3ABN Today - State of the Dead (TDY016012)
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- What happens after death? Is there life beyond the grave? Join CA Murray, John Lomacang and Kenny Shelton as they do an in-depth study of the Word of God and what it reveals about this most important topic.
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This video is much NEEDED especially in this time. Like ALWAYS I appreciate and LOVE 3ABN for speaking what is TRUTH. I was getting excited all by myself just as Pastor Ivor Myers says I will get excited all by myself if I have to, because I know what I have heard is Truth and it pleases m to know that there are some Pastors out here in this earth who will speak only what is Truth. May God be The Glory!
The paths of their way are turned aside; they go to nothing and perish. Job 6:18
Praise the Lord ! ❤️
Thank you for this. Would’ve loved for you to discuss Hebrews 4:12 and 1 Thes 5:23. Because we believe that we have a soul.
Interesting verses. I am no theologian so don’t take my word for it. I’m not trying to cause confusion. But when I think spirit, I think mind or consciousness. Not sure if the Bible characters used it interchangeably. Often times they say the spirit is willing, or the spirit knows, in those words I feel it can be used as a more spiritual word for mind. But hey Praise the Lord for Him being our Creator and Sustainer! God bless!
God breathed into man and he “became a living soul”
He wasn’t given a soul, he became one. Genesis 2:7
The spirit (breath) of God goes back to God.
Genesis 2:7
Ecclesiastes 12:7
Philippians 1:21-24
“For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.”
Amazing study, praise the Lord!
This is amazing pastors
One day I was having a little fun at my Mom's expsense and she said "Just you wait. One day I''ll be gone and looking down on you . . ."
"Or looking up" said my Dad, helpfully.
The good thing is they can't come in unless you let them in.
5:35 - Pastor Lomacang said "we a'ight."
23:08 - "G stack mode"?? What does that mean? I'm beginning to think that Pastor Lomancang is hipper than I am.
Are you teaching extinction and re-creation, if so do not use Biblical words like "sleep", re-creation is not resurrection.
Did Jesus cease to exist when He died on the cross, and was Jesus re-created on Sunday morning ?
Friends .....ask yourself...is the doctrine, that you behold, is it from God and the Bible that you study?....
It is not our 'the the SDA' doctine...but its God's docrine though the Bible and practiced, believed, and thought by the Adventists.
3ABN...I like how the spirit of GOD leads you to help us remind ourselfs about these.
An interesting analysis of an important issue. But how do you reconcile these teachings with the account of the transfiguration of Jesus in Luke 9:29 -31
which seems to indicate that Moses and Elijah - two deceased figures- were actually in Jesus's presence and conversing with him, and were not merely present as symbols of the law and the prophets?. The relevant verses state ""As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. Two men, Moses and Elijah, appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure, which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem". (NIV) Furthermore, why does 1 Thess 4: 14 refer to the Second Coming as involving Jesus bringing those who have fallen asleep in him if they remained in the grave at death? The verse states, " For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him". It seems these passages were not addressed in this presentation.
Jesus plainly told those three disciples who witnessed this event, "Tell the VISION to no man."
In Acts we read that Paul had a VISION of a man beckoning him to come to Macedonia. Must understand the meaning of a VISION.
The parable of the Rich man and Lazarus was directed at the Pharisees and has NOTHING to do with the so-called afterlife. It was a stinging rebuke of the covetousness of the religious leaders.
Blessings
@@davidbradberry7637 I agree with this interpretation brother. The Lazarus hell parable was not the point the Lord was trying to make. And visions occur all throughout the Bible. God bless you both.
So man was a dead soul when he was formed but when God breathe into man the soul became alive, so when i die my soul goes back to God which is his breath. and my body goes back to the earth. so where die Enoc and Elija go they didnt see death.
Thank you.
In heaven but they had their bodies. They weren’t some disembodied spirits
The Hebrew word NEPHESH translated in some Bible versions as "soul" means a LIVING BEING, AN AIR BREATHING CREATURE. YOU ARE A SOUL. A PERSON!
Please study what apostle Paul tells us about body soul and spirit. Christians see differently from the way you preach about the intermediate state of death.
Is terrible how you explain the state of death.
Hello friend,
Even though a believer sleeps in death until the resurrection the next conscious thought they have is the resurrection and being present with the Lord. There is no immortal soul.
Keep in mind Paul also wrote the following…
1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
(It’s clear that the believer isn’t given immortality until “the last trumpet” at the resurrection.)
Here are some other resources that will help answer your question.
Absent From The Body
www.ghosttruth.com/media/book/e/4/t/absent-from-the-body
The Thief on the Cross
www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/48/t/spirits-of-the-dead#The-Thief-on-the-Cross
"Can the Dead Speak to Us?" ruclips.net/video/zxI0sAMXVwA/видео.html
Also, this website from Amazing Facts has a lot of good information www.ghosttruth.com/
“Plato and the Immortal Soul” www.helltruth.com/history/id/1854/plato-and-the-immortal-soul
Blessings as you continue to study God’s Word.
Is this Adventist
Hello friend, 3ABN is a supporting ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
Praise for present truth.
They preaching!
Hey thanks
Can someone help explain to me this 3abn
The souls of both believers and unbelievers are conscious between death and the resurrection. Unbelievers are in conscious woe (see Luke 16:23; Mark 9:48; Matt. 25:41) and believers are in conscious bliss. “Sleep” is a reference to the body, not the soul. Sleep is an appropriate figure of speech for death of the body, since death is temporary until the resurrection when the body will “awake” from it.
The evidence that the soul (spirit) is conscious between death and resurrection is very strong:
1. Enoch was taken to be with God (Gen. 5:24; Heb. 11:5).
2. David spoke of bliss in God’s presence after death (Ps. 16:10-11).
3. Elijah was taken up into heaven (2 Kings 2:1).
4. Moses and Elijah were conscious on the Mount of Transfiguration (Matt. 17:3) long after their time on earth.
5. Jesus said He went to the Father the day He died (Luke 23:46).
6. Jesus promised the repentant thief that he would be with Him in paradise the very day he died (Luke 23:43).
7. Paul said it was far better to die and be with Christ (Phil. 1:23).
8. Paul affirmed that when we are “absent from the body” then “we are present with the Lord” (2 Cor. 5:8).
9. The writer of Hebrews refers to heaven as a place where “the spirits of just men [are] made perfect” (Heb. 12:23).
10. The “souls” of those martyred during the tribulation were conscious in heaven, singing and praying to God (Rev. 6:9).
Hello friend,
Some Scriptures to consider…
Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
Body + Breath of life = living being
Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return.”
The body returns to the dust, there is no immortal soul.
Even though a believer sleeps in death until the resurrection the next conscious thought they have is the resurrection and being present with the Lord.
Paul makes it abundantly clear, we are mortal. Immortality is a gift from God.
1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Job 4:17 Man is mortal by nature and subject to death
1 Tim 6:13-16 No one but God has immortality
Eccl 9:5-6 Every function of life ceases at death
Eccl 9:10 Until resurrection, the dead are in the grave
Job 27:3 God’s breath of life is in the nostrils of man
Psalm 146:4 Breath returns to God, we return to earth
Psalm 115:17 Dead don’t praise, go down in silence
Acts 2:29, 34 David is buried and did not go to Heaven
John 11:11-14 Jesus taught that death is a sleep
Job 7:9-10 Dead cannot return to their house
Job 14:10-13 Dead will be raised at the world’s end
1 Cor 15:51 Raised in Jesus, we’ll be given immortality
1 Thess 4:13 Dead in Christ described as being asleep
Rev 22:12 Jesus brings reward of everlasting life
Rev 20:6 First resurrection brings victory over death Job 19:25, 26 Righteous raised to see God at last day
1 Thess 4:16 Dead in Christ resurrected at last trumpet
1 Cor 15:20-24 Saints come to life at Christ’s return
1 Thess 4:17 Living/resurrected saints see Christ’s return
1 Cor 15:50 We must change before entering Heaven
Phil 3:20-21 We’ll be given glorious bodies
John 14:1-3 We can’t go to Heaven until He returns
Blessings
Delusional and the scripture is take arbitrary to explain what you want according to your denomination.
Pastor with all respect, you are speaking nonsense. What about Lazarus in Luke 16 who was taken into a place where he was very conscious of everything. What about apostle Paul in
Philippines 1:21-24 or 2 Co 5:6-8 where it's very clear that absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Why don't you take into consideration these scriptures? Do you think that when Paul wrote them he was oblivious of the Old Testament scriptures talking New Testament nonsense? Think a little about this. But if your denomination requires this nonsense then go with it and be happy. I don't take it because it's a thin and weak explanation. Sorry. And one thing more, Jesus Christ talking said that God is the God of the living and not of the dead in Matthew 22:32. Please stop the nonsense.
Hello friend, I realize it’s a difficult topic but it’s a must to take all the scriptures on the topic and compare them to get the right answer.
Even though a believer sleeps in death until the resurrection the next conscious thought they have is the resurrection and being present with the Lord. There is no immortal soul.
Keep in mind Paul also wrote the following…
1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
(It’s clear that the believer isn’t given immortality until “the last trumpet” at the resurrection.)
Here are some other resources that will help answer your question.
Absent From The Body
www.ghosttruth.com/media/book/e/4/t/absent-from-the-body
The Thief on the Cross
www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/48/t/spirits-of-the-dead#The-Thief-on-the-Cross
"Can the Dead Speak to Us?" ruclips.net/video/zxI0sAMXVwA/видео.html
“Plato and the Immortal Soul” www.helltruth.com/history/id/1854/plato-and-the-immortal-soul
The Rich Man and Lazarus
Some Bible points to consider…
• Abraham’s bosom is not heaven (Hebrews 11:8-10, 16).
• People in hell can’t talk to those in heaven (Isaiah 65:17).
• The dead are in their graves (Job 17:13; John 5:28, 29). The rich man was in bodily form, with eyes, a tongue, etc., yet we know that the body does not go to hell immediately at death. The body remains in the grave, as the Bible says. If you’d like to know more about what happens after death, visit www.truthaboutdeath.com/
• People are rewarded at Christ’s second coming, not at death (Revelation 22:12).
• The lost are punished in hell at the end of the world, not when they die (Matthew 13:40-42). Luke 16:31, the last verse of the story, contains a spiritual lesson, showing that the story is actually a parable. Parables cannot be taken literally. If we took parables literally, then we must believe that trees talk! (See this parable in Judges 9:8-15).
Find out more at www.helltruth.com/q-a/id/1847
Blessings
Can @3ABN or anyone else speak about when Saul gets the medium to bring samuel to tell Saul his future? was Saul speaking to a demon and if not, then where did Samuel come from??
1 Samuel 28:3-25
Secondly, Id like to know more about lazarus and the rich man from Luke 16:19. "...The rich man also died and was buried. 23And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented."
Hello Tyson,
You might find this lesson from our friends at Amazing Facts helpful.
That wasn’t the prophet Samuel Saul spoke with.
www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/storacle/e/5334/t/the-witch-of-endor
Some Bible points to consider…
• Abraham’s bosom is not heaven (Hebrews 11:8-10, 16).
• People in hell can’t talk to those in heaven (Isaiah 65:17).
• The dead are in their graves (Job 17:13; John 5:28, 29). The rich man was in bodily form, with eyes, a tongue, etc., yet we know that the body does not go to hell immediately at death. The body remains in the grave, as the Bible says. If you’d like to know more about what happens after death, visit www.truthaboutdeath.com/
• People are rewarded at Christ’s second coming, not at death (Revelation 22:12).
• The lost are punished in hell at the end of the world, not when they die (Matthew 13:40-42). Luke 16:31, the last verse of the story, contains a spiritual lesson, showing that the story is actually a parable. Parables cannot be taken literally. If we took parables literally, then we must believe that trees talk! (See this parable in Judges 9:8-15).
Find out more at www.helltruth.com/q-a/id/1847
Blessings
@@3abn thank you for taking the time to reply.