks my friend! Great thumbnail too haha
Thanks buddy 👍🏻
Thank you for watching!
Great tips 🙏
Thank you for watching!
WOW! This is great information! Thanks Rob--I just signed up on your website link in the description!
Thanks so much for watching! Also much appreciated on the website sign up!! Always here to help if you have questions 😁
@@robepifania I really like how your drills break things down into parts that can be then worked on individually and then work up to the whole maneuver (grip, presentation, trigger control). That's how I learn stuff. I've done classes with a bunch of other GM's and your approach is something that I've found very helpful!
@docgsreloading7985 so glad to hear!
I think my approach really comes from a few things:
I learned how to instruct before I became the shooter I am teaching in the defensive world
I'm an engineer by degree, so my mind works in that highly analytical, physical world
I really enjoy helping people to be the best they can be. When they have success, I do as well!
Thanks so much for the comments!! If you have questions I'm always here! 😁
if you work with a velcroed-in kydex front pants pocket holster and "hand in pocket' start, it doesn't take long at all to become fast enough to "beat the drop" which you will NEVER do from a ccw belt rig. Learn to react, draw and hit, the chest at "hand-it-over" distances, from a one-handed "retention" firing -tance, in sub-.60 second. Then learn to react to the timer's beep, draw from the "hand in pocket start, get both hands on the gun, and reliably hit the chest at 10 ft in .75 second. Then learn to side-step as you do both of those things. .20 second of the time shown on the timer is your reaction time, to the beep of the timer. If you start first, in a real fight, that .20 second is on HIM, not you. He'll also have .20 second or more of "recognition interval", to decide that what you're doing is a threat, and .20 second more to move his gun and arm over to your new location. That adds up to .60 second, and he's only going to have .40 second at arm's length or .55 second at 10 ft. The risk of course, is that your first hit on him might not suffice, which means you COULD still get shot (many times) If you're wearing armor, have a cellphone, are near a hospital and have a tourniquet, that risk is lessened, but should not be taken unless you think he's going to harm you anyway. Load your pocket 9mm with Liberty Arms 50 gr, 2000 fps, 450 ft lb solid copper hp ammo. It recoils no more than a hot 380 load, much less than a .38 snub with 158 gr plus P lhp ammo. but with much more probability of a one shot stop. Animal tests and timing of shooting with both types of pocket guns prove this to be true. You can prove it to yourself. The LA ammo is also AP, if you know what that means. It's $2 per round, so sell some gun that you dont use. So it costs $300 to have your pants pockets enlarged by a seamstress, so what?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge & expertise
One can never over train on the fundamentals.
One of my biggest benchmarks for improvement, was when i bought ManisX dry fire tool
Amazing range of drills and data to identify and assist
I agree totally! It's always beneficial to revisit the fundamentals often, especially as our knowledge grows and we come back with new understanding!
Been shooting for year and still not on target. After reviewing this video I’ll try these techniques. Thank you
Awesome! Please let me know how it goes for you. When you say not on target, is there a pattern you notice?
@@robepifania - I was in a class and using a different gun then my own. The pattern was to the left (9:00) position. Additionally, for the first time I had both eyes open. Currently, I’m waiting for my Beretta 92 GTS to get fixed (I believe a manufacturer default) where the slide was jamming ( disappointing for a new pistol). Moving forward and I will try these techniques once I receive the pistol. Best Eddie
@@Ed-jw1ug Ok good to know!
If you were using another gun, I'd suspect that the location of the trigger and the trigger break could potentially be messing with you, in addition to the firing hand tension issue you might be having in general.
I'd say try adding more finger on the trigger in general and trying to touch the tip of the finger to the base of the finger (makes a diagonal path) and that might help straighten out your trigger press.
between you and Achilles Heel Tactical, I am going to try these drills / dry fire this week and bring it on into my next Episode on my gun channel thanks this is a big help.
Amazing man! If you need anything for your channel I can help you with please feel free to let me know!
@@robepifania that would be awesome probably me shooting better is a start lol and some subs 😂. Thanks though appreciate it. I just subscribed today enjoy learning from folks.
@@magdumpmonday Awesome thank you! i'll do the same too. Check out my full free lesson series as well, it will help you do a lot of things better aside from just shooting!
www.robepifania.net/free-drills
I learn a lot from your videos. And how about making a video about strenghtening the body for shooting ? I mean muscle training routine
I definitely can do something on what I do and what I've done if thats helpful!
@@robepifania I dont remember if i ever watched a video like that from a GM
@@halilaysan1594
Because waiting forever before shooting for 10-30 seconds doesn't really require to be in great shape. Certain grips do not need much grip strength and avoid injuries. Training your balance is often overlooked.
Rob, where is the drum stick of your weak hand on the grip module, on the side of it or more towards the rear?
For me it ends up mating up a bit more toward the rear and my firing hand fingertips almost "interlock" together with the support hand palm as well :)
@ thank you for a fast response, so if the muzzle end of the gun is 12 o’clock and the backstrap is 6 o’clock, when you grip with your weak hand, are you applying pressure from say 7 o’clock with weak hand palm and 2 o’clock with support hand finger tips? Thank you for your patience, I’m trying to figure out where you are applying the pressure on the gun
@@83tactical For sure!
That sounds accurate to me, but I'm sure that different people will have some variation on it.
When it's done correctly, you'll feel like the gun has literally nowhere to go! Experiment a little bit with positioning and let me know what works best for you. You can practice dryfire bill drills to test how well it's working for you. The better it gets, the less the gun moves during those 6 aggressive presses.
Bang click and sewing machine sound good 👍 👍
Let me know how it goes when you try them!
Thanks rob. What do you carry for ccw
Currently, I'm carrying the Girsan Regard I show in some of these videos in a Tier 1 AIWB holster. I have seen the Sig 365 AXG legion and I might consider one of those too haha
carry a Kahr CM9 in a velcroed-in kydex front pants pocket holster, When you "smell a rat", have your hand in your pocket, with a firing-grip on the pistol. Load it with Liberty arms 2000 fps, 50 gr, solid copper hollowpoint ammo. 450 ft lbs and no more recoil than a hot 380 load. Animal tests prove this load to be at LEAST as effective as 357 jhp ammo, without the bulk, weight and recoil control problems that everyone has using a 357. The little 9mm looks like a wallet in your pocket and nobody pays any attention to your having your hands in your pocket. A velcro swatch in your coat pocket lets you "palm" the rig and all from or to your coat pocket in bad weather, as you doff or don the coat. Having to fight thru TWO concealing garments REALLY slows down your ccw draw and creates many more chances for a snagged draw, fumble of the gun, bad grip on the gun,, etc. Having your hands in your coat pockets is normal behavior in bad behavior. No, I am NOT talking about firing thru the coat pocket, either.
Every time you dry fire your gun a fudd somewhere sheds a tear
A glorious tear 😂
around the house I put the loaded pocket gun in the OTHER pants pocket and openly wear the "practice gun (belt gun of same tyipe as the practice gun" Then the wear of dryfrire and live fire dont go onto the actual carry gun. (other than a few hundred rds per year of wussy-loaded reloads) I also have a 22lr pocket gun and airsoft pocket gun with which to practice. I keep the chamber empty on the belt gun, but the magzine is loaded. I can rack the slide as I draw, slowing me down only 1/2 second as vs a normal draw and shot. If I have to step outside for some reason, I just untuck my shirt tail and drop it over the openly worn rig.
the reality of justifiable civilian gun use is you point the gun at them and they flee. It's almost always a t 5m and less and accuracy means little. If you get both hands on the gun, at least see front sight and control the trigger, youll get the hits on his chest. What matters is having a superfast draw and airsoft and a timer for same lets you get that in your back yard, storage unit, etc, for 1/2c per shot no noise, no range fees. no risk of injury. All you need, really is airsoft gun, holster and a full length mirror, or a tripod for your video/phone, to show you where you have wasted movement.
Accuracy is paramount.
@@Ninrijitsu17 not unless you have to shoot and most of the time, you do not. Most attacks are not made with a gun. I've stopped attacks 6x just by drawing my gun. Misses and warning shots have changed a LOT of minds and so have poor hits, even with feeble loads.
@ the point of training is to be good at shooting, not just able to blast rapid fire at 5 yards. That’s the very beginning. So much more to get good at after that.
@@Ninrijitsu17 true, but it's just for fun and not necessary. If I can draw and put 6 hits on your chest at 5 yds in 2 seconds or less, I can put most of them on your torso at 10 yds, just as fast. That's just geometry, In reality, that's PLENTY of accuracy for civilians. Cops might have to deal with longer ranges and guys using cover, but we dont. What you're talking about is just for fun. I"ve put about 200,000 rds downrange at such fun-stuff, but it's just a waste of time and money. Ive placed in the top 10% at 2 world shoots and 3 US nationals in IPSC. and I've seen LOTS of misses of the entire 18" x24" torso at 10 yds, in good light, nothing and nobody moving, ear protection on, nobody trying to kill lthem. They were just trying to get a hit faster than they knew I was going to get it.
no, the point of training is to be more than capable of saving yourself when 1-2 pos's trying to harm you or yours. The standard that I taught to Bill Wilson in 1977, the "so called "bill-drill" I got from Thell Reed. I read about it in a 1965 Guns and Ammo mag. React to the beep of the timer, draw and get 6 hits in the 10" vitals-circle at 7 yds in 2.0 seconds or less. The average cop cant get more than 1-2 hits in that same time/distance. You just THINK that you're "good", that's all. i can react, draw from concealment and get a torso hit at 25m in 1.5 seconds, all day long and I used to be able to do so in 1.0 seconds, but from a speed rig.
Great stuff as always sir 🫡
Thanks so much for the comment and support!