Pittman had 7 games with at least 8 receptions and no TDS, only ended with 4. Idk how many wr’s Richardson can realistically support but if the offense scores more than they did last year then hell def be able to support at least one, especially in ppr
Potentially but that’s assuming the offense is going to be better (which is very well could be) or that ARich is going to be able to connect with Pittman in the RedZone. 1st year as a full starter is typically when young QBs find it most difficult being efficient in the RZ 🤝
Might wanna hold onto olave for a bit.. kubiak is the new OC coming from the 49ers as the passing game coordinator.. should see a big spike in olaves usage.. if we're high on London cause of Zack Robinson coming over from the Rams as the passing game coordinator, why aren't we feeling the same way about olave who is getting the same upgrade 🤷🏾
I trust Olave as talent but my biggest issue is Derek Carr, The difference with Falcons is they have Kirk Cousins who even last year before his injury was still producing fantasy WRs and Carr really hasn't the past 2 years . Hes not the same QB and Olave at WR11 is a bit high
I don’t think Jacob’s dead cap hit is particularly low for a rb. I think it’s just low compared to other positions especially considering the value of the deal. As a Packer fan I am happy about the deal we got because we can move on at any time.
Pittman is hardly a guy I would panic on. Have your concerns sure but panic that a QB might not feed him the same way is a little much. I don't panic from a QB change. AR could be good, don't have a ton of reason to assume they won't be good together. It's just the unknown. You don't panic from the unknown. Pittman is always catching strays from the dynasty community. Keenan Allen did too.
the word "panicking" is a bit overused for sure, i would say we are playing the market and looking at other options that will give us the same output + more.
Sigh…. Kmet makes me sad. I bought him very early in the offseason. I expected the bears to add someone and kmet would be the solid #3 and TD machine and expected his value to go up when it was certain Caleb would be #1 pick. Traded away friermuth and a future likely late 3rd. Didn’t expect them to add 2 studs….
I think we should be worried about Saquon not Devonta smith. Aging running backs changing teams rarely works out on top of Jalen hurts taking all the goal line work
I agree Pittman doesn’t move up. He is what he is: a WR2 that falls into the high end of this massive tier of receivers. But I’m not panicking on that. He had a big target share in games Richardson played. We just need to have realistic expectations.
@@joeyperrone3168 Apparently reporters at camp today said it looks like he has really lost a step in his game and will be competing for a spot at all in the backfield
I have hope for Javonte I feel like he’s had enough time from his injury to return to his rookie form. I agree there’s no certainty in his role with Payton and if he can dominate snaps and that is worrisome forsure.
@@joeyperrone3168 It's one report from a beat writer that Denver fans already called out as being unreliable. It's all conjecture from a beat writer's opinion and not based on any inside intel.
I just moved Devonta Smith & The 1.11 for the 1.02 and 1.10. Snagged Nabers w/ it in 1QB. I agree that Devonta Smith is time to sell... Rather reset on a potential WR1. He's been good, but I need a difference maker, not a flex.
As a die hard Saints fan I disagree on the Olave take. This isn’t with Homer glasses on either. DC was getting murdered last year behind a terrible and injured o line. We had an OC with a 16 year old playbook that was to predictable. Klint k’s system is going to use a ton of motion which will help Carr. The Saints were near last or last in motion used last year. Olave will eat this year barring injury.
@@DynastyLandFootball Like you said, Carr can’t be trusted and he’s slightly above average QB. Olave had amazing talent and a fluid route runner, but when Carr consistently underwhelms it’s hard to take Olave at his ADP.
I think people should be panicking more on garret wilson. We dont know what rogers looks like. What if being 42 and coming an acl tear makes him play worse?
I seriously think we need to revisit the “QB play for DJ Moore” argument because….he really didn’t get better QB play. It’s a straw man argument. It’s completely a lie. DJ Moore went from a revolving door of bottom 10, to the absolute bottom in fields. Fields was ranked last or almost last in basically every single advanced metric when it comes to passing. DJ didn’t get QB play upgrade, he had a career season and got a little lucky falling into the end zone a lot. He now has ELITE competition. I get the sentiment being using DJ as a comp for Olave for “wanting that QB upgrade” but we have to acknowledge that DJ didn’t get that.
he went to a system that actually featured him properly, i don't mind if you want to say Justin Fields wasn't an upgrade but when you combine Fields + the system he went to, it certainly was a needed upgrade. This video has nothing to do with Fields or DJM, just a comparison to help people be patient with Olave 🙏
Ive asked your advice on this one before but I have to ask again since you just said Pittman for a 2025 1 - I have an offer of my Pittman for Nuk Hopkins & mid 2025 1 , and I am so close to accepting
I have him on my dynasty team, so Im biased. I still think he's the best back on the roster and its not even close. People questioning his vision, I really saw no issues with his vision from the video I saw. Jaleel McGlaughlin wasnt even a factor when JW started getting going midseason last year.
I’ve heard multiple people say that AR is a way better passer and processor than Justin Fields and Fields was able to support DJ Moore as a WR1… so you guys are essentially saying that you think that there’s a good chance that Fields is a better passer than AR. Y’all will die on that hill lol
@@DynastyLandFootballIf you’re asking about hard statistics, there’s none due to injury but not due to untruthfulness. From a film study perspective, there’s a higher ceiling as a passer for AR. I’d also ask you if you believe the Colts will be a top ten scoring offense or even top ten in plays. If so, then can you find a team with that volume/points that didn’t produce a top 15 WR outside of injury? I think there’s more to it than “AR hasn’t played enough for us to know” seems like a low hanging fruit argument.
I guess I find it really difficult for the foundations of that argument to be watching film. Film is very open for different interpretations and from all film we watched at Florida, he had a long way to go. Every NFL Draft analyst we trust felt the same. I don’t think we can say he’s made huge strides from his limited time in the NFL (which isn’t his fault). He only started 12 games in college and there was little to no progress as a passer. If you’re looking top 12 offenses that struggled to produce good WRs, there’s a ton of evidence in BAL for a 4-5 year span now 😅
66% as a 1st year starter is incredibly good. I’m not sure we want to use Pat Mahomes, maybe the greatest QB of all time when it’s said and done, as a marker for ARich’s 1st full season as a starter but alright 😅 if we want to play this game and assume ARich develops like some of the best in the NFL have then.. In Lamar Jackson’s second season, his highest WR finish was Hollywood Brown at WR46 In Josh Allen’s second season, his highest WR finish was John Brown at WR20 I’m not sure I understand the argument here but I’m happy for us to have a different opinion for sure 🤝
@@DynastyLandFootball no I want only say, that good QBs also had arrounf 60% in the first season bc you said that on Pittman and I picked Mahomes bc he is the best and I thought the difference isnt that big, maybe I made a thought-mistake:) of course they had horrible WR-cores then and AR had a solid WR-core.
Loved all the points about Pittman. We don’t know if AR can support a fantasy WR, and considering AD Mitchell SHOULD have been a 1st rd pick, I don’t want any part of that offense outside of Richardson and Taylor
Devonta in This move offense is gonna be a problem, its him running his college routes.. he can beat man press off the line, but putting him in the slot, and or motion him pre-play from the Y will unlock him
I have Love & ARich back to back. I definitely believe he can put up huge fantasy points, I just don’t know what his future holds as a QB in the league. Meanwhile Love has done enough for me to believe he’s a franchise guy.
You faded Pittman because of A Rich last year, Arich fed him and then quickly was out for the season. Pittman still DOMINATES and now you fade him again … because of ARich …again??? Y’all like the pain huh? Don’t talk to me about rookie Adonai Mitchell during 27yo Pittman’s analysis bruh is going to get FORCE FED like it or not.😂
Tell me you didn't watch the video with an open mind without telling me. Anyone being reasonable will say that Pittman's breakout season last year had nothing to do with ARich considering ARich only played 2 healthy games. And as I explain in the video, in those 2 healthy games it was completely hit or miss 😂 This comment is disingenuous man, you can disagree with take but come on.
It's called playing the market! Sell high when the value is still high before if and when it falls. Dont see Pittman getting any higher than he is currently and Many factors can knock Pittman down. Such as AR still recovering from shoulder + JT being healthy + Adonai Mitchell addition + Josh Downs amazing reception perception + Jelani Woods healthy
@@DynastyLandFootball I'm not mad at you at all man, but that's definitely not his value. Even Zack is looking shook when you said that lol. I don't hate selling Smith but why would you trade him for a pick that your are hoping becomes what he already is?
A 2025 1st is a more liquid asset than Smith. People will get more excited for that pick with rookie fever than they will Smith. I'd rather have the pick.
Tbh if all fantasy content guys panicked about the exact same guys, what's the point of watching more then one? Just sayin. Different perspectives is good. 👍
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That’s a cold ass Rays hat. Much respect
big love
Smith on this list is NASTY WORK.
We love Devonta, we wanna play the market 🤝
Fuck no Pepsis not okay 😂😂
Absolutely NOT 😡
Pittman had 7 games with at least 8 receptions and no TDS, only ended with 4. Idk how many wr’s Richardson can realistically support but if the offense scores more than they did last year then hell def be able to support at least one, especially in ppr
Potentially but that’s assuming the offense is going to be better (which is very well could be) or that ARich is going to be able to connect with Pittman in the RedZone. 1st year as a full starter is typically when young QBs find it most difficult being efficient in the RZ 🤝
If the place serves only Pepsi...is it worth eating there?
That’s the question we should be asking
Mountain Dew >>>
@frogskinshoelace if they only serve pepsi products, mountain dew is my default.
@jeffy6903 I guess to answer your question, if they literally only have Pepsi I probably wouldn't want to go. It sucks.
Mountain Dew saves Pepsi
Might wanna hold onto olave for a bit.. kubiak is the new OC coming from the 49ers as the passing game coordinator.. should see a big spike in olaves usage.. if we're high on London cause of Zack Robinson coming over from the Rams as the passing game coordinator, why aren't we feeling the same way about olave who is getting the same upgrade 🤷🏾
I trust Olave as talent but my biggest issue is Derek Carr, The difference with Falcons is they have Kirk Cousins who even last year before his injury was still producing fantasy WRs and Carr really hasn't the past 2 years . Hes not the same QB and Olave at WR11 is a bit high
I would love to sell Javonte, but all my leaguemates straight up told me they don’t want him at all…😂
Can’t blame em 😭
@@DynastyLandFootball Bro I just traded him after all these for a 2nd this year, I'm so happy! :D
I don’t think Jacob’s dead cap hit is particularly low for a rb. I think it’s just low compared to other positions especially considering the value of the deal. As a Packer fan I am happy about the deal we got because we can move on at any time.
That’s fair, the sentiment that we were trying to convey, which you mentioned, is the Packers can move on whenever they like 🤝
Pittman is hardly a guy I would panic on. Have your concerns sure but panic that a QB might not feed him the same way is a little much. I don't panic from a QB change. AR could be good, don't have a ton of reason to assume they won't be good together. It's just the unknown. You don't panic from the unknown. Pittman is always catching strays from the dynasty community. Keenan Allen did too.
the word "panicking" is a bit overused for sure, i would say we are playing the market and looking at other options that will give us the same output + more.
Sigh…. Kmet makes me sad. I bought him very early in the offseason. I expected the bears to add someone and kmet would be the solid #3 and TD machine and expected his value to go up when it was certain Caleb would be #1 pick. Traded away friermuth and a future likely late 3rd. Didn’t expect them to add 2 studs….
Don’t worry, it happens and that trade is not going to kill your team at all.
@@DynastyLandFootball I still have Ferguson to help hold down the fort
My man with the old school Devil Rays cap! The drip is on point.
big love man
I think we should be worried about Saquon not Devonta smith. Aging running backs changing teams rarely works out on top of Jalen hurts taking all the goal line work
Like I mentioned in the video Hurts goaline carries should decrease with Saquon on the team. This the best Eagles RB we have seen in years!
Would you move Javonte for the 2.06? Issue is he is my rb3 with charb as 4 and not much behind just handcuffs
Yes I would
I agree Pittman doesn’t move up. He is what he is: a WR2 that falls into the high end of this massive tier of receivers. But I’m not panicking on that. He had a big target share in games Richardson played. We just need to have realistic expectations.
We agree, we’d like to tier down in that massive tier of WRs you mentioned.
COKE > PEPSI every day!
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I usually think brand loyalty is silly but yes I agree. Pepsi belongs in the trash unless it’s wild cherry
It’s not even close
Pepsi is better. It’s sweeter. Coke is for old people and battery acid
Pittman is that guy!!
Love him most in best ball at the moment
In the take I brought, I mentioned the concerns aren’t with Pittmans’ abilities but outside factors 🤝
he route tree is limited, not worried about him overall, best to have him as a flex or wr3.
Panicking on Devonta Smith is just clickbait during the slow part of the year
we have no problem if you disagree with us but it's a bit unfair to assume something like that. Thanks for watching :)
Idk I’m shopping Devonta as well for these reasons
17 point is underwhelming is crazy
I like smith, but there just isn’t enough passing volume for him to get back to that top ten season without AJB having an injury.
D Smith had the same amount of receptions as Trey McBride last year and McBride didn’t even start until week 8.
Im actually not panicking on Javonte cause I drafted the whole damn rb lineup
tough room to project so that makes sense!
Lmao I got every one except mcclauglin which is makes me a little nervous
Yea it was crazy to hear the news about Javonte, dude might not even make the roster
Insane to hear
Where is this news coming from that JW might get cut? I saw a quote from Payton today that Williams has looked good at camp.
@@joeyperrone3168 Apparently reporters at camp today said it looks like he has really lost a step in his game and will be competing for a spot at all in the backfield
I have hope for Javonte I feel like he’s had enough time from his injury to return to his rookie form. I agree there’s no certainty in his role with Payton and if he can dominate snaps and that is worrisome forsure.
@@joeyperrone3168 It's one report from a beat writer that Denver fans already called out as being unreliable. It's all conjecture from a beat writer's opinion and not based on any inside intel.
12 Team SF 2.0TEP…Should I trade Burrow, Gibbs, McCarthy for Josh Allen, Trey McBride, 25 2nd?
I just moved Devonta Smith & The 1.11 for the 1.02 and 1.10. Snagged Nabers w/ it in 1QB. I agree that Devonta Smith is time to sell... Rather reset on a potential WR1. He's been good, but I need a difference maker, not a flex.
12T SF start 11 tiered ppr non-rep
I sent: Devonta Smith + Jayden Reed + 3 1sts (25/26/27, was 1.12)
To receive: AJB + Breece + Dulcich + 3rd
How yall feel bout this?
As a die hard Saints fan I disagree on the Olave take. This isn’t with Homer glasses on either. DC was getting murdered last year behind a terrible and injured o line. We had an OC with a 16 year old playbook that was to predictable. Klint k’s system is going to use a ton of motion which will help Carr. The Saints were near last or last in motion used last year. Olave will eat this year barring injury.
I can definitely see that! I’m not as worried as Badake myself but I can see both sides 🙏🏼
- Zach
Sold olave for the 1.02 before the draft; pretty happy with that choice lol
W
Chris Olave is going to be stuck in that Scary Terry situation. Has all the talent in the world but QB’s cap their ceiling/career.
It’s a very realistic scenario, glad to hear you are open to that outcome. Many people aren’t 😅
@@DynastyLandFootball Like you said, Carr can’t be trusted and he’s slightly above average QB. Olave had amazing talent and a fluid route runner, but when Carr consistently underwhelms it’s hard to take Olave at his ADP.
I think people should be panicking more on garret wilson. We dont know what rogers looks like. What if being 42 and coming an acl tear makes him play worse?
I can respect that!! Definitely something to consider 🤝
Traded Devonta, Elijah Mitchel, and Metchie for Tank Dell and Kendre before the draft 😊
I like that if Kendre can get going this year
I got off smith for this in a 1QB start 8 league:
Get: Tyreek and a 3rd
Gave: 1.08 (Brian Thomas) and smith
Note I am win now mode
I seriously think we need to revisit the “QB play for DJ Moore” argument because….he really didn’t get better QB play. It’s a straw man argument. It’s completely a lie. DJ Moore went from a revolving door of bottom 10, to the absolute bottom in fields. Fields was ranked last or almost last in basically every single advanced metric when it comes to passing. DJ didn’t get QB play upgrade, he had a career season and got a little lucky falling into the end zone a lot. He now has ELITE competition. I get the sentiment being using DJ as a comp for Olave for “wanting that QB upgrade” but we have to acknowledge that DJ didn’t get that.
he went to a system that actually featured him properly, i don't mind if you want to say Justin Fields wasn't an upgrade but when you combine Fields + the system he went to, it certainly was a needed upgrade. This video has nothing to do with Fields or DJM, just a comparison to help people be patient with Olave 🙏
Would you trade Olave and Puka for CeeDee?
I just sold Pittman with (Davis Allen & Austin Barner😂🤢) for Hopkins, Pearsall, Gus Bus, Goedert
For context I did acquire Pittman 16 months ago for Dulcich & Hodgens 😂
Ive asked your advice on this one before but I have to ask again since you just said Pittman for a 2025 1 -
I have an offer of my Pittman for Nuk Hopkins & mid 2025 1 , and I am so close to accepting
Not a bad offer, Hopkins can still be viable for a couple years
u need to relax on javonte. i understand the injury, i understand last year was a get right year. he got right. hes a kid still.
In the span of a RB, he’s not a kid anymore my man. Too many red flags to hold onto imo 🤝
@@DynastyLandFootball 24 years old, played 1 year 900 yrds , yr two acl tear, yr 3 rehab year. yes he is just getting started. open book
I have him on my dynasty team, so Im biased. I still think he's the best back on the roster and its not even close. People questioning his vision, I really saw no issues with his vision from the video I saw. Jaleel McGlaughlin wasnt even a factor when JW started getting going midseason last year.
@@DynastyLandFootballfor those that subscribe to the zero rb theory, id have to say if javonte is my the I m not upset.
People want to prop up a rich but fade j Daniels it makes no sense to me
im with ya --> x.com/zaxavage/status/1789786001818235022
I’ve heard multiple people say that AR is a way better passer and processor than Justin Fields and Fields was able to support DJ Moore as a WR1… so you guys are essentially saying that you think that there’s a good chance that Fields is a better passer than AR.
Y’all will die on that hill lol
Would love to talk that thru. What evidence is there to support that statement?
Also, the pace of play is gonna be very very high. The team will be better with Minshew which gives Pittman more TD opportunities.
@@DynastyLandFootballIf you’re asking about hard statistics, there’s none due to injury but not due to untruthfulness. From a film study perspective, there’s a higher ceiling as a passer for AR.
I’d also ask you if you believe the Colts will be a top ten scoring offense or even top ten in plays. If so, then can you find a team with that volume/points that didn’t produce a top 15 WR outside of injury? I think there’s more to it than “AR hasn’t played enough for us to know” seems like a low hanging fruit argument.
I guess I find it really difficult for the foundations of that argument to be watching film. Film is very open for different interpretations and from all film we watched at Florida, he had a long way to go. Every NFL Draft analyst we trust felt the same. I don’t think we can say he’s made huge strides from his limited time in the NFL (which isn’t his fault).
He only started 12 games in college and there was little to no progress as a passer.
If you’re looking top 12 offenses that struggled to produce good WRs, there’s a ton of evidence in BAL for a 4-5 year span now 😅
Richardson has only 59% completions... Allen had 52%, Lamar 58%, Mahomes had 66%... that numbers says nothing..
66% as a 1st year starter is incredibly good. I’m not sure we want to use Pat Mahomes, maybe the greatest QB of all time when it’s said and done, as a marker for ARich’s 1st full season as a starter but alright 😅
if we want to play this game and assume ARich develops like some of the best in the NFL have then..
In Lamar Jackson’s second season, his highest WR finish was Hollywood Brown at WR46
In Josh Allen’s second season, his highest WR finish was John Brown at WR20
I’m not sure I understand the argument here but I’m happy for us to have a different opinion for sure 🤝
@@DynastyLandFootball no I want only say, that good QBs also had arrounf 60% in the first season bc you said that on Pittman and I picked Mahomes bc he is the best and I thought the difference isnt that big, maybe I made a thought-mistake:) of course they had horrible WR-cores then and AR had a solid WR-core.
I just have to hold on to Javonte. Please say it ain't so😢
time to sell before it gets ugly man
Be ready you're gonna start hearing the "Jaleel McGlaughlin is the next Kyren Williams" takes pretty soon.
@@joeyperrone3168 I was smart enough to already have Jaleel as well
Cole Kmet is Dr Pepper at least.
I’ll give ya that
Loved all the points about Pittman. We don’t know if AR can support a fantasy WR, and considering AD Mitchell SHOULD have been a 1st rd pick, I don’t want any part of that offense outside of Richardson and Taylor
You’re speaking my language
Devonta is Mr.Consistent as a flex in deep leagues. Any other shallower format will def pass.
He’s 25 steadys 1k 8TD floor lol he’s good
We love Devonta, we wanna play the market 🤝
Devonta in This move offense is gonna be a problem, its him running his college routes.. he can beat man press off the line, but putting him in the slot, and or motion him pre-play from the Y will unlock him
We love Devonta, we wanna play the market 🤝
Yea Devonta, Pittman, and Olave take is insane to me. Nothing to worry about tbh there just nitpicking at this point with some of these takes.
Badake has a vendetta against olave
Not even! Love the talent hate the situation
D smith proven nfl player got a big ci tract trade for unproven rookie Brian Thomas JR a third option on the offense lmao wtf is this
You are referring to a tier down option we gave. We advised in that option to get Thomas + to insulate value.
Honestly going into the 2025 season I don’t think Devonta Smith to BTJ will be considered a tier-down anymore
Why are we panicking on devonta smith
in the take in this video, Badake explains why :)
Do we believe in AR15?
I could prob get him for Love + 3rd
I have Love & ARich back to back. I definitely believe he can put up huge fantasy points, I just don’t know what his future holds as a QB in the league. Meanwhile Love has done enough for me to believe he’s a franchise guy.
This mf did not just tell us to sell smith and buy Dell lmao
this mf did
You faded Pittman because of A Rich last year, Arich fed him and then quickly was out for the season. Pittman still DOMINATES and now you fade him again … because of ARich …again???
Y’all like the pain huh? Don’t talk to me about rookie Adonai Mitchell during 27yo Pittman’s analysis bruh is going to get FORCE FED like it or not.😂
Tell me you didn't watch the video with an open mind without telling me. Anyone being reasonable will say that Pittman's breakout season last year had nothing to do with ARich considering ARich only played 2 healthy games. And as I explain in the video, in those 2 healthy games it was completely hit or miss 😂
This comment is disingenuous man, you can disagree with take but come on.
It's called playing the market! Sell high when the value is still high before if and when it falls. Dont see Pittman getting any higher than he is currently and Many factors can knock Pittman down. Such as AR still recovering from shoulder + JT being healthy + Adonai Mitchell addition + Josh Downs amazing reception perception + Jelani Woods healthy
Badake has to have the worst takes in the industry 😂. Trade DeVonta for the 1.10 or a random 25 1st? Wild
Thats the current price brother. Dont get mad at me. Get mad at the community
@@DynastyLandFootball I'm not mad at you at all man, but that's definitely not his value. Even Zack is looking shook when you said that lol. I don't hate selling Smith but why would you trade him for a pick that your are hoping becomes what he already is?
A 2025 1st is a more liquid asset than Smith. People will get more excited for that pick with rookie fever than they will Smith. I'd rather have the pick.
Pepsi is trash since 2010. It used to be betrer in my childhood back in 90's. It is waaay tooooo sweeet now. Tastes like syrup
Team Coke stand up!
You guys might be the only ones panicking about DeVonta
We love Devonta, we wanna play the market 🤝
Tbh if all fantasy content guys panicked about the exact same guys, what's the point of watching more then one? Just sayin. Different perspectives is good. 👍
@@joshuamosier7384 I agree. I didn’t ask them to change their take or say they were “wrong”. If anything, I said what you said in less words hahaha